--- Log opened Sun Nov 09 00:00:29 2008 20081109 00:00:34 circular dependency? 20081109 00:01:35 yeah :-/ 20081109 00:02:12 pixman seems to be one of those evil programs that is deceptively very small and simple, but then requires a ton of libraries 20081109 00:02:15 -!- irm [n=shadowm@190.22.116.47] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 00:02:21 or, libraries as the case may be 20081109 00:03:13 -!- irm is now known as ShikadiLord 20081109 00:03:55 maybe I understood wrong, and pixman isn't even required for anything 20081109 00:05:41 according to bug #12579, when a unit is [kill]ed, $second_unit is equal to $unit. 20081109 00:05:53 which leads to some odd dialogue 20081109 00:06:05 I just tested it, and it seems correct 20081109 00:06:40 well, the unit was killed by WML 20081109 00:06:52 eek 20081109 00:07:13 if the unit triggered the WML, it might be the killer of itself ;) 20081109 00:07:33 well, in the case of Liberty, dommel gets buries in the ruins of halstead 20081109 00:07:44 so to start out, he tells himself his reign of terror is over 20081109 00:07:52 then rebukes himself and says it's just a small vicotry 20081109 00:08:13 lol 20081109 00:08:37 I consider this a WML bug 20081109 00:08:42 not a C++ bug 20081109 00:09:06 depends, what *should* the behaviour of die events after a [kill] be? 20081109 00:09:15 s/after/triggered by/ 20081109 00:09:35 checking whether cairo's image surface backend feature could be enabled... no (requires pixman-1 >= 0.12.0) 20081109 00:09:42 so apparently it does need pixman, for that 20081109 00:10:24 -!- ShikadiLord [n=shadowm@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20081109 00:13:32 AI0867: simple, either don't use fire_event, or set a flag that can be checked in the die event 20081109 00:14:48 although I guess it would be convenient to set second_unit to an enemy leader unit if one is available 20081109 00:15:28 in case the WML author forgets to handle dialogue for [kill] deaths 20081109 00:16:33 there's also another issue in the bug that I was able to reproduce: the terrain mask doesn't apply 20081109 00:19:31 so the fortress doesn't actually crumble 20081109 00:19:45 perhaps the terrain mask is just b'rked 20081109 00:22:24 -!- ilor [n=a@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [] 20081109 00:33:27 esr: have you got any ideas for that curse? (or any other good reason to explain Elynia's immortality and the fact that every one of her husbands suffer terrible deaths) 20081109 00:33:32 hmm.. the Valkyria Chronicles looks like it could be a good game 20081109 00:33:49 I just checked out the trial 20081109 00:36:39 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-220-201.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 00:37:53 <[Relic]> Hello :) 20081109 00:38:50 Why, hello there! 20081109 00:38:59 Yes, hello Relic. 20081109 00:39:03 <[Relic]> :) 20081109 00:45:00 -!- miq [n=miq@krlh-5d83a723.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081109 00:51:38 -!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 01:13:17 i am off to bed, n8 20081109 01:16:52 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]"] 20081109 01:29:40 ai0867 * r30657 /trunk/data/campaigns/Liberty/scenarios/08_Glory.cfg: * Correct Dommel's death message in case he doesn't die in combat. 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If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!"] 20081109 01:48:17 -!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.179.67] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081109 01:58:04 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esr, BenUrban, Sapient, chains, suokko, Blueblaze, Sirp, Shadow_Master 20081109 02:01:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Shadow_Master 20081109 02:03:01 -!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:03:01 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:03:01 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:03:01 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:03:01 -!- chains [n=Rylar@adsl-75-31-248-85.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:03:01 -!- suokko [n=suokko@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:03:01 -!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 02:11:53 ai0867 * r30658 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Fix some music problems. 20081109 02:11:59 -!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.6 released, will announce soon | List 1.6 features here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6Features | 57 bugs, 210 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://wesnoth.org/irclogs | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081109 02:15:33 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 03:06:12 -!- cjhopman [n=chris@71-90-21-87.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:06:31 -!- suokko_ [n=suokko@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:08:45 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esr, BenUrban, chains, suokko, Sirp, Blueblaze 20081109 03:09:21 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:09:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Blueblaze, BenUrban, chains, Sirp, esr 20081109 03:28:25 well I've successfully made one library! (I'm pretty sure) 20081109 03:28:56 -!- cjhopman [n=chris@71-90-21-87.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 03:52:05 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esr, BenUrban, chains, Sirp, Blueblaze 20081109 03:56:31 -!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:56:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Blueblaze 20081109 03:56:31 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:56:31 -!- chains [n=Rylar@adsl-75-31-248-85.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:56:31 -!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:58:04 -!- Espreon_ [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 03:59:49 -!- Rh0nda [n=alfie@anguilla.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 04:00:44 -!- Rhonda [n=alfie@debian/developer/alfie] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20081109 04:01:16 okay, crushmaster offended our best portrait artist, Kitty. Ban him. 20081109 04:03:41 He offended kitty? BLASPHEMY! 20081109 04:07:00 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 04:07:15 -!- Espreon_ is now known as Espreon 20081109 04:08:17 Shadow_Master: Link please? 20081109 04:15:41 -!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-43-119.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 04:17:55 noy: Hello noy. 20081109 04:18:06 ho 20081109 04:18:06 hi 20081109 04:18:25 A horrible thing occurred! 20081109 04:18:42 hm? 20081109 04:18:46 Well not that horrible, but it is still bad. 20081109 04:19:07 hm? 20081109 04:19:13 Our grandest portrait artist was offended by a member of the Wesnoth community. 20081109 04:19:25 me? 20081109 04:19:28 or who? 20081109 04:19:32 kitty. 20081109 04:19:39 by whom? 20081109 04:19:52 Crushmaster. 20081109 04:20:00 ... 20081109 04:20:15 I am being serious! 20081109 04:21:41 linky 20081109 04:22:07 That is what I asked Shadow Master for and whatnot. 20081109 04:22:31 Shadow_Master: noy wants to see the alleged offense crushmaster afflicted upon kitty. 20081109 04:22:34 can I have a link? 20081109 04:23:39 We will all have to wait for SM to respond. I will look for the offending post though. 20081109 04:24:51 * crimson_penguin found it 20081109 04:24:52 http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=319696#p319696 20081109 04:25:15 I knew it was that topic! 20081109 04:25:46 Let's hope justice is served. 20081109 04:32:17 well did he say something to kitty directly? 20081109 04:32:47 what'd Crushmaster do? 20081109 04:33:07 He offended kitty by his "A Speech" thread. 20081109 04:33:27 well we can't ban him for that 20081109 04:34:00 Oh well... 20081109 04:34:09 * crimson_penguin started reading the original post 20081109 04:34:23 Let's see if he responds to kitty. 