--- Log opened Tue Dec 16 00:00:15 2008
20081216 00:00:27< Soliton> nothing interesting in syslog.
20081216 00:00:46< Soliton> Dec 15 14:17:01 wesnoth /USR/SBIN/CRON[23905]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
20081216 00:00:49< Soliton> Dec 15 17:36:42 wesnoth syslogd 1.5.0#5: restart.
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20081216 00:02:30< mordante> night
20081216 00:02:33< Soliton> I was able to get the server online by copying the default kernel to the root of /dev/sda3.
20081216 00:02:37< Soliton> The problem was that the boot partition (/dev/sda1) was not mounted when grub was looking for the kernel.
20081216 00:02:40< Soliton> The symbolic links in the root needs to be changed.
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20081216 00:05:43< loonycyborg> I have a separate boot partition and grub gets kernels from it just fine.
20081216 00:12:12< loonycyborg> Some menu entries in server's grub.conf try to use /vmlinuz which is a symlink pointing to /boot which is a separate partition.
20081216 00:12:54< Ivanovic> Soliton: could you please make sure that the cronjobs from /backup are active again?
20081216 00:12:57< loonycyborg> Though first two entries correctly use /vmlinuz-2.6.26.2.intel
20081216 00:13:07< Ivanovic> since those really should be in so that the databases are backed up daily
20081216 00:14:23< Soliton> Ivanovic: i know nothing about those.
20081216 00:14:25< loonycyborg> Ah. /vmlinuz-2.6.26.2.intel is the kernel he copied to root..
20081216 00:15:15< Soliton> crontab of root seems to have been lost.
20081216 00:15:24< Soliton> if it was in there.
20081216 00:15:50< loonycyborg> The right way of fixing this would be to make grub use the partition with kernels as root :)
20081216 00:16:57< Ivanovic> Soliton: please load the crontab from /backup/scripts/root-crontab
20081216 00:17:07< Ivanovic> just made an adjustment so that the website is backupped, too
20081216 00:17:17< Ivanovic> (and with it the forum attachments)
20081216 00:17:33< Soliton> ok.
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20081216 00:18:00< Ivanovic> and if you got new stuff as backup, enter it in this file so that it does not get lost in a crash
20081216 00:18:14< Ivanovic> (yes, eventually we should IMO backup all of /home/ somewhere there)
20081216 00:18:34< Ivanovic> will make restoring in the case of a hard HD crash a lot easier
20081216 00:18:51< Ivanovic> and we should probably also backup the list of installed packages and stuff like this
20081216 00:19:03< Ivanovic> okay, got to head off to bed now, will (maybe) announce tomorrow...
20081216 00:19:05< Ivanovic> n8
20081216 00:20:37< Espreon> Good night.
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20081216 01:16:35< Rhonda> Soliton: I didn't exchange the kernel.
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20081216 01:17:30< AI0867> wesbot: bug 12714
20081216 01:17:31< wesbot> AI0867: Are you sure with that number?  Please check again...
20081216 01:19:57< Rhonda> Ivanovic, Soliton: And from what I understood I fixed their broken menu.lst informations so grub should work. But given that they do something strange with their kernel setup I can't be totally sure here ...
20081216 01:23:52< Soliton> Rhonda: it sounds like we shouldn't put kernels in /boot/ which makes one wonder why there is a /boot/ on an extra partition and all..
20081216 01:27:02< Soliton> Rhonda: did you ever get around to asking them about the custom kernel stuff?
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20081216 02:06:54< Turuk> in case it was unknown, the search function for the forum does not work.  You can click on the search button and get the search page, put your words in, but then when you click search, it comes back with an error.
20081216 02:07:22< Turuk> SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]
20081216 02:07:22< Turuk> Table './forum/phpbb3_search_wordmatch' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed [144]
20081216 02:07:22< Turuk> An SQL error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact the Board Administrator if this problem persists.
20081216 02:15:11< CIA-8> soliton * r31527 /trunk/src/server/game.cpp: made observers not consider sides in a started game as theirs, again (hint: it helps reading code comments before randomly changing things...)
20081216 02:15:19< CIA-8> soliton * r31528 /trunk/src/server/game.cpp: use the current player when sending AI controller changes (less special cases)
20081216 02:15:22< CIA-8> soliton * r31529 /trunk/src/play_controller.cpp: put observers into browse mode again
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20081216 03:10:19< Sirp> Hello.
20081216 03:10:51< Espreon> Hello Sirp.
20081216 03:11:34< Sirp> hi Espreon 
20081216 03:12:05< Espreon> I recently discovered the joy of git-svn.
