A Tale Of Two Brothers - Portraits

Post by **West** » November 18th, 2006, 10:57 pm

No, it has not taken me this long to do this. I've been trying to write some music but as I'm not really getting anywhere with that ATM I sat down to make some artwork instead. This is a quick initial sketch of Arne's portrait.

Not much to comment on right now, I know, I just wanted to be clear on a few things:

1. Should he look more comic book-like?

2. Does he need to have his helm on like in the current portrait? I think he looks a bit more heroic with it off.

3. Should I add more of his torso and maybe his hands holding a sword (i.e. with just the pommel showing)?

traverser · Post by **traverser** » November 18th, 2006, 11:35 pm

It all depends on the coloring I think, the outlook is great.
The actual portrait is all up to you, play with it.
I haven't played tale of two brothers so long, I can't even tell you if it fits the unit.
Your try looks realy good so far, if you are a little lost on how to color and other things there are great lesson to be learned on the art forums.
Good luck, I atleast appreciate your art, continue you are much more prommissing than me

Post by **Jetrel** » November 18th, 2006, 11:45 pm

West wrote:Not much to comment on right now, I know, I just wanted to be clear on a few things:

So far, it's looking great!

I'm glad I gave this job to you, it looks like the finished version will be perfect.

West wrote:1. Should he look more comic book-like?

No. He (stylistically) looks perfect the way he is, don't change that.

West wrote:2. Does he need to have his helm on like in the current portrait? I think he looks a bit more heroic with it off.

It's your call; for what it's worth, I like him without it, and the armor is a sufficient cue to indicate that he is a knight.

West wrote:3. Should I add more of his torso and maybe his hands holding a sword (i.e. with just the pommel showing)?

It could have a bit more of his torso showing. If you want to go as far as you described, that's fine, too.

Post by **West** » November 18th, 2006, 11:58 pm

traverser wrote:if you are a little lost on how to color and other things there are great lesson to be learned on the art forums.

Thanks, but I think I'll manage

traverser wrote:Good luck, I atleast appreciate your art, continue you are much more prommissing than me

Thank you so much.

Jetryl wrote: So far, it's looking great! I'm glad I gave this job to you, it looks like the finished version will be perfect.

Hehe... thanks. I just hope I won't disappoint you.

One thing though, about the coloring: is the cel-shaded style of the other portraits what I should be aiming for? Or should I make it more... uh... painting-like? Personally I prefer the latter but it's your call.

traverser · Post by **traverser** » November 19th, 2006, 12:16 am

If the final project looks as good as this one I would download 1.2 even only to see the portrait. But the art of Neo, Jetryl, fmunoz and others is too good to bypass. Continue and you will soon make my list of awesome artists.
All artwork greatly appreciated

Your portraits are definitelly as good and comic-like as Wesnoth portraits should be.
I will draw myself extra thumbs to give you four thumbs up

Post by **Jetrel** » November 19th, 2006, 3:22 am

West wrote:One thing though, about the coloring: is the cel-shaded style of the other portraits what I should be aiming for? Or should I make it more... uh... painting-like? Personally I prefer the latter but it's your call.

Painting-like. I prefer it, and most importantly, you prefer it and you do very well in it.

Post by **West** » November 19th, 2006, 6:29 pm

A little update of Arne's portrait.

I dunno, the arms look weird to me somehow. I'm not good with anatomy and the plate armor makes it even harder. But then again this is a WIP so I'll keep tweaking it.

Post by **Zhukov** » November 19th, 2006, 7:40 pm

Ohh wow. That's damn nice.

I can't see anything really wrong with the arms. Perhaps his upper-right arm could be a tiny bit thicker to take account of the armour.

Post by **Jetrel** » November 20th, 2006, 2:31 am

The arms are generally fine, I think the one thing is that his upper-right (his right) arm attaches too close to the body.

The armor, there, is in the right place, but the arm is pointing towards a shoulder that would be too far in.

Post by **West** » November 20th, 2006, 11:32 am

Yes, you're probably right. Maybe that's what's bothering me. I'll try fixing that. Plus, I'll make the upper arm slightly thicker as Zhukov suggested; it does look a bit skinny right now, considering there's a piece of steel plate strapped to it...

I will of course have to clean up some stuff aside from the above, but I think this guy might be ready for some color after that.

Post by **West** » November 20th, 2006, 12:57 pm

Awright, I've touched up Arne's arm a bit. If no one sees anything terribly wrong with it, I could begin colorizing the image.

Also, here's a first five-minute sketch of Bjarn.

OK, I know, some might object against the silly hairdo and that maybe he doesn't look very mage-like. But I'm sick of mages with robes and hoods and staffs so I went for a more scholarly (and slightly dorky

) look.

On a side note... and this is no big deal but... being a Swede I find the names of those characters a bit odd. Arne is not an uncommon name in Sweden. Bjarn sounds more Norwegian, but BjÃƒÂ¶rn is on the other hand a very common Swedish name also. It just doesn't sound very fantasy-like. To put it in perspective for English-speaking people, it's as if the two main characters would be called Bill and Steve. A silly remark, I know, I just wanted to mention it

Post by **wayfarer** » November 20th, 2006, 1:40 pm

I think it looks good.

About the names as I recall the original author Circon came from this area.

Post by **West** » November 20th, 2006, 3:16 pm

wayfarer wrote:About the names as I recall the original author Circon came from this area.

If you mean Circon is from Scandinavia, it makes even less sense. I assumed the names were picked by someone who thought they just sounded "exotic" and had no idea that they were common names in this part of the world.

Post by **torangan** » November 20th, 2006, 9:27 pm

Don't worry. If Ivanovic gave them a user_description tag. The swedish translation team may rename them if they want.

Post by **West** » November 20th, 2006, 10:13 pm

I wonder how many Swedes will use the Swedish translation though. We're quite used to games not being localized

Anyway, back on topic...

I've spent a few hours trying to colorize Arne. I'm afraid it's not turning out anything like I had hoped though.

Obviously this is far from finished and the armor is quite sloppy. I think I'm working at too high a resolution or something (the psd is like 1200 by 1200) since when the image is scaled down, you can't see the brush strokes anymore and everything just ends up a blur.

When you scale it down even further, closer to the correct portrait size...

Um, no. Not so hot. He looks more like the village idiot than a brave knight.

So... I'll probably redo the coloring from scratch and work with a smaller image. Any and all opinions are welcome.

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