--- Log opened Wed Dec 17 00:00:25 2008
20081217 00:02:03< loonycyborg> fendrin_: Tried it with cross-compiled binary. Save works without errors.
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20081217 00:06:28< fendrin_> loonycyborg: your build was done in linux but the target was windows?
20081217 00:06:53< loonycyborg> Yes.
20081217 00:07:02< loonycyborg> And I tested it with wine :)
20081217 00:07:15< fendrin_> loonycyborg: lol 
20081217 00:07:26< fendrin_> loonycyborg: Any idea what I should do with the bug?
20081217 00:09:15< loonycyborg> Ask the submitter try to reproduce it again with next 1.5 release.
20081217 00:09:35< loonycyborg> Maybe it was already fixed.
20081217 00:09:53< loonycyborg> Ir it's a permission issue like in that other bug..
20081217 00:10:01< loonycyborg> s/Ir/Or
20081217 00:11:04< loonycyborg> https://gna.org/bugs/?12683
20081217 00:11:29< fendrin_> loonycyborg: which state should the bug be sorted in?
20081217 00:11:56< Turuk> sigh, new version, server times out
20081217 00:12:00< Turuk> too many connections
20081217 00:12:05< Turuk> can wesnoth be slightly less popular?
20081217 00:12:53< Turuk> question, is there a reason the main page went back from 1.4.7 to 1.4.6?
20081217 00:13:09< fendrin_> We could make George W Bush the projekt leader.
20081217 00:13:12 * fendrin_ hides
20081217 00:13:22< Turuk> :D
20081217 00:13:27< Espreon> Nah... let's make Fidel Castro the new project leader.
20081217 00:13:32< Turuk> and the forum no longer works?
20081217 00:13:39< voris> I just reloaded main page and it says 1.4.7
20081217 00:13:52< Turuk> .... :\ 
20081217 00:13:57 * Turuk smacks his computer
20081217 00:14:02< Turuk> same here
20081217 00:14:04< Turuk> odd....
20081217 00:14:06< voris> heh
20081217 00:14:09< Turuk> I definitely saw 1.4.6 though
20081217 00:14:12< voris> Cache.
20081217 00:14:21< Turuk> most likely
20081217 00:14:24< voris> I didn't get .7 until I reloaded.
20081217 00:14:26< loonycyborg> fendrin_: "Works for me" :)
20081217 00:14:33< Turuk> can you see the forums voris?
20081217 00:14:36< noy> Heh fendrin_ that reminds me of a joke about Fidel's first cabinet
20081217 00:14:38 * voris looks
20081217 00:14:48< voris> Nope.
20081217 00:14:52< voris> Connection overload.
20081217 00:14:53< Turuk> ok, so not just me
20081217 00:14:54< thespaceinvader> Turuk: i can't either
20081217 00:15:06< thespaceinvader> General Error
20081217 00:15:07< thespaceinvader> SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]
20081217 00:15:09< thespaceinvader> Too many connections [1040]
20081217 00:15:10< thespaceinvader> An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.
20081217 00:15:16< Turuk> yeah, I got the same message, good to know that I am not alone at least
20081217 00:15:25< voris> You forgot: Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
20081217 00:15:32< Turuk> I just have to check and make sure my baby is not letting me down
20081217 00:15:40< voris> and "Return to index page"
20081217 00:15:48< thespaceinvader> voris: i didn't copy that bit :P
20081217 00:15:49< voris> I mean if you're going to paste the whole page... :P
20081217 00:16:12< Turuk> thespaceinvader, great job on the saurians by the way, I love your portraits, especially the fact that they are full-body
20081217 00:16:19< Turuk> even if they will be cut off :P
20081217 00:16:25< thespaceinvader> thanks, Turuk
20081217 00:16:43< thespaceinvader> i'm hoping to persuade TPTB that full body is acceptable for the saurians, though
20081217 00:17:08< Turuk> agreed, I hope that view would be allowed, I know the reasoning behind cutting off the figures
20081217 00:17:10< fendrin_> noy: Please tell the joke.
20081217 00:17:17< Turuk> but I feel that full-body adds more character
20081217 00:19:17< noy> Its not good: when it was time to appoint a chief economist, Fidel asked the room. Nobody answered, because nobody had a clue. Then he asked again and Che Guevera jumped up from his nap and volunteered. Everybody was stunned. Then he said, "you were looking for an Communist right?"
