Galactic Empires (Wesnoth in Space)

[Computer_Player]

NIce! I am always drawn back whenever a new update for this comes around. Thanks once again Bob and my fellow players.

Quickly tried a 1 v 1 vs the AI (a boon now that wesnoth is entering more lean times in terms of multiplayer base)

The concept of the hero is quite interesting and an inspired bolt out of the blue. Its a very quick way to incentivize invasions and make them very effective in the early game - an invasion with a hero vs one without is almost guaranteed to be a success. They could single handle mow through enemy lvl 0 units ( which are likely to be few as they a trade off vs economic growth) and I imagine games could be won just through hero maneuver. I do feel they are a bit too strong (especially with the AMLA options- which admitedly are very fun) and could use with a reduction in HP of 5-10 so lvl 0 units can still be effective and make it so they would need to rest somehow between planet conquests.

I love that the survival map has been updated as well - with new intro text and ability in the middle.

I also love the change to stasis - this makes it so just stasis locking entire sections of the map indefinitely is not possible now. The rng factor to balance it is clever. I want some more games to try this out (preferably with a human)

My only game so far was in 2p Ion Nova and I attach here some screenshots on the VP win condition not working properly at 18 and at 19. Also the game doesn't end even when I killed the enemy HQ (and flagship and hero). I didn't go so far as to blow up the enemy planet though. I do think for this map at least the VP is set too low. control of 2 of the enemy outer planets means 18 points = game ending very early (especially given Hero invasions). 21 points for VP seem reasonable. I would also add killing enemy Hero as a VP target given how powerful it is and to add a VP point with regards to planet side combat.

All in all very good work and look forward to more games.

Edit: I like the idea of scientists contributing to the planetary defences. Makes them more than just RP farmers.

I would however sound caution on balancing exclusively vs the AI which as we know is quite deficient as a player of regular wesnoth, not to mention GE. Should still be useful ofcourse, but more tests and observation is needed. Full scientist + lab is powerful ofcourse, but ideally you are being pressured to use resources to buy fighting ships intead or to get soldiers to recapture units ... depending on the situation.

BTW I saw that you are open for LORE texts on the units. Do you have any vision or lore that you have so writers can have a guideline on what you will accept?

Edit2: I forgot to add, planet labels are a very happy and welcome QOL feature. Glad that its here!

[Computer_Player]

PSA: Some guy posted in reddit needing help on making custom maps for GE

https://www.reddit.com/r/wesnoth/commen ... res_addon/

I can't help them, but maybe somebody reading can

[Bob_The_Mighty]

Thanks for the feedback, very useful as always. I've identified the victory point bug and I'm tempted to change the following:
- Give a default gold or income bonus to any side controlled by the AI (in case players expect an even challenge)
- Reduce HP of heroes or nerf them in some other way
- Make the Ildari stasis generator work in defence as well
- Possibly award victory points for killing flagships/heroes (+1VP)
- Make planetary defences even cheaper?

PSA: Some guy posted in reddit needing help on making custom maps for GE

https://www.reddit.com/r/wesnoth/commen ... res_addon/

I can't help them, but maybe somebody reading can

Tell them to check in here. CMG or Mabuse once made a 6p map which is still in the map folder. It has no scenario file though (the time-consuming part of making new maps is inputting the beaming co-ordinates for the different planets).

[dwarftough]

(the time-consuming part of making new maps is inputting the beaming co-ordinates for the different planets).

Isn't it possible to calculate them automatically if coordinates of the centre of a planet are given? All planets I've seen in the era so far are just hexagonal

[Atreides]

Played my first 2 MP matches of GE and here's some important advice for first timers:

Like all 4X type games production is KING. Thing is production is actually in the HQ. Some of you might, like me, have assumed that upgrades to the HQ are not important to defending it at start. Alas, no, the production techs are there and not in the planets tech branch. (which is where I was looking for them) All 4 branches are important but start with the HQ ones.

[Computer_Player]

That was me. I was the ally in the 2 v 2 vs Bob and mmmax XD

Epic battle on Gallotron (only the 2nd time I've ever played it with a full multiplayer set) and I needed to learn the ins and outs of the map.

Narration of the replay:

Spoiler:

The pirates (with the hacking buff!) both went after us when we didn't plug the wormhole with a unit (and thus gave them vision of us) and we didn't appreciate the way the wormhole affected the match. Thus we were not able to gain a foothold on the big planets in the middle with their juicy artifacts. Fortunately, the aliens were very hardy, and even with heroes spearheading the invasion, they were not simple to defeat. Thus it gave us the time to deal with the pirates, prepare and mount a surprise counter offensive by Turn 9 dubbed Operation White Hole.

