--- Log opened Sat Dec 13 00:00:06 2008 20081213 00:05:10-!- e7th04sh [i=e7th04sh@62.61.58.183] has quit [] 20081213 00:11:47-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has quit ["Off to the real world.."] 20081213 00:36:12-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20081213 00:47:19< Ivanovic> n8 20081213 00:54:41-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-202-137.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 00:56:04-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.202.137] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 01:03:56-!- Pershire [n=Pershire@cpe-72-130-162-211.san.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 01:12:26-!- Behl [n=tobizaz@3510ds4-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 20081213 01:14:43-!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe9ff800-215.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20081213 01:59:37-!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20081213 02:03:00-!- admix-the-second [n=Eugene@ppp154-84.tis-dialog.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 02:17:12-!- krt [n=krt@dslb-088-066-023-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20081213 02:26:10-!- admix-the-second [n=Eugene@ppp154-84.tis-dialog.ru] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 02:27:52-!- Pershire [n=Pershire@cpe-72-130-162-211.san.res.rr.com] has quit [] 20081213 02:28:10-!- vock [n=vock@dsl-67-212-9-65.acanac.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 02:29:00< vock> I can't seem to get the add-ons to ever work from the game itself, but I found the download page on wesnoth.org. If i download the add-on I want from the website, how do I install it? 20081213 02:38:22-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 02:40:12< vock> if i just extract add-ons to the .wesnoth, will that work? 20081213 02:40:22-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.202.137] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 02:41:05-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.202.137] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 02:41:55< voris> extract to ~/.wesnoth/data/campaigns 20081213 02:42:06< [Relic]> Hello :) 20081213 02:43:01< vock> thanks voris 20081213 02:43:08< voris> np 20081213 02:54:56-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 02:55:04-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.202.137] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 03:00:15-!- vock [n=vock@dsl-67-212-9-65.acanac.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 03:06:16-!- noy [n=Noy@70.70.128.133] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 03:09:08-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 03:13:48-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 03:30:34-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 03:38:44-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 03:42:52-!- fendrin_ [n=fabi@g227016006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 03:44:48-!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081213 03:55:15-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 03:59:24-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Hi! I'm a quit message virus vaccine. If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!"] 20081213 04:00:01-!- fendrin [n=fabi@g226132021.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 04:09:20-!- krt [n=krt@dslb-088-066-023-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 04:11:09-!- PeterSP is now known as PeterSP|Away 20081213 04:12:34-!- PeterSP|Away is now known as PeterSP 20081213 04:40:47-!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db26cd8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 04:40:57-!- PeterSP is now known as PeterSP|Away 20081213 04:41:07-!- PeterSP|Away is now known as PeterSP 20081213 04:58:04-!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db26a36.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 04:58:46-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20081213 05:11:37-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 05:18:21-!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 05:23:03-!- noy [n=Noy@70.70.128.133] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 05:24:01-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 05:33:39-!- aanderse [n=aanderse@CPE001b11cc67d3-CM0019475d7f5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 05:58:54-!- bihu_ [n=gecko@211.144.106.133] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 06:11:45-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.217] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 06:16:25-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-202-137.