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20081217 00:21:23< Turuk> haha
20081217 00:22:01< fendrin_> loonycyborg: Do you have a windows 1.5.6 release version around? Please check the bug there as well.
20081217 00:23:03< loonycyborg> fendrin_: sure.
20081217 00:26:52< fendrin_> noy: I don't get it.
20081217 00:27:03< Turuk> ? Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /srv/www/html/mw/includes/User.php on line 777
20081217 00:27:06< noy> economist - communist ?
20081217 00:27:39< noy> also academic economists laugh because everybody knows that communists can't be economists. But thats like an ultra geeky joke among them
20081217 00:28:07< Turuk> all of the tabs now display the above, except Home and Forums on the main page
20081217 00:36:25< loonycyborg> fendrin_: I can repro it with 1.5.6 under wine.
20081217 00:37:08< fendrin_> loonycyborg: Thank you very much. I am going to mark the bug as fixed but leave it open until the reporter confirms that it has vanished for him.
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20081217 00:42:47< Rotonen> i came barging in here a while ago asking about the "alt gets stuck when you alt tab into the game window" and we concluded it is an sdl problem
20081217 00:43:00< Rotonen> suprise suprise, it is actually fixed in a newer sdl dll
20081217 00:43:16< Rotonen> the problem was limited to the windows platform
20081217 00:43:29< Rotonen> we just found out this over on tmw
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20081217 02:33:55< [Relic]> Hello :)
20081217 02:38:16< Espreon> Hello :(
20081217 02:40:26< [Relic]> :)
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20081217 03:23:46< Espreon> Hello Jetrel.
20081217 03:24:28< Turuk> hey Jetrel, still looking for Shadow_Master?
20081217 03:26:04< Jetrel> sorta, 
20081217 03:26:25< Jetrel> I'm about to be busy snowblowing the driveway...
20081217 03:26:29< Turuk> he was having laptop problems, so that might explain his recent absence
20081217 03:26:34< Jetrel> ah
20081217 03:26:53< Turuk> ah, have fun with the white evil
20081217 03:26:55< Jetrel> Yeah, I felt like working with him on dynamic unit recoloring.
20081217 03:27:04< Espreon> Jetrel: Any particular reason you are looking for him?
20081217 03:27:33< Jetrel> Namely, we *should* have the code capability to permanently give specific units different coloration when they're hired.
20081217 03:28:14< Jetrel> The idea is that I'd like to have a whole set of similar but slightly different colors to apply to, say, troll skin color, so that each unit looks unique.
20081217 03:29:04< Jetrel> I just don't know how to do this at present.
20081217 03:29:42< Turuk> interesting, that would certainly add a new level to the gameplay, making it more unique
20081217 03:29:52< Espreon> Jetrel: Maybe duration=forever will solve the problem.
20081217 03:30:49< Jetrel> Espreon:  eh, no it's at a more basic level that I don't know - I don't know how to even apply it on creation, and I don't know how to even apply the random recolor, period.\
20081217 03:31:28< Espreon> Look at scenario-test.cfg
20081217 03:31:45< Jetrel> Espreon:  Yeah.
20081217 03:32:26< Espreon> It holds the knowledge of which you seek.
20081217 03:33:22< Jetrel> Possibly.
20081217 03:33:30< Jetrel> I have to go kill winter now.
20081217 03:33:40< Espreon> :(
20081217 03:33:54< Espreon> It snowed in my area as well.
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20081217 03:39:16< Espreon> Hello crimson_penguin.
20081217 03:39:25< crimson_penguin> hi Espreon 
20081217 03:50:11< crimson_penguin> I see 1.4.7 was announced :)
20081217 03:51:07< Turuk> now if only I could download it... :)
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20081217 03:55:07< Sapient> dang.. did we get slashdotted again?
20081217 03:56:08< Sapient> at least the main page is still up
20081217 03:56:54< Espreon> Oh, hello Sapient.
20081217 03:56:58< Sapient> so you can still get the links to download it, Turuk ;)
20081217 03:57:01< Sapient> hi Espreon
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20081217 03:57:52< Sapient> Turuk: having problems downloading 1.4.7?
20081217 03:58:23< Turuk> yes, when I click on the download button for it, it takes me to sourceforge but will not actually download
20081217 03:58:33< Turuk> so I tried the direct link, and no luck, same with the mirror
20081217 03:58:42< Turuk> it might just be me
20081217 03:58:45< Sapient> it's working for me
20081217 03:58:50< Sapient> just.. slow
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20081217 03:59:00< AI0867> checking...