Incidentally, due to the way Hero xp works, I was able to use the dragon relay concept to speedily bus my hero along my ally's planets giving him xp.

The tide thus began to turn and we were able to catch up in terms of economy and control the airspace around Gallatron 2. However, their ground units proved too strong and they were able to conquer the planet hovering them at 23/24 VP - 1 VP from the win! We cooly decided then to coral them there and instead invade the more central planets. Fearing a spaceport + recruit combo from mmmax, we filled Gallatron 2s orbit with units. Unbeknownst to us, mmmax has been feeding gold to Bob to fast track him and prepare a spaceport on Gallatron 1 with continuous ship recruitment through the clever use of the oft neglected Empire Options - Transfer Gold to Ally. Thus we were hoodwinked into keeping units around Gallatron 2 to stop a potential spaceport when in fact the gold was being used against us already!

The invasion of the inner planets proceeded apace nevertheless (unfortunately lvl 0 drones were not able to blockade planets) and pressure began to mount on mmmax to spend military on his own defence, forced to recruit from the homeworld. I was also able to turn the tables on the space battle at the last minute, when an overextension by Bob gave me the opportunity to destroy his Flag Ship, also putting the xp from the pirates to good use and leveling my own Flag Ship to level 3 - healing it from poison and giving it full health!

At the same time I used my hoarded wealth to build a forward space port and recruit 2 units to fight back the massing enemy steelhive and rescue my FG from counterattack.

It was at this precarious moment that we decided to end the game, leaving us to draw our own conclusions on the match (for me it was a draw ) . GG everyone.

Observation:
I think adding Heroes and FG to the VP would be nice and provide some more impact to them and help steer the game to a conclusion. However, I would like in general to make it so a VP equivalent of controlling 2 enemy forward planets + 1 Heroe/FG Kill would be the default For the VP Win condition to give games a natural conclusion based on trend. In this case, I feel the default VP is too early (just getting Gal2 = controlling 1 enemy planet was enough to give Bob's side shy of 1 VP from winning the match)

The 5 HP reduction for the heroes feels good though it needs more testing.

Virus maker FG for Steelhive felt very weak. I had thought that unit had repair+4, but apparently it just removes virus which is only usuable in a mirror. Perhaps a repair+4 on this unit (even at level 1) would make it more worth the cost and as a FG.

For Gallotron specifically - I would suggest reducing Pirate mp by 1 or place them towards 1 side each so as to reduce the likelhood of wormhole vision causing them to both attack a side. Instead they would attack those who naturally comes near. Alternatively, remove LOS from wormholes (but that would be less fun IMO )

Thanks for the game!

[Atreides]

Hmmm I think there may be a problem with the AI. It runs fine for a few turns and in the 2 games vs the AI I've started it simply stops after a while. I tried a game of Gallatron (same as the MP match I played but vs AI) and by turn 12 only the pirates still move. The other 3 AI (my ally and 2 enemy) just sit there and do nothing. Before that though they were doing awesome mind you. Enemy AI was invading my ally's planets!

In any case I'll include the save so you can see for yourselves. Only 1 mod used (cancel goto if attacked) because I was worried something was interfering and only that 1 is useful anyways. I'll try it w/o that now but I hope that's not it. Super simple mod, 1 event, can't really be it.

Voila:

[Computer_Player]

1v1 me vs Calandrl on Ion Nova

I didn't see any option to change victory conditions, nor vp set amount, nor whether heroes are on or off. I haven't tested on other maps, but on this one I definitely didn't since I was trying to look out for it.

At anyrate, this is a nightmare match up of Terran vs Dwartha with Interceptor Flagship vs the Dwartha Steadfast flagship. I was able to invade the southern ice planet with my hero due to 1st turn advantage (I think p2 would have to play defensively and intercept that from the start to stop it). However, when retreating, I left the hero on the planet to die.

Meanwhile my ships are getting aggroed in a space battle by the superior Dwartha ships ... it was only luck and some maneuvering that allowed me to trade the 1 FG and 2 Terran scouts vs 1 FG and 1 Dwartha scout / leaving me with 1 scout near to level but at 4 hp.

A moot point since I am unable to defend invasions from the ascendant ground forces in the south.. not sure if I could have mounted a defence even should I went war footing planetside.

