--- Log opened Fri Jan 16 00:00:08 2009 --- Day changed Fri Jan 16 2009 20090116 00:00:08< Sapient> Shadow_Master: thou hast summoned me? 20090116 00:00:18< Turuk> Sigh, always with the necromancy 20090116 00:00:32< Shadow_Master> Sapient: yes. read the logs. 20090116 00:00:44< Shadow_Master> and try to make a coherent discussion out of them ;o) 20090116 00:00:57< Sapient> here's my first thought: file a bug report :p 20090116 00:01:40< Shadow_Master> nooooo. 20090116 00:01:57< Sapient> seriously 20090116 00:02:07< Shadow_Master> please read all the stuff before giving me your opinion. It is way too difficult to file bug reports again UMC 20090116 00:02:20< Shadow_Master> and it goes against my religious beliefs (no UMC bugs in bug tracker) 20090116 00:02:35< Sapient> here's what you need to do 20090116 00:03:05< Sapient> 1) copy the relevant WML that causes the bug out of your UMC, or savefile if macros are in the way 20090116 00:03:26< Sapient> 2) erase all events from scenario-test.cfg and past it in there 20090116 00:03:30< Shadow_Master> 1) save files are not applicable. 20090116 00:03:38< Shadow_Master> since the bug is triggered during prestart. 20090116 00:03:52< Sapient> beginning of scenario save works 20090116 00:03:59< Shadow_Master> okay 20090116 00:04:08< Sapient> oh, wait... no it doesn't :p 20090116 00:04:18< Shadow_Master> (okay? ??) 20090116 00:04:39< Sapient> if I can't reproduce the bug then it is really hard to work on it 20090116 00:05:22< Sapient> so the bug report contains steps to reproduce the thing, and it is preserved unlike a pastebin 20090116 00:05:29< Shadow_Master> -.- you could always do as I said, fetch it from SVN and uncomment the not-guilty-but-still-trigerring bug. 20090116 00:05:39< Shadow_Master> *block 20090116 00:05:55< Sapient> I don't have UMC Svn setup 20090116 00:06:16< Sapient> but if you describe the steps in a bug report, I will 20090116 00:06:59< Shadow_Master> "setup"? 20090116 00:07:03< Sapient> main reason I am pestering you for a bug report is I might not be able to work on it right away, and hunting this stuff down in irclogs and pastebins is not ideal 20090116 00:07:18< Sirp> grzywacz: I'm here now...what's up? 20090116 00:07:19< Shadow_Master> (setup == checkout in userdata/data/campaigns/Campaign_Name) :P 20090116 00:07:37< Shadow_Master> and you don't even need to authenticate for that, but well... 20090116 00:09:32< Sapient> ok, well sorry if I sound like a jerk but you need to get in the habit of filing bug reports so that stuff doesn't get forgotten 20090116 00:09:41< Shadow_Master> yes... 20090116 00:10:00< Shadow_Master> It's just that I'm used to being able to fix this kind of stuff myself. 20090116 00:10:24< Shadow_Master> but when it comes to random MM bugs in a program I didn't create... ugh. 20090116 00:11:37< Sapient> ok, I'd like to take a look at it, but I need a report for anything this complex 20090116 00:11:53< Sapient> it may not seem complex to you because you are involved with it already 20090116 00:12:06< Sapient> cya later, have fun. 20090116 00:12:06-!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-24-126-133-155.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090116 00:12:07< Shadow_Master> yes, there it goes... and for me it is really complex already. :/ 20090116 00:12:33< Shadow_Master> it's not like I haven't been struggling to determine the real guilty WML and failed. 20090116 00:22:09 * Soliton hates it when complex command lines don't spit anything out because of some buffers. 20090116 00:35:53-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 00:39:10< ilor> wesbot: seen mordante 20090116 00:39:11< wesbot> ilor: The person with the nick Mordante last spoke 2h 20m ago. 2h 19m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Iceweasel 3.0.5/2008122011]" 20090116 00:39:22-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit ["On the road again"] 20090116 00:53:20-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.246.35] has quit ["Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"] 20090116 00:55:33-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.246.35] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 01:04:26-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 01:05:41-!- IRSeekBot3 [n=IRSeekLo@ip-68-178-158-148.ip.secureserver.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:05:41-!- IRSeekBot3 [n=IRSeekLo@ip-68-178-158-148.ip.secureserver.net] has quit [K-lined] 20090116 01:07:15-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@c-68-49-10-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:08:15-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.183.198] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]"] 20090116 01:40:28-!- JW1 [n=X@c-71-57-85-168.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090116 01:54:58-!- NotShadowMaster [n=ignacior@190.22.68.8] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:56:07-!- NotShadowMaster [n=ignacior@190.22.68.8] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 01:56:19-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:56:53-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 01:56:59-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:58:04-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:58:15-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 01:59:20-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 01:59:29< Shadow_Master> o O 20090116 01:59:39< Shadow_Master> 22:01 -!- Shadow_Master_ is "(unknown)" on (unknown) 20090116 01:59:53-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 02:00:22 * Shadow_Master is struggling to get to b.w.o. 20090116 02:01:07< Shadow_Master> Sapient: you'd better like the bug I'll submit. I have sacrificed litres of blood for it. 20090116 02:03:22< Shadow_Master> * I'm trying to submit 20090116 02:04:00< Shadow_Master> um... 201 KB. 20090116 02:04:21< Shadow_Master> odds are I'll not manage to add all attachments now. 20090116 02:05:10-!- shikadibot_ [n=sh314001@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 02:05:32-!- shikadibot_ [n=sh314001@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 02:06:28< Shadow_Master> svn info . 20090116 02:06:29< Shadow_Master> argh 20090116 02:07:29 * Shadow_Master kicks CIA-53 20090116 02:07:29< CIA-53> ow 20090116 02:08:38< Shadow_Master> Sapient: https://gna.org/bugs/?12864 20090116 02:09:21 * Shadow_Master clears the dagger. 20090116 02:12:11-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 02:12:26-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 02:16:02< Shadow_Master> um... valgrind gives me a lot of "invalid read of size 8" messages while Wesnoth is starting up. 20090116 02:25:42-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 02:27:52-!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-24-126-133-155.