--- Log opened Thu Jan 08 00:00:01 2009
--- Day changed Thu Jan 08 2009
20090108 00:00:01< Turuk> there have been some true geniuses (sarcasm) at work lately
20090108 00:00:12< Shadow_Master> besides SL?
20090108 00:00:41< Sapient> cobra in his absense seems to write more in his presence 
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20090108 00:01:15< Turuk> agreed
20090108 00:01:27 * Turuk was hoping Australia would be the end of that....
20090108 00:01:41< Sapient> maybe I should make a "farewell" thread and post in it everyday
20090108 00:02:15< Sapient> Day 12 of being away from Wesnoth:
20090108 00:02:21< Sapient> Dear diary, I rock.
20090108 00:02:26< YogiHH> lol
20090108 00:02:40< Turuk> yeah, if he posts again on the forums, that is getting shut down :P
20090108 00:03:49< Sapient> loonycyborg: I got another problem now; it's only building the .o files!
20090108 00:03:57< Sapient> what is wrong with bjam?
20090108 00:04:31< loonycyborg> IIRC it places libs it made in some other dir.
20090108 00:05:14< loonycyborg> Anyway, best use bjam install to place them all in a conventient place.
20090108 00:06:43< Shadow_Master> Sapient: funnily, whenever I have psoted farewell threads, I end up not going away
20090108 00:06:53< Shadow_Master> but those are mere coinidences
20090108 00:07:11< Sapient> I changed my mindl I will write a diary about the hell of boost
20090108 00:07:14< Shadow_Master> am sure you can tell what try say
20090108 00:07:32< Appleman1234> Sapient, what is giving you trouble ?
20090108 00:07:58< Sapient> my current problem is that boost bjam only produces .o files
20090108 00:08:21< Kestenvarn> hey guys
20090108 00:08:41< Kestenvarn> remember the chasm terrain that had small twinkling stars instead of darkness?
20090108 00:08:53< Kestenvarn> where would i find that
20090108 00:09:06< Sirp> Kestenvarn: I remember it, but I know not where it is.
20090108 00:09:13< Sirp> I forget....what was the rationale for the stars?
20090108 00:09:16< noy> Void terrain?
20090108 00:09:26< Kestenvarn> i thought that was really neat. Like a discworld or planar type of thing
20090108 00:09:29< Shadow_Master> Kestenvarn: there's a variant in trunk
20090108 00:09:36< Shadow_Master> I have other variant in my campaign
20090108 00:09:40< noy> I proposed it as an alternate impassable terrain
20090108 00:09:50< noy> for map borders and the like
20090108 00:09:52< Shadow_Master> and IIRC that mesilliac guy posted some of his own
20090108 00:09:54< Kestenvarn> no flying over it?
20090108 00:09:59< Sirp> Kestenvarn: yeah, I did think it was kind of neat how it 'hints' that perhaps the world Wesnoth is in is in a very different shape to our own.
20090108 00:09:59< noy> no
20090108 00:10:15< noy> completely impassable
20090108 00:11:06< Shadow_Master> shikadibot: dir /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/stars
20090108 00:11:06< shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/stars: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/images/terrain/stars
20090108 00:11:10< Shadow_Master> Kestenvarn: ^ that?
20090108 00:11:30< freim> Sirp: I was meaning to ask you, did you mention you where working on a new strategy game?
20090108 00:12:06< freim> did that get anywhere?
20090108 00:12:33< Kestenvarn> <Sirp> Kestenvarn: yeah, I did think it was kind of neat how it 'hints' that perhaps the world Wesnoth is in is in a very different shape to our own.
20090108 00:12:54< Appleman1234> Sapient, what switches get passed to gcc ?
20090108 00:12:57< Kestenvarn> Well, I don't like thinking that everything in BfW has to be related to Wesnoth.
20090108 00:13:17< Sapient> Appleman1234: not sure
20090108 00:13:23< Kestenvarn> yeah, the stars look kind of like that
20090108 00:15:16< Kestenvarn> it's bad to tie everything to one setting, making it more convoluted whenever someone wants to try something new
20090108 00:15:57< Sapient> Appleman1234: I'm going to make it print commands this time
20090108 00:16:58< Appleman1234> Sapient, are you passing options to build ?
