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I've been bored. Other than that, fine. You? 20081122 08:23:01 ah okay, I'm doing great 20081122 08:23:12 I've been playing my guitar and so forth, that's about it :P 20081122 08:23:17 Good. :) 20081122 08:23:34 Acoustic guitar? 20081122 08:24:03 Classical 20081122 08:24:25 What's the difference? 20081122 08:24:45 I do not know too much about the instrument. 20081122 08:24:52 Biggest difference is that classical guitars use nylon for strings, as acoustic guitars use steel for strings 20081122 08:24:59 Then I could list many minor differences as well 20081122 08:25:10 Ah. 20081122 08:25:24 I /think/ I see. 20081122 08:25:28 Action (height of the string to the neck/fretboard/black thing that you press the string to) is generally higher on classical guitars than acoustic guitars 20081122 08:25:42 Classical guitars are smaller, and have smaller necks 20081122 08:25:53 and the neck of a classical guitar is wider 20081122 08:25:56 Ah. 20081122 08:26:01 so the neck is wider, but shorter 20081122 08:26:16 Anyway, I could go on for awhile, but I'll spare you the other details :P 20081122 08:26:22 So... different fingering patterns? 20081122 08:26:30 nah 20081122 08:26:47 Ah well. :) 20081122 08:26:47 It just has a different feel to it 20081122 08:26:52 It's like a small keyboard vs. a large keyboard 20081122 08:27:02 (Computer keyboard) 20081122 08:27:09 Both type the same way, but they're different sizes 20081122 08:27:11 Oh, I see. ... yeah, that makes sense. 20081122 08:27:38 Quite frankly, I lean towards classical keyboard - got a great one from the 80's 20081122 08:27:59 Yeah, it's almost like one of those keyboards vs. a laptop keyboard 20081122 08:28:10 Same "instrument" but they have completely different feels to them 20081122 08:28:29 Oh... well, no wonder you have a classical. 20081122 08:29:17 heh 20081122 08:29:25 I don't know anyone who plays guitar. But, I like the sound, very much. 20081122 08:29:45 The classical guitar though is generally used for classical music 20081122 08:30:02 Also, latin music uses it as well (flamenco for example) 20081122 08:30:32 Acoustic guitars are used though mainly in soft rock styles, country, bluegrass, etc.. 20081122 08:30:57 It sounds different (than acoustic)? Softer, or harder? 20081122 08:31:23 Well, acoustic guitars have a brighter and louder sound because they use steel strings 20081122 08:31:36 classical guitars have a softer, warmer, and deeper sound because they use nylon strings 20081122 08:31:52 nylon is a softer material than steel 20081122 08:31:56 I like the latin. It tends towards cherry and upbeat, I think. What little I have heard. 20081122 08:32:06 Heh 20081122 08:32:10 Hm, makes sense. 20081122 08:32:19 Not all latin music is cherry and upbeat 20081122 08:32:25 Much of it is very deep and serious 20081122 08:33:00 Youtube time... 20081122 08:33:07 oh 20081122 08:33:12 DDR, let me give you some youtube links 20081122 08:33:18 Oh, thanks! 20081122 08:33:51 DDR, I'll show you one of my favorite acoustic guitar solos 20081122 08:34:07 They might take a while, our new internet seems slow here. 20081122 08:34:12 I'll see if I can find a good one for classical guitar (mainly I have good cds of classical guitar, so that's not easily found on youtube) 20081122 08:34:29 DDR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhR04kmcSXU 20081122 08:34:37 This is one of the prettiest acoustic guitar solos I've ever heard 20081122 08:35:16 Thanks - I'll have a listen. 20081122 08:37:22 DDR, you guys own a clarinet right? 20081122 08:37:39 No one remembers how to play it. 20081122 08:37:44 I think so. 20081122 08:38:18 DDR, I'm in the market for a clarinet! :p 20081122 08:38:20 anyway 20081122 08:38:41 Want my old clarinet? :p 20081122 08:38:51 It's got broken cork everywhere 20081122 08:38:55 This one is kinda old. 20081122 08:39:25 The pads are eaten away, I think... Or, was that something else? Hm. 20081122 08:40:11 halifix, where do you live? 20081122 08:40:14 You would need to do maintenance when you got it. 20081122 08:42:01 Replacing cork is kinda nasty 20081122 08:42:04 but replacing pads isn't so hard 20081122 08:44:25 -!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@CPE-124-177-91-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20081122 08:45:09 I'll ask in the morning - it belongs to my mom, I'm not sure what she will say. 20081122 08:46:13 oh 20081122 08:46:18 DDR, nah no need to ask now 20081122 08:46:24 I actually might be getting a clarinet from someone 20081122 08:46:25 Great guitar music, Blueblaze. Thanks! It was beautiful to listen to, and leaves me with a good feeling. I like it. 20081122 08:46:31 Heh, OK. :) 20081122 08:46:37 That is good. 20081122 08:46:40 DDR, how long did it take to load? 20081122 08:46:56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0eTp7SoNU 20081122 08:47:02 This is another awesome video by the same guy 20081122 08:47:04 Well, 80% was loaded when I started. 