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20081212 00:34:42< Sapient> is the wiki down?
20081212 00:36:45< loonycyborg> Currently six Solitons work on fixing that :)
20081212 00:37:10< loonycyborg> At least running "users" command suggests so..
20081212 00:37:37 * Soliton is one of the non-working ones.
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20081212 01:02:49< Espreon> Wow... 17-7... I think I'll start using Troll Rocklobbers!
20081212 01:08:51< CIA-8> espreon * r31441 /trunk/data/core/units/trolls/Rocklobber.cfg: * Reduced Troll Rocklobber's sling strikes from 7 to 1.
20081212 01:08:52< shikadibot> Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31441
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20081212 01:25:23< Espreon> fendrin: Here?
20081212 01:25:50< CIA-8> espreon * r31442 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/images/units/trolls/: * Removed empty directory.
20081212 01:25:51< shikadibot> Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31442
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20081212 02:43:09< [Relic]> Hello :)
20081212 02:43:40< Sapient> hey there [Relic]
20081212 02:43:46< [Relic]> :)
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20081212 04:06:33< Shadow_Master_> I have discovered the fix for yogi's stuff
20081212 04:06:37< Shadow_Master_> did he beat me to it or not?
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20081212 05:32:17< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31443 /branches/1.4/src/gamestatus.cpp: 
20081212 05:32:17< CIA-8> Make start-of-scenario saved games work again (fix a regression from r31213).
20081212 05:32:17< CIA-8> Bonus: they are also properly labelled in load-game now if your save_index is clean.
20081212 05:32:17< CIA-8> I'll soon dcommit my stuff to trunk and fix this problem there amongst other things, please bear with my lack of stable (own) Internet connection...
20081212 05:32:17< shikadibot> Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31443
20081212 05:32:23< Shadow_Master> good ... morning, night? 
20081212 05:32:37< Shadow_Master> AI0867: please remove that feature off shikadibot , it makes it annoying when reading the logs
20081212 05:32:41< Shadow_Master> shikadibot: part
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20081212 05:34:21< Shadow_Master> and it'll be even more annoying during mass dcommits :-)
20081212 05:34:28< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31444 /trunk/src/ (CMakeLists.txt Makefile.am SConscript): 
20081212 05:34:28< CIA-8> Make src/version.cpp [version.o] part of libwesnoth-core.a instead of
20081212 05:34:28< CIA-8> limiting it to the game image.
20081212 05:40:22< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31445 /trunk/src/ (4 files): 
20081212 05:40:22< CIA-8> Getting rid (per Mordante's request) of game_events::game_version
20081212 05:40:22< CIA-8> in favour of version_info.
20081212 05:40:39< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31446 /trunk/src/tests/test_version.cpp: 
20081212 05:40:39< CIA-8> Add a check for outcomes of comparison between
20081212 05:40:39< CIA-8> "insane" version_info objects to the version_info
20081212 05:40:39< CIA-8> unit test.
20081212 05:41:56< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31447 /trunk/src/tests/test_version.cpp: 
20081212 05:41:56< CIA-8> Reorganized the version_info "insanity test" code
20081212 05:41:56< CIA-8> so that its outcome is displayed even on success when
20081212 05:41:56< CIA-8> using 'BOOST_TEST_LOG_LEVEL=all <path>/test'.
20081212 05:42:32< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31448 /trunk/src/version.cpp: 
20081212 05:42:32< CIA-8> In version_info's string constructor, initialize the numbers vector
20081212 05:42:32< CIA-8> early enough to catch any border cases without getting to states that
20081212 05:42:32< CIA-8> undefine the class' behavior.
20081212 05:43:22< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31449 /trunk/src/tests/test_version.cpp: 
20081212 05:43:22< CIA-8> In the version_info unit test, add right/left zero checks
20081212 05:43:22< CIA-8> for verifying behavior on equivalent/similar version numbers.
20081212 05:43:39< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31450 /trunk/src/version.hpp: Doxygen comment added for child struct.
20081212 05:44:19< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31451 /trunk/src/about.cpp: Doxygen comment fix.
20081212 05:44:42< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31452 /trunk/data/core/units/humans/Mage_Arch.cfg: Negate Arch Magi's idle animation for female variants.
20081212 05:45:28< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31453 /trunk/src/replay_controller.cpp: Add a clarification comment.
20081212 05:47:53< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31454 /trunk/ (RELEASE_NOTES changelog players_changelog src/gamestatus.cpp): Start-of-scenario saves are recognized again when compressed.
20081212 05:48:19< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31455 /trunk/src/gamestatus.cpp: Make start-of-scenario saved games work again (fix a regression from r31407).
20081212 05:49:36< Shadow_Master> \o/
20081212 05:50:22< Shadow_Master> nice to see that our sys admins managed to get everything back up.
20081212 05:50:34< Shadow_Master> er... except the wiki :)
20081212 06:06:51< Espreon> Hmmm... more borked stuff...
20081212 06:12:16< Espreon> esr: Here?
20081212 06:16:28< Shadow_Master> I hope it's not mine...
20081212 06:17:56< Espreon> Fortunately, IFtU is not borked (AFAIK) if that is what you were thinking.
20081212 06:18:13< Shadow_Master> I meant in mainline.
20081212 06:18:22< Espreon> Ah.
20081212 06:18:24< Shadow_Master> this is #wesnoth-dev, right?
20081212 06:19:34< Espreon> Correct.
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20081212 08:36:03< mordante> morning
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20081212 08:51:58 * mordante gives Shadow_Master a cookie
20081212 08:54:04< CIA-8> mordante * r31456 /branches/1.4/src/gamestatus.cpp: Fix some formatting issues.
20081212 09:03:13< Rhonda> "<Invalid WML found> At difficulty level EASY, trying to recruit a: archer but no unit of that type (usage=) is available. Check the recruit and [ai] recruitment_pattern keys for team 'Urza Nalmath' against the usage key of theunits in question! Removing invalid recruitment_pattern entry and continuing..."
20081212 09:03:50< Rhonda> Two bugs actually, one that the message pops up, and a missing space in "theunits", or is that a keyword here?
20081212 09:04:06< Rhonda> Second scenario of The South Guard that is.
20081212 09:04:16< Rhonda> v1.5.6
20081212 09:04:54 * Rhonda . o O ( is continuing playing cheating as there are less units recruited by Urza Nalmath? )
20081212 09:05:56< mordante> grep theunit on trunk didn't find a thing, so I assume it's fixed
20081212 09:07:05< mordante> and I think esr loves those AI errors
20081212 09:14:14< CIA-8> mordante * r31457 /trunk/src/tests/test_version.cpp: Remove an unused variable.