The VP was set at 21 however, and even with 2 planets they are not able to win at 19. So I gave over another small planet to test out the VP conditions, which put him on 21 and gave him the win. I think 21 is ok especially once Heroes / FG are given 1 VP (this would have given them a win as soon as they conquered their 2nd planet).

Game ended on turn 8ish - Fastest GE game a experienced haha.

[Bob_The_Mighty]

Epic battle on Gallotron (only the 2nd time I've ever played it with a full multiplayer set) and I needed to learn the ins and outs of the map.

Thanks for posting the replay, it was a fun game (I never realised you could see players' secret chatlog in a replay - very interesting!). However, I feel that it should have ended when we gained control of both Gallatron giants (of course, you would have played differently had the VP limit been set to 24). In general I would like to keep the default VP targets on the lower side to encourage quicker games.

- I’m happy to give the Steelhive Corruptor a bonus ability of +4 Repair
- Awarding 1VP for killing Hero/Flagship is a good idea
- I’ll also try moving the Gallatron pirates

Hmmm I think there may be a problem with the AI. It runs fine for a few turns and in the 2 games vs the AI I've started it simply stops after a while...
Only 1 mod used (cancel goto if attacked).

I loaded your games and they both seemed fine to me, the AI continued as normal. Would you mind uninstalling that mod and reloading the save to see what happens? It could be that the GEAI relies on goto code.

Like all 4X type games production is KING. Thing is production is actually in the HQ… All 4 branches are important but start with the HQ ones.

Do you think this is a balance problem? Should there be more economic upgrades in the planet tech, for instance? (You get Academy and Trade Hub, but there is nothing related to income in tier #1). On a related note, I’m tempted to make all higher level ships a bit cheaper to make ship tech a more viable rush strategy. What do you think?

I didn't see any option to change victory conditions, nor vp set amount, nor whether heroes are on or off. I haven't tested on other maps, but on this one I definitely didn't since I was trying to look out for it.

Here's a screenshot showing where the custom options are located.

The options can be changed before you set up the game...

[Bob_The_Mighty]

BTW I saw that you are open for LORE texts on the units. Do you have any vision or lore that you have so writers can have a guideline on what you will accept?

Yes, here is an outline of the concepts I’ve used to develop the factions. Some of the Vendeeni troops already have unit descriptions which I’ll post here for reference, but I’d be happy to accept submissions for more LORE.

Vendeeni texts

Spoiler:

Vendeeni Drone
"When a Vendeeni comes of age it is compelled by custom to challenge a close friend in combat. The losers are robbed of their status and forced into a life of drudgery as a Drone. As well as providing a workforce, this custom ensures that personal friendships are severed early - in case they conflict with loyalty to the hive."

Vendeeni Fighter
"When a Vendeeni comes of age it is compelled by custom to challenge a close friend in combat. The winners are granted the ultimate honour of becoming a Fighter. Being able to batter a friend to the point of death is considered the first and most important step in Vendeeni military training."

Vendeeni Drudger
"When a Drone has proved itself capable of undertaking endless menial work, it is granted a new life as a Drudger. Although their workload actually increases, Drudgers are rarely discontent, for the simple reason that they are now able to look down with a newfound sense of superiority upon the other Drones."

Vendeeni Diviner
"Although they lack the stature and strength of their male counterparts, Vendeeni females are often much smarter - and have even evolved basic psionic powers as a means to manipulate and pacify their husbands.”

Vendeeni Sibyl
"Untroubled by the testosterone-fuelled belligerence of their menfolk, the Vendeeni Sisterhood has been able, over centuries, to develop an advanced understanding of science. Such knowledge is all but unknown to the males, who, having mistaken rational thought for prophetic mystical wisdom, view Vendeeni women with awe and reverence. The women, of course, intend to keep it that way. A secret pact, first made by the Sisterhood in ancient times, ensures that the Vendeeni menfolk are forever kept in the dark on even the most elementary scientific concepts."

Vendeeni Sliverer
"The Vendeeni custom of insisting on the purity of their bloodline has ironically corrupted the lineage entirely, due to successive generations of inbreeding. This has resulted in a propensity for random genetic mutations. The power of Vendeeni tradition is so great, however, that a state of denial is maintained - even when their warriors start turning into flying snakes."