20081109 04:34:59 Just because there's only male and female (which actually isn't even true), doesn't say anything about what they're supposed to do 20081109 04:37:15 honestly? I really think he's a troll 20081109 04:37:19 * crimson_penguin will leave his commenting at that, because he's sure it's all been covered there anyway 20081109 04:37:23 possibly chameleon effect 20081109 04:38:17 I think he is really a traumatized person who lived in a highly religious environment his whole life. 20081109 04:40:33 did he offend her by his "A Speech" thread? All I see is offense in the "female mages" thread. 20081109 04:41:21 She did say she was offended due to the fact crushmaster totally dissed women. 20081109 04:42:48 I'll tell you why makes me think its a troll 20081109 04:43:08 he's extremely careful not to make statements that are attacks 20081109 04:43:29 he's just posting statements that he knows will have the greatest possible effect 20081109 04:44:16 He writes with a high level of scripture knowledge 20081109 04:44:25 yet doesn't know how to write paragraphs? 20081109 04:44:34 it doesn't add up 20081109 04:44:51 how does that not add up? 20081109 04:45:00 I think I may agree with you though 20081109 04:45:12 you don't have one without the other 20081109 04:45:18 by the way, how come Wesnoth seems to use pango AND SDL_ttf? 20081109 04:45:28 I don't see why not 20081109 04:45:43 Because it can? 20081109 04:47:00 there is someone who would do this too 20081109 04:47:13 who has been doing for many years, but not on the forum 20081109 04:47:48 I also wonder, how new is the pango dependency? 20081109 04:48:21 Actually nevermind, I guess the fact that the current Mac binary has cairo must mean it uses pango too, even though what he sent me didn't include that 20081109 04:48:23 Sirp: can you do me a favour of looking up someone on the Wesnoth server IP log? 20081109 04:51:35 crimson_penguin: we're replacing SDL_ttf with pango, but it seems the process isn't finished yet 20081109 04:51:43 oh, ok 20081109 04:51:52 -!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db22205.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 04:51:54 well luckily SDL_ttf is a really easy dep anyway :) 20081109 04:52:09 pango is much harder :-/ 20081109 04:52:47 reason being that SDL_ttf isn't capable of displaying arabic properly (among other languages, probably) 20081109 04:53:58 it seems the current Mac build uses an out-dated pango though (1.0.0.2101.2) 20081109 04:54:14 does pango really require a data directory? :-/ 20081109 04:58:05 ahh, the current one uses "libcairo.2.17.5.dylib", but the newest I could find was 1.8.2! 20081109 05:02:51 -!- Espreon_ [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 05:08:51 -!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db20905.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 05:09:50 -!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20081109 05:11:29 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 05:12:35 -!- Espreon_ is now known as Espreon 20081109 05:12:48 -!- Espreon is now known as Skittle_Lord 20081109 05:13:14 -!- Skittle_Lord is now known as Espreon 20081109 05:14:32 -!- Espreon is now known as Skittle_Lord 20081109 05:19:31 -!- Skittle_Lord is now known as Espreon 20081109 05:20:25 -!- Espreon is now known as Skittle_Lord 20081109 05:27:22 -!- Skittle_Lord is now known as Espreon 20081109 05:35:42 esr * r30659 /trunk/src/ (204 files in 13 dirs): Remove unused headers. 20081109 05:38:09 that should speed up compilation 20081109 05:42:47 wow 20081109 05:46:05 Speeding up compilation was the general idea :-) 20081109 05:47:46 -!- Espreon_ [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 05:48:30 I've got some errors compiling now though 20081109 05:48:43 -!- Espreon_ is now known as Skittle_Lord 20081109 05:49:49 language.cpp:202,204: /Users/ben/projects/wesnoth/MacOSX/../src/language.cpp:202: error: 'errno' was not declared in this scope 20081109 05:50:09 oops, didn't mean to include the redundant file path 20081109 05:50:14 -!- Skittle_Lord_ [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 05:50:58 -!- Skittle_Lord_ is now known as Espreon_ 20081109 05:51:12 filesystem.cpp:286: error: 'LOCALEDIR' was not declared in this scope 20081109 05:51:45 esr: I haven't got my build linking yet, but previously, I did build all the files earlier today 20081109 05:53:39 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081109 05:53:56 a bunch of errors in clipboard.cpp, presumably from removing the include of the Mac header that provided clipboard support 20081109 05:54:55 also, ai.cpp:1317: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct end_level_exception' 20081109 05:55:21 and that's all 20081109 05:55:26 -!- Espreon_ is now known as Espreon 20081109 06:10:39 -!- Skittle_Lord [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 06:15:46 esr: so that teleport AI leader bug should be fixed. 20081109 06:16:21 Sirp: did it cause the error I just got though? :-/ 20081109 06:18:36 crimson_penguin: I don't think so. I didn't modify ai.cpp 20081109 06:18:48 oh, ok 20081109 06:18:54 * crimson_penguin blames esr then :) 20081109 06:21:14 ai.cpp seems to work for me though, after svn up 20081109 06:23:50 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.220] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081109 06:33:51 <[Relic]> blah! era of magic don't work with SVN :( 20081109 06:36:11 Well what do you expect! 20081109 06:36:32 They changed a lot in 1.5. 20081109 06:36:37 *the 1.5 branch. 20081109 06:36:41 *1.5x 20081109 06:36:52 So stuff from the stable branch will not work. 20081109 06:37:18 <[Relic]> this is the internet! I demand instant satisfaction! :) 20081109 06:37:35 Try running wmllint on it... but you will be alone. 20081109 06:38:02 <[Relic]> age of heros ain't as fun on the merk.. map 20081109 06:57:30 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081109 07:06:41 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-220-201.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081109 07:16:34 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 07:41:30 dave * r30660 /trunk/src/ai_village.cpp: fix bug where AI leader makes weird moves 20081109 07:43:30 okay so what AI bugs still need fixing? 20081109 07:52:16 were there still ones where it's not aggressive enough? 20081109 08:12:42 -!- zookeeper [i=zookeepe@83-102-43-241.customers.ktab.fn.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 08:16:44 -!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.6 released, will announce soon | List 1.6 features here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6Features | 0 bugs, 210 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://wesnoth.org/irclogs | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081109 08:19:31 No bugs... hmmmmm... 20081109 08:19:45 zookeeper: Did they all become features? 20081109 08:20:29 Or were they all rectified (hopefully)? 20081109 08:23:00 no 20081109 08:23:13 So which one is it? 20081109 08:29:02 no to both 20081109 08:29:35 So when you set the topic why did it say "0 bugs"? I think the topic needs to be reset. 20081109 08:32:26 i have no idea, i haven't set the topic. 20081109 08:32:39 a bug in wesbot or gna or whatever most likely 20081109 08:32:42 Oh, my mistake. 20081109 08:32:54 We all have our epic failures. 20081109 08:33:12 certainly 20081109 08:38:58 -!- Espreon is now known as Skittle_Lord 20081109 08:45:35 -!- EdB [n=EdB@249.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 08:46:23 -!- Skittle_Lord is now known as Espreon 20081109 08:46:28 EdB: Hello. 20081109 08:55:44 hello Espreon 20081109 08:56:01 Crap, I dropped my craptop. 20081109 08:59:23 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 09:02:26 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081109 09:05:46 -!- maxy [n=maxy@80-219-1-12.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 09:08:39 -!- wesbot [n=wesbot@86.59.118.153] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081109 09:10:19 -!- mordante [n=chatzill@roadie.xs4all.