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20081219 00:04:17< Ken_Oh> does anyone know if/how you can alter unit variables within containers in debug mode? i.e. :unit attack.damage=10
20081219 00:05:45< voris> If you find out how, tell me please.
20081219 00:05:51< voris> I have not been able to make it work.
20081219 00:06:31< Ken_Oh> haha, i bet it's not possible, but i'll be sure to tell you and add it to the wiki if it is
20081219 00:07:08< voris> Interesting. TRANSFORM_UNIT is not in unit-utils.cfg
20081219 00:10:31< fendrin> voris: It's in unit-utils on line 274
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20081219 00:11:36< voris> data/core/macros/unit-utils.cfg
20081219 00:11:37< voris> ?
20081219 00:11:46< voris> Mine stops well short of that line number.
20081219 00:11:54< voris> Perhaps I should download the sources again...
20081219 00:12:13< Ken_Oh> mine goes to 328
20081219 00:12:18< voris> !!!
20081219 00:12:20< Ken_Oh> 1.5.6?
20081219 00:12:26< voris> no
20081219 00:12:29< voris> 1.4.7
20081219 00:12:38< Ken_Oh> oh, couldn't help you then
20081219 00:12:43< voris> Is that a development macro? :)
20081219 00:12:53< voris> That would explain a lot. 
20081219 00:13:28< voris> I guess the Utility macro reference page is run against that. 
20081219 00:15:56< fendrin> voris: that may be. I can't tell you. I have no 1.4 around at the moment.
20081219 00:16:48< voris> Well I just checked against my old 1.4.6 sources that I still had lying around and they don't have it either so I'm going with "it's a dev only macro".
20081219 00:16:49< voris> :)
20081219 00:24:12< fendrin> voris: sounds reasonable
20081219 00:26:58< Ken_Oh> i'm looking at it now, it has to be dev because it has [insert_tag]
20081219 00:27:11< Ken_Oh> and [set_variables]
20081219 00:27:22< Ken_Oh> at least the version i'm looking at anyway
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20081219 00:40:43< voris> aha
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20081219 01:05:46< JonW> Assertion failed!
20081219 01:05:49< JonW> 	Progam:.... \Battle for Wesnoth 1.5.6\wesnoth.exe
20081219 01:05:50< JonW> 	File: src\actions.cpp
20081219 01:05:52< JonW> 	Line: 2551
20081219 01:05:54< JonW> 	Expression: unit_itor !=units.end()
20081219 01:05:56< JonW> 	I am running under windows...
20081219 01:06:38< voris> ERROR 10082: Running under Windows
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20081219 01:22:01< AI0867> JonW: what circumstances?
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20081219 01:25:57< JonW> I get a drawth to move threw the light says he can't pick it up cos not royalty....
20081219 01:25:59< JonW> so goes on to end of his walk then BfW crashes!
20081219 01:26:55< JonW> I have also had it on same mode when its AI turn on other side so I don't think it has anything to do with the light!
20081219 01:27:17< AI0867> drawth?
20081219 01:29:09< JonW> yeah short person!
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20081219 01:34:40< JonW> ok trying to reproduce the bug... but keep trig'n quakes and my Delfore falls into lava! so sn ends :(
20081219 01:34:59< JonW> I take this is suposed to happen?
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20081219 04:37:54< matthew-> lvl0 unit spam is not fun
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20081219 06:48:54< Andrew__> I have a question about the in-game descriptions of units. If you haven't seen a certain unit before, you can't see it's description. Is there a way to turn this off, so I can just see all units descriptions?
20081219 06:49:15< voris> heh
20081219 06:49:27< voris> The only way I know is to modify your preferences file.
20081219 06:49:30< Soliton> when you turn debug mode on you can see all descriptions.
20081219 06:49:39< voris> ah!
20081219 06:49:41< voris> Nice.
20081219 06:49:45< Andrew__> how do I do that?
20081219 06:49:52< Soliton> :debug
20081219 06:49:53< voris> :debug
20081219 06:50:01< Andrew__> just type it ingame?
20081219 06:50:12< Soliton> yes.
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20081219 07:00:43< Andrew__> What else does debug mode do? Allow you to use commands and cheat?