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 02:31:47 * Shadow_Master hides 20090116 02:31:57 * Sapient winks ;) 20090116 02:32:05-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090116 02:32:31< Sapient> lol 20090116 02:36:26-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 03:03:23< Sapient> Shadow_Master: this looks like a heap corruption... again *sigh* 20090116 03:03:36< Sapient> those things are darn hard to track down 20090116 03:08:55< Sapient> mine crashed in a totally different place, unit::read() 20090116 03:13:39< Sapient> and it does not even spawn an [event] or [fire_event] before the crash occurs 20090116 03:24:09-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 03:25:02 * Shadow_Master is back from a yummy meal. 20090116 03:25:23< Sapient> welcome back 20090116 03:26:15< Shadow_Master> don't expect much input from me, I'm playtesting the same scenario 20090116 03:26:32< Shadow_Master> but it's nice already to know you could get your own crash 20090116 03:28:15< Sapient> one thing that really has me confused... 20090116 03:28:46< Sapient> the events in my stderr don't match those in the savefile or the scenario file, at all 20090116 03:28:59< Shadow_Master> same here 20090116 03:29:15< Sapient> woah 20090116 03:29:18< Shadow_Master> (note: I'd have expected my workaround to just delay the crash, but I'm at turn 19 and it hasn't crashed yet) 20090116 03:29:56< Shadow_Master> * same here <-- it is in the attached backtrace anyway 20090116 03:30:02< Sapient> I see this: [IftU] probing proxy unit_type... 20090116 03:30:56< Sapient> but the word "probing" does not appear anywhere in the savefile or the scenario file 20090116 03:31:32< Sapient> where is that coming from? 20090116 03:31:40< Shadow_Master> /base-workarounds.cfg 20090116 03:32:17< Shadow_Master> there's an ugly hack in there that well... makes the character portraits available despite Mordante's experimental design. 20090116 03:34:34< Shadow_Master> call it a saved-game upgrader. 20090116 03:35:30< Sapient> kk 20090116 03:35:40< Sapient> dang that is hackish 20090116 03:35:50< Sapient> {MAP} lol 20090116 03:36:01< Shadow_Master> kitty would kill me if the portraits didn't work somehow for 1.5.7 ;) 20090116 03:36:23-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 20090116 03:41:19< Sapient> I suspect that spawning the Door unit has something to do with this 20090116 03:41:37< Sapient> I was able to spawn one door, but the next one failed 20090116 03:41:44< Shadow_Master> that would be interesting, since it never caused me problems in 1.3.x or 1.4.x 20090116 03:42:00< Sapient> I did recently same some unit.cpp code 20090116 03:42:08< Sapient> s/same/change 20090116 03:47:58-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 03:48:13-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 03:58:07< Sapient> Shadow_Master: yup, all I did was comment out the Door macro, and it worked fine 20090116 03:58:57< Shadow_Master> Sapient: I said that you can comment different random WML blocks and avoid the bugs 20090116 03:59:01< Shadow_Master> em. 20090116 03:59:25< Shadow_Master> looks like I stumbled upon a bug in irssi-scripts :P 20090116 04:00:33< Sapient> Shadow_Master: your build doesn't crash nearly as reliably as mine does 20090116 04:02:15< Shadow_Master> I don't understand. :/ 20090116 04:02:51< Sapient> my free() is pickier than yours 20090116 04:03:08< Sapient> it notices the corruption faster 20090116 04:03:49< Shadow_Master> I have noticed that in my own programs with the same Linux distributions but different architecture. 20090116 04:03:58< Shadow_Master> e.g. x86 versus AMD64. 20090116 04:05:01< Sapient> msvcrt!free () from C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll 20090116 04:05:19< Sapient> I doubt your build uses that ;) 20090116 04:05:22< Shadow_Master> Sapient: still, I didn't comment the door generator, and just did that event relocation I mentioned in the bug report, and no crashes occur... 20090116 04:06:10< Sapient> interesting 20090116 04:06:20< Sapient> I'm gonna just pore over this unit code 20090116 04:06:43< Sapient> where's the {DOOR_TILES_TO_UNITS} defined? 20090116 04:09:18-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 04:10:30< Shadow_Master> Sapient: /macros/scenario-utils.cfg 20090116 04:10:44< Sapient> thanks, Shikadi 20090116 04:11:03< Shadow_Master> the doors unit_type has an embedded [event] now that I remember 20090116 04:11:10< Shadow_Master> /units/mechanical/Door.cfg or something 20090116 04:11:20< Sapient> aha 20090116 04:11:23-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 04:11:27< Sapient> that must be it 20090116 04:12:31< Sapient> I am beginning to think that using an iterator for event_handlers was a bad idea 20090116 04:12:53< Sapient> instead we should use size() and operator[] 20090116 04:13:01 * Shadow_Master goes to sleep, bye 20090116 04:13:05< Sapient> later 20090116 04:13:30-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit ["We are the Borg. Your code will be rewritten in Python. Resistance is futile."] 20090116 04:32:03< Turuk> anyone around? 20090116 04:33:22< Sapient> maybe 20090116 04:33:46< Turuk> I just need an opinion 20090116 04:33:58< Turuk> It took me a second, but I believe I'm called a fag in this post 20090116 04:33:59< Turuk> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23674 20090116 04:34:10< Turuk> whoops, direct to the post http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=332669#p332669 20090116 04:36:00< Turuk> Just making sure I am not crazy before I do some Sith work. 20090116 04:37:48< Sapient> maybe that was short for "literalfaggotry" 20090116 04:38:24< Turuk> Ah. So either way I lose 20090116 04:38:52< Turuk> What a charming individual 20090116 04:39:07< Sapient> isn't he the one making the cyberpunk era? 20090116 04:40:03< Turuk> No that is Evilninjamonkey 20090116 04:40:36< Turuk> He has really done nothing but post his random opinions in his short time with the forums 20090116 04:40:39< Sapient> ha, I liked your link to the Easy WML page 20090116 04:41:40< Turuk> Thank you. ;) 20090116 04:43:24< Soliton> looks like the fag part is gone. 20090116 04:43:37< Turuk> I made it disappear 20090116 04:43:48< Turuk> And I am currently posting him a warning on language 20090116 04:46:49< Sapient> I think the anonymity of the internet is its main appeal for those who revel in immaturity 20090116 04:47:24< Turuk> Agreed, the ability to talk back and say what you want without fear of repercussion. 20090116 04:48:09< Turuk> Especially when they think they can talk back to people they could not do so to normally. (Authority figures, Older People.) 20090116 04:49:30-!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 04:49:59< Sapient> then again, "it is to a man's honor to overlook an offense" ;) 20090116 04:51:14< Turuk> Well then, you are free to call me without honor. :) 20090116 04:51:22< Sapient> proverbs 19:11 20090116 04:51:40< Turuk> Nah, I usually do try to ignore most stuff, but being cussed at is not one of them. 20090116 04:51:44< Turuk> Ah, a religous man? 20090116 04:51:50< Turuk> *religious 20090116 04:53:24< Sapient> I am a student of the truth 20090116 04:54:04< Turuk> Fair enough. 20090116 04:54:40< Turuk> Correct me if I am wrong, but was there not already a Frezycus on the forum? 20090116 04:54:43-!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db2a4ba.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 04:55:14< Sapient> yes, I stole his Royal Rumble map when I made my first map mod 20090116 04:55:39< Turuk> Hmm, I thought I recognized the name, well I suppose he has returned. 20090116 05:02:10-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@76.229.202.137] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090116 05:10:17-!