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20081212 09:25:58< zookeeper> huh, good catch espreon. the weird thing is that i was specifically trying to change that back myself before committing...guess i must have pressed undo one too many times or something ;)
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20081212 09:32:32< zookeeper> Rhonda, that can't be right. on EASY he has recruit=Ruffian,Thief,Footpad and recruitment_pattern=fighter,fighter,scout,fighter
20081212 09:32:47< zookeeper> oh, 1.5.6...maybe it was fixed since.
20081212 09:42:54< Ivanovic> moin
20081212 09:43:49< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20081212 10:40:44< Rhonda> zookeeper: Yes, 1.5.6, last release
20081212 10:41:06< Rhonda> I don't have the diskspace to run svn ...
20081212 10:42:49< fabi> hi
20081212 10:43:01< mordante> hi fabi 
20081212 10:43:19< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31458 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-aoi/cs.po wesnoth-lib/cs.po): updated Czech translation
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20081212 12:28:20< zookeeper> "You don't have permission to access /files/hidden/win/ on this server."
20081212 12:29:06< loonycyborg> Yep. Soliton will have to fix permissions there.
20081212 12:29:26 * loonycyborg doesn't have access for that.
20081212 12:35:24< CIA-8> loonycyborg * r31459 /trunk/src/poolalloc.c: Fixed linker errors in debug builds with gcc 4.3.2
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20081212 13:09:28< Rhonda> loonycyborg: What permissions, where?
20081212 13:13:39< loonycyborg> Rhonda: /var/www/html/files
20081212 13:13:59< loonycyborg> Looks like bogus GIDs are used all over the place..
20081212 13:14:38< Rhonda> Fixed that
20081212 13:15:02< Rhonda> And please use /srv/www as canonical place, /var/www is just a symlink dump now
20081212 13:15:47< loonycyborg> cd: /srv/www/html/files/hidden/win: No such file or directory
20081212 13:16:07< loonycyborg> cd /srv/www/html/files/hidden
20081212 13:16:12< loonycyborg> ls
20081212 13:16:19< loonycyborg> ls: cannot open directory .: Permission denied
20081212 13:17:00< Rhonda> Yes. But that was like that before
20081212 13:17:25< loonycyborg> I could cd to hidden/win before.
20081212 13:17:36< Rhonda> That's a different thing
20081212 13:17:46< Rhonda> But files hadn't read permission for the directory.
20081212 13:17:58< Rhonda> The win directory might be missing because of the harddisk crash.
20081212 13:18:06< Rhonda> Do you have a filename that was in there?
20081212 13:18:27< loonycyborg> wesnoth.exe was there.
20081212 13:18:39< loonycyborg> Actually, that was symlink
20081212 13:19:36< Rhonda> Sorry, no such directory in the olddrive/lost+found  :/
20081212 13:22:22< loonycyborg> Anyway, ls -al /srv/www/html/files shows that some files have group "1014"
20081212 13:22:48< Rhonda> Where?
20081212 13:22:57< Rhonda> I don't think so
20081212 13:23:02< loonycyborg> Looks like it was just fixed :)
20081212 13:23:17< Rhonda> Not just. Some minutes before. :)
20081212 13:23:31< Rhonda> It definitely was already when you typed that. :)
20081212 13:24:01 * loonycyborg is too lazy to retype the command :)
20081212 13:24:28< Rhonda> Then use the history, like every normal shell user. :)
20081212 13:26:44< mordante> :)
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20081212 14:13:38< Sirp> so what happened to our server and whose fault is it?
20081212 14:14:22< loonycyborg> Hard Disk's :)
20081212 14:14:51< Sirp> the hard disks died?
20081212 14:15:23< loonycyborg> No. It had enough bad blocks to cause a fsck.
20081212 14:15:55< loonycyborg> So some needed for boot files got fscked.
20081212 14:19:11< Sirp> so is that a fault of hard disks, or software?
20081212 14:19:23< Sirp> i.e. should I yell at OLM, or is it our fault?
20081212 14:19:57< loonycyborg> Basically it's OLM's fault. But don't yell at them :)
20081212 14:20:50< loonycyborg> Since they already replaced the hard drive while keeping access to old hard drive to make restoring stuff easier.
20081212 14:21:23< Sirp> ahhh okay
20081212 14:21:26< Sirp> that's good then. :)
20081212 14:21:29< BenUrban> no backup?
20081212 14:22:10< Sirp> well, I think that getting access to the current live data would be better than a backup which would be stale by some amount.
20081212 14:22:25< loonycyborg> There is backup. But not everything is backed up.
20081212 14:22:30< BenUrban> ah
20081212 14:22:42< BenUrban> had me worried for a moment there :P
20081212 14:26:18< Ivanovic> that is: backups of the wiki seem to have not worked as expected
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20081212 14:45:36< zookeeper> is there any particular reason why automatic backups like that aren't made by...uh, mirroring the entire contents of the drives or whatever, so everything was always automatically backupped?
20081212 14:46:30< mordante> I guess the problem is the backups are made, but not tested ;-)
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20081212 14:53:46< Ivanovic> jupp
20081212 14:54:07< zookeeper> right
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20081212 15:03:20< cib0> hez
20081212 15:03:28< cib0> *hey
20081212 15:04:07< cib0> does anyone know whether there are still serious bugs with MP campaigns?
20081212 15:04:31< boucman> cib0: you might want to ask mythological about that
20081212 15:04:47< boucman> he did the only MP campaign I heard of, so he would likely know most about that
20081212 15:05:49< mordante> cib0 since nobody fixed it, I did some work on it but shortly afterwards it got broken again
20081212 15:06:04< mordante> so I don't want to work on it until I have time to really work on it
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20081212 15:08:51< cib0> i see
20081212 15:09:31< boucman> cib0: there is half done feature if you want to work on something :)
20081212 15:09:50< boucman> wesbot: patch 1032
20081212 15:09:51< wesbot> Patch #1032  Assigned to: Jérémy Rosen <boucman>  Status: Postponed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20081212 15:09:54< wesbot> Summary: [endlevel][result] tag to allow different scenario results for different sides
20081212 15:09:57< wesbot> Original submission: Implements a [result] tag within [endlevel] tags that all
20081212 15:10:00< wesbot> ows specific sides to be issued specific victory/defeat messages.
