--- Log opened Sun Nov 16 00:00:47 2008 20081116 00:02:35 ivan_i: btw did you try to use python ais in MP games with trunk? 20081116 00:02:48 not yet 20081116 00:03:22 If I try to use python ai, messages with --log-debug=ai suggests that it uses formula ai instead of python ai. 20081116 00:03:50 maybe something is broken, I don't know 20081116 00:04:30 I actually want to implement more serious overall Python scripting support 20081116 00:04:37 first 20081116 00:05:31 That means that ais will be refactored too, so fixing them now is not what I want 20081116 00:06:18 ok 20081116 00:21:49 -!- Mica [n=Manic_Mi@d14-69-222-189.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 00:22:11 -!- Espreon_ [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 00:28:10 -!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.247.220] has quit ["Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"] 20081116 00:28:45 -!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.247.220] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 00:32:25 -!- ivan_i [n=chatzill@ppp91-76-202-29.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092510]"] 20081116 00:46:07 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081116 00:46:23 -!- Espreon_ is now known as Espreon 20081116 00:47:05 n8 20081116 00:47:13 -!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe11fa00-51.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20081116 00:47:43 Ivanovic: Good night. 20081116 00:47:57 Ivanovic: Did you want me to move it right now? 20081116 00:48:48 Espreon: i'll probably have a look at moving it tomorrow 20081116 00:49:05 All right then, I can continue fixing my system in that case. 20081116 00:50:33 -!- grrrX [n=_@p57BBE3E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20081116 00:53:19 -!- thespaceinvader_ [n=chatzill@91.108.186.80] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 00:53:28 -!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.185.30] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20081116 00:53:31 -!- thespaceinvader_ is now known as thespaceinvader 20081116 01:26:40 -!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@c174122.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 01:26:54 hello everyone 20081116 01:27:54 Sirp, Sirp_: you there? 20081116 01:30:23 -!- boucman [n=rosen@109.83.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 01:35:10 -!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@c174122.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 20081116 02:12:06 -!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.186.80] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]"] 20081116 02:18:16 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 02:22:54 Ivanovic: status update: translations work, pango still doesn't, I do have one idea to try that maaay work... but there's no power now, and tomorrow I'm gonna be gone alll day 20081116 02:32:41 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.220] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 02:56:32 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-220-201.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 02:57:28 <[Relic]> Hello :) 20081116 02:58:19 [Relic]: Hello (-:รพ 20081116 02:59:35 <[Relic]> :) 20081116 03:11:03 -!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 03:17:43 -!- _ping_ [n=ping_c@56343bbe.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 03:27:35 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 03:27:41 -!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Hi! I'm a quit message virus vaccine. If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!"] 20081116 04:05:41 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 04:09:10 -!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 04:14:03 Hello Sapient 20081116 04:14:10 hi self 20081116 04:14:14 hello Blueblazez 20081116 04:14:49 lol 20081116 04:17:23 yeah, misclick ^_^; 20081116 04:19:27 Aww, I can't use [move_unit_fake] from a border hex :| 20081116 04:20:03 that doesn't surprise me 20081116 04:20:45 Meh, worth a shot, it would make a unit's entry a tad bit nicer when they come on the map from the edge 20081116 04:20:51 probably a tricky limitation to remove though 20081116 04:21:19 since algorithms needed for unit movement and display tend to assert that the locations are valid 20081116 04:21:46 and by valid, I mean, on the map 20081116 04:22:40 Yeah, a very minimal gain for a lot of work 20081116 04:22:52 exactly 20081116 04:25:16 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 04:37:56 -!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db26296.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 04:43:58 -!