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db2687a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 05:10:42-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20090116 05:11:05< Sapient> dang... Code::Blocks just totally crashed 20090116 05:11:50< Sapient> I might as well start using straight vim and make and gdb at this point 20090116 05:13:52 * Turuk understood not a word, but nods along. 20090116 05:14:16< Sapient> the problem is Code::Blocks is too memory hungry 20090116 05:14:49< Turuk> Ah, and your poor computer cannot take it? 20090116 05:18:20-!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Rhonda, Sirp, crimson_penguin, yann, ABCD, Sapient, Turuk, law_, grzywacz, Alesis-Novik_, (+14 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20090116 05:19:20-!- Netsplit over, joins: Ivanovic, wesbot, Soliton, Rhonda, law_, suokko, Turuk, Sapient, BenUrban, crimson_penguin (+13 more) 20090116 05:19:29< Turuk> My computer knowledge is not much beyond competency with the norm 20090116 05:20:05-!- Netsplit over, joins: Patterner 20090116 05:23:18-!- Netsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Rhonda, Sirp, crimson_penguin, yann, ABCD, Sapient, Turuk, law_, grzywacz, Alesis-Novik_, (+14 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20090116 05:26:07-!- Netsplit over, joins: Ivanovic, wesbot, Soliton, Rhonda, law_, suokko, Turuk, Sapient, BenUrban, crimson_penguin (+13 more) 20090116 05:26:18-!- Netsplit over, joins: Patterner 20090116 05:43:49< Sapient> yo Patterner 20090116 05:46:19-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.102.195] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 05:52:24< Patterner> did you look at the segfaults? need more info? 20090116 05:52:47< Sapient> yeah, actually we got a new one 20090116 05:53:17< Sapient> I'm about to commit a fix 20090116 05:53:49< Sapient> thanks for your help 20090116 05:56:36< CIA-53> sapient * r32142 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: possible fix for bug #12864: unit_type events could cause crash by inserting to event_handlers while iterating over them in game_events::pump() 20090116 05:57:04< Sapient> unfortunately, it's midnight here and I don't have time to test it 20090116 05:57:32< Sapient> so, hopefully Shadow_Master or someone can confirm that fix 20090116 05:57:54< Sapient> cya later, have fun. 20090116 05:57:54-!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-24-126-133-155.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090116 06:02:44-!- Patterner [n=Psyche@d137017.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ["Reboot"] 20090116 06:36:51-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.214] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090116 06:37:03-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 06:44:00-!- EdB [n=EdB@58.101.196-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 06:56:30-!- EdB [n=EdB@58.101.196-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20090116 07:10:40-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.102.195] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090116 07:10:44-!- Patterner [n=Psyche@d137017.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 07:32:57-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 07:33:25-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 08:04:00-!- Sirp_ [n=me@c-71-198-3-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 08:04:28-!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@d007177.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 08:04:40< YogiHH> good morning everyone 20090116 08:05:12< YogiHH> Soliton: if a unit drains half a point, is it rounded up or down? 20090116 08:09:36< Sirp_> hi YogiHH 20090116 08:09:44< YogiHH> hi Sirp_ 20090116 08:10:09< YogiHH> Sirp_: you know about drain and rounding? 20090116 08:12:12< Sirp_> YogiHH: I'd imagine it rounds down, but in truth I have no idea. 20090116 08:12:25< Sirp_> I'm also not sure if anyone would know off the top of their head. You could test it. :) 20090116 08:12:31< YogiHH> i see :-) 20090116 08:12:50-!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@d007177.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 20090116 08:17:52-!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@d009060.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 08:20:35-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 08:51:57-!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@d009060.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 09:11:04-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 20090116 09:48:53-!- dfranke [n=dfranke@adsl-99-50-122-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net"] 20090116 09:53:58-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 09:54:47-!- Sirp_ [n=me@c-71-198-3-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 20090116 09:57:45-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 09:57:58-!- dfranke [i=dfranke@adsl-76-254-24-213.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 09:58:00-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 09:58:18< Ivanovic> moin 20090116 10:55:07-!- zookeeper [n=l@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe9ff800-215.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 10:57:27< Patterner> Moin moin 20090116 11:21:32< grzywacz> moin ;) 20090116 11:27:45-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 11:30:08< grzywacz> hey ilor 20090116 11:34:27< CIA-53> ivanovic * r32143 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-l/hu.po wesnoth-lib/hu.po wesnoth-tb/hu.po): updated Hungarian translation 20090116 11:36:13-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 11:40:56< ilor> hey grzywacz 20090116 11:41:32< ilor> hm, do we have a policy for new wml event actions in a point release in the stable series? 20090116 11:49:07< Ivanovic> ilor: they are not allowed 20090116 11:49:15< Ivanovic> the WML api is meant to be stable 20090116 11:49:39< Ivanovic> as in addons that work with the latest stable version should work the same way with the first stable version of that branch 20090116 11:49:41< Ivanovic> afk now 20090116 11:53:35-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.246.35] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 11:54:14-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.246.35] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 12:05:10-!- ilor_ [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 12:22:50-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [Connection timed out] 20090116 12:26:25< zookeeper> ilor_, thinking of any specific action? 20090116 12:27:09< ilor_> zookeeper: the map change action I'm supposed to revert 20090116 12:33:07< zookeeper> meh. 1.5.7 isn't really a beta or RC since it has obvious major issues (like the portraits/dialogs). 20090116 12:48:23-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 13:04:03< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32144 /trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/scenarios/ (6 files): Converted AOI to the new gold carryover system. 20090116 13:18:37-!- Turuk_ [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 13:18:45< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32145 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/ (11 files): Converted THoT to the new gold carryover system. 