--- Log opened Sat Jan 03 00:00:20 2009 --- Day changed Sat Jan 03 2009 20090103 00:00:20-!- Gnutoo [n=gnutoo@host14-134-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090103 00:11:34-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-250-61-19.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 00:13:26-!- Ken_Oh [n=Ken_Oh@c-69-250-61-19.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20090103 00:16:45-!- lizard_r [n=rolf@W95f9.w.pppool.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20090103 00:17:06-!- Pershire [n=Pershire@cpe-72-130-162-211.san.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 00:30:17-!- fendrin [n=fabi@g227034255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 00:33:50-!- woden [n=woden@62.225.51.119] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 00:34:00< woden> Is there a way to list the spectators in a multiplayer game? 20090103 00:34:22< zookeeper> the eye icon in the top right? 20090103 00:34:29< Soliton> mouse over the spying eye. 20090103 00:35:13< woden> don't see that eye 20090103 00:35:30< Soliton> no observers then. 20090103 00:35:32< zookeeper> then there are no spectators or you're using a non-default theme perhaps. 20090103 00:36:10< woden> alrighty 20090103 00:36:27< Soliton> now there is one. 20090103 00:39:37< Soliton> wow, you really rather attacked a random unit instead of killing a leader. 20090103 00:40:50< zookeeper> it would be too easy otherwise. 20090103 00:42:27< zookeeper> one's skills can be determined by the amount of winning moves you can forego ;) 20090103 00:42:51< zookeeper> err, wrong word 20090103 00:42:54 * zookeeper looks in a dictionary 20090103 00:43:22< zookeeper> bypass, skip, neglect 20090103 00:43:28< Turuk> disregard? 20090103 00:43:34< zookeeper> yes 20090103 00:43:35< Turuk> ignore? 20090103 00:43:40< woden> hi 20090103 00:44:06< woden> I was wondering, are there any other free games that you guys enjoy playing? 20090103 00:44:13< woden> real time strategy perhaps? 20090103 00:44:26 * zookeeper shrugs 20090103 00:44:29< zookeeper> enemy territory maybe 20090103 00:46:09< Ivanovic> n8 20090103 00:46:12< Turuk> other games exist besides wesnoth? 20090103 00:46:14< Turuk> hmm 20090103 00:46:33< woden> Ivanovic: what is n8 20090103 00:46:44< Soliton> n7+1 20090103 00:46:57< woden> I tried to play freeciv but my brain responded with "bleh" 20090103 00:49:18< krt_> woden: tremoulus, enemy terrority, warsow, sauerbraten if you are into fps games 20090103 00:50:44< zookeeper> Soliton, eh, do you remember the name of that some new civ/colonization -like game (with ships and stuff) which's pretty UI i commented on maybe a couple of months ago? i'm having trouble finding it.. 20090103 00:51:06< krt_> woden: for strategy: glest and advanced startegic command / project battle planets, freeciv, free transport tycoon 20090103 00:51:40< krt_> there is currently openanno in the early development which i am looking forward to 20090103 00:52:13< Soliton> zookeeper: nope. i either didn't look or it was probably windows only? 20090103 00:52:38< zookeeper> hrhm, ok. 20090103 00:52:58< zookeeper> ah yes, openanno is what i meant 20090103 00:53:08< Soliton> oh. 20090103 00:53:15< Soliton> looking forward to that as well. 20090103 00:54:02< woden> krt_: This? http://www.battle-planet.de/ 20090103 00:57:05< krt_> woden: yes, but i'd rather stick to http://www.asc-hq.org/ 20090103 00:58:10< krt_> pbp is based upon asc, so you'd should checkout asc before :) 20090103 01:00:56< woden> Why was I on a hex that said 60% for my unit, but when I went to attack another unit it said 30%? 20090103 01:01:09< woden> bowman on a village said 60% 20090103 01:01:32< woden> but attack menu said 30% 20090103 01:01:46< Soliton> well, did you move+attack? 20090103 01:01:49< woden> no 20090103 01:01:59< woden> I just looked at the menu then pressed cancel 20090103 01:02:15< zookeeper> and? 20090103 01:02:44< zookeeper> if you have 30% defense somewhere then you have 30% defense somewhere. you're apparently somewhere where you have 30%. 20090103 01:02:46-!- Miccoh [i=Miccoh@cs181121153.pp.htv.fi] has quit ["Poks"] 20090103 01:02:58< zookeeper> like, not on a village 20090103 01:03:38< woden> no i was on a village 20090103 01:03:44< woden> attacking a forest hex 20090103 01:03:56< woden> when i mouse over the village, it said 60% 20090103 01:04:02-!- cyberix [n=cyberix@hoasnet-ff07dd00-229.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090103 01:04:04< woden> but in the attack menu it said 30% 20090103 01:04:28< zookeeper> for the enemy unit in the forest? 20090103 01:06:06< woden> no for me in the village 20090103 01:06:32< woden> i was in isar's cross at 12,9 20090103 01:06:33< zookeeper> take a screenshot. 20090103 01:06:36< woden> attacking 12,8 20090103 01:06:46< Rrenys> and the enemy had "magical" attack? 20090103 01:06:58 * zookeeper slaps forehead 20090103 01:07:01< zookeeper> yeah. 20090103 01:07:27-!- cyberix [n=cyberix@hoasnet-ff07dd00-229.