20081212 15:10:02< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/patch/?1032
20081212 15:10:05< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/patch/download.php?file_id=4149
20081212 15:21:01< cib0> hm
20081212 15:21:15< cib0> i might look into it
20081212 15:21:44< cib0> though i'm quite busy with other stuff these times
20081212 15:22:00< boucman> k
20081212 15:22:04< boucman> just trying :P
20081212 15:23:07< cib0> good thing is, now that im on debian i can build boost without great trouble
20081212 15:25:27< mordante> no need to build boost on debian ;-)
20081212 15:26:30< cib0> yeah, true
20081212 15:27:11< Ivanovic> okay, i'll work on destroying the forums now by updating to a more recent phpbb
20081212 15:27:23< Ivanovic> (and with it getting back some missing files and such)
20081212 15:27:28< cib0> do you know anyone who managed to cross-compile boost for win32 on GNU/Linux and might help a newb like me out?
20081212 15:28:27 * mordante thinks there are faster and more efficient ways to destroy the forum ;-)
20081212 15:29:47< loonycyborg> cib0: I managed to compile boost on windows natively(with gcc)
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20081212 15:31:36< cib0> hey sapient
20081212 15:31:43< Sapient> yo CIB
20081212 15:32:13< cib0> uh, natively on windows with gcc? is that mingw?
20081212 15:32:30< loonycyborg> Yes.
20081212 15:32:34< Sapient> that's what I use, yeah
20081212 15:33:12< cib0> i can only run a virtual machine though, i'd prefer to compile directly on debian
20081212 15:33:32< cib0> *build
20081212 15:33:46< loonycyborg> If you run debian, then why do you need mingw-compiled boost?
20081212 15:34:07< cib0> in order to distribute win32 binaries
20081212 15:34:44< loonycyborg> http://files.openomy.com/public/loonycyborg/boost-mingw-1_36.zip
20081212 15:35:11< cib0> nice, thanks alot
20081212 15:35:42 * loonycyborg prefers to link against boost statically when building windows releases.
20081212 15:36:42 * Ivanovic hopes this works as expected...
20081212 15:36:53< Ivanovic> have we installed any mods for the forums since august?
20081212 15:37:42< loonycyborg> "Fatal error: Call to undefined function set_user_message_limit() in /srv/www/html/forum/includes/ucp/ucp_pm.php on line 163" :(((
20081212 15:37:54< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: i am not done yet...
20081212 15:38:14< loonycyborg> Ah.
20081212 15:38:38< Ivanovic> even the admin control panel is not completely working so far
20081212 15:41:30< cib0> hm?
20081212 15:42:21< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: all pages should be up again, *BUT* i will now try to upgrade the forum to phpbb 3.0.3
20081212 15:43:37< loonycyborg> PM works.
20081212 15:44:58< loonycyborg> Did anyone else got PM from cobra asking about why PM doesn't work?
20081212 15:45:13< Soliton> hehe.
20081212 15:45:23< mordante> brilliant :-)
20081212 15:45:58< loonycyborg> I answered him before PM was fixed stating that I can't read his message because PM doesn't work :)
20081212 15:46:15< mordante> :-)
20081212 15:50:44< loonycyborg> Soliton: Care to fix /srv/www/html/files/hidden/win?
20081212 15:52:14< Soliton> i thought it was fixed.
20081212 15:52:27< loonycyborg> cd: /srv/www/html/files/hidden/win: No such file or directory
20081212 15:52:54< Sapient> that is very well hidden indeed :)
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20081212 15:53:22< loonycyborg> More safe than truecrypt :)
20081212 15:54:25< cib0> i thought you need an already built library, even when linking statically
20081212 15:54:28< Soliton> the directory is gone then?
20081212 15:54:33< loonycyborg> I just fixed it myself :)
20081212 15:55:09< loonycyborg> Files group can write to and execute to hidden, but not read it.
20081212 15:55:30< loonycyborg> So I can create a dir there :)
20081212 15:57:23< loonycyborg> Now it works: http://www.wesnoth.org/files/hidden/win/
20081212 15:57:58< loonycyborg> That dir was lost in fsck
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20081212 16:16:34< Ivanovic> okay, looks like i really broke the forums
20081212 16:16:36< Ivanovic> ARGH!
20081212 16:20:03< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Perhaps you'll turn your attention to wiki? There's no way to break it even more :)
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20081212 16:37:19< Soliton> zookeeper: what's the id in terrains for? why do several terrains have the same id?
20081212 16:39:49< zookeeper> Soliton, hmm, i'm not sure actually
20081212 16:40:30< zookeeper> i don't know whether or where the id is used by the game
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20081212 16:46:50< Ivanovic> okay, the board should be back up
20081212 16:46:58< Ivanovic> that is: it is still at phpbb 3.0.2
20081212 16:47:13< Ivanovic> someone really knowing what he does will have to handle the migration over to 3.0.3
20081212 16:47:18< boucman> indeed it is
20081212 16:47:40< crimson_penguin> anyone know off hand if the Mac 1.4.6 uses ~/Library/Preferences/Wesnoth or Wesnoth_1.4?
20081212 16:48:14< Ivanovic> no idea
20081212 16:52:26< Ivanovic> Rhonda: what have you restored regarding the wiki?
20081212 16:52:48< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: so um... I haven't touched Python yet
20081212 16:53:00< crimson_penguin> and I guess only 10.5 has Python 1.5 or something?
20081212 16:53:05< BenUrban> crimson_penguin: it's Wesnoth
20081212 16:53:23< BenUrban> 10.5 comes with python 2.5, but it can be obtained for 10.4
20081212 16:53:33< BenUrban> 10.4 comes with 2.3
20081212 16:53:41< crimson_penguin> ok, I guess I better use Wesnoth too then
20081212 16:53:51< crimson_penguin> and I guess Wesnoth requires 1.5?
20081212 16:54:18 * BenUrban wouldn't know
20081212 16:56:24< Ivanovic> 1.4 is min IIRC
20081212 16:57:48< crimson_penguin> 1.4 or 2.4?
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20081212 16:59:44< loonycyborg> crimson_penguin: 2.4
20081212 16:59:53< crimson_penguin> :-/
20081212 17:00:02< crimson_penguin> so uhh, how necessary is having pything? :)
20081212 17:00:55< loonycyborg> Having python in 1.4 is somewhat more important than having it in 1.5 :)
20081212 17:02:10< crimson_penguin> Hmmm
20081212 17:03:00< crimson_penguin> If it's just a normal library that doesn't depend on external data it'd be fine, but I get the impression that's not the case
20081212 17:04:06< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: there is a xcode framework for it
20081212 17:04:19< Ivanovic> and the "original" 1.4.0 packager was just shiping this in the binary
20081212 17:04:43< loonycyborg> On windows you just take Dlls and Lib dirs from python distribution and place them in installation dir.