20090116 13:19:00< zookeeper> yay. only LoW and NR left, neither of which is my problem. ^_^ 20090116 13:23:19< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32146 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/20_Return_of_the_Fleet.cfg: Fixed a silly filter. 20090116 13:26:20-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 13:27:21< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32147 /trunk/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/ (08_Silent_Forest.cfg 09_Shan_Taum_The_Smug.cfg): Made "Silent Forest" and "Shan Taum the Smug" tougher. 20090116 13:40:12-!- fabi [n=fabi@g226195094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 13:42:46-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-188-113.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 13:50:40-!- ilor_ [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [] 20090116 13:50:50-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 13:51:39< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32148 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Added carryover_report=no and/or linger_mode=no to some appropriate [endlevel]s. 20090116 14:07:32-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 14:10:00< fabi> hi zookeeper 20090116 14:10:15< zookeeper> hi 20090116 14:11:17-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [] 20090116 14:13:42-!- Turuk_ is now known as Turuk 20090116 14:14:50< CIA-53> fendrin * r32149 /trunk/data/tools/emacs_mode/ (5 files): upstream update of the emacs mode to version 1.3.4a 20090116 14:33:55< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32150 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/6_Towards_the_Caves.cfg: Used proper [animate_unit]s for the cutscene. 20090116 14:34:16< zookeeper> wait...wtf has happened to the map of this scenario O.o 20090116 14:34:29< Turuk> ....? 20090116 14:34:40-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-188-113.vinita.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 14:42:36-!- BenUrban_ [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 14:44:42-!- BenUrban_ [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 14:45:23-!- BenUrban_ [n=benurban@c-68-49-10-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 14:46:52-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090116 14:46:54-!- BenUrban_ is now known as BenUrban 20090116 14:47:25-!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 14:54:16< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32151 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/maps/6_Towards_the_Caves.map: Fixed map breakage. 20090116 14:55:54< grzywacz> A `diff` for maps would be handy. ;) 20090116 14:58:03< zookeeper> yeah 20090116 14:59:04< zookeeper> i guess someone could write a little diff viewer for maps. 20090116 15:15:03< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32152 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/ (7_Outriding_of_Outriders.cfg 8_The_Dragon.cfg): Added missing carryover notes. 20090116 15:16:57-!- ettin_ [n=jorda@10.207.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 15:18:58-!- elias_ [n=elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 15:22:21-!- elias_ is now known as elias 20090116 15:25:34< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32153 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Disabled some carryover reports and added a missing note. 20090116 15:29:09-!- ettin [n=jorda@126.207.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 15:43:45< Turuk> Just a note for whoever has a chance to fix it, http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/SpellingMistakes#Son_of_the_Black_Eye 20090116 15:56:13-!- boucman [n=rosen@140.117.71-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 15:59:19< zookeeper> boucman, maybe instead of text_color=, [animate_unit] should just take the typical red,green,blue keys so that the standard {COLOR_HARM} etc macros could be used for the floating text colouring? 20090116 16:00:09< boucman> zookeeper: I'm not sure the current syntax, I'll look into it a bit later 20090116 16:01:12< zookeeper> ok 20090116 16:03:44< boucman> zookeeper: so instead of textcolor=r,g,b you want red= greeen= blue= 20090116 16:03:47< boucman> that's it ? 20090116 16:04:31< zookeeper> yes 20090116 16:04:46< zookeeper> that's how colours are given in pretty much all other places 20090116 16:04:53< boucman> k 20090116 16:07:51-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 16:15:47< boucman> zookeeper: now that mog+eleazar are not active, who's reponsible for including new tile graphics, is jetryl the only one with moral authority to do so, or do you do it from time to time ? 20090116 16:17:06< zookeeper> i've done that occasionally 20090116 16:17:52< boucman> k 20090116 16:17:56< zookeeper> i'm not interested enough to jump at the opportunity, but if jetryl or someone asks me to, then i guess i can 20090116 16:20:43< boucman> k 20090116 16:28:16< CIA-53> boucman * r32154 /trunk/src/unit_display.cpp: change the syntax of animate_unit to use red= green= blue= instead of text_color= 20090116 16:39:59-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.214] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 16:48:35-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-188-113.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 16:53:44-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-91-252.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 17:04:32< Ivanovic> boucman, crimson_penguin, elias, ESR_, freim, grzywacz, ilor, loonycyborg, Noyga, Sirp, Soliton, suokko, zookeeper: what do you think of 1.5.8 this weekend? 20090116 17:04:53< crimson_penguin> Fine with me 20090116 17:05:27< Noyga> fine with me too 20090116 17:05:43< Soliton> same. 20090116 17:06:25< Ivanovic> mordante, everyone else: release this weekend? 20090116 17:06:35< Ivanovic> if there are any blockers, please ping me 20090116 17:08:14< elias> i'm not really a contributor any longer - but i think a new release is great :) 20090116 17:09:48< crimson_penguin> I got a new 500GB internal HD (up from 160GB which was totally full), so no more problems with space :) 20090116 17:10:14< crimson_penguin> I even went so far as to delete my Wesnoth build, and intermediate build products, just to save space 20090116 17:11:55-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-188-113.vinita.lt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 17:12:39< Ivanovic> ettin_, isaac: any idea how we can translate "RACV translation" to german? 20090116 17:12:48< Ivanovic> that is: what would RACV stand for in eg english 20090116 17:13:07< isaac> uhm 20090116 17:13:40< Ivanovic> since this is the result of the "arguemnt" on the dev ml and RACV was chosen as name for the lang from this strange academy thingie 20090116 17:13:42< isaac> i am trying to figure out what the 'C' stands for 20090116 17:13:52< isaac> uhm, ok 20090116 17:14:00< isaac> Valencian Culture Royal Academy 20090116 17:14:02< isaac> or something like that 20090116 17:14:03< isaac> VCRA 20090116 17:14:42< Ivanovic> thanks 20090116 17:15:03< Ivanovic> i'll pipe this to chrber, maybe he has an idea for a good translation of this... 20090116 17:16:07< zookeeper> Ivanovic, umm, doesn't that depend on mordante? 20090116 17:16:13-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-188-113.