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20081228 00:13:48< joshudson> about to find out if make -j 2 works for wesnoth
20081228 00:19:08< grzywacz> why would it not work?
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20081228 00:21:26< joshudson> I've seen messed up builddeps in other packages where parallel make didn't work
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20081228 00:34:02< joshudson> no compile game.cpp:1219 res may be uninitalized
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20081228 00:56:39< Ivanovic> n8
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20081228 01:02:43< joshudson> I've been using Glorfindel on the server since 1.0 and somebody else registered it!
20081228 01:09:28< zookeeper> did you try to log in using your forum password?
20081228 01:09:45< joshudson> Somebody else registered Glorfindel on the forums
20081228 01:10:01< zookeeper> ah, ok.
20081228 01:10:16< zookeeper> "Since 1.0 I've been using joshudson here on the forum and Glorfindel on the server."
20081228 01:10:17< zookeeper> "Now somebody registered Glorfindel on the server and I cannot use it."
20081228 01:10:29< joshudson> yup
20081228 01:10:31< zookeeper> you kinda said the exact opposite there.
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20081228 01:10:39< zookeeper> oh.
20081228 01:10:47< zookeeper> nevermind, now i got it. i think.
20081228 01:13:22< joshudson> so now what?
20081228 01:15:20< zookeeper> Joined:  	Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:24 am
20081228 01:15:25< zookeeper> Last visited:  	Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:35 pm
20081228 01:15:38< zookeeper> i guess you could ask a forum admin to delete that account, has 0 posts too so no harm done.
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20081228 01:22:20< cyberix> I did not mean to set a round limit for multiplayer game, but I did
20081228 01:22:27< cyberix> Is there a way to reverse this?
20081228 01:23:53< joshudson> only by saving, hacking save file, and reloading :(
20081228 01:25:41< cyberix> bugger
20081228 01:25:48< cyberix> saving multiplayer games is tricky
20081228 01:26:36< joshudson> I usually just pick up the autosaves
20081228 01:29:30< joshudson> hmmm, now how to update wml for my campaign
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20081228 01:31:16< joshudson> what's it mean unknown unit type '' while generating traits?
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20081228 01:36:25< cyberix> %¤#%"¤#%"#¤&
20081228 01:36:32< cyberix> I made the same mistake again
20081228 01:37:17< Blueblaze> DDR, did you ever make a forum post?
20081228 01:39:27< Blueblaze> Concerning the mmo project
20081228 01:48:36< joshudson> Gak, is [filter] on description= just not working?
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20081228 02:32:18< Blueblaze> DDR!
20081228 02:42:48< DDR> Blueblaze!
20081228 02:45:00< DDR> Bluebalse: Sorry, I was busy for a half-hour there.
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20081228 02:45:26< DDR> *Blueblaze
20081228 02:46:03< DDR> I did, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23412&sid=d815a967315adb6e71337a2ed634c643
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20081228 03:02:29< DDR> gotta run, dinner. ;)
20081228 03:16:30< DDR> Blueblaze: Poke.
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20081228 03:59:30< Blueblaze> o
20081228 03:59:32< Blueblaze> I gotta take nap
20081228 03:59:33< Blueblaze> tired
20081228 03:59:37< Blueblaze> DDR, I'll talk to you later
20081228 03:59:44< Blueblaze> took some medication that's about to knock me out
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20081228 04:10:54< Shadow_Master> anyone here has an account on ubuntuforums ?
20081228 04:11:27< Shadow_Master> where are the Ubuntu users when ou need'em :)
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20081228 04:38:00< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20081228 04:46:35< Shadow_Master> [Relic]: do you use Ubuntu?
20081228 05:04:04< DDR> I use ubuntu. or so it says in my version info.
20081228 05:04:31< Shadow_Master> but, do you have n ccount on ubuntuforums? 
20081228 05:04:40< DDR> No.
20081228 05:04:47< Shadow_Master> (and I actually don't believe you, bandwidth exploiter).
20081228 05:05:09 * Shadow_Master throws a thick log at DDR 
20081228 05:05:14< DDR> (How do I expolit band width?)