20081219 07:01:30< Soliton> indeed.
20081219 07:03:48< Andrew__> Does it work in multiplayer games?
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20081219 07:07:15< Soliton> no. it'd cause out of sync errors.
20081219 07:07:16< voris> I believe not. If it did you'd generate oos anyway.
20081219 07:10:52< Andrew__> then is there a way to see the whole tech tree in multiplayer?
20081219 07:11:29< Andrew__> what was the deal with the preferences file?
20081219 07:13:54< DDR> You could create any units you were curious about in the debug mode. Then, they'd show up in MP help. I think.
20081219 07:16:04< Andrew__> wouldn't it just be easier to edit the preferences file. If that would work
20081219 07:16:15< Andrew__> but how would you do that?
20081219 07:18:59< Andrew__> or would it be considered cheating?
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20081219 07:22:51< Soliton> there is an encountered_units key in the preferences file that lists encountered units.
20081219 07:26:09< Andrew__> what is the preferences file called and where is it?
20081219 07:32:56< Andrew__> found it
20081219 07:33:12< Andrew__> is there a list of units somewhere other than the tech tree online?
20081219 07:33:18< Andrew__> in a wiki?
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20081219 08:21:33< voris> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=wesnoth+units
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20081219 08:48:50< Elven_> hi everyone
20081219 08:49:32< Elven_> can someone help a little bit? how to write a dialog in WML in two lines? does WML have something like <p> or <br> in HTML?
20081219 08:51:25< zookeeper> foo,bar=valueoffoo,valueofbar
20081219 08:54:12< Elven_> thanks. what is the syntax?
20081219 08:54:20< zookeeper> ..what?
20081219 08:54:40< Elven_> message line 1 "something" message line 2
20081219 08:54:54< zookeeper> ok, i just have no idea what you're talking about. give an example.
20081219 08:57:15< Elven_> Or I will destroy your base, Nerelia the base of your east ally and Merhil... WHAT THE HELL IS THAT RANGER DOING HERE?
20081219 08:57:43< zookeeper> right
20081219 08:57:47< Elven_> that with BIG CHARACTERS i like to do into the second line
20081219 08:57:52< zookeeper> how about using a linebreak?
20081219 08:57:57< zookeeper> you know, press enter and all that
20081219 08:58:11< Elven_> just enter? hehe :D
20081219 08:58:14< Elven_> thanks :D
20081219 08:59:50< Elven_> not working very well :(
20081219 09:00:05< zookeeper> if you want help, ask
20081219 09:00:06< Elven_> it draw unknown characters
20081219 09:00:15< zookeeper> I DON'T READ MINDS
20081219 09:00:34< Elven_> okay, i will post text into pastebin
20081219 09:00:38< zookeeper> awesome.
20081219 09:01:14< Elven_> http://pastebin.com/d58d4f6db
20081219 09:01:52< zookeeper> you really want the third line to start with a hell of a lot of whitespace?
20081219 09:02:26< zookeeper> and maybe you're using tabs and the game doesn't like those.
20081219 09:02:58< Elven_> does not like tabs? okay, i will take care about it. thanks
20081219 09:04:31< Elven_> ok now it works :)
20081219 09:04:41< zookeeper> yeah
20081219 09:05:00< Elven_> btw would you like to test my campaign?
20081219 09:05:12< zookeeper> no
20081219 09:05:43< Elven_> :(
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20081219 09:06:25< Elven_> and one another question - how to start an event after for example 10 turns?
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20081219 09:06:55< zookeeper> nested event, EventWML
20081219 09:37:32< Ivanovic> moin
20081219 10:04:50< Elven_> ehm... can someone help with that event? it do not work :( i am goint to paste some pastebin...
20081219 10:05:06< Elven_> http://pastebin.com/d3d0e56f8
20081219 10:05:49< zookeeper> what do you think i meant with my last comment?
20081219 10:06:06< zookeeper> or, where do you think i meant you should look?
20081219 10:09:57< Elven_> i look at the webpage when I saw that turn... but I have written something bad I think... :(
20081219 10:11:21< Elven_> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/EventWML
20081219 10:11:26< Elven_> dont see any example
20081219 10:11:37< zookeeper> that page also lists every single valid event type there is. there's no name=cavalryman there
20081219 10:12:00< zookeeper> not even in the nested events section?