20090108 00:17:16< Sapient> this is my current command:
20090108 00:17:17< Sapient> bjam -a -d+2 -sZLIB_BINARY=C:\projects\wesnoth\wesnothd\zlib1.dll -sZLIB_INCLUDE=C:\projects\wesnoth\include -sZLIB_LIBPATH=C:\projects\wesnoth\lib\libzlib.a --toolset=gcc-nocygwin --with-iostreams --with-regex
20090108 00:18:40< Sapient> as you can see, this really belongs in some kind of GUI or wizard
20090108 00:19:17< Sapient> but instead, the C++ lords give us "bjam"
20090108 00:19:27< loonycyborg> I don't think that gui would help much..
20090108 00:20:16< Sapient> really? then at least listing all the commands in --help would be nice
20090108 00:20:36< loonycyborg> Anyway, --toolset=gcc works fine for me with mingw.
20090108 00:20:38< Sapient> I found some of those options from searching google and wesforums
20090108 00:21:14 * ilor_ was fine with toolset=gcc, too (and selecting some libs to not build them all)
20090108 00:21:21< Appleman1234> so you aren't building bjam ?
20090108 00:21:26< ilor_> for msvc I had to do the zlib magic
20090108 00:21:34< loonycyborg> I got tired of fiddling with bjam and wrote a SCostruct file boost :)
20090108 00:21:37< Sapient> Appleman1234: no...
20090108 00:21:51< CIA-53> torangan * r32016 /trunk/ (changelog po/wesnoth-multiplayer/da.po po/wesnoth-utbs/da.po): danish translation update
20090108 00:21:52< loonycyborg> *SConstruct
20090108 00:22:36< Shadow_Master> rrr
20090108 00:25:27< Shadow_Master> how much time does the add-ons server give me before closing the connection?
20090108 00:25:47< Shadow_Master> aka socket
20090108 00:26:30< YogiHH> good night
20090108 00:26:35< loonycyborg> *for boost
20090108 00:26:39< Shadow_Master> nacht YogiHH 
20090108 00:26:47< YogiHH> :-)
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20090108 00:27:02< Sapient> ok, I see why it's not building the .a files
20090108 00:27:10< Sapient> because there is a ton of linking errors
20090108 00:27:19< Appleman1234> ok
20090108 00:27:22< loonycyborg> That would explain it :)
20090108 00:27:31< Shadow_Master> the old progressbar may be improved
20090108 00:27:51< Sapient> libs\iostreams\src\zlib.cpp: In member function `void boost::iostreams::detail::
20090108 00:27:51< Sapient> zlib_base::do_init(const boost::iostreams::zlib_params&, bool, void*(*)(void*, b
20090108 00:27:51< Sapient> oost::iostreams::zlib::uint, boost::iostreams::zlib::uint), void (*)(void*, void
20090108 00:27:51< Sapient> *), void*)':
20090108 00:27:51< Sapient> libs\iostreams\src\zlib.cpp:161: error: `z_stream' was not declared in this scop
20090108 00:27:52< Sapient> e
20090108 00:27:55< loonycyborg> Wait.. How can you get linking errors with .a files?
20090108 00:27:57< Shadow_Master> pastebin
20090108 00:29:49< Sapient> here... http://rafb.net/p/ZGU6rf86.html
20090108 00:30:17< Shadow_Master> :(((
20090108 00:30:34< loonycyborg> libs\iostreams\src\zlib.cpp:18:76: zlib.h
20090108 00:30:39< Shadow_Master> the addon's server disconnected me for having a 14-seconds connection drop. not fair. I'm developer, not fair :(
20090108 00:30:51< Shadow_Master> *addons
20090108 00:30:59< loonycyborg> : No such file or directory
20090108 00:31:24< loonycyborg> Sapient: I guess your boost compilation is misconfigured :)
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20090108 00:31:42< Sapient> you think?
20090108 00:32:12< Sapient> probably the include path
20090108 00:32:40< Shadow_Master> ah, nifty web interface. good job, folks
20090108 00:32:56< Shadow_Master> this is a real lifesaver
20090108 00:32:59< Appleman1234> check the zlib configuration / installation, or the include path you give ...
20090108 00:33:38< Sapient> would have been nice if it checked that before wasting > 2 hours
20090108 00:34:12< Appleman1234> Sapient, no ccache I take it ?