20081228 05:05:22< Shadow_Master> you tell me.
20081228 05:05:59< Shadow_Master> ("ConquistadorEs".... grrrrrrr) 
20081228 05:06:24< DDR> Videos are a perfectly good use of bandwidth.
20081228 05:06:45< Shadow_Master> yeah, but I hate it when people upload huge things to a repository for nothing
20081228 05:06:58< DDR> There are only 10 images for that.
20081228 05:07:01< Shadow_Master> your didn't even bother finish your add-on? 
20081228 05:07:11< DDR> I kinda forgot about it.
20081228 05:07:33< Shadow_Master> I don't like to remove things from the SVN, but I don't like to have abandoned add-ons there either.
20081228 05:07:40< DDR> Nah, but the player remains. I am planning to use it now.
20081228 05:07:51< DDR> And I need to d/l it to my comp.
20081228 05:07:52< Shadow_Master> abandoned as in "the author didn't even bother publish a roadmap for its development" 
20081228 05:08:24< DDR> Was going to be a campaign, them my creative juices died for a few months.
20081228 05:08:27< Shadow_Master> I'll make sure your add-on will never work again with vanilla Wesnoth :) 
20081228 05:08:45< Shadow_Master> and if not me, someone else will introduce optimizations to the render engine that will breaker your thingy.
20081228 05:09:03< DDR> It is perfectly legal halos.
20081228 05:09:04< Shadow_Master> because, optimizations are really needed. and your use case is .... 
20081228 05:09:19< DDR> Null.
20081228 05:09:32< Shadow_Master> DDR: yeah, but you don't know how it affects performance
20081228 05:09:40< Shadow_Master> huge bitblt.  *blargh* 
20081228 05:09:52< Shadow_Master> and then, huge rect update. *double arfhg* 
20081228 05:09:56< DDR> It's only 10 picts and some text...
20081228 05:10:01< DDR> brb
20081228 05:10:12< Shadow_Master> the whole idea of the rendering engine is to update as little as possible inthe backing frame buffer
20081228 05:10:29< Shadow_Master> otherwise we would have started using OPenGL  long ago...
20081228 05:11:36< DDR> What's the backing frame buffer?
20081228 05:12:00< Shadow_Master> a framebuffer we use in CVideo.
20081228 05:12:15< DDR> Well... I could optimise it by using lower quality images and smaller images...
20081228 05:12:19< Shadow_Master> it is from where screen updates are loaded onto the real framebuffer
20081228 05:12:40< DDR> But I think I see what you mean, Wesnoth was never intended for video playback.
20081228 05:12:48< Shadow_Master> exactly.
20081228 05:13:02< Shadow_Master> for video playback you'd better be using something that porvides rendering acceleration
20081228 05:13:14< Shadow_Master> we don't even use hardware SDL surfaces because they cause problem on some platforms
20081228 05:13:52< DDR> Hm, that explaing the 10 FPS it runs at.
20081228 05:13:57< Shadow_Master> apparently due to DirectDraw's braind-dead idea of screen updaes.
20081228 05:14:11< DDR> Oh, before you delete it, let me download it again.
20081228 05:14:20< Shadow_Master> I have read that if you switch away, DirectDraw discards the framebuffer contents
20081228 05:14:38< Shadow_Master> of course that does not happen on Lnux. but hardware surfaces would be little or no gain with the usual X servers
20081228 05:14:38< DDR> O_o
20081228 05:15:10< Shadow_Master> I suppose that Xgl would be candidate to the exception list. I don't know much of it, but I have read it uses opengl for *everything* 
20081228 05:15:39< Shadow_Master> that is sweet if you can spend money on an NVIdia or suchlike
20081228 05:15:53< Shadow_Master> anyway, yeah, damn Windows
20081228 05:16:23< Shadow_Master> although I suppose we could force SDL to use GDI directly on Windows. NOt that it would be a gain; GDI doesn't know of hardware acceleration.
20081228 05:16:35< DDR> :/
20081228 05:16:47< Shadow_Master> so yeah, forget about any amount of rendering acceleration by hardware on Wesnoth :p
20081228 05:16:52< [Relic]> :)
20081228 05:17:08< DDR> Such is the price we pay for being cross-platform.