20081212 17:04:49< crimson_penguin> Hmm
20081212 17:05:26 * loonycyborg hopes that python framework includes standard library.
20081212 17:06:06< Ivanovic> Rhonda, Soliton: so what is broken regarding the wiki? you said something about a table not being copied, but the tables for wiki seem to be all there
20081212 17:06:43< Ivanovic> Rhonda: have you just copied over the content of some folder to the new location?
20081212 17:06:52< loonycyborg> Then why does this happen? http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Main_Page
20081212 17:06:58< Ivanovic> if yes, from which one, old_drive/ or backup?
20081212 17:07:00< crimson_penguin> Python.framework = 205MB
20081212 17:07:13< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: hey, relax, i know that it is broken, i am investigating why
20081212 17:07:27< Ivanovic> Rhonda: my current asumption is that the user for the wiki is simply not existing
20081212 17:07:41< Soliton> Ivanovic: i've done nothing regarding the wiki, no idea.
20081212 17:08:02< Ivanovic> $wgDBuser           = "wiki";
20081212 17:08:21< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Why do you think I'm not relaxed? I didn't use any :-C or >:-( smilies :)
20081212 17:09:36< loonycyborg> So there is wiki.mw_page_restrictions table in the db?
20081212 17:09:46< loonycyborg> Maybe it's looking in wrong db?
20081212 17:10:45< crimson_penguin> BenUrban: So, I take it you have Mac 1.4? :)
20081212 17:11:10< BenUrban> ok, i'm a bit confused here
20081212 17:11:21< crimson_penguin> Wesnoth 1.4, on Mac
20081212 17:11:24< BenUrban> mac os 10.4, python 2.4, wesnoth 1.4
20081212 17:11:27< BenUrban> ol
20081212 17:11:31< BenUrban> i have wesnoth 1.4
20081212 17:11:38< BenUrban> and python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5
20081212 17:11:43< BenUrban> and mac os 10.4
20081212 17:12:03< crimson_penguin> any chance you could zip up the Python framework Wesnoth comes with?
20081212 17:12:22 * crimson_penguin still has relatively slow internet, and ridiculously low available disk space
20081212 17:12:22 * BenUrban checks the size
20081212 17:12:33< BenUrban> crimson_penguin: you lie...
20081212 17:12:40< crimson_penguin> I do?
20081212 17:12:44< BenUrban>  /dev/disk0s2               93G    92G   119M   100%    /
20081212 17:13:03< BenUrban> and this is after a reboot
20081212 17:13:09< BenUrban> it was around 50 mb before :P
20081212 17:13:15 * crimson_penguin has to brb
20081212 17:13:35< crimson_penguin> well I've got 2.6GB available
20081212 17:13:43< BenUrban> heh, that's plenty
20081212 17:13:55 * BenUrban zips up Python.framework
20081212 17:14:04< BenUrban> 93.8 mb now :P
20081212 17:14:08< BenUrban> (available)
20081212 17:14:22< BenUrban> hmm
20081212 17:14:27 * BenUrban wonders where the zip went
20081212 17:14:38< BenUrban> hmm
20081212 17:14:46 * BenUrban wonders why it went onto his desktop
20081212 17:14:50< BenUrban> ah well
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20081212 17:17:13< crimson_penguin> BenUrban: wait, which Python framework is this? it shouldn't be that big
20081212 17:17:30< BenUrban> the framework is 25.16 mb ipped
20081212 17:17:33< BenUrban> *zipped
20081212 17:17:56< crimson_penguin> is that inside the .app?
20081212 17:17:59< BenUrban> yes
20081212 17:18:03< BenUrban> it appears to be 2.5
20081212 17:18:08< crimson_penguin> wow
20081212 17:18:15< crimson_penguin> well ok, I guess that's what I want then :)
20081212 17:18:30 * BenUrban notices a lack of file transfer activity
20081212 17:18:32< crimson_penguin> seems ridiculously big though; I mean, that's half the size of Wesnoth
20081212 17:19:52 * loonycyborg calculates
20081212 17:20:05< loonycyborg> That means that wesnoth is 50 Mb
20081212 17:20:20< BenUrban> crimson_penguin: did you accept the transfer?
20081212 17:20:31< crimson_penguin> ahh, sorry
20081212 17:20:55< crimson_penguin> this has a pretty terrible interface for DCC
20081212 17:21:07< crimson_penguin> it didn't notify me, and I have to go open some other window to find it and accept
20081212 17:21:12< BenUrban> ah
20081212 17:21:48< crimson_penguin> I don't think it's gonna work :-/ probably firewall issues
20081212 17:21:54< crimson_penguin> I did accept now
20081212 17:21:58< BenUrban> :(
20081212 17:22:06 * BenUrban will try one more time, just in case
20081212 17:22:35< BenUrban> working?
20081212 17:22:43< crimson_penguin> for some reason it told me that time
20081212 17:22:48< Ivanovic> hmm, *strange*
20081212 17:22:50< crimson_penguin> not yet
20081212 17:22:56< BenUrban> :/
20081212 17:23:07< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: I meant the uncompressed size
20081212 17:23:24< crimson_penguin> although, I guess I was comparing uncompressed Python to compressed Wesnoth
20081212 17:23:25< loonycyborg> oh
20081212 17:23:56< crimson_penguin> BenUrban: I'll pm you FTP details for my computer?
20081212 17:24:04< BenUrban> ok, i guess
20081212 17:25:04< crimson_penguin> (let me know if you don't know how to use that)
20081212 17:25:42< Ivanovic> that is: in the database the user seems to exist just as it should
20081212 17:30:44< crimson_penguin> BenUrban: should go at a max of about 40K/s
20081212 17:31:01< BenUrban> ah, no wonder it's so slow :D
20081212 17:31:07< BenUrban> hmm
20081212 17:31:12< BenUrban> i'm only getting 34
20081212 17:31:34< crimson_penguin> I think FTP can be not so efficient sometimes
20081212 17:31:51< crimson_penguin> I don't have dialup anymore, but I don't really have highspeed either :P
20081212 17:33:50< Soliton> loonycyborg: how do i compile wesnothd with mysql support now?
20081212 17:36:39< Soliton> ok, guess like before.. forum_user_handler=1 must have gotten lost somewhere.
20081212 17:38:56< BenUrban> finished...
20081212 17:38:57 * BenUrban put it in /Users/u/Desktop
20081212 17:39:06< crimson_penguin> yay, thanks!