Terran
Attributes: Inquisitive, resourceful, collaborative
Origin: Descendants of planet Earth
Government: Bureaucratic Council
Focus: Exploration, training, diplomacy
- Prepared: units often have two attacks with different ranges
- Cautious: lots of healing/repair (plus Probes)
- Adaptable: lower XP requirements (plus Institute)

Vendeeni
Attributes: Insectoid, populous, ritualistic
Origin: Evolved from crossbreeding insect colonies?
Government: Matriarchal Hive / Caste System
Focus: Reproducing, combat prowess, serving the hive queen
- Brute Strength: high HP, strong attacks, focus on melee
- Aggressive: prefer invasions (Genepod & Carrier)
- Instinctive: vulnerable to psionic damage

Dwartha
Attributes: Proud, industrious, bearded
Origin: A planet with unusually strong gravity
Government: Monarchy
Focus: Mining, recycling, salvaging
- Functional: poor movement and bulky ships
- Tough: good HP and resistances
- Geology: lots of antimatter attacks (plus Terraformer & Driller)

Iildari
Attributes: Evasive, isolationist, experimental
Origin: Robot army built by dying breed of inventors
Government: Confederation
Focus: Research, technology, travel
- Advanced: lots of fancy gadgets (Jammer, Flightlab, Conceal, Stasis)
- Fragile: low HP, vulnerable to electric damage
- Fast: ships have great movement (plus Teleporter)

Steelhive
Attributes: Self-replicating, relentless, unthinking
Origin: Ancient superweapon gone rogue?
Government: AI
Focus: Expansion, consumption, assimilation
- Expendable: cheap ships, low HP (plus no upkeep for Drones)
- Surveillance: good vision (Analyser, Sensors, Scanner, Veil)
- Electronic: vulnerable to electric damage (plus Recharge & Virus)

[Atreides]

Epic battle on Gallotron (only the 2nd time I've ever played it with a full multiplayer set) and I needed to learn the ins and outs of the map.

Thanks for posting the replay, it was a fun game (I never realised you could see players' secret chatlog in a replay - very interesting!). However, I feel that it should have ended when we gained control of both Gallatron giants (of course, you would have

Oh no, all our vile calumnies CP and I were spreading about you two are now exposed! ; )

I also felt that 24 VP would have been fair. When you guys took full control of both Gal's I felt we had lost. OTOH our surprise attack in the south would not have been possible. No idea if that would have worked since we had to call it.

Hmmm I think there may be a problem with the AI. It runs fine for a few turns and in the 2 games vs the AI I've started it simply stops after a while...
Only 1 mod used (cancel goto if attacked).

I loaded your games and they both seemed fine to me, the AI continued as normal. Would you mind uninstalling that mod and reloading the save to see what happens? It could be that the GEAI relies on goto code.

I have started a couple without any mods and so far so good. Hard to believe that it was one of the mods. I also had unit stats (brand new mod) on as well. Guess I should also try each singly. But tentatively it seems that it might be one or both mods. BTW uninstalling wouldn't change it since the mod is saved in the file. You can edit them out or in actually.

Like all 4X type games production is KING. Thing is production is actually in the HQ… All 4 branches are important but start with the HQ ones.

Do you think this is a balance problem? Should there be more economic upgrades in the planet tech, for instance? (You get Academy and Trade Hub, but there is nothing related to income in tier #1). On a related note, I’m tempted to make all higher level ships a bit cheaper to make ship tech a more viable rush strategy. What do you think?

No no nothing at all with the balance. I was just alerting others who might think like me that HQ upgrades weren't that important based on their name. For me "HQ" makes me think of pure military aspects since I'm an old wargamer. Planet was where I expected production aspects to be located!

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Instead of a new post I'll append a new topic that has occurred to me while practicing vs AI.
Transporter Beam killing of units at the vertice hexes of a planet.
It feels... cheesy. I know that something has to happen to prevent people from just blocking a planet but as it is now it is a horrid compromise between using valuable terrain or avoiding it to save a worker.
Hmm that gives me an idea. Probably dumb but how about planets have waste hexes in the 6 corners? I guess that would need redrawing every map?
The other idea I had earlier was to make it a 50/50 gamble when beaming down. That'd be harsh on the attackers though to risk losing a soldier vs a "mere" worker.
Having them shift to a free space also occurred but I'm sure that'll lead to blocked planets full to the brim... although I noticed there is a pop limit. I guess it can be exceeded by beaming in more units?
Hmmm another crazy idea... HP cancelling? Beamer and victim are compared on HP and greater survives minus the losers HP's. So a 19 HP soldier beams onto a 12 HP worker means the soldier lands with 7 HP left. The plus to this is that at least there is a "fair" fight instead of a magic instakill (which is what feels so cheesy).