20081228 05:17:13< Shadow_Master> (and to the people who don't know, GDI is just like X's rendering library)
20081228 05:17:23< Shadow_Master> (messy, obscure and difficult to learn)
20081228 05:17:34< Shadow_Master> low-level stuff ftw
20081228 05:17:35< DDR> As opposed the the NOD library?
20081228 05:18:31< DDR> (Makes sense if you've ever played Command & Conquer)
20081228 05:18:42< DDR> (though not much, I'll grant)
20081228 05:18:52< Shadow_Master> :\
20081228 05:19:08< DDR> There were the opponents of GDI..
20081228 05:19:19< DDR> Their opposites.
20081228 05:19:24< Shadow_Master> .
20081228 05:19:36< Shadow_Master> GDI= Graphics Devices Interface
20081228 05:19:36< DDR> So, if GDI is bad, NOD must be good.
20081228 05:19:46< DDR> Ah, I did not know.
20081228 05:19:56< Shadow_Master> it provides the lower level drawing and rendering (even printing) routines on indows
20081228 05:20:15< Shadow_Master> (it even provides the whole user mode graphical control in Win9X!) 
20081228 05:20:33< DDR> Hm... wow.
20081228 05:20:45< DDR> WINE emulates that?
20081228 05:20:45< Shadow_Master> in WinNT 4 up to Win2003, the lowest level drawing and rendering routiens are part of win32k.syst
20081228 05:20:50< Shadow_Master> that is, kernel mode driver.
20081228 05:20:56< Shadow_Master> DDR: most of it, yes
20081228 05:21:19< DDR> I take it that the bit that's not 'most' is why nothing runs in WINE?
20081228 05:21:28< Shadow_Master> although I always complaina bou t how slow the GDI routines are win WINE
20081228 05:21:47< Shadow_Master> it is even worse in ReactOS, or the last version I tried.
20081228 05:21:59< Shadow_Master> a SVN snapshot of Novermber 2006 IIRC.
20081228 05:22:03< DDR> WINE runs wesnoth, nice for me as I never was able to compile Wesnoth for myself. :(
20081228 05:22:15< Shadow_Master> DDR: apt-get build-dep wesnoth
20081228 05:22:34< DDR> That'll get it from the respitory, right?
20081228 05:22:37< Shadow_Master> (apt-get install build-essentials  to start with)
20081228 05:22:48< Shadow_Master> DDR: it'll get the required libraries and their -dev packages
20081228 05:22:58< DDR> Hm, OK.
20081228 05:23:19< Shadow_Master> and you could always go the hand-made way
20081228 05:23:31< Shadow_Master> apt-get install libcairo-something-dev , etc.
20081228 05:23:56< Shadow_Master> or us aptitude or synaptic if you prefer a full-featured user interface. why do you complain so much? :| 
20081228 05:24:02< DDR> I just want the Dev version so I can use formula-WML
20081228 05:24:23< DDR> I want to desing WML-based encryption scheme based on plain text.
20081228 05:24:24< Shadow_Master> I take it as you don't even know how to use a package manager
20081228 05:24:36< DDR> I use it, yes... but not well I suspect.
20081228 05:24:42< Shadow_Master> I answer: RTFM.
20081228 05:25:22< Shadow_Master> I am not going to delete your add-on, btw.
20081228 05:25:30< DDR> Thanks, I need to download it.
20081228 05:25:41< Shadow_Master> I just said that it is an annoying  waste of space that you won't recover deleting it
20081228 05:25:46< DDR> I want to re-write it using formula-WML.
20081228 05:26:04< Shadow_Master> because, you know: SVN keeps full data revisions history
20081228 05:26:05< DDR> I have devoted the past 1/2 year to learning blender...
20081228 05:26:17< DDR> so that I can make a bloody movie clip for it.
20081228 05:26:36< Shadow_Master> so deleting something in SVN just hides it from your view. It will still remain in the database using a good deal of space.
20081228 05:26:42< DDR> I'm looking at another 1/2 year for pro looking stuff.