20081219 10:12:15< Elven_> ehm... found :) i think i am becoming blind...
20081219 10:12:33< Elven_> i am very soory
20081219 10:13:21< Elven_> so i will change name to: name=turn 2
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20081219 16:00:27< Deformative> I just installed wesnoth.
20081219 16:00:28< Deformative> Fun game so far.
20081219 16:00:46< Deformative> I cannot get past the vally of trolls though.
20081219 16:04:48< zookeeper> wesnoth rule #1: whenever giving feedback or asking for help, please specify your wesnoth version.
20081219 16:05:37< zookeeper> (yeah, usually it's the stable version, but sometimes not)
20081219 16:09:03< zookeeper> as for valley of trolls, i guess you should use shamans to slow the trolls and try to keep them in the doorways so that you can't be attacked by more than 1-2 of them at a time.
20081219 16:10:10< AI0867> depends on the difficulty
20081219 16:10:24< AI0867> if you're playing easy, there's so many whelps it's better to draw them out
20081219 16:10:31< AI0867> so they won't constantly block the doorway
20081219 16:11:12< zookeeper> no one has fixed that? i heard people complain about that like at least six months ago.
20081219 16:11:22< AI0867> he may be playing an unfixed version
20081219 16:11:23< AI0867> aka stable
20081219 16:11:35< zookeeper> right, i'd have thought it'd have been ported there
20081219 16:12:07< AI0867> there's a grand total of 4 bugfixes in 1.4.7, which is more than in .6
20081219 16:12:09< AI0867> I doubt it
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20081219 16:14:37< Deformative> wesnoth 1.4.6-1
20081219 16:15:21< Deformative> Erm
20081219 16:15:26< AI0867> debian/ubuntu?
20081219 16:15:28< Deformative> Ignore the -1, that is just the backager.
20081219 16:15:32< Deformative> packager rahter
20081219 16:15:35< Deformative> No, archlinus.
20081219 16:15:39< Deformative> archlinux
20081219 16:15:40< AI0867> k
20081219 16:15:56< AI0867> let's see if the changelog mentions anything
20081219 16:16:32< Deformative> Well, it could just be that I am not very good at the game. :D
20081219 16:17:11< AI0867> nothing in the 1.4 changelog
20081219 16:17:17< AI0867> Deformative: which difficulty are you playing?
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20081219 16:17:51< Deformative> Easy.
20081219 16:18:31< brainfish> !nickserver
20081219 16:19:09< AI0867> checking the 1.4.7 scenario...
20081219 16:19:33< AI0867> yeah, on easy he just recruits whelps
20081219 16:19:45< AI0867> with the same income as on hard, just with 20 starting gold less
20081219 16:20:06< AI0867> stay away from the cave entrances, draw out the whelps and use lots of shamans
20081219 16:20:48< Deformative> Aright.
20081219 16:20:50< Deformative> I will try that.
20081219 16:21:04< Deformative> It's too bad I do not have any higher level shamans from past scenarios.
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20081219 16:21:16< AI0867> yeah, sorceresses would really help
20081219 16:21:22< AI0867> but shamans aren't hard to level
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20081219 16:21:40< AI0867> try to get one here, it'll be useful in scenario 6 or 7
20081219 16:22:29< Deformative> Aright. 
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20081219 16:39:44< Deformative> Not working. :/
20081219 16:41:20< AI0867> =/
20081219 16:41:35< AI0867> try posting a replay on the forum in strategy & tips
20081219 16:42:07< Soliton> after upgrading to 1.4.7...
20081219 16:42:30< Deformative> I could just play a different scenario. ^^
20081219 16:44:16< Deformative> What is dismissing in the recall dialog for?
20081219 16:44:34< zookeeper> cleaning it up
20081219 16:44:57< zookeeper> if you got a lot of useless units with no XP there, you might want to remove them
20081219 16:45:14< Deformative> Oh.
20081219 16:45:32< Deformative> I thought you might get the money back or something.
20081219 16:45:59< zookeeper> nope, it just permanently removes the unit. useful in bigger campaigns where you might have a lot of useless cannon fodder units you'd never really want to recall.