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 09:11:08 morning 20081109 09:11:48 -!- wesbot [n=wesbot@86.59.118.153] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 09:14:26 hello mordante 20081109 09:14:41 hi Blueblaze 20081109 09:21:16 wesbot: topic 20081109 09:21:18 -!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.6 released, will announce soon | List 1.6 features here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6Features | 58 bugs, 210 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://wesnoth.org/irclogs | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081109 09:33:42 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 20081109 09:36:24 -!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-101-158.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 09:55:16 -!- wildpenguin [n=chris@ppp121-45-55-177.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 09:55:23 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 20081109 10:22:06 so, was 1.5.6 supposed to be tagged tonight or next weekend or when? 20081109 10:25:04 -!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.247.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 10:25:25 -!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.247.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 10:47:23 moin 20081109 10:47:53 hi Ivanovic 20081109 10:53:13 esr it seems the header cleanup was a bit too aggressive, fixing it now 20081109 10:55:57 esr removing #include from foo.cpp is a really bad idea in general 20081109 10:56:39 :) 20081109 11:02:17 :o) 20081109 11:15:30 :-) 20081109 11:15:51 That's the trouble with mechanical tool. 20081109 11:16:26 I figured such problems would be easily enough fetected and fixed to make it a net gain. 20081109 11:16:27 esr I'm quite sure you can add an exception for that case ;) 20081109 11:16:51 s/fetected/detected/ 20081109 11:17:17 also I wonder how you managed to compile :/ I found one missing header which really shouldn't compile 20081109 11:17:24 The really interesting question is why all my test compiles worked but yours are failing. 20081109 11:17:50 I made quite sure I did a complete link and build before I committed. 20081109 11:18:12 well it might be some of my stricter settings which complained about the missing foo.hpp 20081109 11:23:24 mordante * r30661 /trunk/src/campaign_server/campaign_server.cpp: Add a missing header. 20081109 11:23:26 mordante * r30662 /trunk/src/unit_display.hpp: Add a missing header. 20081109 11:23:30 mordante * r30663 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Add missing foo.hpp in foo.cpp. 20081109 11:24:10 esr 30661 and especially 30662 surprise me a log 30633 might be my stricter compilation settings 20081109 11:24:27 a lot* 20081109 11:24:29 mordante, 7 file called foo ... It can confuse people :o) 20081109 11:24:29 * loonycyborg wonders why crimson_penguin thinks that pixman depends on pango. 20081109 11:24:47 pixman has no dependencies. 20081109 11:25:05 EdB next time I'll use bar ;) 20081109 11:28:04 esr: After your header cleanup I bet we'll have a lot of problems on other platforms :) 20081109 11:28:19 * mordante fears that as well 20081109 11:29:09 Since some headers include other headers and what headers depends on the libstdc++ implementation. 20081109 11:30:02 Or POSIX implementation. 20081109 11:41:31 -!- EdB [n=EdB@249.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20081109 11:44:40 esr now that I review the code I think 30662 was caused due to other includes which caused the header to have the define, since you didn't touch .hpp files 20081109 11:52:39 esr: Did you try to compile campaignd too? 20081109 11:52:58 loonycyborg I did 20081109 11:53:32 For meit gives errors about SIGINT etc 20081109 11:54:01 loonycyborg for me too but fixed that in r30661 for me 20081109 11:54:29 * loonycyborg runs git svn rebase 20081109 11:57:47 esr slightly confused, why does your script sometimes remove a line and sometimes replace it with a blank line? 20081109 12:00:51 kk. campaignd is fixed after svn up. 20081109 12:01:19 ok 20081109 12:15:10 mordante * r30664 /trunk/Makefile.am: 20081109 12:15:10 Remove some no longer existing files. 20081109 12:15:10 This fixes building with autotools. 20081109 12:15:40 loonycyborg is campaign_server.dsp still needed? 20081109 12:17:22 -!- miq [n=miq@krlh-5d857ae2.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 12:17:27 No. I just missed it :) 20081109 12:18:21 do I need to do special things for scons, since it's needed for autotools 20081109 12:18:51 No. SCons doesn't list them anywhere. 20081109 12:19:07 then I'll remove it and update autotools 20081109 12:19:10 If you mean project files. 20081109 12:19:21 yes I did 20081109 12:20:10 I'll also remove map_editor.dsp since I assume it's also obsolete 20081109 12:20:22 Yes. 20081109 12:21:23 mordante: Since scons currently builds tarballs as svn snapshots listing files that go in tarball is unnecessary. 20081109 12:22:11 ok 20081109 12:27:47 mordante: The tool only removes lines. 20081109 12:29:08 odd the GNA webtool also lists some changes to blank lines instead of removals 20081109 12:30:21 mordante * r30665 /trunk/ (Makefile.am campaign_server.dsp map_editor.dsp): Remove some more obsolete .dsp files. 20081109 13:02:18 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 13:04:36 -!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 13:07:17 -!- zookeeper [i=zookeepe@83-102-43-241.customers.ktab.fn.fi] has quit [] 20081109 13:21:06 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 14:01:46 thebest0 20081109 14:02:07 wtf 20081109 14:02:17 black screen? 20081109 14:04:27 -!- EdB [n=EdB@249.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 14:12:32 -!- wildpenguin [n=chris@ppp121-45-55-177.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081109 14:33:59 -!- Smar [n=smar@a88-112-77-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 15:28:03 -!- Rrrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 15:37:35 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20081109 15:38:59 -!- Rrrenys is now known as Rrenys 20081109 16:02:40 -!- Smar [n=smar@a88-112-77-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 16:17:44 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-153-24.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 16:37:31 -!- Rrrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 16:37:35 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 16:39:39 -!- grrrX [n=_@p57BBD7FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 16:47:37 -!- EdB [n=EdB@249.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20081109 16:48:17 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20081109 16:57:09 -!- grrrX [n=_@p57BBD7FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20081109 17:06:40 hi 20081109 17:06:53 AI0867: I'll be releasing wesnoth-tc 1.0 today 20081109 17:08:09 -!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe11fa00-51.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 17:10:12 Shadow_Master: great =) 20081109 17:15:21 so um... can other people compile trunk? 20081109 17:15:35 because I could yesterday, but then I couldn't after esr's change 20081109 17:16:04 I believe mordante fixed that 20081109 17:16:26 well I just updated, and I'm still getting errors 20081109 17:17:06 in language.cpp, filesystem.cpp and clipboard.cpp (the last one is obviously a Mac-specific problem) 20081109 17:17:13 k, I'll compile and see whether it works 20081109 17:18:14 crimson_penguin I can compile (linux) but I still have some changes which look suspisious 20081109 17:18:27 oh, also ai.cpp 20081109 17:18:49 mordante: definitely the mac-specific include in clipboard.cpp needs to come back 20081109 17:19:17 language.cpp:202,204: error: 'errno' was not declared in this scope 20081109 17:19:21 yes that file is on my list 20081109 17:19:43 clipboard^ 20081109 17:20:10 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 17:20:47 oh, in filesystem.cpp, that's probably just my fault; I should define LOCALEDIR 20081109 17:21:12 in language.cpp has been removed 20081109 17:21:22 esr around? 