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 06:17:47< [Relic]> Hello :) 20081213 06:46:01< VurtualRuler98> There isn't an easy way to pre-desegnate a villiage as a certain player's, is there?(a multiplayer map) 20081213 06:46:20< VurtualRuler98> I built an epic map and suddenly everyone decides that taking over all my villiages is a good thing. 20081213 06:46:55< VurtualRuler98> Since in about two days I'm going to be attacked by three combined armies, I don't think this is a good thing. 20081213 06:47:11-!- PeterSP is now known as PeterSP|Away 20081213 06:48:13-!- PeterSP|Away is now known as PeterSP 20081213 07:08:45< [Relic]> there is 20081213 07:09:08< [Relic]> can't remember what it is though 20081213 07:09:39< AI0867> {CAPTURE_VILLAGE} in prestart 20081213 07:09:45< AI0867> or {VILLAGE} in [side] 20081213 07:26:06-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 07:30:24-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@cpe-71-67-100-73.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [] 20081213 07:36:43-!- PeterSP is now known as PeterSP|Away 20081213 07:46:36-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-202-137.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 07:46:55-!- bihu_ [n=gecko@211.144.106.133] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 08:49:23-!- bihu_ [n=gecko@211.144.106.133] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 08:57:37-!- bihu_ [n=gecko@211.144.106.133] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 09:03:56< Ivanovic> moin 20081213 09:04:32-!- bihu_ [n=gecko@211.144.106.133] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20081213 09:21:17-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@CPE-124-185-39-152.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 09:23:51-!- mameluke [n=bo@234-0.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 09:25:35< VurtualRuler98> Hrm, wesnoth does not appear to have a feature to send gold to my allies. 20081213 09:29:26< voris> I'd be surprised if nobody has done it yet. 20081213 09:29:35< voris> But it is not in the core, no. 20081213 09:29:49< voris> Easily done via WML though. :) 20081213 09:30:30 * voris actually has that one on his todo list for sx shop 20081213 09:32:58< voris> First, however, need to figure out why I can't get a simple [and] block to work the way I expect it to... :) 20081213 09:38:45< VurtualRuler98> Hrm 20081213 09:38:48< VurtualRuler98> What about a unit that carries money? 20081213 09:39:03< VurtualRuler98> That'd sound interesting. 20081213 09:39:21< voris> ? 20081213 09:39:28< VurtualRuler98> Like, a caravan. 20081213 09:39:31< voris> You mean a caravan unit? 20081213 09:39:32< voris> heh 20081213 09:41:40< voris> There are good possibilities with that, sure. 20081213 09:42:09< VurtualRuler98> Suddenly, a group of previously-neutral units decides to ambush your caravan to a wimpy army, leaving trained soldiers in it dead, and money spilled all over the road, they collapse, and eight days later your fort is overrun by the enemy, and the guys who ambushes are seen being paid lots of money. 20081213 09:44:30< VurtualRuler98> Also, whoever decided that wesnoth sound can still play while minimised was a genius 20081213 09:54:11-!- Unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 09:54:16-!- Unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20081213 10:00:24-!- aanderse [n=aanderse@CPE001b11cc67d3-CM0019475d7f5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 10:03:14-!- mameluke [n=bo@234-0.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 10:03:14-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv5403990A.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:06:03-!- masa_edw [n=masa@i118-20-94-237.s05.a013.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:07:23-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-6-96.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:08:34-!- uzsolt_ [n=uzsolt@catv540398C9.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:11:05-!- mameluke [n=bo@227-127.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:19:02-!- bihu_ [n=gecko@211.144.106.133] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:22:40-!- mameluke [n=bo@227-127.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 10:23:31-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv5403990A.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 10:38:37-!- Behl [n=tobizaz@3510ds4-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 10:55:29-!- Unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 11:04:49-!