Anyways that's a start to a discussion I hope.

P.S.
I just tried the survival. : (
Was exterminated on easy. Utterly obliterated.
I wonder, if you play solo does it not reduce the enemy by 2/3? I set P2/3 to nobody not computer. If it is intended to be computer that would have been good to know beforehand. I'll give it another shot like that.

P.P.S.
Found a bug in easy survival
it unlocks ships for sides 4,2,3 not 1,2,3

P.P.P.S.
AI stops working even without any mods active.
I think I found what it might be though. It seems if you save and then load the game again later the AI dies.

CONFIRMED! Bug found. Might be a Wesnoth bug. The "Keep saved ai" does NOT work with the GE AI. If you load the file from the MP screen you can change all computer players from keep saved ai to GE AI and it works properly. If you load from the main screen using CONTROL-O it will bypass the screen where you can see the players and change the AI's so you have to do it the hard way (from the MP screen). That's the workaround.

P.P.P.P.S.
Little glitch in anim when dust giant homeworld in survival defends.
20240212 13:12:06 error display: could not open image '200'
Oh and yeah survival needs 3 players to work. With 2 AI & 1 human (sort of) it is quite tough so truly for easy it needs 3 humans. But I won w/o cheating. Oh yeah terran ships seem to suck. Steelhive also. Those brown boxy ships are too good.

[Bob_The_Mighty]

Just uploaded another update. Galactic Empires 5.7 includes lots of little bug fixes, balancing tweaks and some new animations. Here's the list of what's changed since the big 5.0 update...

Spoiler:

Changes 5.7
- Balanced most of the VP requirements (mostly lowered them)
- Fixed a bug that meant that robots were healed by medic rather than repair, as spotted by mmmax
- Raised HQ hitpoints from 30 to 33 (to reinstate the role of HQ demolition specialists)
- Fixed a planetary defence animation bug
- Killing an enemy flagship or hero now earns 1VP
- Fixed a ship tech bug in survival map, as spotted by Atreides
- HQs now keep stored food when captured (to speed up recolonisation)
- Changed the starting position of the pirate ships on Gallatron map to stop them both going for the same target
- Steelhive Corrupter now has Repair+4 as well as Patch
- Iildari Explorer stasis is no longer defend only
- Added a name generator for Dwarthan ships
- Nerfed Dwarthan shocktrooper from 7x2 to 6x2
- Beefed Iildari Elite Explorer lasers from 5x4 to 6x4
- Reduced cost of all lvl2/lvl3 ships by 3g/7g to make unlocking new ship tech more worthwhile
- Raised/lowered some Vendeeni/Steelhive ship costs
- Scientists on allied planets now benefit from the HQ having a lab (to make it consistent with workers on allied planets)
- Redid the ion cloud terrain images and made some subtle animations
- Fixed a missing animation for the Steelhive Assessor
- Added defend/shield animations for Dwartha ships
- Created a few attack animations for Steelhive and Dwartha ships (timing needs some work)
- Changed the description of the Survival map to indicate that it is meant to be for 3 players
- Added every faction unit to the era list so they are sorted into races on the online database (but it means they are all listed when choosing a leader)
- Reduced the cost of most planet upgrades by 1-3g

Changes 5.6
- Removed the option to rewatch AI moves as it was no longer needed
- Polished tutorial and ability descriptions, as suggested by Atreides
- Removed deprecated lua helper code for 1.17
- Fixed a bug which prevented Domination victory on some 2v2 maps
- Changed VP requirement on Nova map to 21
- All heroes have -5HP
- When a HQ is captured it loses slowed status

Changes 5.5

- Fixed an empty side planet set-up bug on Beta Quadrant map
- Fixed Suppression ability
- Fixed Teleporter upgrade
- Shortened planet upgrade decriptions to fit menu
- Increased the VP target on Isar's Quadrant from 25 to 28
- Couldn't fix a bug where Inventors in transit generate RP even when injured, so adjusted the ability description to allow it

Changes 5.4

- Earthy hills rockbound now produce gold
- Fixed Frazzle AMLA ability
- Made AMLAs heal and increase max XP
- Reverted a +50g AI bonus in survival map
- Added beaming animations for Little Green Man units
- Made Nimin loyal and hid his dialogue if claimed by the AI
- Fixed a side bug with hacking
- Hid experimental Black Hole map
- Improved add-on description and icon

CONFIRMED! Bug found. Might be a Wesnoth bug. The "Keep saved ai" does NOT work with the GE AI. If you load the file from the MP screen you can change all computer players from keep saved ai to GE AI and it works properly. If you load from the main screen using CONTROL-O it will bypass the screen where you can see the players and change the AI's so you have to do it the hard way (from the MP screen). That's the workaround.