20081109 17:22:59 AI0867: http://shadowm.nfshost.com/src/wesnoth-tc-1.0.0.tar.bz2 20081109 17:23:38 you should no longer need to do black magic on your own for it to locate the definitions file, as long as you have the executable somewhere along with it 20081109 17:28:30 ai.cpp:1317: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct end_level_exception' 20081109 17:28:51 -!- Rrrenys is now known as Rrenys 20081109 17:28:54 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-153-24.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 17:29:28 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@80-123-44-132.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 17:30:56 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [Success] 20081109 17:36:25 -!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 17:41:17 * Shadow_Master stays away from scons until this gets fixed 20081109 17:41:56 what's wrong with scons? 20081109 17:43:40 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 17:45:00 hi Sirp 20081109 17:48:28 mordante: replace scons with any other build system. I just don't want to recompile until trunk is fixed :P 20081109 17:48:33 AI0867: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22859 20081109 17:48:52 Shadow_Master: Are you reffering to crimson_penguin's penguin's errors which occur only on mac and have nothing todowith scons? 20081109 17:48:58 Shadow_Master compilation seems to work on linux 20081109 17:49:11 s/penguin's// 20081109 17:49:47 Hi mordante 20081109 17:49:53 gah, this library links to two versions of the same library (actually the same version, one's just more specific than the other) 20081109 17:50:32 loonycyborg: yes (and I said, "replace scons with any other build system") 20081109 17:51:04 okay, I guess I can let it recompile everything then... 20081109 17:51:26 so can anyone tell me what remaining AI bugs there are after my fixes? 20081109 17:51:29 * crimson_penguin doesn't urgently need trunk to be fixed, since he hasn't got his libraries set up for linking yet... but hopefully when they are ready, it'll be fixed 20081109 17:51:54 mordante: sorry, you were wrong: "src/tests/main.cpp:112: error: ‘auto_unit_test_suite_t’ is not a member of ‘boost::unit_test" 20081109 17:52:14 Shadow_Master which boost version? 20081109 17:52:21 1.33 :) 20081109 17:52:32 It works for me with 1.36 20081109 17:52:36 I expected that ;) 20081109 17:52:46 this didn't happen yesterday :p 20081109 17:53:15 That's because esr performed semi-automatic cleaning of headers. 20081109 17:53:17 Shadow_Master revert the changes to src/tests/main.cpp 20081109 17:53:42 give me two days and I can do it 20081109 17:53:50 Most likely 1.33 specific #includes got cleaned.. 20081109 17:54:19 Sirp did you fix the AI in bay of pearls? 20081109 17:54:44 mordante: was the problem that the leader was teleporting around? 20081109 17:54:44 loonycyborg: can you test if IftU still breaks with the AI? 20081109 17:55:04 * loonycyborg tests 20081109 17:55:15 shikadibot: file /trunk/src/tests/main.cpp 20081109 17:55:16 Web interface URL to file /trunk/src/tests/main.cpp: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/src/tests/main.cpp?view=log 20081109 17:55:17 Shadow_Master: color_range.cpp: In function ‘std::vector > string2rgb(std::string)’: 20081109 17:55:20 color_range.cpp:110: error: ‘strtol’ was not declared in this scope 20081109 17:55:22 make: *** [color_range.o] Error 1 20081109 17:55:23 Sirp no the it's the AI waiting for you to get close enough to attack otherwise it idles 20081109 17:55:36 mordante: ahhh, do we have a saved game that demonstrates the problem? 20081109 17:56:12 Sirp no but just start HTTT and use :cl to jump to that level 20081109 17:56:18 AI0867: add #include 20081109 17:56:24 (at least I'm not aware of a savegame) 20081109 17:56:25 mordante: okay 20081109 17:56:39 btw great to see you back in action :) 20081109 17:57:20 thanks. :) 20081109 17:57:57 Shadow_Master: No. They're still sluggards :( 20081109 17:58:14 s/No/Yes 20081109 18:01:48 so, the AI is still borked 20081109 18:02:34 mordante: do I revert r30659 on that particular dir, or everywhere? 20081109 18:02:49 Shadow_Master only that file 20081109 18:03:38 um, I 'll go for the whole tests dir 20081109 18:04:13 can you try that one file to see whether it fixes the problem, I would like to revert only what's needed 20081109 18:04:22 Shadow_Master: it was needed in wesnoth-tc.cpp and color_range.cpp 20081109 18:06:00 AI0867: your libstdc++ version? 20081109 18:06:19 mordante: okey-dokey 20081109 18:07:33 mordante: I have boost 1.33 installed along with 1.36 so I can repro and fix it myself. 20081109 18:07:41 testing... 20081109 18:07:46 shikadibot: file /trunk/src/clipboard.cpp 20081109 18:07:46 Web interface URL to file /trunk/src/clipboard.cpp: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/src/clipboard.cpp?view=log 20081109 18:08:04 loonycyborg: don't steal my job :) 20081109 18:08:22 ok :) 20081109 18:08:28 mordante: fixed compilation, now I have to wait for linking to take place 20081109 18:08:52 esr in case you read the logs, I think it would be a good thing not to test and remove any conditional headers 20081109 18:11:34 esr but I really like the tool :) 20081109 18:12:08 I'm watching ar consume RAM to death and start swapping as usual 20081109 18:13:10 -!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe11fa00-51.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 20081109 18:13:15 it seems in the __APPLE__ part of language.cpp errno is still used 20081109 18:14:23 the problem in ai.cpp doesn't seem to be Mac specific though... 20081109 18:17:01 Shadow_Master: How much RAM do you have? 20081109 18:20:34 * crimson_penguin can't figure out what to include again for ai.cpp 20081109 18:21:01 -!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe11fa00-51.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 18:22:02 crimson_penguin can you paste the compiler output? 20081109 18:22:21 ai.cpp:1318: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct end_level_exception' 20081109 18:22:30 actions.hpp:47: error: forward declaration of 'struct end_level_exception' 20081109 18:23:22 -!- grrrX [n=_@p57BBD7FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 18:23:25 but the strange thing is, actions.hpp isn't included by ai.cpp anymore 20081109 18:23:44 maybe it is indirectly... but still, I don't get it 20081109 18:23:55 we have some headers including each other 20081109 18:24:17 but end_level_exception is defined in menu_events.hpp 20081109 18:24:58 oh 20081109 18:25:36 it's forward declared in action.hpp so it can use a pointer to the struct 20081109 18:25:51 including that fixes it :) 20081109 18:25:59 nice 20081109 18:26:49 loonycyborg: 938.14 MB reported 20081109 18:27:29 * loonycyborg has 1.5 GB and never had swapping even with debug builds 20081109 18:27:48 even with -DGLIBCXX_DEBUG 20081109 18:27:54 512 MB and almost never swap 20081109 18:28:12 crap, apparently there's so little power that my mini inverter won't work anymore 20081109 18:28:41 apparently my X server is consuming too much memory? 20081109 18:28:57 mordante: fixed. should I commit? 20081109 18:28:59 * crimson_penguin has 4GB and has no problems with compiling :) 20081109 18:29:08 AI0867: actually, libc version? 20081109 18:29:12 Shadow_Master yes please 20081109 18:31:37 shadowmaster * r30666 /trunk/src/tests/main.cpp: 20081109 18:31:37 * Revert r30659 on this single file to fix test suite builds on Boost 20081109 18:31:37 * 1.33.x. 20081109 18:32:12 the number of the devil ;) 20081109 18:32:37 Shadow_Master: libc6 2.8 20081109 18:33:19 okay, I have 2.6 20081109 18:34:08 AI0867: does it work? 20081109 18:34:39 gah! the current Mac release is UB, isn't it? these libraries from it don't seem to be :-/ 20081109 18:34:57 Shadow_Master: Under kde if you press Ctrl-Esc you'll get system monitor. You can use it to research what's eating your memory. 