20081216 03:12:24< Espreon> Therefore, I am quite happy.
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20081216 06:05:03< Turuk> is the dialogue for Orcish Incursion fixed in svn?  The speaker designated as Advisor does not speak his lines, so Erlornas seems to be speaking to himself. (Noticed in 1.5.6)
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20081216 06:40:12< CIA-8> soliton * r31530 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * Decreased the melee attack of the Lieutenant from 9-3 to 8-3.
20081216 06:41:46< Espreon> :(
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20081216 07:27:17< Soliton> Ivanovic: DBI connect(';host=localhost;mysql_read_default_group=mysqlhotcopy','debian-sys-maint',...) failed: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'      +(using password: YES) at /usr/bin/mysqlhotcopy line 182
20081216 07:27:21< Soliton> MySQL Hotcopy failed!
20081216 07:28:23< Espreon> That must suck.
20081216 07:50:38< Espreon> Good night
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20081216 07:59:34< Ivanovic> Soliton: might be related to my change to the script
20081216 07:59:42< Ivanovic> i tried to add the target 'blog'
20081216 08:01:17< Ivanovic> Soliton: i removed this part again, i hope it helps
20081216 08:02:56< Ivanovic> though my guess is simply that this DB user is not existing
20081216 08:03:04< Ivanovic> please ask Rhonda to have a look into it
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20081216 09:16:08 * Rhonda is here
20081216 09:16:39< Rhonda> What was the problem this time?
20081216 09:17:10< Rhonda> Soliton: What do you mean, not put kernel in /boot? There _was_ already a kernel there. ...
20081216 09:17:29< Rhonda> Or rather, even two. Their custom one and a packaged one.
20081216 09:18:15< Rhonda> Yes, I will start a discussion with them. That approach is extremely inconvenient, and I start to get the impression that they don't really have any special knowledge about how to do this ...
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20081216 09:37:06< Rhonda> ah
20081216 09:38:21< Rhonda> DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table './forum/phpbb3_search_wordmatch' is marked as crashed
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20081216 09:46:03< Rhonda> Also in here, I had to shut down the database to repair that forum table.
20081216 10:23:48< AI0867> Soliton: how about giving the fire dragon 100% fire resistance like the armageddon drake?
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20081216 10:49:51< noy> AI0867: it shouldn't be a problem. Dragons are the herald of the apocalypse... one would think they could withstand the fire and brimstone 
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20081216 11:02:19< AI0867> yeah, I have suggested it before for that reason
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20081216 11:21:25< Soliton> Rhonda: they said that grub could not find the kernel in /boot because it wasn't mounted at that time.
20081216 11:21:39< Rhonda> They have their own custom kernel there.
20081216 11:21:48< Rhonda> There is no specific /boot partition.
20081216 11:22:04< Rhonda> Oh, there is.
20081216 11:22:37< Rhonda> But if that was their wording, that response shows that they don't know their stuff.
20081216 11:23:31< Soliton> yes, it certainly makes little sense when they made an extra /boot partition.
20081216 11:23:52< Rhonda> Found the problem.
20081216 11:23:58< Rhonda> Fixed it.
20081216 11:24:26< Rhonda> But /boot doesn't need to be mounted at all, such a statement shows that they don't understand grub. :)
20081216 11:24:34< Ivanovic_ontour> :)
20081216 11:25:12< Rhonda> Especially since there is no kernel running at all at the time grub works.
20081216 11:25:28< loonycyborg> Grub can mount partitions itself :)
20081216 11:25:43< loonycyborg> It was just mounting wrong partition..
20081216 11:25:52< Rhonda> That's a clear understanding problem.
20081216 11:25:57< Rhonda> grub doesn't mount anything
20081216 11:26:04< Rhonda> grub can _access_ partitions itself.
20081216 11:26:32< Rhonda> It doesn't know a shit about the mounting concept.
20081216 11:30:09< loonycyborg> AFAIK the only aspect in which grub accessing partitions differs from mounting is that it doesn't invlove mapping filesystem on the partiton to the mountpoint..
20081216 11:32:29< Rhonda> Soliton: Alright, but that the grub couldn't find the kernel wasn't the reason that the system needed a reboot, was there a crash or similar?
20081216 11:33:12< Soliton> Rhonda: i couldn't find anything in the logs. it just froze or something.
20081216 11:33:36< Rhonda> hmm, strange
20081216 11:33:37< Soliton> or rebooted and then got stuck.
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20081216 11:34:42< Soliton> so rebooting should work fine now, right? what was the problem? should we make a test reboot just to make sure?