20090108 00:34:33< Sapient> I rebuild the whole thing yesterday
20090108 00:34:36< Sapient> on purpose
20090108 00:34:43< Sapient> because it has never worked
20090108 00:36:45< Appleman1234> weird 
20090108 00:36:55< Appleman1234> boost had always worked for me 
20090108 00:36:58< loonycyborg> Sapient: ftp://loonylinuxbox.homelinux.org:990 :)
20090108 00:36:59< Appleman1234> has*
20090108 00:37:10< Sapient> I take that back, it worked for one day, last saturday
20090108 00:37:24< Sapient> then, unexplicably, stopped working again
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20090108 00:39:58< Sapient> loonycyborg: your server doesn't appear to work here
20090108 00:40:09< Sapient> I think I'm getting closer though
20090108 00:40:58< loonycyborg> Perhaps toggle passive mode?
20090108 00:41:11< loonycyborg> Anyway, I've got logins from you :)
20090108 00:42:02< loonycyborg> That didn't try to send nonsensical requests.
20090108 00:46:00< Sapient> C:\Program Files\CodeBlocks\MinGW\bin\ld.exe: cannot find -lC:\projects\wesnoth\wesnothd\zlib1.dll
20090108 00:46:08< Sapient> that is my current error
20090108 00:46:22< Sapient> and yes, the file does exist at that path
20090108 00:47:04 * loonycyborg curses the stupid font. l or I?
20090108 00:47:07< Sapient> -sZLIB_BINARY="C:\projects\wesnoth\wesnothd\zlib1.dll"
20090108 00:47:21< Sapient> that's an l ;)
20090108 00:48:06< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: am I allowed to change my default group!?
20090108 00:48:25< Shadow_Master> or is it just a lie from the usergroups interface in my user control panel?
20090108 00:48:46< loonycyborg> Anyway, both -l and -I options aren't supposed to work like that.
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20090108 00:50:30< loonycyborg> -I requires a directory with headers, while -l requires a library *name*, not full path to it.
20090108 00:50:37< loonycyborg> Like -lz
20090108 00:50:54< Sapient> C:\Program Files\CodeBlocks\MinGW\bin\ld.exe: cannot find -lzlib1.dll
20090108 00:51:00< Sapient> better?
20090108 00:51:39< loonycyborg> Try "z" and "zlib" and "zlib1" without .dll
20090108 00:54:11< Sapient> so where the heck is it looking for it?
20090108 00:54:49< loonycyborg> In library search path.
20090108 00:55:08< Sapient> which is...?
20090108 00:55:08< loonycyborg> Specified with -L
20090108 00:55:43< loonycyborg> Just place zlib in default search path. With mingw's own libs and headers.
20090108 00:57:29< Sapient> a good idea, but amazingly, it didn't work
20090108 01:00:52< Sapient> I'm running out of ideas
20090108 01:01:22< Sapient> are these options explained anywhere?
20090108 01:01:33< Sapient> as in, oh say, what they mean?
20090108 01:02:21< Sapient> ah, found it... http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_37_0/libs/iostreams/doc/installation.html
20090108 01:03:36< loonycyborg> Sapient: What errors did you get when you placed zlib among mingw's headers?
20090108 01:03:51< Sapient> it still couldn't find it
20090108 01:04:57< loonycyborg> Perhaps you've missed one of headers?
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20090108 01:06:55< Sapient> w00t, it finally built it
20090108 01:07:25< Sapient> finding the documentation was quite useful
20090108 01:07:42< Sapient> I will finish this war later
20090108 01:07:46< Sapient> cya later, have fun.
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20090108 03:12:31< Kestenvarn> netsplits ahoy
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20090108 04:32:05< Sapient> well, found out bjam was using the wrong compiler so... need to figure out how to set that
20090108 04:32:31< Sapient> apparently I also had an SjLj compiler laying around
20090108 04:36:09< Sapient> this documentation of boost bjam is horrible
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20090108 04:37:23< Sapient> where is the list of variables -s[...] for bjam?
20090108 04:39:37< Appleman1234> on their website afaik
20090108 04:39:44< Sapient> I am searching
20090108 04:40:04< Sapient> by all means, let me know if you find it
20090108 04:42:32< Sapient> you would think this would be some pretty basic stuff people would need to know
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20090108 04:43:35< Appleman1234> -s is any environment variable that can be set .....