20081109 18:34:59 i'm kind of late, since I already released 1.0.0a, but ... :) 20081109 18:36:22 it works after adding #include to those two files 20081109 18:38:39 loonycyborg: firefox, kded, knotify, konqueror , kate, xorg, in that order (the last one with VMsize of 200,612) 20081109 18:39:03 I'm getting the same :) 20081109 18:39:24 229.058 even 20081109 18:41:12 graphics card? 20081109 18:41:58 Wait.. X eats merely 163.164 for me. 20081109 18:42:09 229.. was for firefox. 20081109 18:42:21 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 18:42:52 And kded, knotify don't eat more than xorg for me. 20081109 18:54:29 15245 ai 20 0 565m 125m 14m S 1.0 25.5 24:34.37 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.3/firefox 20081109 18:54:32 13173 root 20 0 417m 38m 2332 S 4.9 7.7 10:15.25 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth vt10 20081109 18:54:35 15219 ai 20 0 93172 21m 14m S 0.0 4.3 1:06.69 plasma 20081109 18:55:04 aw man, I guess the reason there aren't any good builds of pango and gmodule, is that 1.4 doesn't require them, so I will have to make them myself afterall 20081109 18:56:15 * loonycyborg is still struggling to get useful system information from command line on Unix. 20081109 18:56:22 "wesnoth stable doesn't require it, so it doesn't exist"? 20081109 18:56:31 loonycyborg: free and top are great 20081109 18:57:04 I'll throw my .toprc on pastebin 20081109 18:57:17 I know about top but don't know how to make it sort by memory used. 20081109 18:57:39 http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/f1c3e4ffd <-- not written by me btw 20081109 18:57:52 loonycyborg: use '<' and '>' to sort using different columns 20081109 18:58:39 -!- Smar [n=smar@a88-113-60-192.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 19:00:36 AI0867: wesnoth stable doesn't require what? 20081109 19:00:57 I was just interpreting what crimson_penguin said 20081109 19:01:03 sounded odd to me too 20081109 19:01:24 I mean, there isn't one made by the current mac guy 20081109 19:01:36 * crimson_penguin can't remember his nick :-/ 20081109 19:01:43 right. 1.4 doesn't use pango , glib or any of those G stuff 20081109 19:01:51 crimson_penguin: anakayub 20081109 19:01:58 Thanks 20081109 19:02:00 AI0867: thx. That .toprc made top much more usable :) 20081109 19:02:42 It even highlights column it sorts by. 20081109 19:03:41 wow 20081109 19:08:15 mordante: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22856 20081109 19:08:25 wasn't that wiki page autogenerated bbefore? 20081109 19:09:31 no that page is manually generated 20081109 19:10:22 ugh. perhaps someone wants to update it? 20081109 19:11:54 while you are at it, include a column for 1.2 terrain types (where a mapping to 1.4/1.5 exists) 20081109 19:12:27 grrrX I added that initially but somebody removed it :/ 20081109 19:12:39 oh 20081109 19:12:45 that should be easy to fix 20081109 19:15:12 I suppose that was result of the wiki cleanup for 1.4 20081109 19:16:07 it was esr, btw 20081109 19:16:47 why would you want to work with 1.2 terrains nowadays, anyway? 20081109 19:17:03 well, even if wmllint does convert it for you such a column helps if you work on old WML, preferably from other authors (that is, where you need to understand it yourself, not just handle it over to a tool) 20081109 19:17:09 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 19:18:18 the idea is to pass stuff to wmllint :p 20081109 19:18:27 or so would it be in a perfect world 20081109 19:21:01 This is the day on which I wanted to release IftU for 1.5.x on the addons server. And the AI got in my way :( 20081109 19:22:21 Shadow_Master: Poke Sirp about AI. 20081109 19:22:43 he's working on it. 20081109 19:22:48 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 19:22:55 oh, I forgot to mention that stupid underyling_id's mess :) 20081109 19:23:31 * Shadow_Master holds his hopes on mordante 20081109 19:26:14 can you colorize tables in mediawiki? If I were to bring back the 1.2 terrain type column it may be helpful to have it colored in a warning color, say red-ish 20081109 19:26:51 grrrX IIRC it should be possible, look at the wikimedia formatting 20081109 19:27:15 grrrX: look here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus 20081109 19:27:45 ah thanks 20081109 19:27:53 Shadow_Master good luck hoping :P 20081109 19:30:00 how many goats should I sacrifice? 20081109 19:30:24 15 times the number of AI bugs. 20081109 19:30:49 enough to give me enough time to code ;) 20081109 19:32:40 I don't think I can gather that many before 1.5.6 is released :( 20081109 19:33:24 mordante: The tool already has logic to detect when headeras are surrounded by #ifdef or #ifndef and not remove them. Is there another case I missed? 20081109 19:33:54 Shadow_Master: Don't gather them... just kill them as you find them. 20081109 19:34:26 that would be a loss of blood. 20081109 19:34:37 a massive sacrifice is better :p 20081109 19:34:49 Fine... 20081109 19:35:00 Then make it 5 times the number of AI bugs. 20081109 19:35:14 esr, any objections of bringing back an "old terrain type" column for http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TerrainCodesWML ? 20081109 19:35:47 esr we use #if at some places and code in the #else branch also is unprotected 20081109 19:36:34 grrrX: Yes. I think it would be a bad idea. The thing to do with old maps is upconvert them; they're just as understandable, if not more so, in new syntax, 20081109 19:36:44 esr and in clipboard.cpp code in #ifdef _WIN32 around line 372 is also removed (nested if(def)? ) 20081109 19:37:51 mordante: Damn, I forgot about the #if case. But I do have logic for nested #ifdefs, and I tested it. There must be some other sort of edge case. 20081109 19:38:02 there. 20081109 19:38:25 ah, but it is not about maps per se, just about reading old WML, say with old-style terrain filters. then, you first want to read and perhaps even rewrite the code. for that, wmllint does not help 20081109 19:38:35 I just looked at my list of cases and except for the clipboard they all seem to be #if or an #else branch 20081109 19:39:38 grrrX: So, you should read it in the new syntax. That way you won't risk modifying it in the old one. 20081109 19:40:24 * esr just fixed the #if problem. 20081109 19:40:30 :) 20081109 19:40:46 should I revert the problematic cases esr ? 20081109 19:40:55 Sure. 20081109 19:41:25 Code here, if you're interested. http://rafb.net/p/u1G7lu64.html 20081109 19:45:21 -!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-43-119.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 20081109 19:49:18 esr I think you also need cases for #else and #elif 20081109 19:51:36 Why? I just ignore them. The idea is not to mess with headers until the closing #endif. Special logic for #else and #elif would make sense only if we were trying to detect which conditionalizations are active. While this might be a good idea when possible, I thought it would be too complex to implement at this stage. 20081109 19:53:11 ok then the removal in the #else branch was due to the opening #if 20081109 19:53:23 mordante: Yes. 20081109 19:53:51 -!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-43-119.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 19:55:37 mordante * r30667 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 20081109 19:55:37 Partly revert r30659. 20081109 19:55:37 The deheader tool didn't recognize #if so processed them. The revert has been 20081109 19:55:37 done manually to keep the unneeded headers out. 20081109 20:00:01 mordante: Problems in only 4 files out of, what was it, 206? I feel better now. 20081109 20:00:23 I never said there were large problems ;) 20081109 20:01:16 and I would have been surprised if there wouldn't have been some false positives and I do expect some more to pop up in the next week 20081109 20:01:20 Not that I was really worried; given what it does I thought deheader-induced breakage would be quite easy to detect and fix. 20081109 20:01:38 but well that means the tools needs to be tuned a bit more 20081109 20:01:52 Yes. I'll work on it. 20081109 20:02:07 thanks :) 20081109 20:02:45 once the tool is finished we can run it on a regular basis so the header clutter can be lowered permanently 20081109 20:03:01 The logic is really, *really* simple, actually. Just 215 lines of code. 20081109 20:03:16 240 ;) :P 20081109 20:03:36 I didn't count the heder comment at the top :-) 20081109 20:03:44 :) 20081109 20:05:51 mordante: The reall challenge will be analyzing .hpp headers the same way. That's trickier and more expensive for a couple of differentvreasons, starting with the fact that you really want to do a teat comple of every .cpp that includes the header you're examining. 