- matthewt [i=matthew@namibia.aviation.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 11:04:59< matthewt> hi, how do I ignore people who are whispering me 20081213 11:05:05< matthewt> got a whole gang of them harrassing me now 20081213 11:08:02< voris> in preferences -> multiplayer you can click the friends list button 20081213 11:08:09< voris> and add their nicks as ignores 20081213 11:08:17< matthewt> thanks 20081213 11:08:42< voris> np 20081213 11:12:27-!- krt_ [n=krt@dslb-088-066-022-083.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 11:13:19-!- krt [n=krt@dslb-088-066-023-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081213 11:14:32-!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe9ff800-215.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 11:15:14-!- Dragonking [n=dk@dedikerad/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 11:21:37< matthewt> it's amazing how you can predict the quality of the game by the number of responses you get to saying "good luck everyone" 20081213 11:27:47-!- cib0 [n=cib@p4FD0DEF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 11:33:58-!- cib0 [n=cib@p4FD0DEF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 11:52:45-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 12:26:02-!- uzsolt_ is now known as uzsolt 20081213 13:00:31-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20081213 13:00:48-!- BenUrban_ [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 13:01:23-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 13:12:30-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv540398C9.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 13:17:43-!- amnay [n=amnay@41.249.42.188] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 13:25:19< Rhonda> Hopefully the wiki is savely restored now. 20081213 13:25:58< voris> Hooray! 20081213 13:29:01< VurtualRuler98> Back to creating 5 suicidal men on horses a turn, every turn, to suppliment an army of 50 or so. 20081213 13:29:52< VurtualRuler98> Just holding the leader hostage until they become suicidal(AI won't do that, though), and kill all their men and wait 20081213 13:30:38-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 13:34:13< amnay> 50 ? 20081213 13:34:24< amnay> that must be tiring to manage 20081213 13:35:20< VurtualRuler98> No 20081213 13:35:22< VurtualRuler98> just hit 60 20081213 13:35:27< VurtualRuler98> I can't stop laughing at how stupid this is 20081213 13:35:40< VurtualRuler98> a bunch of dudes on horseback going through a forest, just because there's one unit left 20081213 13:35:55< VurtualRuler98> and then the random name generator names the elder wose...bumbum. 20081213 13:36:03< VurtualRuler98> anticlimactic 20081213 13:36:09< matthewt> wii VurtualRuler98 20081213 13:36:13< matthewt> whoops 20081213 13:42:45< VurtualRuler98> Game probably lasted 40 turns 20081213 13:42:50< VurtualRuler98> It is now almost 6AM 20081213 13:42:53< VurtualRuler98> I started at 11PM 20081213 13:42:57< VurtualRuler98> how 20081213 13:48:22< grzywacz> ?;] 20081213 13:58:35-!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 13:59:09-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@CPE-124-185-39-152.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 20081213 14:09:33-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 14:11:37< amnay> :D bumbum 20081213 14:12:04< amnay> hey 20081213 14:12:12< amnay> you re really into it 20081213 14:31:58-!- cib0 [n=cib@p4FD0DEF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 14:37:53-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20081213 14:41:03-!- lizard_r [n=MirandaM@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 14:42:58< cib0> gosh, it's hard finding a game 20081213 14:43:08< grzywacz> cib0, ;-) 20081213 14:43:52< cib0> and while i said this, 3 people joined my game o.o 20081213 14:48:58-!- halifix [n=halifix@adsl-69-109-168-163.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 15:03:32-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@cpe-71-67-100-73.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 15:05:36-!- e7th04sh [i=e7th04sh@62.61.58.183] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 15:45:42-!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 15:50:17< e7th04sh> JW in his How To Play series says, that ghoul is poorly spent money, when vs drakes... I feel that poison is very useful against heavy drakes, which either have to return to village (one heavy attack less, help in retreats) or stay on the battlefield just to later heal for much longer... or get killed easier. A carefully protected ghoul can poison 2-3 drakes, with an adept ready to finish them if enemy gets careless. 