- Blueblazez [n=Blueblaz@95.houston-08rh16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20081116 04:55:12 -!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db2650a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20081116 04:55:54 -!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20081116 04:56:09 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 05:12:14 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 05:24:21 -!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 06:14:36 Sapient: If I use [allow_undo], I have to close it still, right? 20081116 06:14:56 yes. or use {ALLOW_UNDO} 20081116 06:15:02 great little macro 20081116 06:15:11 awesome, thanks 20081116 06:16:06 Mica: how is CoaDQ coming along? 20081116 06:16:28 Great, I have someone helping me and I plan to get it ready for 1.5 soon 20081116 06:16:51 Right now I have 10 out of 16 scenarios, and I plan to refine those 10 before continuing on any further 20081116 06:17:00 ah, so it only works in the stable version right now? 20081116 06:17:24 Yeah, I think so. 20081116 06:17:58 Would you mind helping me with the ice code? I'm not sure what to do. 20081116 06:18:05 for into the underworld 20081116 06:18:27 you are maintaining it now? 20081116 06:18:55 Yeah 20081116 06:19:13 paste what you have now to http://wesnoth.pastebin.com 20081116 06:19:34 or the WML workshop (preferred) 20081116 06:21:12 note: I won't be awake much longer 20081116 06:21:54 Sorry 20081116 06:22:27 http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=21706&p=321549#p321549 20081116 06:23:00 * Sapient checking 20081116 06:23:28 I'll try to find you those macros 20081116 06:23:58 shouldn't you be checking for Ww in the second event? 20081116 06:24:19 Well, most people don't step on Ww, but I should. 20081116 06:24:50 What I wanted to do is what you and zookeeper said in the thread 20081116 06:25:02 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-220-201.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 06:25:34 uh huh. 20081116 06:26:01 Which, I honestly have no idea how. xD 20081116 06:26:32 -!- Sapien-X99 [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 06:26:49 I'm going to take a look at DiD's, and see what zookeeper did 20081116 06:27:08 And then couldn't I just modify that code to work on every side turn? 20081116 06:27:10 I'm taking a crack at it 20081116 06:27:15 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20081116 06:27:16 -!- Sapien-X99 is now known as Sapient 20081116 06:27:23 give me a few mins 20081116 06:30:03 also, I see that you forgot the first_time_only=no 20081116 06:30:07 that's important 20081116 06:30:18 hm? 20081116 06:30:22 although I wish "no" was default 20081116 06:30:44 The first event is the first time only, the second event is everytime after that 20081116 06:30:53 ah 20081116 06:31:11 Bob has this setup weird if you ask me 20081116 06:32:15 Sapient, if I did an [else] with {ALLOW_UNDO} would that work? 20081116 06:32:23 on the second event 20081116 06:32:24 -!- PK [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 06:32:35 no 20081116 06:32:39 no it would not 20081116 06:33:00 it would work for the local player but cause OOS for the remotes 20081116 06:33:03 there has to be some way, because if it equals 1 the ice breaks, if not it doesn't break 20081116 06:33:15 Oh I see 20081116 06:37:10 So how could I make it work? 20081116 06:37:19 I am about to post it 20081116 06:37:37 awesome, I appreciate it 20081116 06:38:45 http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=321550#p321550 20081116 06:42:26 so at the beginning of every side's turn, there is a 1-in-4 chance that any ice hex will be designated as a trap hex 20081116 06:42:57 oops, I found a problem 20081116 06:43:04 don't use that code lol 20081116 06:43:37 lol ok 20081116 06:45:51 Mica: ok, try refresh the page ;) 20081116 06:46:47 thank you 20081116 06:48:35 hmm.. I see another problem 20081116 06:48:47 it is possible to get damaged twice on the first misstep 20081116 06:48:49 lol 20081116 06:49:06 so the second event should be a spawned event of the first event 20081116 06:50:33 Mica: refresh page please ;) 20081116 06:51:22 thanks 20081116 06:52:05 that could cause a problem when you step into non-icey water 20081116 06:52:38 so you should really add some x,y restrictions to the part where it says [or] terrain=Ww 20081116 06:53:24 cya later, have fun. 20081116 06:53:24 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20081116 06:55:29 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.220.201] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 06:56:25 <[Relic]> Hello :) 20081116 07:30:25 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 20081116 07:37:46 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.220.201] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 07:38:53 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 07:58:54 -!