20081228 05:26:50< Shadow_Master> specially JPEGs and PNGs, since they won't compress well
20081228 05:27:01< DDR> Delete the history of it too? Can't do that?
20081228 05:27:11< Shadow_Master> If I was the superadmin, of course.
20081228 05:27:21< Shadow_Master> but it may have nasty sideffects, besides the ethic ones.
20081228 05:27:39< DDR> Heh, no worries. I never did sound the sound synch issues.
20081228 05:27:42< Shadow_Master> (the superadmins are the SF.net staff)
20081228 05:27:48< DDR> Somewhere, my math is off by 10% or so.
20081228 05:28:05 * Shadow_Master s2ram ! stop trying to stop me !
20081228 05:28:23< DDR> ??
20081228 05:28:34< Shadow_Master> RTFM.
20081228 05:28:47< Shadow_Master> man 8 s2ram
20081228 05:29:08< DDR> I didn't know there was a manual for s2ram.
20081228 05:29:23< DDR> Well, no I do.
20081228 05:29:26< DDR> *now
20081228 05:29:37< DDR> I need to recognise it as software for me to man it.
20081228 05:30:45< DDR> and it turns out there is not.
20081228 05:32:18< DDR> (Oh, Shadow_Master, if you thought that was bad wait for it.)
20081228 05:33:25< DDR> (I am NOT done with Conquistadore.)
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20081228 06:07:12< Shadow_Master> Conquistadore????
20081228 06:07:26< Shadow_Master> now that sounds like the lowest-class Chilean dialect
20081228 06:07:39< Shadow_Master> and by lowest class I mean a dialect used by criminals et al.
20081228 06:08:05< Shadow_Master> heretic.
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20081228 06:23:53< Shadow_Master> DDR:  read the logs
20081228 06:24:21< DDR> ... OK
20081228 06:24:29< Shadow_Master> see the topic to find them
20081228 06:24:53< Shadow_Master> or be a lazy boy and go directl here: http://wesnoth.debian.net/%23wesnoth-2008-12-28.log  and see the messages I left in between your part and join
20081228 06:25:17< Shadow_Master> you are certainly violating a nice language.
20081228 06:27:28< DDR> I misspelled it... been a few months since I've seen the word.
20081228 06:27:40< Shadow_Master>  get this through your head:
20081228 06:28:03< Shadow_Master> if you are going to use a foreign word as the title of a thingy, spell it correctly
20081228 06:28:09< DDR> no 'e'?
20081228 06:28:27< Shadow_Master> *Con*quis*ta*do*res* 
20081228 06:28:35< Shadow_Master> learn Spanish or get rid of that ***** title
20081228 06:29:17< DDR> s in not plural for that word?\
20081228 06:29:18< Shadow_Master> Conquistador: singular (masculine). Conquistadora: singular (femenine)
20081228 06:29:37< Shadow_Master> Conquistadores: plural(masculine). Conquistadoras: plura(femenine).
20081228 06:29:46< Shadow_Master> I am sure you can discover a pattern in there.
20081228 06:30:11< Shadow_Master> and, it was you who said "Conquistadore" in the first place.
20081228 06:30:37< DDR> I think that was just me misspelling the word.
20081228 06:30:42< DDR> Sorry...
20081228 06:31:05< DDR> I missed the s.
20081228 06:31:28< DDR> I often do not proof-read what I type here, you know.
20081228 06:31:48 * Shadow_Master off
20081228 06:31:55< Shadow_Master> for a few mintutes
20081228 06:31:56< DDR> bye
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20081228 07:01:23< Blueblaze> Hey
20081228 07:02:06< Blueblaze> DDR, here?
20081228 07:03:06< Blueblaze> Tell me what decisions you've made based on the forum posts? (if any)
20081228 07:06:45< Shadow_Master> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-ar5007-wireless-with-madwifi-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html .... sudo reboot ???? 
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20081228 07:07:06< Shadow_Master> a modprobe followed by a reboot? that doesn't make sense.