20090108 04:44:24< Sapient> I know that
20090108 04:44:43< Sapient> so which one sets compiler?
20090108 04:46:36< Sapient> I can't believe this; it's not documented anywhere
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20090108 04:51:31< Appleman1234> Sapient, do you have a file called jambase
20090108 04:52:27< Sapient> no
20090108 04:52:37< Sapient> I have a lot of files with jam in the title though
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20090108 04:53:24< Appleman1234> Sapient, http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_37_0/doc/html/bbv2/faq.html
20090108 04:53:33< Appleman1234> has how to access environment variables
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20090108 05:06:24< Sapient> I think there is no way to set it using -s
20090108 05:06:50< Sapient> you have to modify %PATH% at the OS level
20090108 05:09:35< Sapient> whatever gets the job done, I guess
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20090108 05:49:43< Sapient> ah no... it's still throwing exceptions in boost::iostreams::basic_gzip_decompressor
20090108 05:50:00< Sapient> even after I totally rebulit zlib and boost
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20090108 05:53:56< Sapient> I must admit defeat for now
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20090108 11:25:15< loonycyborg> Sapient: I guess I'll have to upload my boost libs to openomy then :)
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20090108 11:46:23< loonycyborg> Sapient: http://files.openomy.com/public/loonycyborg/boost_wesnoth_deps_1_36_dw2.zip
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20090108 16:12:22< Shadow_Master> hi
20090108 16:23:10< Rrenys> Why, hello there
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20090108 16:27:58< Shadow_Master> there's a guy named Link in "Hide and Seek", Liberty
20090108 16:28:32< zookeeper> indeed
20090108 16:28:43< zookeeper> should i give him a green tunic and a shield?
20090108 16:29:07< JW1> at least a green hat
20090108 16:29:15< Turuk> and for leveling he can get the red or blue tunic, with the iron boots or the ones with the golden wings
20090108 16:29:28< Shadow_Master> zookeeper: please do!
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20090108 17:52:21< Ivanovic> hi
20090108 17:52:36< loonycyborg> hello
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20090108 17:57:26< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Why there aren't any Russian translation updates lately? Did the new maintainer disappear too?
20090108 17:58:24< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: i never got a file from him
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20090108 18:02:41< zookeeper> i'm making cursor images for scrolling (when you scroll, the cursor changes to an arrow), anyone willing to wire them in when done? i think i don't want to bug mordante with it ;)
20090108 18:05:40< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I figured as much. But I wonder why: because he disappeared or because translators didn't make progress? :)
20090108 18:05:51< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: i don't know
20090108 18:06:00< Ivanovic> i heard *nothing* more from him lately
20090108 18:06:14< Ivanovic> last message is from 27.11.2008 22:20
20090108 18:06:29 * loonycyborg would be a better translation maintainer than no maintainer :)
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20090108 18:43:32< CIA-53> okyada * r32017 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated Japanese translation
20090108 18:48:38< Ivanovic> looks like japanese is finally active again
20090108 18:48:39< Ivanovic> :)
20090108 18:49:20< loonycyborg> Why does he commit himself instead of sending to you? ;)
20090108 18:49:31< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: he is the "asian translation manager"
20090108 18:49:38< Ivanovic> at least okyada was once meant to be
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20090108 19:50:19< YogiHH> hi everyone
20090108 19:51:48< Ivanovic> hi YogiHH
20090108 19:52:10< YogiHH> Ivanovic, wasn't there a release schedule plan somewhere on the wiki?
20090108 19:52:36< Ivanovic> yes, there is one
20090108 19:52:48< Ivanovic> and it is in the topic though someone shortened it to only contain the part after www.wesnoth.org/
20090108 19:52:58< Ivanovic> wiki/Wesnoth1.6ReleasePlan 
20090108 19:53:09< YogiHH> cool, thanks
20090108 19:53:18< Ivanovic> and yeah, we are behind schedule
20090108 19:53:20< Ivanovic> ;)
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20090108 19:58:46< YogiHH> Ivanovic: i got two unsolved bugs assigned to me. The mp campaign thingy will have to wait for the next release and the other one is very special. Do we have anything more urgent that needs to be worked on?