20081213 15:50:57< matthewt> I concur 20081213 15:51:00< e7th04sh> The other usefullnes of such poisoning might be preventing a daylight onslaught. 20081213 15:52:14< Soliton> drakes have augurs to prevent poison from taking effect. 20081213 15:52:37< Soliton> and can relatively easily level it to a curer. 20081213 15:54:18< e7th04sh> hm... well then i guess ghoul is not realy good purchase for 1st turn, but it could be good tactic if enemy has only 1 augur, to let him push you closer to your keep and then assasinate healer. 20081213 15:54:32< matthewt> it's not always possible or preferable to keep an augur next to your heavy drakes at all times 20081213 15:56:21< Soliton> who's carefully protecting the ghoul anyway? :-) 20081213 15:56:41< e7th04sh> you know, i am totally a beginner, so i have no idea why would itb e funny :p 20081213 15:56:58< e7th04sh> but if ghoul is a strategic unit, then i would cover him with a skelly at least 20081213 15:58:00< Soliton> the skeleton dies easily against a burner. 20081213 15:58:16< matthewt> but ghouls don't 20081213 15:58:19< Soliton> the point is that the ghouls *is* your best defensive unit. 20081213 15:58:32< e7th04sh> oh :D 20081213 15:58:39< Soliton> exactly why you don't protect them. they protect the others. 20081213 15:59:59< e7th04sh> i will playtest my strategy for a few times, when i get the ocassion (... undead vs drakes and good situation... it might taske some time to have played a few such mathces) 20081213 16:00:40< e7th04sh> if ghoul needs not a lot of protection, i will just have to make sure he can always poison someone + i could position units in a manner that he can't get ZoC'ed 20081213 16:01:46-!- mameluke [n=bo@159-107.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:04:53< e7th04sh> what would be a target player for BfW? a person that the game is meant to be appealing most to? 20081213 16:05:16-!- BenUrban_ [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20081213 16:09:52-!- mapar007 [n=chatzill@d54C3F9FA.access.telenet.be] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:10:05-!- mapar007 [n=chatzill@d54C3F9FA.access.telenet.be] has left #wesnoth [] 20081213 16:10:57-!- dk_ [n=dk@chello084010045237.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:11:01< Soliton> people who like startegy games and appreciate non-determinism? 20081213 16:11:08-!- dk_ [n=dk@chello084010045237.chello.pl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 16:12:15-!- Dragonking [n=dk@dedikerad/dragonking] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081213 16:13:19< voris> heh 20081213 16:15:04 * voris hears the echoes of zillions of "wtf is with this !#@$#ing luck bs?!" posts in the second half of that answer... 20081213 16:17:07< e7th04sh> :D 20081213 16:17:22< e7th04sh> hah, i meant something more specific, like avarage age? 20081213 16:17:59-!- mameluke [n=bo@159-107.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 16:20:00< Soliton> able-to-reason age? 20081213 16:20:31< cib0> lol 20081213 16:21:17 * voris is personally aware of people from ages 10 to 60 who are enjoying the game. 20081213 16:22:49< e7th04sh> oh my, i am the last person you have to explain that people differ, but then there is average age isn't there? 20081213 16:23:29< Soliton> but the game is not designed with a specific age group in mind. 20081213 16:24:05< Soliton> if you had left out the "meant to" in your question that would change things... 20081213 16:24:43< e7th04sh> ok, let's cross that out 20081213 16:25:02< e7th04sh> by the way i am playing 1.5.6 with a friend and we have probably encountered a bug (unless he screwed something on his side) 20081213 16:25:15< Soliton> there is a thread about how old wesnoth players are in the forum, i think. 20081213 16:25:32< e7th04sh> let me rephrase it again, then 20081213 16:25:37-!- lizard_r [n=MirandaM@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has quit ["I'm gone, but the Saurians will last."] 20081213 16:25:41< AI0867> a reasonable guess would be around 20 20081213 16:26:06< e7th04sh> at what age people are really understanding and enjoying the game for what it is, not what they think it is 20081213 16:26:07< e7th04sh> ;] 20081213 16:26:36< Soliton> a brutal simulation of war? 20081213 16:26:48< e7th04sh> kinda 20081213 16:27:27< e7th04sh> anyways, we are playing UDvsUD on den of onis through official 1.5.6 lobby 20081213 16:28:02-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:28:03< e7th04sh> and he says he can recruit my units - i received soon a prompt that he is doing illegal moves, which are removed since he is not a current player 20081213 16:28:24< Soliton> he's observer or player? 