20081228 07:08:06< Shadow_Master> seriously, the Ubuntu people are weird :/ 
20081228 07:35:57< DDR> Blueblaze: None.
20081228 07:40:48< Blueblaze> DDR, okay :P
20081228 07:40:57< Blueblaze> So have you done anything to the progress of the project yet?
20081228 07:41:44< DDR> I made a folder. Then watched some Corner Gas. Then made a licence in said folder. No.
20081228 07:42:40< DDR> Now I am reading back issues of the RISKS digest.
20081228 07:43:49< Blueblaze> Corner Gas?
20081228 07:45:55< DDR> Comedy show here.
20081228 07:46:06< DDR> We got a box set for christmas.
20081228 07:48:58< DDR> Also spent a few min being chewed out by shadow_master for forgetting an 's'.
20081228 07:53:00< Shadow_Master> I am Shadow_Master , not shadow_master.
20081228 07:55:02< DDR> *S
20081228 07:55:13< DDR> *M too.
20081228 07:55:51< Shadow_Master> I need to get some rage outta my body since I cannot get Internet to work via WLAN with Debian lenny on the new laptop
20081228 07:56:14< Shadow_Master> and the Internet is bloated with Ubuntu-centric guides containing outdated, bogus or completely ridiculous instructions
20081228 07:56:26< Shadow_Master> the best of them:  sudo modprobe ath_pci     usdo reboot
20081228 07:56:40< Shadow_Master> *sudo
20081228 07:58:30< Shadow_Master> I mean, I understand the reasons for rebooting. But modprobe hust before rebooting.... let's cat /proc/kcore too <rolls eyes>
20081228 08:01:13< DDR> Good luck...
20081228 08:03:02< Shadow_Master> I do not use Ubuntu, so your bad energy doesn't affect me
20081228 08:04:49< DDR> kubuntu, to be specific.
20081228 08:05:21< Shadow_Master> the same thing
20081228 08:20:57< DDR> It tries to blind me before the ubuntu interface kicks in. Not nice. Ubuntu nice...
20081228 08:21:09< DDR> I wanted a windows computer, you know.
20081228 08:49:35< Blueblaze> goodnight
20081228 08:53:19< DDR> goodnight, Blueblaze.
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20081228 10:37:49< Ivanovic> moin
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20081228 12:08:33< Elven_> hello everyone
20081228 12:08:43< Elven_> can someone help with deaths macro?
20081228 12:09:09< Elven_> i copied the /utils/deaths.cfg from son of the black eye and modified it
20081228 12:09:14< Elven_> but it is not working :(
20081228 12:09:41< Elven_> http://pastebin.com/d1a5574e8
20081228 12:10:04< Elven_> and this is in the scenario:     {@campaigns/Metamorphosis/utils/deaths.cfg}
20081228 12:12:47< Elven_> zookeeper: hi
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20081228 12:25:22< Elven_> Elvish_Pillager: hi. can you help?
20081228 12:25:34< Elvish_Pillager> err
20081228 12:25:38< Elvish_Pillager> what do you need help with?
20081228 12:25:52< Elven_> i copied the /utils/deaths.cfg from son of the black eye and modified it
20081228 12:25:56< Elven_> but it is not working :(
20081228 12:26:00< Elven_> http://pastebin.com/d1a5574e8
20081228 12:26:05< Elven_> and this is in the scenario:     {@campaigns/Metamorphosis/utils/deaths.cfg}
20081228 12:26:37< Elvish_Pillager> are you sure it's getting included?
20081228 12:27:20< Elvish_Pillager> 'cause the events look fine...
20081228 12:29:06< Elven_> i am sure of course. but not working
20081228 12:29:26< Elvish_Pillager> how are you sure?
20081228 12:29:50< Elven_> i also looked at the names and all looks ok. now i will test it with deaths in the scenario cfg
20081228 12:30:08< Elvish_Pillager> other thing I'm thinking of is if it's outside the [scenario] tag, just in the .cfg
20081228 12:31:20< Elven_> outside? no it is inside
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20081228 12:31:57< Elvish_Pillager> stick a really obvious event in the file to see if that works
20081228 12:31:58< Elven_> same as in sotbe
20081228 12:32:18< Elvish_Pillager> like [event] name=start [endlevel] result=defeat [/endlevel] [/event]
20081228 12:33:25< Elven_> strange, when adding that event into scenario1.cfg, it works okay
20081228 12:33:52< Elvish_Pillager> I meant add it to your deaths.cfg
20081228 12:34:28< Elven_> name=start? are you sure
20081228 12:34:30< Elven_> ?