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20081219 17:00:48< AI0867> read: NR
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20081219 19:35:37< Unnheulu> wow lol 
20081219 19:39:47< zookeeper> lulululul.
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20081219 21:08:35< skele> noy, why are you harassing people on the server?
20081219 21:08:56< skele> I've sent wesnoth.org money and time with development.
20081219 21:09:04< skele> and my reward is to be harassed by admins.
20081219 21:09:14< noy> First your game name is inappropriate 
20081219 21:09:16< noy> I told you that clearly
20081219 21:09:30< skele> Dude, you're a tool.  Please restate the name of my game here.
20081219 21:09:33< noy> you didn't listen. Your response was basically "I paid for this I can do what I want"
20081219 21:09:56< skele> First of all, I'm withdrawing all financial support unless you're banned from admin access.
20081219 21:10:10< skele> I spent a lot of money to see that these servers are stable.
20081219 21:10:19< skele> Not to be harassed by power hungry dicks like yourself.
20081219 21:10:24< skele> Nothing I did was offensive.
20081219 21:10:32< Dragonking> skele: I saw everything. You just act like a stupid idiot, so you were treated like one. That's all. 
20081219 21:10:34< noy> Next all you did in your game was call people noobs and berating them. 
20081219 21:11:01< skele> Yep.. calling people noobs is part of ... uh, being online.
20081219 21:11:12< noy> skele: not on our server
20081219 21:11:14< skele> And all those people REJOINED that game...
20081219 21:11:17< skele> must have really hated that abuse.
20081219 21:11:22< skele> All rejoining the game to play again.
20081219 21:11:27< noy> Good to know. 
20081219 21:11:58< skele> Yeah, glad to know you're out the enforcing those rules.  A real effective way to lose financial support and do things that are counterproductive.
20081219 21:12:04< skele> Anyway, later.
20081219 21:12:18< Dragonking> And sending money to wasnoth.org doesn't mean we are going to consider you any better that average user. 
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20081219 21:39:15< [voris]> wow
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20081219 21:39:42< voris> I will never understand people like that.
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20081219 21:46:27< e7th04sh> you know what bugs me? I stopped talking in Communism thread, and there is noone to defend my point, and Thanatos is still there with his opinions >:/
20081219 21:46:58< e7th04sh> but if i stayed there, he wouldn't discuss things with me in a civil manner...
20081219 21:47:16< e7th04sh> perhaps he can't stand so radically different perspective :/
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20081219 21:56:58< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20081219 22:11:32< lizard_r> can I "make install" wesnoth without removing the old version? (I'm new to linux, only used scons once)
20081219 22:13:07< AI0867> you should remove the old one first
20081219 22:13:24< AI0867> the files may have moved a bit, causing duplicates when you install over it
20081219 22:14:17< lizard_r> ok, I'll try it once wesnoth is downloaded
20081219 22:14:48< noy> e7th04sh: meh...
20081219 22:14:55-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.217] has quit ["Leaving"]
20081219 22:15:04< noy> I got in a huge argument with him about European military capabilities
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20081219 22:25:52< [Relic]> When did they get military capability?  :)
20081219 22:29:19< e7th04sh>  wait wait ;p
20081219 22:29:31< e7th04sh> we in Europe have military capabilities
20081219 22:29:57< e7th04sh> it's not our fault that States are overinvesting their army ;p
20081219 22:30:08< voris> amen
20081219 22:30:35< voris> I will be happy when I can stop giving so much of my paycheck to that.
20081219 22:30:40< e7th04sh> anyways, i heard that all top 10 miitaristic countries minus USA have less warfare than USA alone
20081219 22:30:43< [Relic]> just cause they want to put rockets all over the world to protect from some silly terrorist that would blow something up with something a rocket could never touch  :)
20081219 22:30:58< e7th04sh> voris and perhaps even happier when your kids will be forced to learn chinese (simplified)
20081219 22:31:04< [Relic]> USA is just enthusiastic about how they go about it  :)
20081219 22:31:07< voris> Never gonna happen.
20081219 22:31:17< e7th04sh> yeah yeah sure
20081219 22:31:25< voris> Even the Chinese are learning English.