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 17:16:58< Ivanovic> zookeeper: that is why i wrote a line with him in it, too 20090116 17:17:05< Ivanovic> so that he sees it when reading the backlog 20090116 17:17:29< zookeeper> ok 20090116 17:17:55-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [] 20090116 17:44:10-!- kitty_ [n=kitty@e180214065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 17:44:27< kitty_> hello 20090116 17:45:04< Soliton> hi 20090116 17:46:12< kitty_> hi zookeeper, i just looked through the portraits again... could you mirror the ghoul, mermaid, merman hunter and orc assassin so that they face towards the right? 20090116 17:46:21< zookeeper> kitty_, sure thing 20090116 17:46:30< kitty_> :) 20090116 17:47:19< kitty_> and the backgroundless drake clasher doesn't appear to be in trunk? or perhaps i search at the wrong places? 20090116 17:47:24< ESR_> Hi, kitty. 20090116 17:47:37< kitty_> hi ESR_ 20090116 17:48:50< kitty_> zookeeper i added the transparent background troll to the thread http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23471&start=45 20090116 17:49:42-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090116 17:49:58< zookeeper> kitty_, i didn't commit the clasher yet back then. should i just commit the 400xsomething big one or shrink it to the same size as the other drakes? 20090116 17:50:12< zookeeper> ah, awesome, i'll commit that too then. 20090116 17:51:11< kitty_> why should we commit a smaller clasher? i vote for as big as possible. 20090116 17:52:45< kitty_> and what about the scorpion portrait? will we keep on using it? should i try to remove the background? i don't know who did it, but it's rather awful imho. 20090116 17:55:09-!- ^Noyga^ [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-92-22.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 17:55:32< zookeeper> jetryl said he can do the backgroundless version 20090116 17:55:36-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-91-252.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090116 17:55:38-!- ^Noyga^ is now known as Noyga 20090116 17:55:44< zookeeper> apparently it's by him for allacrost or something 20090116 17:55:52< kitty_> ok, great 20090116 17:57:09< kitty_> jetryl will do transparent HttT portraits, right? - but does that mean that he will take care of asheviere, too? 20090116 17:57:58< zookeeper> probably 20090116 17:58:15< kitty_> i already sent transparent versions of kalenz and uradredia to fabi for LoW, somebody should add those to httt, too... 20090116 18:02:20< fabi> kitty_: uradredia is a protagonist in httt? 20090116 18:03:03< fabi> I guess he is part of that council. 20090116 18:04:26< kitty_> fabi: his portrait is used in httt definitively, but i don't remember where or when... could you add his and kalenz' transparent portraits? 20090116 18:07:24< fabi> kitty_: yes, I will take care about this. 20090116 18:07:44< kitty_> great - thanks! :) 20090116 18:08:02< fabi> you are welcome 20090116 18:12:31< fabi> kitty_: is there an image of old delfador that fit's to the younger one which was made for low and dm? 20090116 18:13:14-!- Turuk_ [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 18:13:33< kitty_> fabi: uh, no - none that i did. but Jet could have something nice for you soon ;) 20090116 18:17:08< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32155 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/images/portraits/rugnur.png: Smoothed out a cutoff in a shiny bit. 20090116 18:20:34-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20090116 18:23:47-!- Turuk_ is now known as Turuk 20090116 18:32:09< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32156 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/Alex_Jarocha-Ernst/ (ghoul.png mermaid-initiate.png orcish-assassin.png): Mirrored a couple of left-facing portraits. 20090116 18:39:58-!- kitty_ [n=kitty@e180214065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["bye"] 20090116 18:40:51< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32157 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/Alex_Jarocha-Ernst/drake-clasher.png: Backgroundless drake clasher portrait. 20090116 18:41:18< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32158 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/James_Woo/troll.png: Backgroundless troll portrait. 20090116 18:42:09< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32159 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/Alex_Jarocha-Ernst/merman-hunter.png: Oops, forgot the merman hunter from r32156. 20090116 18:43:07< grzywacz> Ivanovic, good, this way I won't break anything just before the release ;) 20090116 18:43:45< Ivanovic> grzywacz: uhm, what do you plan to commit? 20090116 18:45:09< grzywacz> Ivanovic, command line parsing. Nothing serious, but I didn't have time to touch it since last Sunday or so. 20090116 18:45:29-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-202-137.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 18:45:35< [Relic]> Hello :) 20090116 18:45:53< grzywacz> hey [Relic] 20090116 18:46:05< [Relic]> :) 20090116 18:47:16< grzywacz> Lone smileys don't spook me. ;-) 20090116 18:54:53< fabi> spook, the vulcan guy? 20090116 19:03:08< CIA-53> fendrin * r32160 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/images/portraits/ (kalenz.png uradredia.png): HttT: updated the portraits of Uradredia and Kalenz to transparent ones. 20090116 19:10:12< [Relic]> how about in groups? :) :) :) :) :) 20090116 19:11:19-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@moinmoin/developer/karol] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Nooo, no groups! ><"] 20090116 19:19:23-!- Sirp_ [n=me@c-71-198-3-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 19:27:44-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 19:29:01-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 19:34:14< boucman> zookeeper: could we commit these, or would you want some jetryl feedback first ? 20090116 19:34:48-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@moinmoin/developer/karol] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 19:34:58< Sirp_> hi grzywacz 20090116 19:39:30< grzywacz> hey Sirp_ 20090116 19:43:38< zookeeper> boucman, err, what these? 20090116 19:43:58< boucman> new terrain graphics 20090116 19:45:16< zookeeper> i think i'll wait for jetryl at least for the cactus stuff 20090116 19:45:31< boucman> k, make sense 20090116 19:45:57< grzywacz> Sirp_, so, did you like that piece of code? ;) 20090116 19:46:18< Sirp_> grzywacz: it is rather nice code. ;) 20090116 19:49:14-!- Psyche^ [n=Psyche@e177226159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 19:50:34-!- Patterner [n=Psyche@d137017.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090116 19:50:34-!- Psyche^ is now known as Patterner 20090116 19:50:50< grzywacz> Sirp_, I find that explicit invocation of a destructor a little bit disturbing 20090116 20:01:04< Sirp_> grzywacz: oh...I missed that part.... 20090116 20:01:43< Sirp_> which line is that on? 20090116 20:02:05< Sirp_> ohh I see it now 20090116 20:02:54< Sirp_> ummm we need to fix that up 20090116 20:02:56< boucman> Sirp_: did you find some time to look at the network crash ? 