20081228 12:34:47< Elvish_Pillager> just to test
20081228 12:34:48< Elvish_Pillager> yes
20081228 12:35:56< Elven_> nothing happenes
20081228 12:36:14< Elven_> so it does not read deaths.cfg :(
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20081228 12:38:40< Elven_> i found it :)
20081228 12:38:49< Elven_> wrong name was used in link
20081228 12:38:57< Elven_> s/Metamorphoses/Metamorphosis
20081228 12:39:37< Elven_> thanks for your help
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20081228 13:48:26< Pavel> Three things: 1) Awesome game. 2) Trivial issue: with 1.5.6, after playing through a level, when I load the replay, it plays through, but several times each turn it claims the file is corrupt, and it seems to count 2-3 turns for every one. (At least, it that's what it does for Princess of Wesnoth on medium difficulty.)
20081228 13:50:05< Ivanovic> Pavel: yes, replays are known to be "behaving interestingly"
20081228 13:50:13< Ivanovic> but fixing this is a non trival task
20081228 13:50:28-!- mameluke [n=bo@201-103.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Verlassend"]
20081228 13:50:49< Pavel> 3) This is just my opinion, but I think the AI isn't defending its leaders as well as it could: I can mass several fast attack units (such as Lancers) within 1 (for them) of the leader, and the leader doesn't try to escape, summon defensive units, nor do existing units try to block the potential attack or come to the leader's defense. I don't know if this is intensional.
20081228 13:51:15< Pavel> Typo: 1 _turn_ (for them)
20081228 13:56:43< Pavel> Particularly, in the "Princess of Wesnoth" and "Princess's Revenge" scenarios, one can typically win by drawing the AIs' forces away from the leader, then attacking with lancers.
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20081228 14:00:47< Pavel> This is, of course, a valid tactic, but it shouldn't work --- barring fog of war, a player can tell when there are enemy units able to attack the leader next turn, how likely they are to succeed, and which units can prevent (or delay) defeat.
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20081228 14:11:19< Pavel> Ivanovic: Oh. Should I file a feature request about the AI issue?
20081228 14:12:59< Elven_> does someone here know what event is, when unit is attacked by another unit?
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20081228 15:48:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> Anyone from the UK here?
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20081228 16:52:30< lizard_r> Where do I find the editor in wesnoth? Or do I have to use some special commands when I make? (openSuse, wesnoth 1.4.7)
20081228 16:52:48< Unnheulu|Laptop> i dno
20081228 16:53:00< Unnheulu|Laptop> all i know atm is woolies is dead :P
20081228 16:53:14< lizard_r> who is woolies?
20081228 16:53:20< Ivanovic> --enable-editor at configure time
20081228 16:53:25< Unnheulu|Laptop> woolworths
20081228 16:53:39< lizard_r> ./configure --enable-editor
20081228 16:53:58< lizard_r> is it that command?
20081228 16:55:48< Ivanovic> jupp
20081228 16:56:28< Ivanovic> and at the end, once you built, you start it with "wesnoth_editor" (it is a different binary in the 1.4.x branch)
20081228 16:56:43< Ivanovic> in current development versions it is integrated in the game
20081228 16:57:29< lizard_r> yeah, I know, does the button diapear if the editor2 isn't build?
20081228 16:57:47< lizard_r> or won't I have the choice?