20090108 19:59:16< Soliton> broken replays. :-P
20090108 19:59:33 * zookeeper seconds
20090108 19:59:36< YogiHH> Soliton: they should work, no?
20090108 20:00:10< Soliton> but not all do.
20090108 20:00:13< YogiHH> Shadow_Master ported my 1.4 fix for campaign replays to trunk if i am not mistaken
20090108 20:00:31< YogiHH> and i solved that empty starting position issue yesterday
20090108 20:01:10< YogiHH> brb
20090108 20:04:07< YogiHH> back
20090108 20:04:27< YogiHH> Soliton: have you got an example or a bug report for me?
20090108 20:04:35< Soliton> http://filebin.ca/qutjfa/TSG-Into_The_Depths_replay.gz
20090108 20:05:20< Soliton> also http://filebin.ca/cezhgt/TSG-Into_The_Depths_replay.gz
20090108 20:05:42< Soliton> that is already hand edited to fix a recall OOS.
20090108 20:06:02< YogiHH> hmm, ok
20090108 20:07:15< Soliton> the easy to figure out part should be the event when you meet the trolls there.
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20090108 20:07:25< Soliton> for some reason such events happen a turn later.
20090108 20:08:05< Soliton> i had the same in TB when you meet the guards but it didn't cause OOS there, i think.
20090108 20:08:42< YogiHH> Soliton: are those 1.4 replays?
20090108 20:09:05< Soliton> i think so.
20090108 20:10:09< Soliton> YogiHH: discussion when the replays were made: http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2008/12/%23wesnoth.2008-12-23.log
20090108 20:11:54< YogiHH> Soliton: those were done with 1.4.5, the fix was for 1.4.7
20090108 20:12:18< Soliton> YogiHH: the replays were done with 1.4.7.
20090108 20:12:34< Soliton> the save is from 1.4.5 or whatever.
20090108 20:12:47< YogiHH> ok
20090108 20:13:21< Soliton> might be a good idea to rewrite the version field with the actual version used. :-)
20090108 20:13:28< YogiHH> :-)
20090108 20:15:19< Soliton> so as i said the troll meeting event should easily reproduce OOS. not so sure about the recall issue, i guess i was using undo there.
20090108 20:16:22< Soliton> that's about the second replay which i played; the first is from zookeeper which i didn't look at.
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20090108 20:28:17< Mordante> hi
20090108 20:28:27< thespaceinvader> evening Kitty_, mordante
20090108 20:28:37< Mordante> hi thespaceinvader 
20090108 20:28:45< thespaceinvader> how's things?
20090108 20:28:48< kitty_> hi thespaceinvader, hi Mordante
20090108 20:28:55< Mordante> hi kitty_ 
20090108 20:29:04< Mordante> quite busy the last week
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20090108 20:38:17< Soliton> YogiHH: oh, another issue. reset the replay and you'll get another eye guardian spawned. of course that's only a minor issue.
20090108 20:47:34< YogiHH> Soliton: what made you think the event fires a turn later?
20090108 20:57:58< Soliton> YogiHH: good question not sure anymore but it seems at least objective changes only show the next turn and not the same turn the event triggering happens.
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20090108 20:58:25< Soliton> of course objective changes are not a problem.
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20090108 21:18:05< Mordante> Shadow_Master you were looking for me?
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20090108 21:30:52< Mordante> Shadow_Master I didn't have time to look at the portraits last week and I have some ideas but not tested yet
20090108 21:31:01< Mordante> I hope to find more time next week
20090108 21:31:06< Mordante> I'm off now
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20090108 22:45:03< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: if you are around, I sent another translation update
20090108 22:45:17 * Shadow_Master 's just impatient to see the numbers in g.w.o increase
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20090108 23:07:21< Sapient> loonycyborg: thanks but I got it working about 2 hours after I logged off here last night
20090108 23:07:32< Sapient> finally
20090108 23:08:11< loonycyborg> Sapient: Great! What was wrong with them, anyway?
20090108 23:09:11< Sapient> when I tried your version I changed my project's include path and forgot to change it back when I decided to go back to building 1.34.1
20090108 23:09:53< Sapient> so, dumb oversight on my part
20090108 23:10:41< Sapient> I don't care as long as it works
20090108 23:11:41< Sapient> Shadow_Master: there?
20090108 23:13:09< Shadow_Master> no.