20081216 11:35:50< loonycyborg> Rhonda: Is (hd0,0) in menu.lst the boot partition(which is with kernels)?
20081216 11:37:43< loonycyborg> If yes, then last two menu entries are bogus..
20081216 11:39:29< Rhonda> I switched it from hd(0,2) (is /) to (hd0,0) (/boot) just before
20081216 11:40:03< Rhonda> Why do you say the last two entries are bogus?
20081216 11:40:14< loonycyborg> They use /vmlinuz
20081216 11:40:25< Rhonda> So?
20081216 11:40:26< loonycyborg> There's no such symlink on /boot
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20081216 11:40:38< Rhonda> You're right
20081216 11:44:16< Rhonda> But those two entries aren't used anyway.
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20081216 11:52:45< loonycyborg> According to Murphy's law remote reboot requests and OLM's tech support will use only those entries :)
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20081216 11:57:03< Rhonda> It's not the default image, their own breeded kernel from which we don't know wether it is up to fixed known problems or not is default.
20081216 11:57:23< Rhonda> At least it's a module-less kernel. But that doesn't gain much, does it ...
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20081216 12:35:18 * Soliton wonders why '/srv/www/html/.htaccess' among other files belongs to the suokko group. ;-)
20081216 12:36:08< Rhonda> Because I didn't run the chown on /srv/www, only on /olddrive ...  %-/
20081216 12:37:12< Soliton> i activated the forum down entry in that file now, btw.
20081216 12:37:42< Rhonda> Oh, there is one?
20081216 12:37:55< Soliton> yeah, same for the wiki.
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20081216 12:44:48< Soliton> oh, a load of 8+ on the server.
20081216 12:45:05< Soliton> not the best time to have restarted wesnothd..
20081216 12:47:54< Rhonda> Well, it's mostly disk i/o from the myisamchk
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20081216 12:48:08< Rhonda> So the wesnothd shouldn't be any troubles because it's mostly CPU, not?
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20081216 12:48:44< Rhonda> Ah. We can't use iotop because their homebreed kernel doesn't have i/o accounting support. :(
20081216 12:48:58< Soliton> once running, yes. but killing, doing some stuff and starting seems to take ages.
20081216 12:49:43< Soliton> killed the trunk server 8 minutes ago.. not restarted yet.
20081216 12:50:36< loonycyborg> Yes. That's the purpose of having custom-compiled kernel. To not to include some features in it :)
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20081216 14:52:53< Rhonda> Soliton: How does one disable/enable the forum?
20081216 14:53:22< Rhonda> ah
20081216 14:54:22< Rhonda> Wasn't 1.4.7 announced publicly yet?
20081216 14:59:17< Rhonda> Just for the record, started the forum again, and mysql backup did run properly, too
20081216 15:00:04< Ivanovic_ontour> Rhonda: no, it was not announced so far
20081216 15:00:15< Ivanovic_ontour> i had planned to do it yesterday in the evenings
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20081216 15:12:41< Rhonda> Ivanovic_ontour: I just wondered about the 1.4.6 in #wesnoth topic, that's why :)
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20081216 17:07:56< Ivanovic> hi
20081216 17:10:25< crimson_penguin> hi Ivanovic 
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20081216 17:27:35< Patterner> Tale of a Mage: Old Enemies" you cannot get rid of the children.
20081216 17:28:07< Patterner> Tale of a Mage: Price of Tennis" game_error: unknown unit type " while generating traits
20081216 17:29:09 * Soliton bets that was not a copy&paste.
20081216 17:30:30< Turuk> there are a number of problems in that due to Skelerange not making the right changes when he went from 1.4 to 1.5
20081216 17:30:36< Turuk> and just general errors
20081216 17:32:47< Soliton> sounds like a job for wmllint then?
20081216 17:33:15< Turuk> indeed, I do not know if he ran it, but it would probably fix the errors
20081216 17:37:10 * loonycyborg kicks CIA-8
20081216 17:37:10< CIA-8> ow
20081216 17:38:00< Turuk> Patterner, do you know what unit type it claimed it was trying to generate?
20081216 17:38:09< Turuk> SkeleRanger made a large number of spelling errors
20081216 17:39:30< Patterner> well, "unit of type  not found" isn't helpful...