20090116 20:02:56< Sirp_> that is perverse 20090116 20:03:09< Sirp_> boucman: no, not yet; sorry. What is the bug ID? 20090116 20:03:17< boucman> let me look 20090116 20:03:41< boucman> bug 12817 20090116 20:03:48< Sirp_> grzywacz: do you know whose code that is? Mist's? Baufo's? 20090116 20:04:07-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.183.198] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 20:04:20< Sirp_> explicitly calling a destructor should always be rare in C++ and should NEVER be done on an automatic/stack variable. 20090116 20:04:45< Sirp_> it is deep magic, not to be played with lightly 20090116 20:05:02< Sirp_> and in this code we can call the destructor on the same object multiple times. 20090116 20:05:19< boucman> ouch 20090116 20:06:21< Sirp_> actually though MD5 has a trivial destructor 20090116 20:06:30< Sirp_> so we can simply remove this call without affecting behavior 20090116 20:08:16< grzywacz> Sirp_, don't know whose. I've just noticed it in one of the commits, but not in the one that added it. I would also give a different name to the temp object in do { } 20090116 20:08:57< Sirp_> grzywacz: indeed...there are LOTS of things that are very confusing about this code. But the destructor call is the truly perverse thing. 20090116 20:09:12< Sirp_> grzywacz: I definitely think all this md5 code should be put in a seperate src file, not directly in multiplayer.cpp 20090116 20:09:22< CIA-53> ivanovic * r32161 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): updated German and Russian translation 20090116 20:10:51< grzywacz> Sirp_, yup 20090116 20:11:06-!- Alesis-Novik_ [n=alesis@78.60.188.59] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 20:11:22-!- Alesis-Novik_ [n=alesis@78.60.188.59] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 20:12:28< CIA-53> dave * r32162 /trunk/src/multiplayer.cpp: removed perverse explicit destructor call 20090116 20:14:09-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.183.198] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 20:18:42-!- elias [n=elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090116 20:26:55< CIA-53> ivanovic * r32163 /trunk/ (12 files in 11 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation 20090116 20:32:18-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 20:37:23-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 20:41:51-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@91.108.183.198] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 20:48:17< CIA-53> torangan * r32164 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-ei/da.po wesnoth-tutorial/da.po): danish translation update 20090116 20:48:26-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 20:55:19< Ivanovic> zookeeper: there is a lovely bug in ANL 20090116 20:55:41< loonycyborg> It looks like that my services as Russian translation maintainer aren't needed after all :) 20090116 20:55:43< Ivanovic> if you free the ones captured by the spiders, the image is change but not to the correct unit image 20090116 20:56:05 * Shadow_Master_ hopes that the infinite replay length bug has been fixed already :p 20090116 21:02:16-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 21:03:36< ilor> Ivanovic: I'm okay with 1.5.8, don't have much time lately anyway to do stuff 20090116 21:04:43< Shadow_Master_> there's a bad bug with replays. No sides do anything and the turn counter keeps rising above the turn limit 20090116 21:05:19< Shadow_Master_> since I see no CIA message containing "replay" , I assume it wasn't fixed (while I try to update my wokring copy..) 20090116 21:06:58< Shadow_Master_> (I'd call it a blocker) 20090116 21:10:59< Shadow_Master_> boucman: I submitted a new bug about animations 20090116 21:11:06< boucman> k 20090116 21:11:12< boucman> what is it ? 20090116 21:11:20< Shadow_Master_> however I'm not sure if you are the right person for it 20090116 21:11:34< Shadow_Master_> wesbot: bug #12867 20090116 21:11:34< wesbot> Bug #12867 Assigned to: Jérémy Rosen Status: None Priority: 5 - Normal 20090116 21:11:37< wesbot> Summary: Units with [standing_anim] do not honor layering and have glitchy selection anims 20090116 21:11:40< wesbot> Original submission: Units which are using a [standing_anim], such as Wolf Rid 20090116 21:11:43< wesbot> er, Wolf and Sky Drake in mainline, do not honor layering and are drawn above th 20090116 21:11:46< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?12867 20090116 21:11:51< Shadow_Master_> that. 20090116 21:11:59< boucman> hmm 20090116 21:12:02< boucman> I'll look into it 20090116 21:12:14< Shadow_Master_> I was unsure whether to assign it to you or mordante. 20090116 21:14:03< boucman> to me I guess 20090116 21:14:05-!- Dragonking [n=dk@dedikerad/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 21:16:03< Ivanovic> zookeeper: this line in ANL_special_macros.cfg: {VARIABLE critter.overlays "none"} 20090116 21:16:13< Ivanovic> somehow "none" is used for overlaying over the units 20090116 21:16:37< Shadow_Master_> {CLEAR_VARIABLE critter.overlays} ? 20090116 21:17:14< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master_: i just know that the result is *interesting* regarding the units that are freeed in anl 20090116 21:17:39< Shadow_Master_> I was just giving a suggestion. k. 20090116 21:20:48-!- fabi [n=fabi@g226195094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 21:36:37< Shadow_Master_> the artwork upgrades are making it impossible for git to catch up... 20090116 21:41:19< Shadow_Master_> um... I hate svn (the protocol) again. 20090116 21:41:29-!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 21:42:32< ilor> Shadow_Master_: why? 20090116 21:43:24< Shadow_Master_> it seems to be too heavy for simple 4 line patch commits 20090116 21:43:39< Shadow_Master_> (and renaming/move operations aren't atomic, etc.) 20090116 21:44:26< ilor> huh? short patches usually result in, well, shirt data being sent 20090116 21:44:42< Shadow_Master_> and I had to wait 6 minutes for it to finish the commit. 20090116 21:45:14< Shadow_Master_> while still being able to chat on IRC. 20090116 21:45:33< ilor> that could be gna though 20090116 21:45:44< Shadow_Master_> and SF.net. 20090116 21:50:49< CIA-53> ivanovic * r32165 /trunk/po/wesnoth-anl/de.po: updated German translation 20090116 21:51:59-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 20090116 21:52:03-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 21:54:20 * Ivanovic is running a pot-update for the joy of all "not so broadband" users 20090116 21:54:22< Ivanovic> ;) 20090116 21:55:20< Shadow_Master> aaaaaaaaargh. 20090116 21:55:39< grzywacz> The approaching release has summoned Ivanovic from hell. ;> 20090116 21:55:43< Shadow_Master> well, that isn't as bad as a bunch of portrait updates. 20090116 21:56:38 * Shadow_Master goes to hunt more blockers. 20090116 21:58:48-!- YogiHH [i=YogiHH@c186176.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 21:58:59< YogiHH> hello everyone 20090116 21:59:03< Ivanovic> hi YogiHH 20090116 21:59:12< YogiHH> Soliton, are you listening? 20090116 22:01:22< Shadow_Master> YogiHH: hello. 20090116 22:01:37< Shadow_Master> do replays in trunk work for any of you at the moment? 