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Client Quit] 20081116 08:27:15 -!- PK1 [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 08:28:31 -!- PK1 [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20081116 08:32:15 -!- Mica [n=Manic_Mi@d14-69-222-189.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["What did you say? 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Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081116 14:41:16 -!- Neoriceisgod [n=neoguid@c15222.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 14:41:30 * Neoriceisgod grumbles 20081116 14:47:57 loonybot << "wesboth: hug Neoriceisgod" 20081116 14:48:01 wesboth: hug Neoriceisgod 20081116 14:48:17 loonybot << "wesbot: hug Neoriceisgod" 20081116 14:48:18 wesbot: hug Neoriceisgod 20081116 14:48:19 * wesbot hugs Neoriceisgod 20081116 14:57:50 >:C 20081116 14:57:57 loonycyborg: "when I ran unins000.exe in the 1.4.5 folder, it removed 1.4.6 from the Add/Remove list !" (see #wesnoth) 20081116 15:02:02 loonybot << "wesbot: hug shikadibot" 20081116 15:02:03 wesbot: hug shikadibot 20081116 15:02:04 * wesbot hugs shikadibot 20081116 15:02:16 ivanovic * r30771 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-nr/fi.po wesnoth-sotbe/fi.po): updated Finnish translation 20081116 15:02:40 -!- shikadibot [n=ai@van-gessel.demon.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 15:02:45 ivanovic * r30772 /branches/1.4/ (players_changelog po/wesnoth-nr/fi.po po/wesnoth-sotbe/fi.po): updated Finnish translation 20081116 15:03:13 loonybot << "wesbot: hug shikadibot" 20081116 15:03:14 No change in output. 20081116 15:03:18 =/ 20081116 15:27:26 -!- PK0 [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 15:38:42 -!- Neoriceisgod [n=neoguid@c15222.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [] 20081116 15:57:51 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 16:13:56 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@bas2-ottawa10-1279281984.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 16:22:49 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 20081116 16:31:43 esr * r30773 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/06b_In_the_Domain_of_Dwarves.cfg: events.cfg no longer exists. 20081116 17:01:42 ever since I upgraded to ubuntu 8.10, this maachihne s been very prone to trashing, right now it even seems to be affecting the order in which my keyboard-presses arrive... 20081116 17:02:23 one of the causes may be that firefox, when run, ststar out with allocating at least 200 MB of memory 20081116 17:02:54 but even without it disk usage can suddenly spike and grind everything to a halt 20081116 17:03:08 killing trackerd didnt help eeithr 20081116 17:04:46 * loonycyborg remembers some articles on slashdot implying that ubuntu because more and more slower with each new version 20081116 17:05:01 s/because/becomes 20081116 17:06:03 AI0867: Consider yourself lucky that you don't have Vista :) 20081116 17:06:37 this wasn't some gradual process, I didn't have any trashing in 8.04 and before unless I started GIMP, firefox, wesnoth and then some more 20081116 17:06:52 right now justin takes over a minute 20081116 17:07:33 s/justin/just logging/ 20081116 17:07:56 How much RAM do you have? 20081116 17:08:04 512 20081116 17:08:39 that's not a lot, but 8.04 ran fine on it 20081116 17:09:18 vista would keel over and die, 8.10 seems to be doing its best to emulate it 20081116 17:09:54 How does one upgrade ubuntu, anyway? Does this happen automatically with system updates? 20081116 17:10:19 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-134-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 17:11:52 there's a tool that the package manager will download for you 20081116 17:12:16 it first checks for diskspace, then switches to the new repositories and performs all the upgrades 20081116 17:13:06 CPU usage: 15% us, 85% wait 20081116 17:14:50 * loonycyborg never used a binary distro with the exception of having an ubuntu partition for testing. His first distro was Gentoo :) 20081116 17:15:53 heh, mine too 20081116 17:16:04 -!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20081116 17:17:24 but this is not exclusively my laptop, so gentoo isn't really an option 20081116 17:17:34 -!- grrrX [n=_@p57BBD5B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 17:20:28 maybe I should switch it to debian =/ 20081116 17:22:36 -!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 17:35:03 -!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.247.220] has left #wesnoth-dev ["In Soviet Russia, channel /parts YOU!!"] 20081116 17:35:40 -!