20081217 03:59:04< Turuk> I had that thought too, it might just be the sheer number of people trying to download it
20081217 03:59:12< AI0867> nah, SF is huge
20081217 03:59:36< Sapient> the wesnoth demand is too great!
20081217 03:59:41< Turuk> hmm, working now when I switched to windows
20081217 04:00:07< AI0867> works fine here
20081217 04:00:28< AI0867> did you click the linux link or something?
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20081217 04:00:34< AI0867> that directs you to the wiki
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20081217 04:00:49< Turuk> nope, it took me to sourceforge, but the download would not initialize
20081217 04:02:40< AI0867> strange
20081217 04:02:57< voris> Very.
20081217 04:02:59< AI0867> but that would be a sourceforge issue
20081217 04:03:16< AI0867> did you recently install noscript or something?
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20081217 04:03:24< voris> I had trouble with the first download stopping after 18mb.
20081217 04:03:34< voris> But second download went without a hitch.
20081217 04:03:58< Turuk> not at all, I have not had issues with them in the past
20081217 04:03:59< AI0867> voris: wget -c
20081217 04:04:08< Turuk> and it's now downloading fine on windows
20081217 04:04:18< Turuk> just had an issue with the Mac
20081217 04:04:21< voris> Yeah, that's a good point.
20081217 04:04:27< voris> Much wiser. :)
20081217 04:11:44< Turuk> any ideas on the issue with the forum?
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20081217 04:20:58 * Espreon_ Espreon
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20081217 06:03:57< Soliton> restarted mysqld with more connections allowed now.
20081217 06:08:39< AI0867> works for me now
20081217 06:08:45< AI0867> did we take a slashdotting or something?
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20081217 06:11:55< Soliton> we've had that problem before with default mysqld settings and they weren' adjusted on the new host yet.
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20081217 07:06:07< CIA-8> ai0867 * r31533 /trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/scenarios/4_Valley_of_Trolls.cfg: Fix some role assignment and uses.
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20081217 07:12:20 * Turuk is happy to see his playtesting serves some purpose. :)
20081217 07:13:26< CIA-8> ai0867 * r31534 /trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/scenarios/ (4 files): Standardise the filter for Erlornas some, fix invalid role= filters.
20081217 07:13:53< AI0867> Turuk: well, I didn't fix your exact issue
20081217 07:13:55< AI0867> I think
20081217 07:14:05< AI0867> just the more obvious ones
20081217 07:14:24< AI0867> if role=Advisor doesn't work, that's a C++ bug, and I'm too tired to chase one of those right now
20081217 07:14:32< Turuk> it works when it is in quotations
20081217 07:14:34< Turuk> if that helps
20081217 07:14:39< Turuk> that was the only time I saw it appear
20081217 07:14:41< AI0867> yeah, read that
20081217 07:14:48< AI0867> there were other issues too though
20081217 07:14:50< Turuk> ah ok
20081217 07:15:00< AI0867> like role=Erlornas
20081217 07:15:15< Turuk> is there a reason people switch between speaker, role, id?
20081217 07:15:20< AI0867> or role=Advisor when no Advisor is guaranteed to exist
20081217 07:15:24< AI0867> role is assigned by [role]
20081217 07:15:28< AI0867> id is just id
20081217 07:15:36< AI0867> speaker is id + narrator, unit, second_unit
20081217 07:15:50< Turuk> gotcha
20081217 07:15:54< AI0867> many tend to get confused about roles though
20081217 07:16:25< Turuk> role is just assigned to a random friendly unit, correct? as the unit it is assigned to may die over the course of a scenario?
20081217 07:16:53< AI0867> assigned to a seemingly random but deterministically determined unit that matches the filter
20081217 07:16:57< AI0867> and yes, it can die
20081217 07:17:03< AI0867> and then the role isn't assigned any more
20081217 07:17:38< Turuk> ok, so then if the advisor is not a hero unit, and dies, the dialogue will stop appearing?