20081109 20:06:07 s/teat/test/ 20081109 20:06:17 do not rely on .hpp always meaning C++ 20081109 20:06:29 yes and header might include other headers 20081109 20:06:51 Shadow_Master: It's OK, the logic handle C as well. 20081109 20:07:19 One edge case I did trip over is .i files. I think I need to never remove those. 20081109 20:07:27 or you do a full recompile with every header, depending on the speed of your machine it might be feasable 20081109 20:07:28 * Shadow_Master wonders if there are projects using the crazy convention of extension-less headers for C++ code 20081109 20:07:50 * besides libstdc++, MS C++, etc. 20081109 20:08:15 OK, gotta go get food. bbl. 20081109 20:08:22 well there are also .C .cxx and some other extensions used for cpp files ;) 20081109 20:08:29 bye esr 20081109 20:09:01 I'm off to watch some TV, bbl 20081109 20:09:37 .ii, . ixx :P 20081109 20:19:48 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081109 20:23:54 -!- maxy [n=maxy@80-219-1-12.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081109 20:28:44 -!- chains [n=Rylar@adsl-75-31-248-85.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081109 20:29:22 zookeeper * r30668 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/06_The_Siege_of_Elensefar.cfg: Made the orcish leader recruit mostly lvl1 units (with a couple of lvl2's) in Siege of Elensefar on easy difficulty. 20081109 20:29:31 completely untested, but i'd expect that to make the scenario somewhat easier on easy. 20081109 20:29:45 and now to write the 1.4.6 announcement 20081109 20:29:57 based on the number of newbies always complaining how it's such a difficult scenario, i think that's ok. 20081109 20:39:53 go Ivanovic, go! 20081109 20:40:50 * zookeeper wonders what would be the most elegant way to solve bug #12580 20081109 20:41:00 i mean, how the carryover should work in those scenarios. 20081109 20:41:50 would it be too complicated (to explain) that it's either 1) 100% of the gold you got from BoP or 2) 40% of normal finishing gold, whichever is higher? 20081109 20:42:38 [22:07:20] Shadow_Master wonders if there are projects using the crazy convention of extension-less headers for C++ code 20081109 20:42:42 Qt4 :) 20081109 20:43:09 hmh, maybe i should just do it the simple way and have the player not lose access to his BoP carryover gold in the first place. 20081109 20:44:05 loonycyborg: ho :) 20081109 20:44:21 http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22861 20081109 20:45:16 I suggest that for the 1.5.6 release, we post a link to a free horror book instead of writing an announcement 20081109 20:45:50 preferably one in which the AI kills humans 20081109 20:55:07 -!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.6 released and announced | List 1.6 features here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6Features | 58 bugs, 210 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://wesnoth.org/irclogs | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081109 20:55:13 updated the frontpage 20081109 20:55:15 done with the release 20081109 20:55:40 zookeeper, esr: what is the status regarding strings in campaigns? 20081109 20:58:13 Ivanovic, no change from the last time 20081109 20:59:19 that is, i 20081109 20:59:29 i'll still do some changes in TSG's later scenarios 20081109 20:59:38 ivanovic * r30669 /trunk/po/ (6 files in 6 dirs): updated Italian translation 20081109 21:00:26 zookeeper: is the status for campaigns correct here? http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus 20081109 21:03:34 hmm...yes 20081109 21:03:56 who is working on sotbe? 20081109 21:04:10 and is anyone working on utbs? 20081109 21:08:07 according to commit logs nobody is working on sotbe, espreon is doing something with utbs 20081109 21:08:28 wesbot: seen espreon 20081109 21:08:29 Ivanovic: The person with the nick Espreon last spoke 1h 33m ago. 48m 40s ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]" 20081109 21:08:41 zook was working on sotbe 20081109 21:09:51 zookeeper: so if you are not working on sotbe, can i set it to "ready"? 20081109 21:10:44 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-220-201.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 21:11:41 <[Relic]> Hello :) 20081109 21:18:45 Ivanovic, i'm still hoping to work on that _one_ scenario 20081109 21:19:04 so only "civil war"? 20081109 21:19:14 yes 20081109 21:19:23 other than that, i'm probably not going to do anything on it 20081109 21:19:46 dave * r30670 /trunk/src/ai_move.cpp: fixed problem with AI not moving out of its castle in Bay of Pearls 20081109 21:20:03 \o/ 20081109 21:20:13 okay, any other AI problems for me to fix? 20081109 21:21:37 Ivanovic, i'll update the SotBE status 20081109 21:24:30 oh, you already did. 20081109 21:25:05 ??? 20081109 21:25:15 i did nothing to the page 20081109 21:25:31 i've already updated :) 20081109 21:25:31 oh, sorry. someone else did then. 20081109 21:25:58 shouldn't i mark for instance SotBE with "wait for stringfreeze" instead? 20081109 21:26:27 "not ready" is fine 20081109 21:26:39 zookeeper: any estimates on when you will have this stuff done? 20081109 21:26:51 yes, i would love to start the soft string freeze in some hours 20081109 21:27:14 but with the exception of detailed changes listed on the textdomainstatus page 20081109 21:27:35 so: when "changes to "civil war" planned" is lsited, this is still allowed for ~2 weeks 20081109 21:28:22 okay I'm going to take it that all AI bugs are fixed unless/until someone tells me otherwise. :) 20081109 21:28:23 well, none of what i plan to do is _critical_, so if i don't manage it in 2 weeks, then it's no catastrophy if they're left out 20081109 21:28:39 Sirp, yeah, i'll try to test it a bit soon 20081109 21:28:58 okay, when nothing is critical about this stuff, then i'll make the time one week 20081109 21:29:00 :) 20081109 21:29:05 bah 20081109 21:29:26 ivanovic * r30671 /trunk/ (994 files in 27 dirs): 20081109 21:29:26 pot-update 20081109 21:29:26 regenerated doc files 20081109 21:29:49 fine, i'll just write in every string i can imagine that i might want to use, and then later on write the actual scenario changes.. :p 20081109 21:30:01 i bet the translators would appreciate that ;) 20081109 21:33:19 zookeeper: just work normally on the stuff and make sure that it is in a good shape on sunday 23rd november 2008 20081109 21:34:21 set most textdomains (beside those who got planned changes listed) to "soft string freeze" 20081109 21:36:29 -!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: soft stringfreeze for most campaigns: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus | List 1.6 features here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6Features | 58 bugs, 210 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://wesnoth.org/irclogs | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081109 21:57:19 soliton * r30672 /trunk/data/core/units/bats/Bat_Dread.cfg: fixed the dread bat stats 20081109 22:01:03 Sirp: they aren't fixed for me :P 20081109 22:02:21 oh wait, didn't notice your new commits 20081109 22:06:48 nice Sirp :) 20081109 22:06:52 Sirp: i think esr mentioned some endless loop somewhere with the ai 20081109 22:07:01 not 100% sure how to reproduce this and where it was 20081109 22:07:25 Ivanovic: well is there a bug filed? :) 20081109 22:08:31 Sirp has become one with the computer; he can't fix bugs without a filed bug report ;) 20081109 22:08:49 esr is https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12493 now fixed, with Sirp's latest commit? 