20081228 16:58:02< ilor> lizard_r: yes there's no button if you build 1.5 without the editor
20081228 16:58:19< ilor> lizard_r: also teh editor is built by default so you don't have to do anything
20081228 16:58:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> Woolies is the only toy shop near me
20081228 16:58:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> so if i wanna buy late christmas pressies im in trouble
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20081228 17:04:36< lizard_r> When I make it I throws an error
20081228 17:05:11< ilor> when you make what it throws what? (be specific)
20081228 17:05:44< lizard_r> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m7c227d28 this are the last lines
20081228 17:06:07< lizard_r> before that it looks pretty normal
20081228 17:06:37< lizard_r> though without the --enable-editor it worked
20081228 17:07:37< ilor> do you have boost iostreams with zlib?
20081228 17:08:54< lizard_r> I think so, the YaST2 updater shows everything as marked when I search boost
20081228 17:09:12< ilor> it looks like you'r missing boost_zlib
20081228 17:09:16< lizard_r> "libboost_iostreams1_36_0 - Boost::IOStreams Runtime Libraries" is it that?
20081228 17:10:02< lizard_r> there is no boost_zlib, can I get it elsewhere?
20081228 17:10:19< ilor> you can always build boost
20081228 17:10:53< ilor> I haven't built 1.4 wesnoth in quite a while
20081228 17:11:33< lizard_r> When I build boost what would I need to uninstall before?
20081228 17:14:11< ilor> lizard_r: wait a sec
20081228 17:17:42< ilor> can you paste the line above the first error one when you build?
20081228 17:17:45< ilor> lizard_r: ^
20081228 17:18:01< lizard_r> binary_or_text.cpp:(.text+0xdf4): undefined reference to `boost::iostreams::zlib::default_strategy'
20081228 17:18:27< ilor> above that, the first one that's not an error
20081228 17:19:18< lizard_r> game.o: In function `play_game(int, char**)':
20081228 17:19:43< lizard_r> I think that's the last without error
20081228 17:21:43< ilor> uh, just pastebin a bit more around that line, ok?
20081228 17:22:54< lizard_r> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m33eb3977
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20081228 17:26:10< ilor> lizard_r: it looks like you somehow have libbost_iostreams without gzip support
20081228 17:26:37< ilor> I'll see how it looks for me when I build 1.4 if you're willing to wait a bit
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20081228 17:26:55< lizard_r> yes, I have time
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20081228 17:39:28< ilor> lizard_r: run locate boost_iostreams
20081228 17:39:56< lizard_r> I need locate
20081228 17:40:40< ilor> find /usr/lib|grep iostreams
20081228 17:40:41< ilor> then
20081228 17:40:45< lizard_r> can I use kfind unstead?
20081228 17:41:21< lizard_r> ok what now?
20081228 17:41:48< ilor> in  your last paste line15 is a very long g++ call 
20081228 17:42:09< lizard_r> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m691cd4fc
20081228 17:42:23< lizard_r> (the output)
20081228 17:42:42< ilor> ok. take the entire line 15 from your paste, copy it
20081228 17:42:53< ilor> and paste into a shell thats in wesnoth/src
20081228 17:43:11< ilor> add -lboost_iostreams at the end and hit enter
20081228 17:44:21< lizard_r> Speicherzugriffsfehler, an error
20081228 17:44:35< lizard_r>  /usr/lib/libboost_iostreams.so.2 -lboost_iostreams
20081228 17:44:44< lizard_r> that's what I did
20081228 17:45:18< lizard_r> Leo: segmentation fault
20081228 17:45:32< lizard_r> that's the translation of it
20081228 17:45:36< ilor> I meant the previous paste
20081228 17:45:51< ilor> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m33eb3977
20081228 17:47:27< lizard_r> g++: animated_game.oattack_prediction.o: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
20081228 17:47:34< lizard_r> File or foulder not found
20081228 17:48:31< ilor> make sure you're in src/
20081228 17:48:34< lizard_r> there seems to be something missing between animated_game.o andattack_prediction.o
20081228 17:48:39< lizard_r> there seems to be something missing between animated_game.o and attack_prediction.o
20081228 17:50:04< lizard_r> I added a space, now there is no output
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20081228 17:50:45< ilor> and if you do the same without the extra -lboost... 
20081228 17:50:46< ilor> ?