20081219 22:31:29< e7th04sh> just read some newspapers from before 39'
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20081219 22:31:52< [Relic]> you were after the good flash gordon comics  :)
20081219 22:32:04< e7th04sh> :D
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20081219 22:32:34< voris> The aviation industry has done much for the spread of English as a universal language. :)
20081219 22:33:10< e7th04sh> anyways, i would rather if my money wasspent on army, than on social security for people, who are qualified for rent just cause they bribed a doctor
20081219 22:33:15< voris> I don't even have to localize aviation applications because it's simply not allowed.
20081219 22:34:19< voris> hehe
20081219 22:34:36< voris> That's funny. Maybe your country and mine can meet in the middle somewhere on that.
20081219 22:34:52< voris> I'm looking forward to an improved ss safety net here.
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20081219 22:36:19< e7th04sh> i just hope i could meet your contry there, where it is right now... and if you really want, there's no problem your country occupy our current, then empty, position
20081219 22:36:58< grzywacz> wtf?
20081219 22:37:02< e7th04sh> sorry for being so rude ;p it seems we always want what we don;t know how much it sucks
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20081219 22:37:28< voris> Where do you live?
20081219 22:38:13< grzywacz> <trumpets!>
20081219 22:38:23< e7th04sh> Poland
20081219 22:38:27< e7th04sh> </trumpets!>
20081219 22:38:29< voris> Oh, heh, nevermind.
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20081219 22:38:57< grzywacz> Hah, the effect of lameness has been achieved.
20081219 22:39:40< grzywacz> btw. I didn't know you could rent people because they bribed a doctor
20081219 22:39:44< voris> You shouldn't be so hard on the general concept though. Your country would be having troubles no matter what. Soviet rule was a bitch. :)
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20081219 22:40:00< e7th04sh> true
20081219 22:40:51< [Relic]> unfortunately that also uses up and makes it more difficult for those who have a real need
20081219 22:41:20< [Relic]> and it is more a matter of hiring a good lawyer
20081219 22:42:19< voris> It is actually cheaper to prop up a lame parasite than to let them go without medical care. I mean unless you're willing to go back to the days where you literally let them die in the gutter.
20081219 22:42:52< voris> Even then, you're talking about a pretty grim health care issue in disposing of bodies before disease gets rampant.
20081219 22:43:07< voris> Not to get all grim economist on you. ;)
20081219 22:49:18< [Relic]> but it is the lazy parasite that is the problem, the lame one isn't
20081219 22:49:59< voris> s/lame/lazy my statement stands
20081219 22:51:08< voris> Laziness is far less of a problem in practice than people seem to think. Based on the numbers I've seen over the years anyway. Much more difficult is learning how to deal with bipolor and add which account for large numbers of the supposedly lazy.
20081219 22:52:11< voris> And disorders which, as it happens, can offer great benefit to societies that learn how to exploit them. Some of the greatest innovators are found there.
20081219 22:52:33< voris> But they function very poorly in normal societal structures.
20081219 22:52:44< voris> "normal" :)
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20081219 23:06:50< e7th04sh> that would be me, you're speaking of
20081219 23:06:56< e7th04sh> i find it hard to live in this society
20081219 23:07:27< e7th04sh> where everybody cares foir the lazy bastards, but nobody finds it a problem that i hardly managed to not suicide till my 18th birthday, thanks to the same society, and it's educational system
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20081219 23:15:55< lizard_r> I donwnladed wesnoth, but when I try to "make" inside of the download folder it says that it found no >>make<<-file
20081219 23:16:27< lizard_r> do I have to write more than make?
20081219 23:17:03< Soliton> you downloaded a tarball of the source?
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20081219 23:17:24< Soliton> or a checkout from svn?
20081219 23:18:14< lizard_r> yes, tarball and i extracted it
20081219 23:18:47< Soliton> and there is no file called 'Makefile' in the top dir?
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20081219 23:19:02< lizard_r> there is
20081219 23:19:17< lizard_r> makefile.am and makefile.in
20081219 23:19:29< Soliton> so there isn't.
20081219 23:19:42< Soliton> run ./autogen.sh
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20081219 23:20:01< Soliton> what tarball is that exactly?