20081109 22:09:08 I'd be happy to fix the bug, just with some more detail than "i think est mentioned some endless loop somewhere..." :p 20081109 22:09:15 loonycyborg: did IftU get fixed with Sipr's latest commit? 20081109 22:09:16 Yes yes :P 20081109 22:09:48 Sirp: IIRC there was something along those lines in the forum ~2 days ago, too 20081109 22:09:50 ;) 20081109 22:09:58 * crimson_penguin is experiencing the bliss of installing "the best Windows yet" (XP) 20081109 22:10:16 Sirp: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22827 20081109 22:10:21 crimson_penguin I see you got the 1.4.6 done :) 20081109 22:10:23 mordante: well that isn't a "bug". 20081109 22:10:31 mordante: I what where? 20081109 22:10:40 the mac package 20081109 22:10:46 I did no such thing! 20081109 22:10:51 wtf am I doing? :/ 20081109 22:10:53 Lies and slander! 20081109 22:10:56 no idea who created the mac package 20081109 22:11:03 it is just magically available 20081109 22:11:10 interesting 20081109 22:11:19 very interesting 20081109 22:11:34 Sirp ? 20081109 22:11:40 who wants this one? sounds interesting... https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12578 20081109 22:11:50 about crashing in thot final scenario 20081109 22:11:54 * mordante hides before reading 20081109 22:11:58 when the ai leader starts to recruit 20081109 22:12:02 * Shadow_Master hides too 20081109 22:12:04 you know, over the years I've slowly gotten better at building stuff on Mac... but it seems like the difficulty of building Wesnoth continues to progress with me :P 20081109 22:12:29 crimson_penguin: hey, we always want to provide you with a good challenge 20081109 22:12:31 yes *the* reason to add pangocairo ;) 20081109 22:12:31 ;) 20081109 22:12:37 Ivanovic: can you actually load that saved game? When I tried to load with trunk it has errors. 20081109 22:12:50 mordante: I knew it! 20081109 22:12:55 :) 20081109 22:12:58 it would've been way too easy without pango/cairo 20081109 22:13:03 you're welcome 20081109 22:13:26 I think I successfully built cairo (after pixman), but pango... graaa, damn g* libraries 20081109 22:14:24 Sirp: i can't because utbs is currently broken 20081109 22:15:11 Ivanovic: ahhh so that's the reason.... 20081109 22:15:18 Ivanovic: well when it's fixed...I will look at the bug. :) 20081109 22:15:46 turns out it was only a circular dependency for its test things (pixman linking to pango) 20081109 22:17:05 -!- chains [n=Rylar@adsl-75-31-248-85.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 22:17:52 compiling is taking too long thanks to the swapping... 20081109 22:18:08 Sirp: fixed 20081109 22:18:14 ivanovic * r30673 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/09_Blood_is_Thicker_Than_Water.cfg: fix two wrong chars preventing utbs from starting 20081109 22:18:16 Ivanovic: okay... 20081109 22:18:29 thank you; will try to repro the bug. 20081109 22:20:14 Ivanovic: are you releasing 1.5.6 or what? 20081109 22:20:19 no 20081109 22:20:45 okay... it just worried me that you never touch WML files unless they are release-critical bugs at release-critical time 20081109 22:20:53 though i would like to get it out in the next days 20081109 22:21:15 Shadow_Master: the critical part about this one was that sirp is around atm and willing to work on fixing bugs 20081109 22:21:17 ;) 20081109 22:21:32 beside this, this one was easy enough 20081109 22:21:52 the errormessage directly naming the wrong char and the file+line 20081109 22:22:00 shadowmaster * r30674 /trunk/src/version.hpp: * Default-initialize sanity parameter for list-constructor. 20081109 22:22:43 Sirp: niice :)" 20081109 22:23:02 my add-on works again! 20081109 22:24:08 Sirp: one report regarding the freezing (sounds like it might already have been fixed): https://gna.org/bugs/?12468 20081109 22:25:41 Shadow_Master: what is the status of https://gna.org/bugs/?12558 ? 20081109 22:25:55 that is: what has to be done to fix the bug? 20081109 22:26:03 loonycyborg I had some looks at the image problems regarding the copying of the singular iterator and I think your fix looks good 20081109 22:26:17 other fixes are more complicated and need quite some code changes 20081109 22:26:36 can you commit your fix with some comment why it's required 20081109 22:26:50 so, where's this Mac package? 20081109 22:26:55 and it would be nice if someone could have a look at https://gna.org/bugs/?12568 20081109 22:27:00 crimson_penguin: linked from the frontpage 20081109 22:27:05 it is at sf.net 20081109 22:27:06 huh 20081109 22:27:19 the thing is, I'm really only having trouble with pango, so a 1.4.6 package isn't gonna help so much 20081109 22:27:24 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20081109 22:27:43 * crimson_penguin already has it, actually 20081109 22:27:53 [Relic] did you already test whether clearing the cache fixes your problem? 20081109 22:28:13 <[Relic]> erasing the whole directory does, removing the cache doesn't 20081109 22:28:15 grml 20081109 22:28:28 Sirp: it might be good if you had a look at this report regarding caches 20081109 22:28:38 it is a problem caused by some changes from suokko 20081109 22:28:41 https://gna.org/bugs/?12568 20081109 22:29:25 Shadow_Master IIRC had another bug due to the cache changes 20081109 22:29:31 zookeeper * r30675 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/05b_Isle_of_the_Damned.cfg: Fixed bug #12580 - now you lose all gold gained during the scenario and just carryover 100% of what you had received from BoP. Also added a little bit of clarifying dialogue. 20081109 22:29:33 sorry for a handful of string changes there, but it was the proper way to fix the problem ;) 20081109 22:29:52 zookeeper: not a problem 20081109 22:29:52 [Relic] which directory the preferences or the installation directory 20081109 22:29:58 so far i have not really announced the freeze 20081109 22:30:05 Ivanovic: 12558 hasn't been fixed or assigned to anyone 20081109 22:30:16 and i would like to talk to someone feeling responsible for utbs, too 20081109 22:30:20 ;) 20081109 22:30:28 Ivanovic: could not repro the freezing bug. 20081109 22:30:56 Shadow_Master yes that's the one I thought of, not that it has anything to do with caching ;) 20081109 22:31:00 Sirp: okay, then just leave a message in the forum post that it is not possible for you to reproduce the bug with current trunk and it might be fixed for him in 1.5.6 20081109 22:31:17 Sirp: would be great if you could have a look at the other bugs i mentioned over the last mins 20081109 22:31:32 -!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe11fa00-51.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20081109 22:32:58 I am not going to clean after this one - it touches AI code too 20081109 22:33:28 and I haven't ever understood well the deal behind unit management, so... :( 20081109 22:36:12 how can you play wesnoth, when you don't understand unit management :P 20081109 22:36:21 * mordante hides 20081109 22:36:59 I have always had problems managing upkeep :) 20081109 22:38:00 Shadow_Master how ready is IftU? 20081109 22:38:31 it only needs balancing, and some art updates from me and kitty 20081109 22:39:05 oh, and prose-doctoring (and history continuity fix-ups, since mainline has changed a *lot* during last month) 20081109 22:39:20 but it's ready and playable? 20081109 22:39:38 s/but/so/ ;) 20081109 22:39:49 it's been ready and playable for 1.4 for a long time already 20081109 22:40:29 It's the 1.5.x development what has encountered various issues (many of themn from mainline,ie 12558) 20081109 22:40:30 well I should start to play wesnoth again a bit and need a victim so guess IftU will be the chosen one 20081109 22:40:51 how is the translation status of it? 20081109 22:40:57 you can always check add-ons out from wesnoth-umc-dev 20081109 22:41:10 uh... translations :S I haven't checked WesCamp for months 20081109 22:41:52 but whatever progress was made for the version on WesCamp (1.4), will be ruined by the many changed strings in 1.5 20081109 22:42:40 yes I could checkout something, but I rather have something which is finished 20081109 22:43:10 and from what I gathered people seem to like IftU a good reason to see whether they're right ;) 20081109 22:43:36 what's the checkout of wesnoth-umc-dev ? 