20090108 23:13:28 * Shadow_Master is not Shadow_Master 
20090108 23:14:06< Sapient> *ahem* Shikadi?
20090108 23:14:23< Sapient> I would still like your savefile please :)
20090108 23:16:01< Shadow_Master> noooooooooooo
20090108 23:16:31< Shadow_Master> Sapient: argh, what do youw ant to do with it?
20090108 23:16:49< Shadow_Master> do you really want to test it with the add-on?
20090108 23:18:04< Sapient> I downloaded your add-ob
20090108 23:18:19< Sapient> I just want to reproduce the crash
20090108 23:18:19< Shadow_Master> my saved game is not compatible with the downloadable version unless you aply a certain patch
20090108 23:18:50< Shadow_Master> and I do not want to revert lots of revisions in SVN (wesnoth-umc-dev) just to make a compatible saved game...
20090108 23:18:59< Sapient> why wouldn't it work?
20090108 23:19:03< Sapient> did you add more units?
20090108 23:19:14< Shadow_Master> yes
20090108 23:19:26< loonycyborg> That's why I never go in IftU far. Saved games break often :)
20090108 23:19:27< Shadow_Master> that was because kitty_ 's portrait wouldn't work otherwise thanks to Mordante, in 1.5.7
20090108 23:19:34< loonycyborg> *go far
20090108 23:19:52< Sapient> well, I can just do a global search/replace on the unit type name right?
20090108 23:20:00< Shadow_Master> you'll need to apply the patch in http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=329075#p329075 before using my saved games
20090108 23:20:09< Shadow_Master> er, yeah, I guess you can...
20090108 23:20:23< Sapient> I will apply the patch
20090108 23:20:30< Sapient> that sounds like less work, maybe
20090108 23:20:53< Shadow_Master> okay, just uncompress it so it overwrites and creates the new files
20090108 23:23:41< Shadow_Master> loonycyborg: IftU won'0t break often now that I published 1.10.2
20090108 23:24:02< Shadow_Master> that is, if mordante didn't force me to come up with this solution....
20090108 23:24:04< Sapient> patch applied. savefile?
20090108 23:24:10< Shadow_Master> i'll attach it to teh bug
20090108 23:24:45< Shadow_Master> and I never intended to attach a "valid saved game", you silly
20090108 23:25:21< Sapient> oh so you were deliberately making it hard on me :P
20090108 23:25:26< Shadow_Master> - i hate this upload interface
20090108 23:25:40< Shadow_Master> Sapient: no, I didn't want to make you go through playing it
20090108 23:26:16< Shadow_Master> attached
20090108 23:26:21< Sapient> tks
20090108 23:26:43< Shadow_Master> yes, the instructions, yes...
20090108 23:29:15< Shadow_Master> done
20090108 23:29:56< Shadow_Master> what I originally posted is a hand-picked piece of the saved game btw. So much effort wasted...
20090108 23:30:30< Sapient> right. live and learn I guess :) thanks
20090108 23:32:12 * Shadow_Master needs to get Sapient 
20090108 23:32:23< Shadow_Master> 's real photography
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20090108 23:32:44< Shadow_Master> "Sapient wants YOU! ... to file a bug report"
20090108 23:32:51< Sapient> my photo is in the user's forum ;)
20090108 23:34:36< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: What's really annoying is that reloading from end of "Over the Sands" doesn't fix dehydration bug in "Cursed Plateau".
20090108 23:35:37< loonycyborg> IIRC you've already fixed it, so I guess I'll have to replay "Over the Sands" too.
20090108 23:36:03< Shadow_Master> loonycyborg: yup
20090108 23:36:25< Shadow_Master> sorry... technical limitations. It's not like zookeeper hasn't done fixes in UtBS that fall into the same category ,)
20090108 23:37:30< Shadow_Master> (and I did port several of those fixes too)
20090108 23:38:35< Shadow_Master> boucman: why not mention your optimizations in the changelog?