20081212 17:39:16< BenUrban> yw
20081212 17:42:23 * crimson_penguin stole it from u
20081212 17:42:32 * crimson_penguin is actually ben
20081212 17:42:43 * crimson_penguin will brb again
20081212 17:42:49< BenUrban> yes, but the ftp url you gave me was for u
20081212 17:51:26< Ivanovic> Rhonda: if mysql always needs the .frm, .MYD and .MYI files per table, then "mw_page_restrictions" and "mw_redirect" are broken
20081212 17:51:33< Ivanovic> as in there only the .frm file exists
20081212 17:52:15< Ivanovic> Rhonda: do you think it is possible to restore an older version of those two tables from the backup we got from moving over to olm, or do you think this will screw up badly
20081212 17:55:07< Patterner> I accidently 'won' TheSouthGuard::PebblesInTheFlood...
20081212 17:58:24< zookeeper> kinda hard to lose.
20081212 17:58:34< zookeeper> or what do you mean?
20081212 18:00:47< crimson_penguin> BenUrban: I know, just explaining why I stole it from u ;)
20081212 18:01:15< BenUrban> :)
20081212 18:01:18< Patterner> killed all baddies...
20081212 18:02:09< Patterner> now i'm at turn 320 and nothing happens.
20081212 18:03:12< zookeeper> oh.
20081212 18:03:16< zookeeper> what difficulty level?
20081212 18:03:35< loonycyborg> Hard? :)
20081212 18:05:31< crimson_penguin> it may be snow flake picture time again
20081212 18:06:19< Ivanovic> Rhonda: we got the file /home/wesnoth/dbdumps/wiki_after_meltdown_dump_8_08_2008.sql maybe we can restore the two tables from this one?
20081212 18:23:34< crimson_penguin> BenUrban: hmmmm, do you also have this framework in /Library/Frameworks?
20081212 18:23:53< BenUrban> yes
20081212 18:24:04< BenUrban> might be a slightly different version though
20081212 18:24:09< crimson_penguin> because as far as I can tell this one is meant to be installed there, not inside the .app
20081212 18:24:13< crimson_penguin> right
20081212 18:24:35< BenUrban> oh...
20081212 18:25:07< BenUrban> when i use py2app's project templates, it makes a python framework and puts it into my app
20081212 18:25:34< crimson_penguin> that'd probably work well
20081212 18:25:47< crimson_penguin> how big is that framework?
20081212 18:26:05< BenUrban> it varies depending on the extra packages insstalled
20081212 18:26:35< BenUrban> the one it puts inside the app only includes what the app needs, though
20081212 18:26:43< BenUrban> no more, but sometimes less :/
20081212 18:26:47< crimson_penguin> oh, hmm
20081212 18:27:14< BenUrban> on occasion, i've had to add missing stuff to the app in the build process
20081212 18:28:05< crimson_penguin> Python's installation on Mac is weird
20081212 18:28:07< BenUrban> i don't know how different it is when you're doing a regular app with embedded python, rather than a standalone python app...
20081212 18:28:33< BenUrban> but i think py2app has a template for an objc version of that as well
20081212 18:28:46< crimson_penguin> hmm
20081212 18:29:35< BenUrban> note that you may have to install the macpython distribution to get the templates
20081212 18:30:17< crimson_penguin> I mean, inside the .framework there's a bunch of stuff like in a standard PREFIX dir; lib, bin, include, man, share...
20081212 18:30:26< BenUrban> yeah
20081212 18:30:41< crimson_penguin> there's even a .app in there
20081212 18:31:15< BenUrban> check out what py2app does for an app i built awhile back (using python 2.5): http://svnc.ourceforge.net/
20081212 18:31:20< BenUrban> oops
20081212 18:31:29< BenUrban> http://svnc.sourceforge.net/
20081212 18:33:05< BenUrban> or, more recently, http://sourceforge.net/projects/forgery/
20081212 18:33:11< BenUrban> that's probably a better example
20081212 18:33:27< crimson_penguin> this one's only 5mb :)
20081212 18:33:33< crimson_penguin> hmm
20081212 18:33:52< crimson_penguin> why would that be better? it seems like it'd be more complex
20081212 18:34:39< BenUrban> i improved the build process between svnc and forgery
20081212 18:35:04< BenUrban> i'm not sure if forgery even used a separate shell script to do the build...
20081212 18:35:18< crimson_penguin> it's 4x as big! :P
20081212 18:35:33< BenUrban> http://forgery.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/forgery/forgery/build.sh?content-type=text%2Fplain
20081212 18:35:47< BenUrban> it contains wxpython as well
20081212 18:35:52< BenUrban> which is much bigger
20081212 18:37:07< crimson_penguin> what's wxpython?
20081212 18:37:40< crimson_penguin> well I'm looking at svnc, and it's interesting
20081212 18:37:52< BenUrban> it's the python bindings for the wx gui library
20081212 18:38:02< BenUrban> of course it also has to include wx itself, by necessity
20081212 18:38:14< crimson_penguin> right
20081212 18:38:18< BenUrban> that tends to make it big
20081212 18:38:33< crimson_penguin> svnc's Python is actually made to live in a .app :)
20081212 18:38:37< Ivanovic> with other words: it is not needed for wesnoth
20081212 18:38:38< Ivanovic> ;)
20081212 18:38:49< Ivanovic> okay, i am off for some hours
20081212 18:39:07< Ivanovic> i hope Rhonda pops in in the meantime (and has a look at the log)
20081212 18:39:09< crimson_penguin> and it also seems to put its Python stuff inside Resources, which makes sense
20081212 18:39:24< BenUrban> hmm
20081212 18:39:44< BenUrban> i think the python framework is put inside Frameworks, and some of the support files go in resources
20081212 18:39:51< crimson_penguin> yeah
20081212 18:39:56< BenUrban> btw forgery was made with a more recent py2pp than svnc
20081212 18:40:06< BenUrban> stuff got rearranged between those versions
20081212 18:40:33< crimson_penguin> fiine, I'll get Forgery too :P
20081212 18:40:59< BenUrban> :)
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20081212 18:51:14 * crimson_penguin wonders why he is so terribly tired
20081212 18:51:46< crimson_penguin> gah! Safari crashed again...
20081212 18:51:53< crimson_penguin> I think I better install that Safari update and restart
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20081212 19:09:44 * Rhonda pops on Ivanovic 
20081212 19:11:11< Rhonda> ... and I have no idea what olm is, sorry
20081212 19:14:48< mordante> olm is the hosting company of the server
20081212 19:16:00< Rhonda> The former company, I suspect?