20090116 22:02:29< CIA-53> ivanovic * r32166 /trunk/ (567 files in 14 dirs): 20090116 22:02:29< CIA-53> pot-update 20090116 22:02:29< CIA-53> regenerated doc files 20090116 22:02:52< Soliton> YogiHH: yes. 20090116 22:03:01< Shadow_Master> I cannot recompile latest trunk to test yet, and I would like to file a bug report as soon as possible ;) 20090116 22:03:13< YogiHH> Soliton: i think i found the cause for the baneblade/staff problem 20090116 22:04:08< YogiHH> Soliton: the attack prediction takes drain into account, but it drains from the remaining hitpoints of the unit 20090116 22:04:29< YogiHH> and it uses integer calculation 20090116 22:04:29< grzywacz> loonycyborg, ping? 20090116 22:04:53< YogiHH> so if the defender has 1 hp left, 1/2 = 0 with integers 20090116 22:05:04< Soliton> YogiHH: i explained the cause, no? 20090116 22:05:28< YogiHH> i don't think so 20090116 22:06:17< YogiHH> i thought this was supposed to be the desired behaviour, drain from the remaining hitpoints. Maybe i misunderstood you? 20090116 22:06:33< Soliton> no, that's correct. 20090116 22:06:41< Soliton> so what was there to figure out? 20090116 22:07:03< YogiHH> then there is no difference between drain and no drain, unless you switch to floating points and round up 20090116 22:07:19< Soliton> yes. 20090116 22:07:23< YogiHH> with integers, it's not a bug, it's correct behaviour 20090116 22:08:10< Soliton> i know it's not a bug when we take it as the desired behaviour. 20090116 22:08:23-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 22:08:26< Soliton> but the desired behaviour is not how it really works! 20090116 22:08:30< YogiHH> oh 20090116 22:08:38-!- Turuk [n=JDiSab@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 22:09:06< YogiHH> Soliton: what do you expect in our little testcase, then? 20090116 22:09:23< grzywacz> How do I add a new library dependency for wesnoth using scons? Can't find where to specify the -l option... 20090116 22:10:00< Soliton> YogiHH: well, either choose drain because atm we do drain based on the hit damage or change drain so it depends on the actual remaining HP of the victim. 20090116 22:10:55< YogiHH> Soliton: ah, now i got you :-) 20090116 22:11:10< Soliton> ok. :-) 20090116 22:11:13< YogiHH> Soliton: i already figured out how to do the first, but i suspect you prefer the latter, right? 20090116 22:11:51< Soliton> YogiHH: yes, but that's probably a bigger change. 20090116 22:12:12 * YogiHH goes check 20090116 22:12:12< Soliton> i don't mind if you just fix it as a bug. 20090116 22:14:35< grzywacz> Ah, a valid concern: https://gna.org/bugs/?12868 20090116 22:16:41 * Soliton suspects nobody plays hotseat. 20090116 22:17:33< grzywacz> I do. :-) 20090116 22:18:24< grzywacz> Much better experience than network if you actually have all the players in one place. Feels more like a party with breaks for Wesnoth. ;) 20090116 22:18:33-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit ["aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh......"] 20090116 22:19:17< Soliton> then fix it! 20090116 22:19:26< grzywacz> Woo hoo! Maybe I will. :) 20090116 22:19:45< grzywacz> Just after I figure out how to add a library to link with to scons scripts :P 20090116 22:20:28< Soliton> env.Append(LINKFLAGS = 20090116 22:25:20-!- ilor [n=user@unaffiliated/ilor] has quit [Connection timed out] 20090116 22:26:52-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 22:27:47< Shadow_Master> is it possible to monitor network activity per process? 20090116 22:29:41 * Shadow_Master wonders if git-svn sitting for 15 minutes is a bad sign 20090116 22:30:29< grzywacz> Shadow_Master, netstat 20090116 22:33:27< Shadow_Master> looks like it is just waiting for a miracle. 20090116 22:34:03< loonycyborg> grzywacz: pong 20090116 22:34:37< Shadow_Master> uhm, it is working again (15 minutes for a single file?) 20090116 22:36:18< loonycyborg> grzywacz: If you want to add boost::program_options, you'd better add conf.CheckBoost("program_options") in appropriate place :) 20090116 22:37:11< grzywacz> loonycyborg, ok, is that going to -l it at an appropriate time? 20090116 22:37:21< loonycyborg> Yes. 20090116 22:37:47< grzywacz> Coolnes! 20090116 22:39:06< grzywacz> Works indeed... 20090116 22:39:15 * Shadow_Master takes his dagger to offer more blood to the RF god 20090116 22:44:00< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32167 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/ANL_utils/ANL_special_macros.cfg: Clear a unit overlay properly instead of setting to a dummy value. 20090116 23:02:33-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 23:02:51< boucman> I don't understand the reasoning : http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=332812#p332812 20090116 23:03:01< boucman> even when considering who's actually posting 20090116 23:03:21< zookeeper> considering who's actually posting, i don't see why you'd care 20090116 23:03:33< Turuk> Agreed, I am not even going to bother explaining how balding works to him. 20090116 23:03:34< boucman> zookeeper: good point :P 20090116 23:03:35-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 23:03:46< Turuk> People do not choose to bald by shaving their heads. ;) 20090116 23:04:19< boucman> some do, but that's not really the point 20090116 23:04:31< boucman> your ot link in the moderator was... wow 20090116 23:04:58< Turuk> Yeah, I know. SM locked it, I was just going to ignore it 20090116 23:05:05< Turuk> As most people ignore him anymore 20090116 23:06:05< Shadow_Master_> SM == Shadow_Master I presume 20090116 23:06:11< Shadow_Master_> I am Shadow_Master_ , so I've got nothing to do with it. 20090116 23:06:21< Turuk> Ha. Yes, I usually call you SM 20090116 23:06:28< grzywacz> Sailor Moon? 20090116 23:06:40< Shadow_Master_> oh noes ^_^ 20090116 23:06:55< Shadow_Master_> Turuk: it gives me unnecessary trouble when grepping the logs. 20090116 23:07:24< Turuk> Well, I only use it in instances like that, where I did not think it would matter one way or the other if you were mentioned 20090116 23:07:33< Turuk> but from now on, I will use your name in all my messages ;) 20090116 23:09:06< Shadow_Master_> if I get a single PM from him, I'll throw it into /dev/null 20090116 23:09:23< Turuk> Ooo 20090116 23:09:27< Turuk> This has to be 20090116 23:09:28< Turuk> the best 20090116 23:09:30< Turuk> post by him 20090116 23:09:38< Turuk> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=332816#p332816 20090116 23:09:53< boucman> please share the laugh, forward to moderator forum any PM from him :D 20090116 23:10:15< Shadow_Master_> Turuk: weeelll... 20090116 23:10:37< Turuk> He called himself the Master of Nothing. Could it not be more fitting? 20090116 23:10:42< Shadow_Master_> boucman: you are my hero. you made me laugh after a very frustrating day. 20090116 23:10:55< Shadow_Master_> cookie for you 20090116 23:10:58< boucman> it was a pleasure to help :) 20090116 23:11:13< boucman> patch monkeys can't be bribed with cookies 20090116 23:11:20< boucman> try bananas 20090116 23:11:34 * Shadow_Master_ hands boucman a banana then 20090116 23:12:12< Shadow_Master_> I don't have more :/ 20090116 23:16:13< Ivanovic> okay, cobra is *really* annoying me... 20090116 23:16:25< Ivanovic> so what do you think: banning for a month for the moment? 20090116 23:16:36< crimson_penguin> what's cobra doing? 20090116 23:17:25-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 23:17:44< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: he exists 20090116 23:17:49< Turuk> Two weeks at the least, a month is preferable 20090116 23:17:52< crimson_penguin> heh, right 20090116 23:17:55-!