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20081021 01:02:12<       AI0867> how many syllables does 'ires' contain?
20081021 01:02:38<       AI0867> I'd say 1
20081021 01:05:20<          DDR> yeah, one.
20081021 01:05:32<          DDR> wait.
20081021 01:05:44<          DDR> 1.5?
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20081021 01:27:10<        Dejan> hi everybody - a short questions, is there some indicator that i have already played, and more importantly, FINISHED, a certain campain?
20081021 01:27:28<        Dejan> if not, it would be really great to add it to the game
20081021 01:27:33<        Dejan> it would be really helpful :)
20081021 01:27:50<        Dejan> i just love playing those excellent campaigns 
20081021 01:28:07<        Dejan> but sometimes i do not remember if i played a certain campaign or not :)
20081021 01:28:09<        grrrX> Dejan, no there is not. unless you kep the replays
20081021 01:28:15<        grrrX> *keep
20081021 01:28:30<        Dejan> grrrX, yeah, i thought about it, but that would mean a huuuuuge list
20081021 01:28:31<        grrrX> but even then, you would have to manually check your saves folder
20081021 01:28:37<        Dejan> (thousands of items in the list)
20081021 01:28:55<        grrrX> well, ever played D&D?
20081021 01:29:03<        grrrX> make a note on a sheet =)
20081021 01:29:22<        grrrX> adds to the RPG feeling 
20081021 01:29:25<        Dejan> grrrX, :)) well, i am a person in 21st century... i prefer software to do it for me ;)
20081021 01:29:39<        grrrX> yes, it was worth a try, no?
20081021 01:29:39<        Dejan> grrrX, i am thinking to send this as a RFE to developers...
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20081021 01:30:02<        Dejan> it should not be a difficult thing to do i guess
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20081021 01:31:25<        grrrX> oh, better learn to not use that sentence =)
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20081021 01:31:56<        grrrX> because, if you think it is easy, the locial retort would be, "why not DIY?"
20081021 01:32:06<          DDR> I've gotten myself into so much work with that sentence.
20081021 01:32:18<        grrrX> see? =p
20081021 01:32:43<          DDR> "Hm, can I do this? Yes, it should not be a difficult thing to do..." several days pass. "That was hard.".
20081021 01:32:44<        Dejan> grrrX, i would DIM if i do not have some other projects of my own...
20081021 01:33:00<        Dejan> :)
20081021 01:33:18<        grrrX> (you can submit FRs for wesnoth at gna.org)
20081021 01:33:23<        Dejan> DDR, you are a contributor?
20081021 01:33:44<    lilltiger> grrrX: actually, I play D&D over irc so no paper and pen for that :p
20081021 01:33:48<          DDR> I make WML no one wants.
20081021 01:33:49<        Dejan> DDR, well, if so i think the hardest part is to learn about the project
20081021 01:34:10<          DDR> Need a movie player entirely in WML? I made that.
20081021 01:34:21<        Dejan> DDR, no thanks
20081021 01:34:25<          DDR> No one does. ;)
20081021 01:34:26<    lilltiger> WML is?
20081021 01:34:27<        grrrX> the hardest part is to overcome the natural reflex to puke once you start working with WML, if you want to create campaigns =)
20081021 01:34:30<          DDR> Not even me.
20081021 01:34:35<        Dejan> I am not particularly fond of any commonly used MLs
20081021 01:34:47<        Dejan> especially XML and it's dialects
20081021 01:35:09<          DDR> WML is the Wesnoth Markup Language, for use in creating content. It is a bitch that holds no relation to any other language, it seems.
20081021 01:35:17<        Dejan> ah
20081021 01:35:19<        Dejan> :)
20081021 01:35:27<    lilltiger> :D
20081021 01:35:28<        grrrX> yes, WML is really ugly to type if you dont feed your editor of choice with some amphetamines
20081021 01:35:51<        Dejan> i thought you are talking about wireless ML
20081021 01:35:52<        grrrX> and also, it is not a real scripting engine, from what I saw
20081021 01:36:29<          DDR> heh, yeah... the acronyms bear a remarkable resemblance.
20081021 01:38:44<          DDR> For instance: An image definition needs to point to a folder named images, and then you use a tag to put in images in that folder. It confused the heck out of me for half a day.
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20081021 01:43:07<        grrrX> I sometimes wonder whether WML really helps to create content, or whether it makes it actually harder, being a very specific language you have to learn bottom-up, with no use outside of wesnoth
20081021 01:44:20<         Mica> So, instead of learning WML you would rather learn C++?
20081021 01:44:35<         Mica> If WML wasn't used, you'd have to learn C++ to create new content for the game.
20081021 01:44:44<        grrrX> c++ for a scripting engine? lol.
20081021 01:44:55<        grrrX> sorry, that's BS
20081021 01:45:13<         Mica> Everything [except the AI I believe] is coded with C++
20081021 01:45:20<         Mica> for Wesnoth, that is.
20081021 01:45:45<        grrrX> you dont get the point
20081021 01:45:54<         Mica> And, WML is something I would like to make my own version of when/if I make my own games.
20081021 01:46:23<         Mica> All languages are specific, if you want it to do what you intended.
20081021 01:47:21<        grrrX> well, I would have chosen an established implementation for a scripting engine, to create content, but that's just my .2€
20081021 01:47:45<         Mica> TBH it's WML or C++ really.