20081219 23:20:10< lizard_r> 1.4.7
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20081219 23:20:41< lizard_r> rolf@linux-ejmp:~/Download/wesnoth-1.4.7> ./autogen.sh
20081219 23:20:41< lizard_r> bash: ./autogen.sh: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
20081219 23:20:41< grzywacz> ./configure first
20081219 23:21:19< Soliton> uh
20081219 23:21:38< lizard_r> ./autogen.sh still doesn't work
20081219 23:21:42< AI0867> ./autogen.sh is for svn checkouts
20081219 23:21:48< AI0867> for tarballs, use ./configure
20081219 23:22:14< lizard_r> I did, though ther is still no Makefile
20081219 23:22:14< Soliton> oh, you didn't do configure. missed that.
20081219 23:22:31< Soliton> was there an error?
20081219 23:22:55< lizard_r> I don't think so, "graps pastebin"
20081219 23:23:12< lizard_r> aww, there was..
20081219 23:23:22< lizard_r> I'll ock wheather i have that libary
20081219 23:23:52< Soliton> what distribution?
20081219 23:24:32< lizard_r> I had no _devel (using openSuse, 1.4.5)
20081219 23:24:48< lizard_r> 1.4.5 ist newest release on server
20081219 23:25:49< Soliton> ok, maybe they have a way to get the dependencies for a package since they haven't changed since 1.4.5 but i don't know suse.
20081219 23:25:53< lizard_r> it made a makefile, run it now?
20081219 23:25:58< Soliton> yes.
20081219 23:26:35< lizard_r> i rerun with SDL_mixer_devel, only had SDL_mixer before
20081219 23:26:57< lizard_r> that is supposed to take some time, isn't it?
20081219 23:27:04< lizard_r> (the make)
20081219 23:27:11< Soliton> sure.
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20081219 23:42:11< lizard_r> errors would be on the end, wouldn't they? So I now "make instal"
20081219 23:42:45< voris> I recommend "make install"
20081219 23:42:47< voris> :P
20081219 23:43:08< lizard_r> ok
20081219 23:43:14< AI0867> lizard_r: probably "sudo make install" or "su -c 'make install'"
20081219 23:43:23< voris> Oh, point.
20081219 23:44:11< lizard_r> make install thew errors, so i just try sudo make install?
20081219 23:44:16< voris> hehe
20081219 23:44:24< voris> Yeah, the errors are why the sudo
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20081219 23:45:01< voris> er, the errors you got are why you should use sudo.
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20081219 23:45:17< lizard_r> sudo make me a sandwich
20081219 23:45:18< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: G2g soon
20081219 23:45:21< voris> heh
20081219 23:45:29< Unnheulu> Welsh pronounciation doesn't take long to learn
20081219 23:45:42< Unnheulu> you just need to know the basics :P
20081219 23:45:46< thespaceinvader> i know, i've learned it...
20081219 23:45:55< thespaceinvader> the issue is that most people haven't...
20081219 23:46:02< AI0867> lizard_r: "make install" installs to /usr/local, which is owned by root
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20081219 23:46:10< AI0867> so you need 'sudo' to give it permission
20081219 23:46:42< voris> "Proper User Policy apparently means Simon Says."
20081219 23:46:43< lizard_r> sudo asked for rootpass, i gave it was that right?
20081219 23:47:04< AI0867> lizard_r: sudo needs your own pass
20081219 23:47:06< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: How long have you lived in wales?
20081219 23:47:10< Unnheulu> I thought you were english :P
20081219 23:47:15< thespaceinvader> i am
20081219 23:47:22< lizard_r> same anyway..
20081219 23:47:31< voris> *shudder*
20081219 23:47:33< thespaceinvader> i did my first degree in cardiff and i'm back for another
20081219 23:47:36< Unnheulu> Oh
20081219 23:47:44< Unnheulu> You living in wales now or not?
20081219 23:47:49< thespaceinvader> but i learned welsh pronunciation on holidays when i was young
20081219 23:47:50< thespaceinvader> yes
20081219 23:47:57< Unnheulu> cardiff is crowded O.O
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20081219 23:49:11< lizard_r> seems to work, wesnoth runs
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