20081212 19:16:05< Shadow_Master> the current.
20081212 19:16:43< Rhonda> ah. moving over _to_ olm. misread that. but then, it didn't ring any bell so ...
20081212 19:17:15< Rhonda> I don't think that I really want to restore from/with that dump file.
20081212 19:17:35< Rhonda> Especially since it now complains about the mw_page table, and that is rather essential data ...
20081212 19:17:43< Shadow_Master> mordante: ah, the 1.4 format issues. It was a hasty backport of my git commit :P 
20081212 19:18:21< Shadow_Master> long story behind
20081212 19:18:56< Rhonda> Ah, sweet. mw_page is only missing the .frm header ...
20081212 19:19:08< Rhonda> Now that actually might work  *tries*
20081212 19:22:46< Rhonda> seems to have worked out ...  *scratcheshead*
20081212 19:24:09< mordante> Shadow_Master more the removal of the double class and the extra comment
20081212 19:24:32< Rhonda> do *NOT* edit in the wiki yet
20081212 19:26:23< Shadow_Master> mordante: I was replying to your r31456. *tsk*
20081212 19:26:38< mordante> ah ok
20081212 19:29:07 * Shadow_Master cannot eat the cookie - he's sick after eating strawberries, and even had some awful nightmares with politicians.
20081212 19:29:56 * mordante takes the cookie back *crunch* *crunch* jummy
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20081212 19:35:03< loonycyborg> Politicians? Scary..
20081212 19:36:57< Shadow_Master> yep.
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20081212 19:40:16< Shadow_Master> loonybot: uhm, I'm not sure about that workaround
20081212 19:40:17< loonybot> error: Unexpected end of request.
20081212 19:40:34< Shadow_Master> loonycyborg: ^ 
20081212 19:43:10< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: Elaborate?
20081212 19:48:17< Rhonda> hmm, why doesn't the mw_page_restrictions restore don't do anything ...
20081212 19:49:59< Shadow_Master> well, 'm sure it would work for me, but it's defeating the purpose of the inline in the first place... 
20081212 19:50:40< Shadow_Master> à 
20081212 19:53:37< loonycyborg> Only for debug builds where inline has no effect anyway.
20081212 19:54:21< Rhonda> I ... have no idea where the table mw_page_restrictions does take its data from. Doesn't seem to be a myisam table.
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20081212 20:01:59< Rhonda> Ivanovic: Thanks, with that file I think I was able to get the wiki working again.
20081212 20:03:37< mordante> :-)
20081212 20:05:40< Rhonda> ... and whoever said something about wanting mediawiki somehow ... didn't look at all  %-)
20081212 20:06:08< CIA-8> shadowmaster * r31460 /branches/1.4/ (RELEASE_NOTES changelog players_changelog): Update changelogs and release notes.
20081212 20:06:35< loonycyborg> Rhonda: Should wiki really work now? I'm still getting database connection errors.
20081212 20:07:57< Rhonda> hmm
20081212 20:08:55< Rhonda> stupid thing
20081212 20:15:32< Rhonda> Shadow_Master: Can you test again?
20081212 20:19:11< loonycyborg> Rhonda: wiki works now.
20081212 20:19:57 * loonycyborg wonders whether Rhonda thinks that Shadow_Master is his sockpuppet
20081212 20:20:06< Rhonda> oh, was you
20081212 20:20:14< Rhonda> well, yellow on white isn't too well to read
20081212 20:21:16< Rhonda> whom his are you talking about anyway?
20081212 20:22:01< mordante> that should be loonycyborg of course ;-)
20081212 20:36:42< Ivanovic> re
20081212 20:36:50< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20081212 20:37:57 * Ivanovic hugs Rhonda
20081212 20:38:01< Ivanovic> thanks for making it work again
20081212 20:38:10< Ivanovic> so we should finally be back up to normal again?
20081212 20:38:31< Ivanovic> Rhonda: any idea why there is no more rsync on the website/ folder active as backup?
20081212 20:38:46< Ivanovic> and IIRC i once setup an rsync to mirror all of /home, too
20081212 20:39:03< Ivanovic> seems to have vanished, too (or i just planned to add this one and forgot doing it)
20081212 20:39:06< Rhonda> Didn't restore crontab entries, haven't looked into those.
20081212 20:39:13< Ivanovic> ah, okay
20081212 20:39:30< Ivanovic> i was just suprised that the folder /backup/website was so old
20081212 20:44:17< Ivanovic> Rhonda: do you mind if i set "force colors" in the bashrc of root?
20081212 20:44:26< Ivanovic> as well as the aliases ll and la?
20081212 20:44:51< Ivanovic> when doing some stuff today it was really lacking those...
20081212 20:46:33< Rhonda> Not really, no
20081212 20:48:19< Soliton> you could just use sudo and your own shell.
20081212 20:48:59< Ivanovic> Soliton: when doing lots of stuff where i require root privs, i really dislike using sudo (those extra 5chars needed really get tiring)
20081212 20:49:51< Soliton> yeah, ok.
20081212 20:50:31< Rhonda> Ivanovic: alias s sudo
20081212 20:50:37 * Rhonda ducks. :)
20081212 20:52:32< fendrin> Ivanovic: why not use sudo su?
20081212 20:53:42< Ivanovic> beside this: uhm, how to setup sudo to work as expected?
20081212 20:53:49< Ivanovic> (since my account has no password)
20081212 20:55:08< loonycyborg> why not sudo bash? :)
20081212 20:55:10< Ivanovic> okay, if i just need root for a single command i use su -c "command" anyway
20081212 20:55:23< loonycyborg> I do I
20081212 20:55:24< Ivanovic> and for the rest i use "su -"
20081212 20:55:34< loonycyborg> *So do I
20081212 20:55:47< Soliton> Ivanovic: you can use sudo now.
20081212 20:56:04< Ivanovic> ah, thanks
20081212 20:56:51< Rhonda> fendrin: sudo -s. But then, that works a bit against the sudo concept of using the privileges only for the things needed. One gets easily distracted.
20081212 20:57:31 * Rhonda uses sudo -s, keeps my home and my environment and stuff. :)
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20081212 20:58:28< Rhonda> Ivanovic: because of no password set there is the NOPASSWD: part of the sudoers file.
20081212 20:58:33 * fendrin 's ubuntu only needs the a
20081212 20:59:02< fendrin> sudo authentication once.
20081212 20:59:17< fendrin> But that's not true for my virtual server.