20081217 07:17:47< AI0867> so having the advisor you created in the start event converse with you in the victory event can turn out to be a conversation with a ghost only you can see
20081217 07:17:59< Turuk> that was my realization
20081217 07:18:04< AI0867> yeah
20081217 07:18:14< AI0867> I'll see if I can test AOI tomorrow
20081217 07:18:20< AI0867> see if it's fixed now
20081217 07:18:30< Turuk> so relying on a role throughout a number of scenarios like that is a dangerous gamble.
20081217 07:18:44< Turuk> just nice on my part to know that reviewing campaigns can help
20081217 07:18:52< AI0867> well, shadow master wrote a nice little macro that reassigns the role when the original guy dies
20081217 07:19:14< AI0867> you can filter on role in a die event just like every other unit property
20081217 07:20:08< AI0867> could be worth mainlining that, I should poke zookeeper about it
20081217 07:20:22< Turuk> indeed, that would help out in this case
20081217 07:20:51< AI0867> well, I'm off for the night (morning)
20081217 07:21:04< Turuk> haha ok, good night then
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20081217 10:59:47< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31535 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-manual/it.po wesnoth-trow/it.po): updated Italian translation
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20081217 13:44:58< Ivanovic> hi
20081217 13:45:47< zookeeper> i'm gonna add an impassable overlay terrain, so one can make arbitrary hexes impassable. should i make a new one or just make some of the existing void/impassable special terrains work like that?
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20081217 14:10:02< CIA-8> zookeeper * r31536 /trunk/data/core/ (images/terrain/impassable-editor.png terrain.cfg): Added a new invisible impassable overlay terrain, which can be painted on top of any (non-layered) terrain to make the hex impassable.
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20081217 17:27:26< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31537 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-nr/hu.po wesnoth-tb/hu.po wesnoth-tsg/hu.po): updated Hungarian translation
20081217 17:37:04< CIA-8> ivanovic * r31538 /trunk/ (582 files in 14 dirs): 
20081217 17:37:04< CIA-8> pot-update
20081217 17:37:04< CIA-8> regenerated doc files
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20081217 20:45:40< [Relic]> Hello :)
20081217 20:47:57< fendrin> hi
20081217 20:50:32< thespaceinvader> evening =)
20081217 20:59:49< [Relic]> :)
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20081217 21:44:43< Patterner> it seems like wesnoth runs with boost 1.37. after fixing .so names...
20081217 21:47:57< loonycyborg> I find this unsurprising since no libraries wesnoth uses were changed in incompatible manner in 1.37
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20081217 21:57:16< Patterner> still a good thing for me.
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20081217 22:24:29< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=326445#p326445
20081217 22:26:26< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I believe that placing userdata in My Documents will fix that issue.
20081217 22:26:41< loonycyborg> We'll see how it'll actually work in 1.5.7 :)
20081217 22:26:43< Ivanovic> yes, it should
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20081217 22:27:00< Ivanovic> but you can state that this will be the case from 1.5.7 onwards
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20081217 22:32:58< loonycyborg> Posted.
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20081217 22:40:16< zookeeper> huh?
20081217 22:40:41< zookeeper> ah, command-line argument, cool.
20081217 22:41:31< zookeeper> loonycyborg, i presume you found that it'd be cumbersome to make the userdata location an option in the installer itself?
20081217 22:42:14< loonycyborg> For now yes. OAB :)
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20081217 22:53:12< [Relic]> Hello :)
20081217 22:54:08< loonycyborg> Hey! You already said "Hello :)" today :)
20081217 22:56:00< [Relic]> :)
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20081217 23:14:39< Ivanovic> i am off to bed now, n8 everbody
20081217 23:15:37< Espreon> Good night.
20081217 23:35:09< fendrin> Where can I find an overlay icon to mark a unit as a victory important target?
20081217 23:36:09< Ivanovic> use the IS_HERO (or something like this) macro
20081217 23:39:08< fendrin> Ivanovic: to mark an enemy?
20081217 23:40:41< Espreon> fendrin: You could use IFtU's IS_BOSS macro.
20081217 23:40:58< Espreon> It uses a red crown to mark the boss.
20081217 23:41:51< fendrin> Espreon: the units that must be killed are no leaders. They are just guards. And the image needs to be in core.
20081217 23:44:07< Espreon> fendrin: Why do you need such a marker anyway? Is if for LoW or something?
20081217 23:44:12< Espreon> *is it
20081217 23:45:29< fendrin> Espreon: yes, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=22451
20081217 23:47:43< Espreon> Yeah, guards are not worthy of the awesome red crown...
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