20081021 01:47:57<         Mica> Other languages that have been proposed don't do what we need.
20081021 01:48:45<        grrrX> we could now argue about turing completeness and such, but that would take it too far.
20081021 01:48:55<        grrrX> I guess I just stop here
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20081021 02:09:17<          DDR> c++ is bitchier than WML. but it can do more.
20081021 02:09:27<          DDR> variables are a nightmare. br.
20081021 02:13:07<        Dejan> D owns
20081021 02:15:29<    lilltiger> Better would be to use an multi-language scripting backend, like Kross in KDE. But to create one would be alot of work.
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20081021 12:51:24<  Soul_keeper> i play this game to have fun, there seems to be a lot of people that play it only to belittle others
20081021 12:59:59<    zookeeper> they have fun by belittling others too.
20081021 13:00:42<  Soul_keeper> i don't dissagree
20081021 13:04:58<      Soliton> welcome to the internet.
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20081021 13:07:48<  Soul_keeper> incredible
20081021 13:09:41<    zookeeper> well, where is the problem?
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20081021 13:09:55<  Soul_keeper> zookeeper, do you suck dick ?
20081021 13:10:07<  Soul_keeper> i think you do
20081021 13:10:32<  Soul_keeper> you sound like a dick sucker
20081021 13:10:42<  Soul_keeper> Soliton, you too
20081021 13:11:10<      Soliton> i see. are you coming on to me?
20081021 13:11:25<  Soul_keeper> Soliton, sure get on your knees
20081021 13:11:36<  Soul_keeper> because i'm the boss
20081021 13:12:06<      Soliton> ah well, no thanks.
20081021 13:12:39<  Soul_keeper> Soliton, so when are you going to kill yourself ?
20081021 13:13:27<  Soul_keeper> maybe you are zookeeper can do one of those gay love murder-suicide things ....
20081021 13:13:42<    zookeeper> there are easier ways to get a ban you know. you could just ask _nicely_ for it.
20081021 13:14:14<  Soul_keeper> i rather just return the favor, if you treat people like shit it comes back at you
20081021 13:14:35<  Soul_keeper> wesnoth is not my only reason for living like some of you pathetic fucks
20081021 13:14:43<    zookeeper> what drugs are you on?
20081021 13:15:00<    zookeeper> none of what you're talking about makes a lick of sense to me.
20081021 13:15:15<    zookeeper> if you got a problem with someone "treating you like shit", then bug them about it, not some other people like me.
20081021 13:15:48<    zookeeper> it's not like i come and insult you "to return the favour" if some completely unrelated person insults me.
20081021 13:15:52<  Soul_keeper> yeah rationalize it however you want, you deserve no respect from me
20081021 13:16:00<    zookeeper> you, sir, are a complete idiot.
20081021 13:16:08<  Soul_keeper> and you're a cock sucker
20081021 13:16:40<    zookeeper> learn the language used before you think you can make clever interpretations about what people say.
20081021 13:16:59<  Soul_keeper> zookeeper, i'm sorry i don't speak fag, you should talk to yourself
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20081021 16:15:07<         Smar> hmh, is there a way to shut down that damn multiplayer chat...?
20081021 16:16:20<    zookeeper> i doubt it
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20081021 16:18:11<         Smar> :(
20081021 16:19:10<      Soliton> what exactly do you want to shut down?
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20081021 16:20:48<         Smar> have you played multiplayer games on public server?
20081021 16:21:14<      Soliton> yes.
20081021 16:21:29<         Smar> isn’t it fun to get called noob and such? ^.^
20081021 16:22:50<      Soliton> i don't remember being called that.
20081021 16:26:14<         Smar> try to choose some random game.
20081021 16:26:44<    zookeeper> Smar, maybe you could just state your point instead?
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20081021 16:28:03<      Tomsik_> Smar: ignore is here for a reason ;-)
20081021 16:28:09<    zookeeper> (or just answer the question you were asked)
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20081021 16:30:42<         Smar> zookeeper: ee?
20081021 16:31:18<         Smar> Tomsik_: it’s little bothersome to just put everyone to ignore
20081021 16:31:38<      Tomsik_> If EVERYONE tells you that, it might be true :-p
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20081021 16:32:22<    zookeeper> Smar, what part did you not understand?
20081021 16:32:51<    zookeeper> (or does "ee?" mean something?)
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20081021 16:34:44<         Smar> oh meh 
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20081021 17:36:25<    lilltiger> I bet it's zookeeper that hangs around the public servers and crushes the newcomers and calls em n00bs :p
20081021 17:47:32<       Rhonda> lilltiger: wrong, n00b
20081021 17:48:25<    lilltiger> ;D
20081021 17:49:01<      Tomsik_> No. It's DK and Soli
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20081021 18:43:23<    lilltiger> Hmm in the South Guard(?) campaign the scenario where you can choose between banditsand elves, and choose elves one doset have to defete the bandits eaven thouht the scenario goal says so.
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20081021 20:42:11<     Ivanovic> hi
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20081021 22:16:17<     Unnheulu> Shadow_Master: Where have you been man?    
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20081021 23:23:28<      Dalem50> How do you compile Wesnoth, without the client, but with the server flag? xD
20081021 23:25:24<      Dalem50> nvm.
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