20081212 20:59:22 * mordante just uses su in a seperate terminal
20081212 20:59:48< fendrin> I wonder how this can be changed.
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20081212 21:02:28< Rhonda> fendrin: really once for the lifetime, or once every 15 minutes? The latter is the default.
20081212 21:04:21< Rhonda> fendrin: Take a look at /etc/sudoers and check for passwd_timeout entries.
20081212 21:04:37< Rhonda> ... or rather timestamp_timeout.
20081212 21:05:11< fendrin> Rhonda: Thank you
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20081212 21:10:22 * crimson_penguin just uses plain old sudo
20081212 21:10:54 * Rhonda dislikes using su directly for the need to share root password
20081212 21:11:21< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: you are on a mac, there basically is only sudo (unless you wade right into some rather hidden config to allow su -)
20081212 21:11:37< Rhonda> For the same reason why I dislike people putting their ssh key directly into the wesnoth user's authorized_keys file ...
20081212 21:12:12< Rhonda> But then, one can easily remove the key from that file, so that's not /that/ big deal
20081212 21:12:15< crimson_penguin> Works for me
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20081212 21:18:28< Rhonda> Ivanovic: There's problems with the redirects, it seems. gettext.w.o e.g.
20081212 21:20:36< Ivanovic> Rhonda: where are the svn repor stored?
20081212 21:20:55< Rhonda> The what?
20081212 21:21:54< Soliton> /usr/src/svn-checkouts/ as before.
20081212 21:22:30< Rhonda> ah, just the symlink was missing
20081212 21:28:00< Ivanovic> Rhonda: fixed
20081212 21:28:01< Ivanovic> jupp
20081212 21:28:40< Rhonda> What, fixed? I did already, what do you claim to have done now? :)
20081212 21:34:10< Ivanovic> :)
20081212 21:46:45< CIA-8> esr * r31461 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Correct a minor wmllint error.
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20081212 21:49:02< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20081212 22:12:22< Ivanovic> and now lets see if i am still able to release...
20081212 22:14:01< Soliton> probably should test the replay and start of scenario save stuff once.
20081212 22:15:56< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: another issue is the editor - I wasn't planning on making it; is that OK?
20081212 22:17:01< Ivanovic> IMO it would be nice to have a binary for it
20081212 22:17:09< Ivanovic> Soliton: yes, please test it, too
20081212 22:17:18< Ivanovic> i will test it in my normal procedure while uploading
20081212 22:17:28< Ivanovic> but more testers are welcome/needed
20081212 22:18:30< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31462 /branches/1.4/po/wesnoth/ (46 files): pot-update (preparing 1.4.7, no strings should have changed)
20081212 22:19:37< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31463 /branches/1.4/ (5 files in 2 dirs): version bump to 1.4.7
20081212 22:24:35< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: What about building it into Wesnoth, and having it so when you hold down something when you open it, it opens the editor instead of the game?
20081212 22:25:09< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: no idea
20081212 22:25:27< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: i just think it might be good to also offer the map editor to mac users (even for 1.4.x)
20081212 22:25:36< Ivanovic> since there are always some users who want to create maps
20081212 22:25:39< CIA-8> zookeeper * r31464 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/3_Searching_for_the_Runecrafter.cfg: Decreased the initial turn limit by 4 and added 10 turns upon finding Thursagan.
20081212 22:26:19-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.4.7, using r31464 | soft stringfreeze for most campaigns: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus | wesconf@FOSDEM2009 http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Fosdem2009 | 1.6 release plan: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6ReleasePlan | 64 bugs, 211 feature requests, 7 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/index.php
20081212 22:26:57< crimson_penguin> well I think it would be easiest for me to do it how I just said
20081212 22:27:27< Ivanovic> hmm, can you maybe just add it to the menu at the top?
20081212 22:27:27< crimson_penguin> that's what I did for SilverTree, and it was a lot more sketchy in that case, because it used QT for the editor
20081212 22:27:32< Ivanovic> this strange osx top menu thingie
20081212 22:27:52< crimson_penguin> wellll, not really; it needs to be done before the game/editor starts
20081212 22:28:34< Ivanovic> hey, i don't know how to do things best on osx
20081212 22:28:45< Ivanovic> i would personally just like to see the editor available somehow, too
20081212 22:29:07< crimson_penguin> SDL renames main to SDL_main, and then defines main itself, which calls SDL_main - so what I did, was defined main for the editor as editor_main, then on startup, in the Objective-C, decide which one to call
20081212 22:31:40< crimson_penguin> I'm still trying to get Python to work though :-/ I thought it should work, but then it was linking to 2.3, which seemed very weird... so I'm rebuilding
20081212 22:33:15< zookeeper> Shadow_Master, any idea if the auto-stored weapon info is documented somewhere?
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20081212 22:49:04< Soliton> Ivanovic: looks good to me.
20081212 22:53:31< Ivanovic> okay, my tests with the first scenario of two brothers looks good, too
20081212 22:53:48< Ivanovic> (that is: the start of scenario save of scenario 2 was working and the replay of scenario1 seems to work, too
20081212 22:55:47< Espreon> esr: Here?
20081212 22:56:01< esr> Yes.
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20081212 22:56:27< Espreon> esr: I noticed some flaws in Far North's forest layer.
20081212 22:56:30< Espreon> I will fix it.
20081212 22:56:41< Espreon> And potentially some other things that need to be fixed/
20081212 22:56:51< esr> OK.
20081212 22:57:25< Ivanovic> loonycyborg, Rhonda, crimson_penguin: 1.4.7 is ready
20081212 22:57:25< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31465 /tags/1.4.7/: 
20081212 22:57:25< CIA-8> tag 1.4.7, using rev 31464
20081212 22:57:25< CIA-8> this is probably the last 1.4.x release...
20081212 22:57:36< Ivanovic> that is the tarball is at files.wesnoth.org (as well as the xdelta)
20081212 22:57:39< crimson_penguin> ok
20081212 22:58:30< Rhonda> Today? WTH?
20081212 22:58:58< Rhonda> There is a new episode of The Big Bang Theory that I haven't watched yet. You can't push a new release now.
20081212 22:59:15< Espreon> esr: I think I will add some variations to the label brush.
20081212 23:00:50< crimson_penguin> Heh
20081212 23:02:20< Espreon> esr: When the Far North map was made, were the forests made with my brush?
20081212 23:02:34< Soliton> Ivanovic: replay of scenario 1 has always worked. but i also tested one of scenario 2. ;-)
20081212 23:02:58< esr> Espreon: No, that was before you built it.