20090108 23:38:55< boucman> when I did it I didn't think it would be so usefull
20090108 23:39:02< boucman> feel free to add it if you want
20090108 23:39:15< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: no need to ping me whenever you sent an update
20090108 23:39:27< Ivanovic> eventually i see it when looking at my inbox (i do so *very* regulary)
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20090108 23:40:19< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: I didn't know you were like that :P
20090108 23:40:43< Shadow_Master> boucman: I'llp ut it this way: if something breaks, they know who to blame
20090108 23:40:46< Shadow_Master> * they will
20090108 23:40:51< boucman> k
20090108 23:40:59< Shadow_Master> :]
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20090108 23:42:39< CIA-53> ivanovic * r32018 /trunk/po/wesnoth-l/es.po: updated Spanish translation
20090108 23:42:53< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: you know, i use a decent OS with some desktop environment allowing me >1 virtual desktop
20090108 23:43:06< Ivanovic> so basically i got one desktop completely dedicated to thunderbird
20090108 23:43:10< Shadow_Master> ah
20090108 23:43:20< Shadow_Master> I also use a decent OS with some decent DE :o
20090108 23:43:29< Ivanovic> one is seperated into a section for konversation, kopete and firefox (with firefox taking slightly more than 50%)
20090108 23:43:45< Ivanovic> one is completely free for "whatever comes up"
20090108 23:43:52< Shadow_Master> but I don't use virtual desktops for much since I then forget what I have running in the background
20090108 23:44:12< Ivanovic> and on the last one i got konsole open with at least 6 tabs (though only a part of the desktop is used, the rest is free for "whatever is needed")
20090108 23:45:18 * loonycyborg doesn't use tabs in konsole. He opens multiple konsoles instead.
20090108 23:45:52< Shadow_Master> I usually have around 8 open tabs in konsole
20090108 23:46:26< Shadow_Master> right now I have 7 plus an extra window
20090108 23:46:27< loonycyborg> And I never have more than five consoles open.
20090108 23:46:30 * boucman has two screens, which minimize the need for virtual desktops
20090108 23:46:46< loonycyborg> Most often one-two.
20090108 23:47:08< Shadow_Master> if you can donate additional RAM for my brain, I can use more virtual desktops
20090108 23:47:25 * Ivanovic works with swapping
20090108 23:47:32< Ivanovic> though sometimes taskchanges can take a while
20090108 23:47:54< Shadow_Master> otherwise I have too much stuff going on there at a time that I can't afford keeping track of what is going on other desktops... and I don't like to see windows of other desktops in kicker, either
20090108 23:47:59< Shadow_Master> :]
20090108 23:51:35< Sapient> ok, I reproduced the crash
20090108 23:51:46< Shadow_Master> \o/
20090108 23:52:06 * Shadow_Master gives Sapient a diet cookie
20090108 23:52:35< Sapient> oddly, it states that it is crashing after it freed the heap at cf564b8, but all the cfg's in the log output are at 0xE...
20090108 23:52:54 * Shadow_Master has no idea
20090108 23:53:33< Sapient> I wonder if it is because I am using unisgned ptr type in the cast
20090108 23:54:09< Sapient> nah, that shouldn't make any difference
20090108 23:54:36< Shadow_Master> ptrdiff_t ?
20090108 23:55:55< Sapient> nah, uintptr_t
20090108 23:56:09< Shadow_Master> I prefer to stay away from that stuff
20090108 23:56:27 * Shadow_Master steps back- this sounds too explosive
20090108 23:56:58< Sapient> loonybot << std::hex << reinterpret_cast<uintptr_t>(0xcf564b8);
20090108 23:57:00< loonybot> error: invalid cast from type 'int' to type 'uintptr_t'
20090108 23:57:37< Sapient> loonybot << std::hex << uintptr_t(0xcf564b8);
20090108 23:57:41< loonybot> cf564b8
20090108 23:57:50< Shadow_Master> reinterpret_cast<>() ??
20090108 23:57:57< Sapient> invalid cast?
20090108 23:57:58< Shadow_Master> you'd use static_cast<>() there
20090108 23:58:24< Sapient> loonybot << std::hex << static_cast<uintptr_t>(0xcf564b8);
20090108 23:58:25< loonybot> cf564b8
20090108 23:58:32< Shadow_Master> since you are converting integral types, not pointer types
20090108 23:58:43< Sapient> right, I had to use reinterpret in game_events.cpp
20090108 23:59:33< Sapient> loonybot << std::hex << reinterpret_cast<uintptr_t>((void*)0xcf564b8);
20090108 23:59:34< loonybot> cf564b8
20090108 23:59:56< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: are there any rules regarding the translation teams' wiki pages?=
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