20081213 16:28:27< e7th04sh> player 20081213 16:28:35< e7th04sh> it is first turn 20081213 16:28:50< e7th04sh> i am red, first, south and he ofcoz the other 20081213 16:28:58< Soliton> there is a bug currently which allows observers to move units. 20081213 16:29:20< Soliton> maybe it's similar for players in the first turn (when they did not get a turn themselves yet). 20081213 16:30:09< Soliton> unfortunately this will now cause OOS since he moved the unit but your client never got the move. 20081213 16:30:27< Soliton> easiest would be for him to leave and rejoin. 20081213 16:32:37-!- udi86 [n=udi@3e44be37.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:32:41< e7th04sh> we decided to recreate, this time he will host it 20081213 16:37:11-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv540398C9.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:42:26-!- fendrin_ [n=fabi@g227016006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081213 16:48:29-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:52:08-!- udi86 [n=udi@3e44be37.adsl.enternet.hu] has left #wesnoth ["Távozom"] 20081213 16:52:54-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.217] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 16:55:17< e7th04sh> which undead counters wolf rider? 20081213 16:56:05-!- aanderse [n=aanderse@CPE001b11cc67d3-CM0019475d7f5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 17:02:46< AI0867> e7th04sh: wolf riders only have 2 things going for them: high movement and 3 attacks 20081213 17:03:11< AI0867> they don't do much damage 20081213 17:03:57< AI0867> so if they become annoying, ZoC them with ghosts so they can't run and then tear them apart 20081213 17:09:27< e7th04sh> ha! thats what i've done, i am just thinking of throwing one da there instead of mainline battle (den of onis, you can imagine) 20081213 17:09:31< e7th04sh> it shall take me a village 20081213 17:09:46 * matthewt fries e7th04sh in butter 20081213 17:13:19-!- mameluke [n=bo@159-107.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 17:15:01< e7th04sh> damn i lost it :( 20081213 17:15:17-!- PeterSP|Away is now known as PeterSP 20081213 17:15:17< e7th04sh> i tried to make him put all effort in killing leader - but he was lucky and actually killed him 20081213 17:15:46< e7th04sh> also... my two ghould both one time missed all hits and did not poisonanyone... 20081213 17:15:51< e7th04sh> and he hardly missed any hit 20081213 17:17:44-!- mameluke [n=bo@159-107.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 20081213 17:28:35< e7th04sh> hmmm... if i encounter out of sync in 1.5.6 can i perhaps report it somewhere, so it can be checked for bugs? 20081213 17:30:03< Soliton> if you have a way to reproduce it, sure. bugs.wesnoth.org 20081213 17:32:45< e7th04sh> no idea, it was out of sync during teamplay in the valley 20081213 17:33:44< Soliton> yeah.. that's not really helpful unfortunately. 20081213 17:34:46< e7th04sh> guess so 20081213 17:38:56< matthewt> hmm, this orc grunt's name is almost as funny as bumbum's: Pigdish :( 20081213 17:39:27-!- TheMasterOfBattl [n=chatzill@c-98-204-148-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 17:40:46-!- TheMasterOfBattl [n=chatzill@c-98-204-148-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20081213 17:41:06-!- TheMasterOfBattl [n=chatzill@c-98-204-148-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 17:41:31< e7th04sh> :D 20081213 17:41:47-!- amnay [n=amnay@41.249.42.188] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 17:43:13-!- TheMasterOfBattl [n=chatzill@c-98-204-148-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20081213 17:51:06-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 18:02:09-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@moinmoin/developer/karol] has quit [":wq"] 20081213 18:07:38-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 18:25:42-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 18:27:19-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 18:32:46-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 18:38:11-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.143.9] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 18:41:22-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv540398C9.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 18:41:45-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv540398C9.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 18:42:38-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20081213 18:45:54-!