Thanks for looking into this. I'm guessing the era (and the GEAI) isn't active prior to loading the save game through the main screen. Maybe mattsc might be able to help? In any case, it always makes sense to load multiplayer games through the MP set-up screen.

[Computer_Player]

Neat! That's a lot more updates than I expected - just as I finished a game with Calandryl on Alpha 1v1 Dwartha vs Iildari. I suppose this means that its my last on the 5.6 version.

Always intense fighting Dwartha as an Iildari - you want to get the 1st ship upgrade ASAP to stand a chance against their starting ship. Fortunately, their starting leader is on the slow side which allowed for some maneuvering.

A big turn was Turn 14-16 in which most of the traps I prepared both space-side and planet-side were sprung which started the decisive slide towards the end - I was also able to sneak through a cloaked transport containing my main invasion force which catapulted my VP to 26, enough to score the win once I ended turn and my enemy started theirs. Just on time too as I was about to lose a planet to their invasion.

I used Jammer as a tech here, though I am unsure how helpful it was. Might have to load a replay to see how it works.

Thanks for the game and updates!

[Atreides]

Thanks for looking into this. I'm guessing the era (and the GEAI) isn't active prior to loading the save game through the main screen. Maybe mattsc might be able to help? In any case, it always makes sense to load multiplayer games through the MP set-up screen.

I've inquired into whether it makes any difference to load a MP game from the main screen load button, using the CONTROL-O or through the MP screen load button and it appears that it does not matter. There is a small difference from the players POV though (convenience aside) to loading via CONTROL-O/main screen LOAD in that when you are playing a new scenario it does not spoil the fog of war by displaying all your enemy sides, their leaders and so on. For those two reasons I always use CONTROL-O to load MP saved games.

But it's not too big a deal to remember to load GE games from the MP screen instead and switch the AI every time. The maps are not that large and could be easily played in one sitting (likely why so few people have noticed this - although I read some old posts and apparently it was known a year ago and mattsc's last post referred to it) if one was so inclined. Myself I usually save when I need to run off and watch a TV show (what's TV I hear you cry? It's something old fogies like me watch) or more importantly when I get a bad combat result and the red mist descends on me and I go mad with rage and need to berserkly attack all the enemy ships suicidally... (so I've trained myself to save before that happens 8 -) )

Addendum: I just found out that in fact you don't need to switch the AI from Keep to GE everytime you load. All you need is to load it from MP screen. Keep AI is NOT bugged. It is as Bob states the fact that if you don't go into the MP scope first the GEAI doesn't get loaded. Makes me wonder if there are any other addons that might be affected similarly by being loaded from the main screen. Funny, whenever I ask if it is OK to load MP from main screen I hear, sure sure, it's fine. : ) Most of the time I suppose it is. Sigh.

Balance notes:
a) I'm still exploring the new game (which GE kind of is) but I wonder if it might be good to have HQ's lose some of their upgrades when they change hands? That is standard in all 4X games. Civ cities lose half pop. and many buildings. Just wondering, perhaps it works best as is.
b) Should planets have ZOC's? Seems realistic to slow a ship in the gravity field. Also it would make the cheesy tactic of using a transport ship to beam down troops up and down on various sides of an enemy planet less viable.

P.S. Found another teeny bug. founder-moving.png does not exist so the move anim likely fails. Was AI side so I didn't notice but it is in the log.

Epsilon Quadrant makes for a cracker of a game, replay below. BTW did have a bunch of lua errors when I tried to continue a 5.6 game with 5.7 so I started this one. I'd set the last one to elimination which is pretty dull, Domination is the way to go!
BTW the newsflash when you sink a hero is kewl. I guess Terran ships aren't so bad after all. And their groundpounders are pretty nifty keen. AI steelhivers too gave the AI Dwarfs a good fight so same for them. (Some fun loving artist ought to make bearded versions of the ships...)

[Computer_Player]

Some interesting games with Calandryl Particularly this match set in Beta Quadrant with unconventional planet invasion choices for both players near the start - with a surprise finish!

Game 2 is a similar game with Mmmax, this time Dwartha vs Steelhive with me on player 2. This one features another interaction.