20081216 17:40:34< Patterner> that's all I have. It happens when the prince itself attacks somebody
20081216 17:40:57< Turuk> hmm ok
20081216 17:44:26 * Turuk just looked through all the code, has not a clue
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20081216 17:57:51< mordante> hi
20081216 17:59:31< Turuk> afternoon mordante
20081216 17:59:52< mordante> hi Turuk you're right it's still afternoon here
20081216 18:00:13< Turuk> yup, I have started using the local time chat feature
20081216 18:00:18< Turuk> so I can greet people accordingly
20081216 18:01:34< mordante> ah cool
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20081216 18:25:41< fendrin> hi mordante
20081216 18:25:49< mordante> hi fendrin 
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20081216 19:10:30< Patterner> fendrin: were the auto-saves helpfull at all?
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20081216 19:39:42< fendrin> Patterner: they are strange. I believe you started the game with a version of DM. You did an upgrade and continued. I hope that caused the errors.
20081216 19:42:45< Patterner> nope. one version.
20081216 19:43:20< Patterner> hmmm...
20081216 19:43:33< Patterner> I just looked at the directory and I sent you obsolete files.
20081216 19:44:12< Patterner> 08-12-14 20:18 DM-Overture_replay.gz (and all others from 14th)
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20081216 20:34:11< [Relic]> Hello :)
20081216 20:34:52< loonycyborg> hi
20081216 20:36:23< mordante> hi [Relic] 
20081216 20:36:33< [Relic]> :)
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20081216 21:35:47< Ivanovic> okay, time to write the 1.4.7 announcement
20081216 21:58:35< Ivanovic> everybody: please check for mistakes: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23292
20081216 22:00:27< mordante> don't know sounds a bit awkward, too many manys "provides some smaller and many bigger updates to many translations"
20081216 22:00:48< mordante> one Debian package? We have three of them :-P
20081216 22:02:26< mordante> nothing else
20081216 22:02:33 * Ivanovic does not care how many of those are there
20081216 22:04:53< Ivanovic> okay, updateed the frontpage
20081216 22:07:53< mordante> 1.4.6 was only translation updates for users, 1.4.7 has more in player_changelog
20081216 22:08:58< mordante> that's all
20081216 22:15:42< Ivanovic> fixed
20081216 22:16:16< mordante> ok, night
20081216 22:16:29< Ivanovic> n8 mordante
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20081216 22:18:15< CIA-8> ai0867 * r31532 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Correct svn properties for *.ico files.
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20081216 22:27:53< Espreon> Hello people.
20081216 22:28:19< fendrin_> hi
20081216 22:28:56< Espreon> fendrin_: I wanted to talk to you about the Sanddancer in terms of attacks.
20081216 22:29:12< fendrin_> Espreon: 
20081216 22:29:28< Espreon> Ummmm...
20081216 22:29:29< fendrin_> What are your ideas?
20081216 22:30:12< Espreon> Well... It would wield metal claws for melee, and it would wield sand for ranged.
20081216 22:31:04< Espreon> I would have the sand be an impact attack.
20081216 22:31:07< CIA-8> loonycyborg * r31531 /trunk/packaging/windows/wesnoth-icon.ico: 
20081216 22:31:07< CIA-8> Fixed bug #12716
20081216 22:31:07< CIA-8> Windows icon was apparently screwed by imagemagick convert.
20081216 22:31:07< CIA-8> Committed fixed icon by submitter of abovementioned bug.
20081216 22:32:43< Espreon> fendrin_: Any thoughts or comments?
20081216 22:33:20< fendrin_> Espreon: wield metal claws on gloves?
20081216 22:34:30< Espreon> Well... it would be the type the Shadow wields.
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20081216 22:37:31< fendrin_> Espreon: I am fine with these attacks. I believe they fit. Can you imagine to have it some movement after attack? That should be doable in wml.
20081216 22:38:18< Espreon> So... it would still be able to move after its attack?
20081216 22:38:24< Espreon> *it attacks
20081216 22:39:15< fendrin_> Espreon: yes, that is the idea.
20081216 22:39:48< Espreon> Well... I only imagine that this would apply to its claws attack.
20081216 22:39:56< Espreon> *this would be applied
20081216 22:44:20< fendrin_> Not for the ranged one? That seemed more suitable for me.
20081216 22:45:12< Espreon> Well... since it is using its sand to attack... so... it is focusing on attacking.
20081216 22:46:19< Espreon> As for claws, it is using its sand to complement its attack in terms of mobility.
20081216 22:50:52< fendrin_> Let's try it out. Does the quenoth sandbox still exist?
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20081216 22:52:12< Espreon> Yup.
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20081216 23:25:13< Espreon> Hello boucman.
20081216 23:25:20< boucman> hey 
20081216 23:28:46< Ivanovic> i am off to bed, n8
20081216 23:29:24< Espreon> Good night.
20081216 23:56:22< fendrin_> Can someone reproduce this https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12750 under windows, please?
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