- lizard_r [n=MirandaM@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 18:48:49< e7th04sh> http://www.ankieterka.pl/ankieta/509 excuse me, but if anyone of you have two or three spare mouselicks, 20081213 18:49:10< e7th04sh> there is a poll there, one girl asked me to get it some attraction :/ 20081213 18:49:18-!- Unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has left #wesnoth ["Ex-Chat"] 20081213 18:49:29< e7th04sh> so it's about christmass trees - natural, from forest or the syntetic ones 20081213 18:49:54< e7th04sh> the poll is to the right and pretty big, you'll be able to figure which option is for natural (it's polish language site) 20081213 19:06:32-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 19:13:52< e7th04sh> and i am not suggesting this option :D 20081213 19:15:17< matthewt> sure 20081213 19:15:29< matthewt> anything for a fellow struggler trying to impress a girl 20081213 19:22:43< e7th04sh> :D 20081213 19:23:19< e7th04sh> whole thing is about attraction ;) 20081213 19:25:13-!- PeterSP is now known as PeterSP|Away 20081213 19:25:18< Ken_Oh> hey zoo, are you around? 20081213 19:25:36< Ken_Oh> i was wondering how you made the player units automatically move at the start of the scenario of BoL. i'm looking at the code but i can't figure it out. 20081213 19:26:09< zookeeper> goto_x and goto_y 20081213 19:26:52< zookeeper> have you played it much with 1.5.6? 20081213 19:27:20< Ken_Oh> BoL? just a little 20081213 19:27:27< zookeeper> any bugs :)? 20081213 19:27:48< Ken_Oh> hehe. nothing more than what i noted earlier 20081213 19:28:28 * zookeeper doesn't remember what it was 20081213 19:28:34< Ken_Oh> i'm sure those will come rolling in when turnk goes mainline 20081213 19:28:49< Ken_Oh> you fixed it, it was something about lightning not working 20081213 19:29:18< zookeeper> ah, that. ok 20081213 19:29:42< zookeeper> see, i haven't really taken a look at it in a while, so i was just curious whether there was anything important i should be fixing. 20081213 19:31:12< Ken_Oh> actually, i didn't mention the griffon encounter not working right because i didn't test it out more. i got the egg and put it back but the griffon didn't tell me anything 20081213 19:31:38< zookeeper> how long ago was that? 20081213 19:32:00< Ken_Oh> right after you ported it to 1.5 20081213 19:32:18< zookeeper> right. then i'll assume i fixed it already ;) 20081213 19:32:45< Ken_Oh> ok, i'll see about testing it maybe next week, thanks for WML info. cya. 20081213 19:34:00-!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 19:41:23-!- ettin_ [n=jorda@102.206.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 19:48:36-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-138-211-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20081213 19:51:57-!- aanderse [n=aanderse@CPE001b11cc67d3-CM0019475d7f5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 19:53:53-!- ettin [n=jorda@145.207.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 20:14:23-!- ypnos [i=sijojord@faui06.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20081213 20:20:31-!- fendrin_ [n=fabi@e179059235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 20:23:54-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 20081213 20:44:32-!- masa_edw [n=masa@i118-20-94-237.s05.a013.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [] 20081213 20:46:12-!- bhagabhi [n=bhagabhi@h97n1c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 20:50:16< matthewt> feeding is useless 20081213 20:50:59 * Soliton watches matthewt starve. 20081213 20:51:43 * Ivanovic just had a lovely pizza 20081213 20:52:03< Ivanovic> okay, it was 8pm and my breakfast, but this is IMO okay... 20081213 20:59:36-!- ^Noyga^ [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-39-200.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 21:07:22< e7th04sh> depends how often you do that to your body 20081213 21:07:44< matthewt> i only have pizza for breakfast when i'm hungover 20081213 21:07:50< matthewt> so 4-5 times a week max 20081213 21:07:52< e7th04sh> i'm writing a parody of House of the Rising Sun, which would be about the campaing... guess which one? 20081213 21:08:06< e7th04sh> matthewt :D 20081213 21:08:27< e7th04sh> (i will record it and post a link on forums ;p) 20081213 21:08:39< matthewt> cool 20081213 21:09:14< e7th04sh> i am rather average with the guitar, so i guess not as cool as it might sound ;][ 20081213 21:09:39< e7th04sh> i mean it will sound not as good as it sounds :D 20081213 21:09:50< e7th04sh> i think i'll make a riddle of it for the forum topic for Riddles 20081213 21:09:50< matthewt> :P 20081213 21:11:14-!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081213 21:16:00-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-6-96.