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.247.220] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 17:50:32 -!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-220-201.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 17:51:33 <[Relic]> Hello :) 20081116 18:02:16 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 18:04:08 hi everyone 20081116 18:06:08 hi Sirp 20081116 18:06:11 Sirp, i've managed a reproducible (for me, anyway) AI freeze in r30745 20081116 18:06:24 hi crimson_penguin 20081116 18:06:32 crimson_penguin: any progress on the cairo front? 20081116 18:06:42 i have a savefile which freezes on the following AI turn every time 20081116 18:06:42 was your possible solution successfull? 20081116 18:07:49 Ivanovic: no, I didn't do it in the car; wasn't that long of a drive :-/ but maybe on the way home... 20081116 18:07:56 or maybe while I'm here, we'll see how it goes 20081116 18:07:57 okay 20081116 18:08:07 I'm at a workshop right now, and it's time for lunch 20081116 18:09:13 but I may even try it while lunch :D 20081116 18:09:48 have to move now though 20081116 18:09:55 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@bas2-ottawa10-1279281984.dsl.bell.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 18:11:01 -!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.186.80] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 18:13:19 ivanovic * r30774 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/it.po wesnoth-lib/it.po wesnoth-units/it.po): updated Italian translation 20081116 18:15:07 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-134-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 18:19:47 anything new regarding UTBS? 20081116 18:19:57 or should i move it to branches/ now? 20081116 18:21:01 wesbot seen sapient 20081116 18:21:02 PK0: The person with the nick Sapient last spoke 11h 27m ago. 11h 27m ago person left: 20081116 18:25:10 -!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 18:34:12 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20081116 18:41:44 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 18:44:26 -!- miq [n=miq@krlh-5d854ba3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 18:59:10 -!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-122-89.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 19:24:01 -!- ABCD [n=abcd@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit ["leaving"] 20081116 19:27:18 -!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 19:53:09 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 19:59:15 anyone know if i can search through my forum PMs? 20081116 20:02:43 Soliton, well if there is anyway you could get all your forum pms to display on one page, then you could "Export as XML" then just search the file document 20081116 20:03:27 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-134-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:11:47 -!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: soft stringfreeze for most campaigns: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus | List 1.6 features here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6Features | 52 bugs, 210 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://wesnoth.org/irclogs | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add 20081116 20:14:08 -!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 20:27:37 okay, removed utbs from mainline 20081116 20:27:52 that is: moved the content over to branches/utbs (including translations) 20081116 20:28:29 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:32:17 zookeeper: if you can file a bug report with the save attached and assign it to me, I'll try to look at it sometime today. 20081116 20:32:26 or you can just send me an email if you prefer. 20081116 20:33:49 -!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.247.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:34:06 -!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.247.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:34:33 Sirp, ok, i'll file a bug. the reason i asked first was because i wasn't sure if there had been any AI fixes after that rev. 20081116 20:35:15 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-134-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 20:36:33 Sapient, in the [statistics] part of savefiles, i see stuff like [team] [recalls] Goblin Pillager="1" 20081116 20:36:38 how come that doesn't cause errors? 20081116 20:36:44 ivanovic * r30778 /branches/utbs/_main.cfg: 20081116 20:36:44 convert UTBS to a "non mainline" campaign (for the moment) with working translations 20081116 20:36:44 should be ready for upload to the addon server... 20081116 20:36:44 Fendrin: please check! 