20081228 17:51:01< Opec> anyone wanna play civ 4
20081228 17:51:09< lizard_r> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
20081228 17:51:30< lizard_r> and some more lines
20081228 17:52:10< ilor> well then
20081228 17:52:35< ilor> seems that for some reason that -lboost thing wasn't being added 
20081228 17:53:16< lizard_r> what do I do then?
20081228 17:53:25< lizard_r> add it manually somewhere?
20081228 17:54:08< ilor> sec
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20081228 17:57:54< ilor> lizard_r: looking for a 'good' way to solve this ;)
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20081228 18:00:45< ilor> lizard_r: LDFLAGS="-lboost_iostreams" ./configure --enable-editor (otheroptions) then make again
20081228 18:01:06< lizard_r> one command?
20081228 18:01:08< ilor> the << LDFLAGS="..." ./configure >> should be a single command
20081228 18:01:19< ilor> then make as usual
20081228 18:02:27< lizard_r> rolf@linux-ejmp:~/Download/wesnoth-1.4.7/src> LDFLAGS="-lboost_iostreams" ./configure --enable-editor
20081228 18:02:28< lizard_r> bash: ./configure: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
20081228 18:02:37< lizard_r> there is this error
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20081228 18:03:39< ilor> not in src, cd..
20081228 18:04:02< lizard_r> I din't in src, i did in the top folder
20081228 18:04:14< lizard_r> waa, I did
20081228 18:04:33< lizard_r> Dolphins consol ought to have changed that
20081228 18:05:43< lizard_r> it makes now
20081228 18:13:24< lizard_r> ilor, THANKS it now worked, wesnoth&editor run
20081228 18:13:41< ilor> lizard_r: great ;)
20081228 18:13:58< lizard_r> what does LDFLAGS="-lboost_iostreams" ./configure actually do?
20081228 18:14:31< ilor> it sets the ldflags variable which basically tells it to glue that to all linker calls
20081228 18:14:47< ilor> which as we've tested earlier fixes the error
20081228 18:14:52< lizard_r> ah, ok
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20081228 19:41:38< P-Luc_Auclair> is it possible to do animated tilesets yet?
20081228 19:48:02< lizard_r> P-Luc_Auclairyes, I think so, tough I'm not sure and do't know how
20081228 19:48:17< P-Luc_Auclair> ok
20081228 19:48:38< lizard_r> did you look at the wiki?
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20081228 19:50:53< lizard_r> P-Luc_Auclair, http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TerrainWML doen't say anything about animation
20081228 19:54:04< lizard_r> P-Luc_Auclair, "That said, please *do* use the ability of terrain animation to do things like:" Jetryl in Oct 2005, don't know if the feature is still there though
20081228 19:55:39< P-Luc_Auclair> hmm, yeah
20081228 19:56:04< P-Luc_Auclair> I think the village flags are animated
20081228 19:56:18< lizard_r> have a look at the windmill code
20081228 19:56:24< lizard_r> the windmill is animated
20081228 19:56:27< P-Luc_Auclair> good idea
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20081228 21:26:02< dbzer0> hey all
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20081228 21:29:26< dbzer0> I have a question, I'm taking up developing my campaign and for some reason I noticed that some custom naga units I've created have no images. Checking on their unit file, everything seems correct so I'm a bit confused. Anyone can see something wrong? http://paste.debian.net/24626/ 
20081228 21:29:26< dbzer0> The directory and filenames are definitely correct
20081228 21:30:21< AI0867> where are the images locate?
20081228 21:30:30< AI0867> s/locate/laocted/
20081228 21:30:36< AI0867> s/laocted/located/
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20081228 21:32:27< dbzer0> orgotten_Legacy_svn/images/
20081228 21:32:30< dbzer0> Forgotten_Legacy_svn/images/nagas
20081228 21:32:40< dbzer0> (the svn is because I'm working on the svn version)
20081228 21:33:37< AI0867> and your [binary_path] contains?
20081228 21:34:59< dbzer0> hmmhmm... moment
20081228 21:37:16< dbzer0> OK thanks. Found the problem :)
20081228 21:37:32< dbzer0> Still rusty I guess :)
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20081228 23:00:34< [Relic]> Hello :)
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