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 21:18:23-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@moinmoin/developer/karol] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 21:22:19-!- ^Noyga^ is now known as Noyga 20081213 21:23:21< e7th04sh> just anybody who read it, please don't answer ;] 20081213 21:26:11< matthewt> answer what 20081213 21:28:15-!- lizard_r [n=MirandaM@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has quit ["I'm gone, but the Saurians will last."] 20081213 21:29:52< e7th04sh> the riddle - i posted it on the forums 20081213 21:29:59< e7th04sh> hm.. that was funny 20081213 21:30:14< matthewt> url me 20081213 21:30:36-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 21:31:55< e7th04sh> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23228 20081213 21:32:00< e7th04sh> just don't do it :D 20081213 21:51:27-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-202-137.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 21:52:21< [Relic]> Hello :) 20081213 21:52:36< Stealth> privet 20081213 21:53:00< [Relic]> :) 20081213 21:53:00< Stealth> ":)" 20081213 21:53:27-!- noy [n=Noy@70.70.128.133] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 21:54:36< e7th04sh> what's with the ":)"? 20081213 21:54:59-!- PeterSP|Away is now known as PeterSP 20081213 21:59:52-!- unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 22:04:28-!- unnheulu [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20081213 22:05:58-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-180-249.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 22:07:14-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 22:38:01< e7th04sh> you know what i hate? i hatye when a guy does a poor attack... 20081213 22:38:08< e7th04sh> and disconnects soon 20081213 22:38:16< grzywacz> That should result in a perm ban. 20081213 22:38:17< grzywacz> ;-) 20081213 22:38:22< e7th04sh> yeah... 20081213 22:38:38< grzywacz> Does >ignore< prevent people from joining your games? ;-) 20081213 22:38:55< e7th04sh> i can even forgive him, that i am not learnign anything, but if he starts the game and then leaves me withou a chance to pummel his hopeless taskforce...? 20081213 22:39:03< e7th04sh> no idea 20081213 22:39:12< grzywacz> I have to ignore someone and see. :D 20081213 22:39:23< Soliton> no, it doesn't. 20081213 22:39:28< grzywacz> :p 20081213 22:39:41< grzywacz> Soliton, does it display that funny green skull when someone joins, tho? 20081213 22:39:51< Soliton> i think so. 20081213 22:39:54< grzywacz> Good enough. 20081213 22:40:20< e7th04sh> yeah, that should solve the problem... i would rather tough if i could mark "shady players" without ignoring their messages 20081213 22:40:42< grzywacz> I guess that will only make sense in the next stable release... 20081213 22:40:55< grzywacz> Or at least, make more sense. 20081213 22:41:04-!- AI0867 [n=ai@van-gessel.demon.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20081213 22:41:17< e7th04sh> i happen to be polish, so... dlaczego? (po polsku lepiej zrozumiem ;] ) 20081213 22:41:51< Soliton> some more options than friend and ignore would be nice, yes. 20081213 22:42:52< e7th04sh> Alas, i have a semi-solution: add them as... friends :) 20081213 22:43:46-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 22:44:17< grzywacz> How about adding arbitrary notes to nicks? ;-) 20081213 22:44:37< grzywacz> "He likes to play like this and that, and sometimes disconnects after a lousy attack" ;-) 20081213 22:44:53< voris> It does display the poison icon when they join. 20081213 22:45:11< voris> And you do fail to hear anything they're saying if you're silly enough to start the game with them in. :) 20081213 22:45:24< grzywacz> :D 20081213 22:48:01< e7th04sh> grzywacz, go on, instead of buying new refridegerator or sending a kid to private shcool, spend this money on intelligence and security service, that will gather vital information about wesnothian community :] 20081213 22:48:36-!- Shadow_Master [n=shadowm@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20081213 22:49:02< grzywacz> I still wonder who the mysterious 'd' watching all my/our 2vs2 games is 20081213 22:49:14< grzywacz> Given his brilliant timing, probably someone from the lobby channel :P 20081213 22:50:38< e7th04sh> ha! pay me like 30k$ monthly, and i am at your service. 20081213 22:51:01< grzywacz> Prove that you're worth it first. :p 20081213 22:51:02-!- e7th04sh is now known as counter-intellig 20081213 22:51:26< counter-intellig> that's the moment i should tell you something you keep secret ;/ 20081213 22:51:37-!