20081116 20:36:51 (the spaces in the key names, that is) 20081116 20:36:59 ivanovic * r30777 /trunk/ (configure.ac po/CMakeLists.txt po/Makefile.am): step 3 of moving utbs out of mainline 20081116 20:37:01 ivanovic * r30776 / (branches/utbs/translations/ trunk/po/wesnoth-utbs/): move translations of utbs to the branches/ dir 20081116 20:37:17 zookeeper: good question... maybe spaces are allowed in syntax of WML ? 20081116 20:37:58 hey all 20081116 20:38:04 yo boucman 20081116 20:38:19 Sapient, i doubt that, at least i've often had errors when i've accidentally tried to do that with regular variables...i think 20081116 20:39:04 Ivanovic: so UTBS war un-mainlined... interesting. 20081116 20:42:09 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-151-96.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:42:42 -!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 20081116 20:49:27 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@bas2-ottawa10-1279281984.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:50:10 Ivanovic: my initial plan didn't do anything, but I have another idea, and a hacky plan that I think should work 20081116 20:50:55 crimson_penguin: Have you figurer out the reason why fonts don't work? 20081116 20:51:05 s/figurer/figured 20081116 20:51:44 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 20:51:50 loonycyborg: no, but I did just confirm that my hacky plan will be necessary to make it work AS WELL AS IT DOES NOW, but that means it won't make it any better :-/ 20081116 20:53:02 My current theory is that it can't find the fonts because CGFont is used which isn't affected by fontconfig calls. 20081116 20:53:11 that confirmation was interesting though; I confirmed that it does load .so files (and that was succeeding, but wouldn't if pango wasn't installed, and for me wouldn't work on ppc) 20081116 20:53:31 ah 20081116 20:53:47 But in this case it should have at least used some fallback font. 20081116 20:53:58 It does that on windows. 20081116 20:54:39 Yeah, so it seems it can't find any fonts anywhere 20081116 20:54:48 But I don't know where it looks :-/ 20081116 20:55:09 * crimson_penguin is sitting in a hallway 20081116 20:56:47 my plan is to disable tests to enable building of ppc .so files, and then to package those inside the .app, but since I can't convince ./configure to let me have a relative install path, I'll make the Obj-C make a symbolic- or if necessary hard- link from /tmp/something to inside the .app, on startup 20081116 20:58:20 ivanovic * r30775 / (branches/utbs/ trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/): 20081116 20:58:20 move UtbS out of mainline as discussed on the dev-ml 20081116 20:58:20 TODO: move translations over 20081116 20:58:48 that's the problem with negative attribute names... you can get really confusing combinations like [not]not_living="no" 20081116 20:59:05 -!- Sirp [n=user@c-76-102-104-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 20:59:43 (currently the build fails because it can't build the tests, because for the tests it doesn't listen to my config settings that make the rest of the build work) 20081116 20:59:48 hi Sirp 20081116 21:01:50 crimson_penguin: What does fail? pango? 20081116 21:02:00 yeah, building pango 20081116 21:02:23 Sirp, filed the bug 20081116 21:02:28 it's a bit of a mess because I'm trying to get it to link to libraries which aren't installed, while there are ones that are installed too... 20081116 21:02:49 have to go now 20081116 21:03:11 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@bas2-ottawa10-1279281984.dsl.bell.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081116 21:10:49 zookeeper: cool; what's the bug id? 20081116 21:19:25 Sirp, #12606 20081116 21:24:28 wesbot: bug 12606 20081116 21:24:28 Bug #12606 Assigned to: David White Status: None Priority: 7 - High 20081116 21:24:31 Summary: AI freeze 20081116 21:24:34 Original submission: Load the attached save and end the turn. The thugs should 20081116 21:24:37 shuffle around a bit, and then the game should freeze, probably because of the 20081116 21:24:40 URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?12606 20081116 21:24:42 Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=5017 20081116 21:27:58 -!- maxy [n=maxy@80-219-1-12.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 20081116 21:28:24 ah, new build available, i'll test on that too.. 20081116 21:32:56 (yes, still freezes on r30777) 20081116 21:35:23 -!- me [n=me@athedsl-4507520.home.otenet.gr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 21:35:28 -!- me is now known as kalenzz 20081116 21:36:57 -!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-71-59-35-203.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 20081116 21:39:55 -!