20081212 23:03:13< Ivanovic> Soliton: ah, okay
20081212 23:03:33< Ivanovic> Rhonda: have you seen the new episodes from "the it crowd"?
20081212 23:03:43< Espreon> Well.. I notice so many flaws with the forests. Therefore, I will recreate them... OK?
20081212 23:03:54< Ivanovic> just this scene already tells a lot: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7nkxq_ich-bin-ein-nerd_fun
20081212 23:03:55< Rhonda> Ivanovic: If you mean the first three of season 3, yes.
20081212 23:04:29< Ivanovic> yes, i mean those
20081212 23:05:41< Rhonda> Is that scene directly from the episode 3?
20081212 23:06:08< Rhonda> I would propably have to jump through hoops to watch it, that's why I ask
20081212 23:06:17< crimson_penguin> well I got Python to... compile in, but it's not finding its libraries, and I'm confused about its error message: Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> \n Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
20081212 23:06:36< crimson_penguin> 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
20081212 23:06:58 * crimson_penguin considers setting PYTHONHOME to something
20081212 23:08:01< Rhonda> Ivanovic: Where is your mail with the news? :)
20081212 23:08:12< Ivanovic> Rhonda: i am currently adding it at sf.net
20081212 23:08:23< Ivanovic> Rhonda: and yes, the scene is directly from episode3
20081212 23:09:28< crimson_penguin> ok, setting it to . works, but then I have more errors - which isn't unexpected, since I knew it probably didn't have everything Wesnoth needs
20081212 23:09:32< crimson_penguin> anyway, have to go get firewood
20081212 23:09:42-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.7 releases, announcing soon... | soft stringfreeze for most campaigns: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus | wesconf@FOSDEM2009 http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Fosdem2009 | 1.6 release plan: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6ReleasePlan | 64 bugs, 211 feature requests, 7 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/inde
20081212 23:10:10< crimson_penguin> released*
20081212 23:10:24< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: by the way, I got the xdelta - instructions to use it?
20081212 23:10:27 * crimson_penguin goes poof
20081212 23:10:43-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.7 released, announcing soon... | soft stringfreeze for most campaigns: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus | wesconf@FOSDEM2009 http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Fosdem2009 | 1.6 release plan: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6ReleasePlan | 64 bugs, 211 feature requests, 7 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org/inde
20081212 23:11:01< Ivanovic> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Download_Xdeltas#Instructions
20081212 23:11:50< Rhonda> hmm, for using the xdelta I would need to still have the 1.4.6.bz2 ....
20081212 23:12:16< Espreon> esr: Sorry, but I have to wait till midnight to finish the rectification, as a demon (my dad) is on a rampage.
20081212 23:12:55< Espreon> Well... not that late... more like a few hours.
20081212 23:13:07< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: basically: install xdelta via fink and follow the instructions as for linux
20081212 23:13:08< Espreon> Good bye.
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20081212 23:13:47< Ivanovic> yes, the 1.1.* version of xdelta is perfect for your usage here
20081212 23:14:45< AI0867> are or aren't new transparent portraits allowed to extend off the top/side?
20081212 23:16:37< AI0867> I think I may have given out some bad info on that
20081212 23:17:20< Ivanovic> Rhonda: "release is out" mail sent
20081212 23:19:19< Ivanovic> esr, zookeeper, everybody else: are you done with the strings for trunk (that is: are things in shape for 1.6) and can I officially start the soft stringfreeze for everything now (beside the manual, a little will have to be done there)?
20081212 23:19:47< Ivanovic> yes, it was meant to start last weekend and i just felt like giving you some extra time...
20081212 23:20:14< mordante> I have no real plans to change strings
20081212 23:21:05-!- Soliton changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.4.7 released, announcing soon... | soft stringfreeze for most campaigns: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TextdomainStatus | wesconf@FOSDEM2009 http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Fosdem2009 | 1.6 release plan: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Wesnoth1.6ReleasePlan | 64 bugs, 211 feature requests, 7 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com, or for images: http://imagebin.org
20081212 23:22:06< zookeeper> i might need to add some carryover-related strings to core still.
20081212 23:22:47< zookeeper> and i ran into some trouble making the ai controller stuff, so either i need a bit more time for that or it can't get into 1.6.
20081212 23:24:13< zookeeper> also the reef description is still missing (i PM'd doc about it quite a while ago)
20081212 23:28:40< Ivanovic> ehm, can you not just add various of those strings and be done for the moment (gold carry over)
20081212 23:28:48< Ivanovic> those are rather general strings, right?
20081212 23:34:14< zookeeper> if i'd know what to add ;)
20081212 23:34:50< zookeeper> let me think for a sec
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20081212 23:40:07< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31466 /trunk/ (286 files in 9 dirs): 
20081212 23:40:07< CIA-8> pot-update (slowly preparing for the soft string freeze...)
20081212 23:40:07< CIA-8> updated doc files
20081212 23:42:02 * mordante loves pot-updates just after updating his checkouts :/
20081212 23:46:40< zookeeper> well, i'm not sure what strings i might need to add.
20081212 23:46:57< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: that's confusing; "xy:/usr/local/games# xdelta patch rc1to10-source.delta" - that doesn't include the xdelta command, and what's that # for?
20081212 23:47:41< loonycyborg> # == comment
20081212 23:48:23< loonycyborg> It's needed to make the command even more confusing :)
20081212 23:49:03< Soliton> it's supposed to be the prompt.
20081212 23:50:05< loonycyborg> If it's prompt, then by convention it must be root prompt.
20081212 23:50:09< mordante> what's now supposed to be confusing :-P
20081212 23:50:12< crimson_penguin> ohh... so that's supposed to be two commands then?
20081212 23:50:22< crimson_penguin> then what's the xy:?
20081212 23:51:00< loonycyborg> hostname :)
20081212 23:52:06< grzywacz> :D
20081212 23:53:18< crimson_penguin> ohhhhh, now I get it
20081212 23:53:22< crimson_penguin> that's horrible!
20081212 23:53:42< loonycyborg> Indeed! Root loging through ssh! :)
20081212 23:53:48< loonycyborg> *login
20081212 23:55:25< crimson_penguin> Hmm
20081212 23:55:32< crimson_penguin> I think I need to use untar on this
20081212 23:56:32< crimson_penguin> damn you Safari!
20081212 23:58:10< zookeeper> Ivanovic, anyways, i don't think i'd need to do any not-so-important string changes anymore
20081212 23:58:33< zookeeper> so if it's just a light freeze, we can add a couple of important strings even then if necessary...and the reef description
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