- counter-intellig is now known as e7th04sh 20081213 22:51:51-!- AI0867 [n=ai@van-gessel.demon.nl] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 22:52:31< e7th04sh> i do not need to prove anything to an intelligent person, who you must be, if you use Python mr. Nowak 20081213 22:53:06< grzywacz> Amazing skill, I'm most impressed... 20081213 22:53:08< grzywacz> NOT! 20081213 22:53:12< e7th04sh> :P 20081213 22:53:17< AI0867> did I miss something? 20081213 22:53:19< e7th04sh> i mastered the use of whois command :] 20081213 22:53:29< grzywacz> AI0867, no, just e7th04sh fooling around. 20081213 22:53:31< e7th04sh> that's of course a basic skill here, at our secret agency 20081213 22:53:54< grzywacz> go play uplink ;-) 20081213 22:54:35-!- halifix [n=halifix@adsl-69-109-168-163.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [] 20081213 22:54:40< VurtualRuler98> Someone talkin bout half-life? 20081213 22:54:42< e7th04sh> no thanks i play linksys 20081213 22:54:46< e7th04sh> ;] 20081213 22:54:58< grzywacz> … 20081213 22:56:36< e7th04sh> well i wouldn't describe hackers life as only half of a normal one --- and with this amazingly hilarious setence i finish this spectacle of the deep humor 20081213 22:58:28< VurtualRuler98> You guys need to get out slightly more. 20081213 22:58:36< VurtualRuler98> Or slightly less, I'm not sure. 20081213 22:59:13-!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 22:59:39-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 20081213 22:59:50< grzywacz> I don't know him. ;p 20081213 23:03:32-!- __name__ [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 23:04:33-!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20081213 23:04:39-!- __name__ is now known as name 20081213 23:12:13-!- joey1 [n=joey1@c122-106-24-184.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #wesnoth 20081213 23:13:14< e7th04sh> VurtualRuler98 heard that one before ;p 20081213 23:14:33-!- bhagabhi [n=bhagabhi@h97n1c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Lämnar"] 20081213 23:16:38-!- joey1 [n=joey1@c122-106-24-184.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 20081213 23:19:41-!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20081213 23:23:45-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@Wad54.w.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20081213 23:25:58-!- Espreon [n=Espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 20081213 23:29:17< e7th04sh> i just started interesting game, enemies recruiting patter and positioning seemed totally different to the guy i whined about earlier... but i got segmentation fault on 3 or 4 turn.. 20081213 23:29:53< e7th04sh> it happens on my computer all the time, random processes get segfaults, sometimes firefox crashes and i cant restart it, cause it crashes before anything literally anything happens 20081213 23:29:58< e7th04sh> any idea whats broken on my box? 20081213 23:30:39 * zookeeper shrugs 20081213 23:30:46< Soliton> corrupt memory. 20081213 23:30:58< zookeeper> motherboard or memory would be my guesses, if we'd be looking at hardware problems 20081213 23:31:24< zookeeper> well, i guess not motherboard if it's just random processes 20081213 23:31:57< grzywacz> e7th04sh, memtest it 20081213 23:32:07< e7th04sh> grzywacz i'll do it 20081213 23:32:30< grzywacz> e7th04sh, anything interesting `dmesg` has to say on that, perhaps? 20081213 23:33:41< e7th04sh> dmesg is some unix tool, huh? 20081213 23:33:46< e7th04sh> win xp here 20081213 23:33:50 * e7th04sh is a bit ashamed 20081213 23:33:59< grzywacz> e7th04sh, sorry, I assumed you used linux because you talked about "Segmentation faults". 20081213 23:34:28< grzywacz> I don't recall ever seeing "segmentation fault" (as a verbatim string) on XP ;) 20081213 23:36:03< e7th04sh> oh, i don't need to see it to know what's that lo 20081213 23:36:05< e7th04sh> ;p 20081213 23:36:50< e7th04sh> quick, gimme a safe recruit when i dont know enemy's faction for undead :) 20081213 23:37:24< zookeeper> take one of everything. except a corpse ;) 20081213 23:38:05< e7th04sh> den of onis ;p i took skelly da, ghost and ghoul 20081213 23:41:44< e7th04sh> oh crap oh crap 20081213 23:41:49< e7th04sh> i took da for a mage :D 20081213 23:42:02< e7th04sh> at least i recruited da's and ghouls :/ 20081213 23:43:46-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-39-200.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 20081213 23:50:05-!- noy [n=Noy@70.70.128.133] has quit [] 20081213 23:55:00-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-180-249.vinita.lt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] --- Log closed Sun Dec 14 00:00:15 2008