- governor [n=governor@74.12.189.30] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 21:45:33 -!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 21:49:34 Espreon: moved utbs to branches/utbs 20081116 21:50:22 Ivanovic: Thank you. 20081116 21:51:13 Espreon: once you talked to fendrin about adding it to the addon server, you should ping torangan (david YOU_KNOWWHAT_HERE torangan.de) to have it added nicely in wescamp 20081116 21:51:46 All right. 20081116 21:52:13 I shall do that. 20081116 22:07:19 -!- kalenzz [n=me@athedsl-4507520.home.otenet.gr] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20081116 22:16:23 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 22:27:36 -!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 22:31:49 -!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 22:39:17 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-151-96.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 22:42:47 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 22:45:53 -!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 22:47:01 -!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 22:48:22 -!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@24-177-36-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 22:57:15 wesbot: seen mordante 20081116 22:57:15 boucman: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 1d 2h ago. 1d 2h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]" 20081116 22:58:42 -!- miq_ [n=miq@krlh-5d83a319.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 23:07:26 -!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.217] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 23:09:30 I tried to work on the problem in the car on the way back, but I started to get car sick, so I stopped 20081116 23:10:32 -!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe11fa00-51.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20081116 23:16:18 -!- miq [n=miq@krlh-5d854ba3.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081116 23:19:57 crimson_penguin: Try editing data/hardwired/fonts.cfg 20081116 23:20:23 I think I tried the same thing as someone else, and deleted it altogether, and it still worked 20081116 23:20:23 Change DejaVuSans.ttf to something that makes sense to CGFont. 20081116 23:21:05 Edit the one in data/hardwired, not in data/core 20081116 23:21:49 ah, right 20081116 23:22:23 What would make sense to CGFont? 20081116 23:23:22 Name of a font installed on your system. 20081116 23:23:55 Ok 20081116 23:26:19 loonycyborg: that changed to that font for the SDL_ttf stuff, but no change for Pango 20081116 23:26:38 oh! just a second though 20081116 23:27:50 loonycyborg: WIN! 20081116 23:28:04 I've got Verdana working :D 20081116 23:31:12 Then you'll just need to install dejavu font as a system font. 20081116 23:34:33 plus the asian fonts for those langs... 20081116 23:34:46 ;) 20081116 23:35:19 crimson_penguin: so you got some progress and we got a mac binary soon? 20081116 23:35:19 -!- boucman [n=rosen@109.83.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 23:36:40 Ivanovic: Sooon, I do still have to make Pango's .so files UBs, and figure out how to package the .so's with the .app (which I've got a plan for, but it will be a little bit involved) 20081116 23:37:41 Strangely, it's still saying this: (process:15143): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "DejaVuSans.ttf,sazanami-gothic.ttf,wqy-zenhei-gb2312.ttf Bold Not-Rotated 18", falling back to "Sans Bold Not-Rotated 18", expect ugly output. 20081116 23:38:09 And this (and the same but 12 instead of 14): (process:15143): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "DejaVuSans.ttf,sazanami-gothic.ttf,wqy-zenhei-gb2312.ttf Not-Rotated 14", falling back to "Sans Not-Rotated 14", expect ugly output. 20081116 23:39:00 Perhaps it's caused by data/core/fonts.cfg.. 20081116 23:39:43 I also had some issues, and installing the other two fonts fixed some of them (for instance, the Cancel button having no content) 20081116 23:39:57 But I've still got ")Arabic)" 20081116 23:40:10 Same for Hebrew 20081116 23:46:50 -!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20081116 23:48:03 -!- Blueblaze [n=Blueblaz@c-98-196-208-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 20081116 23:55:07 -!- miq_ [n=miq@krlh-5d83a319.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081116 23:55:13 -!- PK0 [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"] 20081116 23:58:22 -!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.247.220] has quit ["Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"] 20081116 23:59:05 -!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.247.220] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Mon Nov 17 00:00:50 2008