20081122 08:47:05 it's more upbeat 20081122 08:47:14 I clicked on the link promptly. 20081122 08:47:27 Old net could load faster than the playrate though. 20081122 08:47:41 Which was great. 20081122 08:48:47 Grrr. Audacity will not record. Or play back. 20081122 08:49:01 I didn't touch anything... 20081122 08:49:20 how do I untouch it? 20081122 08:49:35 I was kidding about the clarinet :p 20081122 08:50:28 DDR, lol 20081122 08:51:03 Still in the market? 20081122 08:52:49 (And I can only have one audio application playing sound at a time... and firefox, for some reason. I blame entropy: the force that makes my system shut down piece by piece. :( ) 20081122 08:53:24 Classical Gas is not half-loaded yet... :( 20081122 09:01:06 Nice song. thanks! 20081122 09:01:12 yeah 20081122 09:01:18 DDR, how much longer will you be up? 20081122 09:02:15 I was thinking of another half-hour to hour, depending on what happens. 20081122 09:02:23 DDR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tJPKTnXNbY 20081122 09:02:27 This is a classical guitar piece 20081122 09:02:51 This piece in particular has latin roots, not all classical guitar pieces do but probably most do anyway :P 20081122 09:08:01 This piece is very smooth, not so upbeat, but it's a pleasant piece 20081122 09:08:04 One of my favorites in fact 20081122 09:08:17 -!- Unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081122 09:08:41 I shall listen. Soon. 20081122 09:16:34 * DDR is quietly contented. 20081122 09:16:43 lol 20081122 09:16:45 You listened? 20081122 09:16:46 I liked that song. It was nice. 20081122 09:16:58 Yeah, it's a very pretty melody 20081122 09:17:00 Yes, all gone now. 20081122 09:17:06 Quite. 20081122 09:17:31 I like it. It is peacefull. 20081122 09:20:08 oh 20081122 09:20:12 one more pleasant piece 20081122 09:20:41 guys ever met gonssal on the MP server? 20081122 09:21:07 DDR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbrJ7aoAh-8 20081122 09:21:13 halifix, fraid not that I can recall 20081122 09:21:39 I start loading. :) 20081122 09:21:53 wesbot: seen gonssal 20081122 09:21:53 Unnheulu: Sorry, I don't know of gonssal. 20081122 09:21:58 halifix: Nope 20081122 09:22:12 DDR, this guy is okay, but that's the best youtube video I can find 20081122 09:22:32 OK. 20081122 09:22:36 You probably though won't notice many/any mistakes though unless you play the piece yourself/know the guitar well 20081122 09:22:38 I'll take a listen. 20081122 09:22:52 hi Blueblaze 20081122 09:22:57 okay 20081122 09:23:00 I know it not, so it'll probably sound good. 20081122 09:23:13 He's a good player, but heavy on the calling out ppl for playing badly. 20081122 09:23:34 Even heavier than me. 20081122 09:26:30 Also, classical guitar o.@ 20081122 09:26:52 Don't see it much in classical music at all 20081122 09:28:55 Blueblaze: You play guitar? 20081122 09:28:59 nnot quiiite loaded yet... 20081122 09:29:27 wesbot: seen yonibear 20081122 09:29:27 Unnheulu: Sorry, I don't know of yonibear. 20081122 09:29:30 wesbot: seen yonibear_ 20081122 09:29:30 Unnheulu: Sorry, I don't know of yonibear_. 20081122 09:29:33 hmm 20081122 09:29:47 Blueblaze: Has someone called yonibear signed p on the forum? 20081122 09:31:22 -!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv4E5C802C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20081122 09:31:46 Unnheulu, you sure you don't mean Yogibear? 20081122 09:32:03 halifix, yeah because the piano basically kicked it out 20081122 09:32:03 erm 20081122 09:32:08 halifix, about 200 years ago 20081122 09:32:18 I know yogibear on the forum yeah 20081122 09:32:26 The guitar in all honesty is a simplistic piano 20081122 09:32:28 but someone called yonibear plays xmoto 20081122 09:32:45 He also reckons that he sometimes plays wesnoth 20081122 09:32:51 the name sounds familiar 20081122 09:33:39 -!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@CPE-124-177-91-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081122 09:37:37 Hm, ask. That is the only way you'll find out. 20081122 09:38:18 DDR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl0nwqNTZg&NR=1 20081122 09:38:29 DDR, have you seen Pirates of the Caribbean? 20081122 09:38:35 hes not onlilne atm 20081122 09:38:43 Yes, once a while ago. 20081122 09:38:50 Decent movie. 20081122 09:42:51 Meh 20081122 09:43:00 I listened to baroque orchestra today 20081122 09:43:10 That was good rendition. 