20081109 22:43:36 Ivanovic: can you remove translatable mark at data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/_main.cfg:50. It *really* doesn't belong there. 20081109 22:44:05 mordante: https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Invasion_from_the_Unknown 20081109 22:44:36 the repository's full checkout would be that minus the /trunk/... 20081109 22:44:36 thanks 20081109 22:44:51 stikonas: done 20081109 22:44:52 ivanovic * r30676 /trunk/data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/_main.cfg: names in about should *not* be translateable 20081109 22:45:22 apparently I never got more translations than FR, TR, IT and ES (me) 20081109 22:50:02 ok then I play in English 20081109 22:50:37 might take a while before I start, but want to play a bit and test whether there are more engine bugs 20081109 22:51:53 I haven't playtested since I got back due to the AI bugs, but I fear that 12558 has really ruined it. 20081109 22:53:14 -!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-58-226.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 22:53:27 Ivanovic: the cache bug looks like a pain :-/ 20081109 22:53:52 hello 20081109 22:53:57 hi Noyga 20081109 22:54:18 -!- Espreon [n=chatzill@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 22:54:31 Ivanovic: Yes? 20081109 22:54:40 Espreon: what is the status of utbs? 20081109 22:54:53 please add *detailed* what you plan to change to http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus 20081109 22:55:07 i would prefer to go into a soft stringfreeze right now 20081109 22:55:26 assume that you got no more than 2 weeks to work on stuff that requires string changes 20081109 22:56:00 A soft freeze? 20081109 22:56:31 soft stringfreeze meaning that no changes to strings beside spelling and grammar fixes are allowed 20081109 22:56:41 that is to allow translators to work on a rather fixed target 20081109 22:56:42 Ah, OK. 20081109 22:56:49 * Espreon cries. 20081109 22:56:55 remind him the punishment for not respecting that rule 20081109 22:57:09 * Espreon cries some more. 20081109 22:57:18 Shadow_Master: i don't want to make him cry even more... 20081109 22:57:19 ;) 20081109 22:57:34 Ivanovic is being soft today, interesting 20081109 22:57:54 * Espreon is still crying. 20081109 22:58:02 Shadow_Master: nah, i am just preparing the "tools" for people violating the freeze... 20081109 22:58:28 Lemme think this over for a few mins... OK? 20081109 22:58:40 Espreon: sure 20081109 22:59:00 are you suggesting you'll abandon UtBS too? 20081109 22:59:26 I really wish fendrin did not move... we could have got a lot of stuff done... 20081109 22:59:48 <[Relic]> mordante, uninstalled everything but still needed to wipe out the user directories ~/.wesnoth 20081109 23:00:55 Espreon: you know, eventually we got to start freezing the strings 20081109 23:01:01 Yeah. 20081109 23:01:08 [Relic] really odd :/ 20081109 23:01:44 Ivanovic: Well... 20081109 23:01:57 noyga * r30677 /trunk/data/ (28 files in 5 dirs): Adjust some SVN properties 20081109 23:02:08 [Relic]: rogue addons? 20081109 23:02:50 Ivanovic: If fendrin does not show up tomorrow in order to discuss this I will freeze UtBS' strings. 20081109 23:02:52 noyga * r30678 /trunk/data/core/units/bats/Bat_Dread.cfg: Fixed the description (no string change) 20081109 23:03:34 Is that OK? 20081109 23:03:49 Espreon: yes, that is great 20081109 23:03:59 * Espreon hopes fendrin will show up tomorrow. 20081109 23:04:06 Espreon: if you know that you want to alter some scenarios, it would be great if you listed which ones 20081109 23:04:56 Espreon: fabi has poppedout at the forms, mabe try to PM him 20081109 23:05:09 "Poppedout"? 20081109 23:05:16 wesbot seen fendrin 20081109 23:05:16 mordante: The person with the nick fendrin 2d 7h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Remote closed the connection 20081109 23:05:18 opped out 20081109 23:05:25 argh, damn SSH lag 20081109 23:05:52 well seems IIRC he was on irc not that long ago ;) 20081109 23:05:54 ivanovic * r30679 /trunk/po/ (141 files in 3 dirs): 20081109 23:05:54 another (smaller) pot-update 20081109 23:05:54 starting a basic soft stringfreeze for most campaigns (probably beside sotbe, tsg and utbs as described at http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus ) 20081109 23:06:29 lol, Ivanovic svn up will take me forever this way... 20081109 23:06:39 it is still updating from the last pot-update 20081109 23:06:54 Shadow_Master: this one is really small 20081109 23:06:56 -!- ilor [n=a@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 23:06:59 141 files... sure 20081109 23:07:00 just 100 or 200kb 20081109 23:07:12 yes, but svn transmits data compressed 20081109 23:07:22 that is: those text files compress really well 20081109 23:07:51 I sent him a PM... now we wait. 20081109 23:08:05 and i am off to bed now, n8 20081109 23:08:10 good night 20081109 23:08:15 night Ivanovic 20081109 23:08:19 Good night. 20081109 23:10:53 before i forget this: fosdem 2009 is taking place on 7th/8th febuary 20081109 23:12:49 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@80-123-44-132.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081109 23:12:52 I'll go to give my dog a walk, cya later 20081109 23:12:55 ah good to know, earlier as this year 20081109 23:13:37 Shadow Master has a dog? I thought he hated dogs... 20081109 23:13:44 *hates 20081109 23:14:16 I hate them, but someone forced me to keep him along with my cat in my bedroom... 20081109 23:14:27 Ivanovic: 7/8th feb is exactly the middle of my midterm exams :( 20081109 23:14:29 That sucks... 20081109 23:14:37 ilor: :( 20081109 23:15:09 I can't wait to see you in the videos... who will be the spokesperson this time :P 20081109 23:16:12 you :P 20081109 23:16:46 night 20081109 23:17:08 -!- mordante [n=chatzill@roadie.xs4all.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081109 23:17:51 ... 20081109 23:19:53 Anyway, UtBS will probably be the same thing until the 1.7x branch pops into existence as there are only two weeks until the string freeze, the Quenoth revamp is not finished and is not going to be finished for a long time as it seems. 20081109 23:20:06 *the exact same 20081109 23:21:48 once I finish updating artwork for IftU with kitty, I may have a chance to help UtBS' artwork department 20081109 23:22:14 Shadow_Master: That would be appreciated. 20081109 23:22:33 I also cannot wait for Quietus to get to animating the Verlisshi. 20081109 23:23:03 <[Relic]> Shadow_Master, era of magic didn't work with 1.5.5 or svn so I am wondering if that messed it up 20081109 23:23:15 <[Relic]> couldn't clean the out using remove addons 20081109 23:23:28 [Relic]: Did you try running wmllint on EoMa? 20081109 23:23:32 unless I get too busy with AtS. I doubt it, sin ce it will be a lighter campaign 20081109 23:31:50 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Success] 20081109 23:32:13 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-12-131.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 23:39:49 -!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-58-226.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 20081109 23:45:31 -!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-101-158.vinita.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081109 23:45:52 -!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-101-158.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 23:50:19 -!- Espreon_ [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081109 23:56:27 -!- Espreon [n=chatzill@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081109 23:56:37 -!- Espreon_ is now known as Espreon --- Log closed Mon Nov 10 00:00:31 2008