- Shadow_Master_ [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090116 23:18:06< Ivanovic> i'd say a month 20090116 23:18:11< Ivanovic> Turuk: will you write him a pm` 20090116 23:18:15< Ivanovic> s/`/? 20090116 23:18:21< Turuk> Certainly 20090116 23:18:28< boucman> IIRC he already has been banned a couple of times, 20090116 23:18:34< Turuk> Along the lines of what I posted in the moderator's forum? 20090116 23:18:38< Ivanovic> i'd say a mixture between the first part and the 2nd in your post in the mod forum 20090116 23:18:42< grzywacz> Is he really that harmful, other than being clueless? 20090116 23:18:42< Turuk> Haha ok. 20090116 23:18:50< Ivanovic> the first one is too polite for him to understand it 20090116 23:18:51-!- fnaek [n=fnaek@athedsl-4497637.home.otenet.gr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 23:18:58< Ivanovic> the 2nd does not explain enough 20090116 23:18:58< boucman> so unlike my usual attitude, I think a long ban is in order, maybe permanant. 20090116 23:19:10< boucman> we did offer him chances to change his attitude 20090116 23:19:25< Ivanovic> boucman: how i see him, one month will probably make him vanish completely 20090116 23:19:37< boucman> worth trying... 20090116 23:19:44< zookeeper> so one month sounds good 20090116 23:20:53< boucman> our other hope is that he gets bored of wesnoth... 20090116 23:21:03< boucman> ... our game is too adictive for our own good :) 20090116 23:21:32< Shadow_Master> I don't remember that cobra had been banned before. 20090116 23:21:51< boucman> I thought he had been 20090116 23:21:57< boucman> maybe I'm messing up 20090116 23:22:00< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: uhm, no 20090116 23:22:04< Ivanovic> i had not banned him 20090116 23:22:09< boucman> ok, my bad, then 20090116 23:22:10< Shadow_Master> correct 20090116 23:22:14< Ivanovic> and probably noone else by now is banning people 20090116 23:22:41< Shadow_Master> torangan perhaps? 20090116 23:23:40< Turuk> Ivanovic, is this somewhere between the two? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=332729#p332729 20090116 23:24:44< Shadow_Master> boucman: "[patching] can be done even by stupid animals"... then I'm stupider than stupid. 20090116 23:25:00< Shadow_Master> I always find one or two conflicts when applying external patches :P 20090116 23:25:05< boucman> patching can be... 20090116 23:25:21< boucman> the hard part is getting the patch in a state where it's ready to be merged :P 20090116 23:25:31< Shadow_Master> ah, k 20090116 23:25:38-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-79-132-188-113.vinita.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 23:25:57-!- Dragonking [n=dk@dedikerad/dragonking] has quit [] 20090116 23:26:20< YogiHH> Soliton: works as desired, game mechanics match attack prediction now 20090116 23:27:21-!- Sapient [n=sapien-x@c-24-126-133-155.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 23:27:38< Sapient> yo 20090116 23:27:44< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: s/stupider/more stupid 20090116 23:27:45< grzywacz> oy 20090116 23:27:45< Ivanovic> ;) 20090116 23:27:46< zookeeper> yo wazap! 20090116 23:27:47< Ivanovic> hi Sapient 20090116 23:27:57< Sapient> yo Ivanovic 20090116 23:27:58< Sapient> hello zookeeper 20090116 23:28:01< Sapient> yo grzywacz 20090116 23:28:13< Ivanovic> Sapient: are you fine with a 1.5.8 release "soon" (tm) 20090116 23:28:22< Soliton> YogiHH: cool! 20090116 23:28:26< Ivanovic> (if possible tomorrow) 20090116 23:28:26< Sapient> soon how very soon? 20090116 23:28:33< Ivanovic> YogiHH: what about you and 1.5.8? 20090116 23:28:46< Sapient> I suppose... 20090116 23:29:09< YogiHH> Ivanovic: fine with me, nothing in the pipe really 20090116 23:32:31< Sapient> Shadow_Master: did you get a chance to test r32142 20090116 23:32:39< zookeeper> well, if mordante gets the portrait stuff done tomorrow, sounds good to me 20090116 23:32:43< zookeeper> tomorrow evening i presume. 20090116 23:33:08-!- fnaek [n=fnaek@athedsl-4497637.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 23:33:49< CIA-53> jhinrichs * r32168 /trunk/ (changelog src/actions.cpp): Adjusts drain game mechanics to match attack prediction (bug #7702). 20090116 23:34:01-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Client Quit] 20090116 23:38:15< grzywacz> YogiHH, O_o, is this code really repeated 2 times? 20090116 23:39:08 * Sapient gasp 20090116 23:39:16< YogiHH> grzywacz: sort of, it is done for the attacker and defender respectively. And yes, there is a lot of potential for modularizing ;-) 20090116 23:39:26< Ivanovic> zookeeper: can you have a look at the strange problem with ANL? 20090116 23:39:37< Ivanovic> that when you free a unit, some strange overlay is put above the unit 20090116 23:39:46< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i already fixed that 20090116 23:39:49< Ivanovic> i don't know where the image really comes from 20090116 23:39:52< Ivanovic> ahhh, great 20090116 23:39:56< zookeeper> presumably the strange overlay was the yellow peasants-at-work sign. 20090116 23:40:05< YogiHH> grzywacz: which i didn't dive into, because we are approaching final releases and i don't want to mess with bigger parts of the code now ;-)) 20090116 23:40:13< grzywacz> YogiHH, kk ;-> 20090116 23:40:19< Ivanovic> yes, that it was 20090116 23:40:34< YogiHH> grzywacz: unless you volunteer for bugfixing, that is ;-) 20090116 23:40:35< zookeeper> that's the image-not-found image 20090116 23:40:53< grzywacz> YogiHH, on the other hand, if you messed it up, the release would be delayed, so you would have more time for fixing ;) 20090116 23:41:02< YogiHH> lol 20090116 23:42:21< Ivanovic> zookeeper: i was not aware that we *have* such an image... 20090116 23:45:28-!- voris [n=voris@c-24-16-107-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 23:45:40-!- voris [n=voris@c-24-16-107-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090116 23:47:54-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@unaffiliated/shadowmaster/x-275924] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090116 23:48:06< Soliton> YogiHH: you're not checking against max HP in one case now. 20090116 23:49:48< Soliton> YogiHH: you can just take the minimum of all 3 values now. (damage/2, diff to max HP of drainer, remaining HP of victim) 20090116 23:50:37< YogiHH> Soliton: ah, you are correct, i will fix that 20090116 23:50:49< Soliton> (well, halve the last value as well.) 20090116 23:51:47-!- ESR_ [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 23:52:25< Soliton> YogiHH: also please use tabs for indentation. :-) 20090116 23:52:57< YogiHH> Soliton: hmm, i did (i always do) 20090116 23:53:39< Soliton> well, your editor converted those then or something. 20090116 23:55:58-!- fabi [n=fabi@g226195094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090116 23:57:28< CIA-53> zookeeper * r32169 /trunk/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/04c.Mal-Ravanals_Capital.cfg: Made the guards swing at the right direction and prevented the prison dialogue from not triggering in some cases. 20090116 23:58:26-!- boucman [n=rosen@140.117.71-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090116 23:58:57-!- Espreon [n=espreon@c-76-117-239-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] --- Log closed Sat Jan 17 00:00:05 2009