20081122 09:43:10 That used actual baroque instruments 20081122 09:43:27 No guitars, just cellos and piano variations 20081122 09:43:32 Ooh, cool. 20081122 09:44:13 Apparently French and Italian styles in the Baroque era depended on different techiques, but I didn't notice any difference :( 20081122 09:47:12 halifix, well, the guitar isn't generally an orchestra instrument, and the guitar didn't come to be until after the Baroque period 20081122 09:47:24 The regular guitar that we know of, was around since the mid 1800s 20081122 09:50:14 DDR, anyway, anyway, there is so much beautiful guitar music out there 20081122 09:51:30 Yes... that can be said for almost anything, I think. 20081122 09:51:51 Somewhere, people are making something beautiful out of it. 20081122 09:52:27 It's a wonderful life. 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make the scenario end in victory or defeat for all. 20081122 22:45:47 so what are you doing in the die event? 20081122 22:46:16 I'm trying to kill all units in one area to prevent lag. 20081122 22:46:29 When I use fire_event=no, the scenario ends in victory for all. 20081122 22:46:39 When I use fire_event=yes, Wesnoth crashes. 20081122 22:46:50 The problem is, there's also another leader that comes out some turns later. 20081122 22:46:58 Defeating this leader is supposed to win you the game. 20081122 22:47:12 Either that, or outliving your human opponents. 20081122 22:48:31 -!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-130-76.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081122 22:52:02 Anyways, I'm working on a new scenario. 20081122 22:52:08 I wish I was a better mapmaker. 20081122 23:00:10 -!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20081122 23:09:24 Just out of curiosity, is there a way to make a unit fearless without the trait? 20081122 23:11:17 -!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-107-170.vinita.lt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081122 23:13:08 no. 20081122 23:14:11 i mean i'm no WML expert so there may be hacks to do it but the effect of the fearless trait is hardcoded. 20081122 23:17:36 Darn. 20081122 23:17:53 Well, can you create new events inside a [command] tag? 20081122 23:20:02 humh 20081122 23:20:38 [command] is just a meaningless container for action WML 20081122 23:20:59 you can put as many [command]s in an event as you want and do whatever you normally can in an event inside them 20081122 23:24:23 But can you put an [event] in a [command] tag? 20081122 23:24:44 if the [command] is inside another [event], yes. otherwise no, i thinl 20081122 23:24:45 think 20081122 23:24:52 Ah, thanks. 20081122 23:27:15 Is there any way to remove objects from a unit mid-game? 20081122 23:28:43 yeah...in 1.5 that's not as simple though 20081122 23:28:54 I have 1.4. 20081122 23:30:06 {CLEAR_VARIABLE stored_unit.modifications.object[1]} removes the second object from the unit 20081122 23:30:17 Wow, thanks. 20081122 23:30:23 i'm sure there's an example somewhere on the forums 20081122 23:30:40 (obviously add the store, finding out which object to remove and unstore..) 20081122 23:32:59 Well, the unit will only be able to be affected by one object at a time due to the conditions of my scenario. 20081122 23:33:35 well, it's easy then, just clear .modifications.object in that case 20081122 23:33:41 Thank you. 20081122 23:41:22 -!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081122 23:43:19 Hello, Ken_Oh. 20081122 23:43:39 What the... 20081122 23:43:56 It's saying load_game_failed, yet, I'm not loading a game, I'm starting a new one. 20081122 23:44:05 Attempt to deserialize an empty unit. 20081122 23:44:42 well, loading a game and starting one isn't really different. 20081122 23:45:10 i think that error means you unstore somthing that isn't a unit. 20081122 23:45:58 -!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wb582.w.pppool.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20081122 23:46:20 I'm not unstoring anything yet. 20081122 23:47:15 I'm storing all locations except for those in a certain radius, picking a random one from all those locations, then putting a unit on it. 20081122 23:50:11 -!- harryBer [n=harryBer@ppp85-141-172-213.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20081122 23:50:23 -!- lizard_r [n=MirandaM@Wb582.w.pppool.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081122 23:50:36 Well, to the forums! 20081122 23:54:10 -!- harry1 [n=harryBer@ppp85-141-174-203.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081122 23:59:26 -!- miq [n=miq@krlh-5d856ff1.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Sun Nov 23 00:00:05 2008