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 01:07:48< woden> I dont remember what the enemy unit was unfortunately 20090103 01:08:53< zookeeper> well there's your answer anyway. 20090103 01:09:25< zookeeper> presumably your unit was a dark adept since otherwise you'd have seen that your defense varies by attack and would have mentioned that. 20090103 01:11:13< woden> no it was loyalist unit 20090103 01:12:14< zookeeper> glad to hear there's no problem anymore. 20090103 01:13:25< woden> so attacking a magic unit, always is 30%? 20090103 01:13:51< zookeeper> attacks with the magical special always have 30% chance to hit. 20090103 01:14:02< Soliton> s/hit/miss/ 20090103 01:14:12< zookeeper> oops :) 20090103 01:18:30-!- Xjs [i=Xjs@mmpf.org] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 20090103 01:31:04-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@AVelizy-151-1-83-225.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090103 01:34:20< woden> What does s/hit/miss/ mean? 20090103 01:34:28< zookeeper> replace hit with miss 20090103 01:34:55< woden> So 70% chance to hit 20090103 01:34:59< zookeeper> yesss. 20090103 01:35:37< zookeeper> you know, you can hover over almost everything that's displayed in the unit info in the right panel to view the details. 20090103 01:39:33-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@66-189-15-130.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Hi! 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You are running linux 1.4.3? 20090103 18:51:45< Rhonda> But leaving the joke aside, try a.) 1.4.7, and b.) you propably haven't installed the fonts, too. Where did you get the version/how did you install it? 20090103 18:51:53< a_b> Wesnoth 1.4.3 , of course :) 20090103 18:52:31< a_b> Via Portage (Gentoo) 20090103 18:52:49< a_b> I'm currently downloading 1.4.7 but that will take a while 20090103 18:55:07< Rhonda> Portage only has 1.4.3? And it doesn't do the font install properly? 20090103 18:55:48< a_b> Rhonda: It has 1.4.7 20090103 18:56:14< a_b> I installed a while ago, back then it worked 20090103 19:01:45< Rhonda> So why did you chose 1.4.3 this time? *puzzled* :) 20090103 19:05:05< a_b> I didn't choose anything, that's still the old installation 20090103 19:10:52-!- Unnheulu|Laptop_ is now known as Unnheulu|Laptop 20090103 19:11:21-!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090103 19:13:19-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@24-177-37-183.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 19:19:32-!- kitty_ [n=kitty@e180200017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 19:29:09-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@24-177-37-183.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090103 19:33:56-!- karmue [n=karli@e178172084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 19:51:12-!- Baufo [n=thomas@62-47-152-202.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 19:57:36< a_b> Just upgraded to 1.4.7, still the same error 20090103 20:07:26-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20090103 20:10:52< Soliton> post the complete output. 20090103 20:24:20-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 20:40:59-!- bhagabhi [n=bhagabhi@h149n2c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 20:46:15-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@89.155.235.20] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 20:47:13< a_b> Soliton: http://dpaste.com/104963/ 20090103 20:54:06-!- Smar [n=smar@freenet/translator/finnish/Smar] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090103 20:55:27-!- Smar [n=smar@a88-113-60-192.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 20:55:42-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 20090103 20:57:35-!- fendrin_ [n=fabi@e176251131.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 20:59:49-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 21:13:02-!- fendrin [n=fabi@g227034255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090103 21:31:49-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 21:36:53-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20090103 21:40:59< Soliton> a_b: run it with --log-info=all 20090103 21:41:03-!- Elven_ [n=stano@ig511.imafex.sk] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 21:42:33< a_b> http://dpaste.com/104988/ 20090103 21:46:05< Soliton> a_b: the game doesn't find data/hardwired/fonts.cfg. did the install go well? do you have old data lying around? 20090103 21:47:36< a_b> Soliton: The file exists 20090103 21:47:56< a_b> But strangely the wesnoth folder is owned by root:mysql 20090103 21:48:29< a_b> *was :) 20090103 21:48:56< a_b> It works now, thanks 20090103 21:52:17< Soliton> no problem. 20090103 21:52:51-!- KoZo_playing [n=greg@93.5.162.188] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20090103 21:54:33-!- uzsolt [n=uzsolt@catv54039A3B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090103 21:58:22-!- bhagabhi [n=bhagabhi@h149n2c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Lämnar"] 20090103 22:05:57-!- ettin [n=jorda@103.207.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090103 22:27:10-!- krt_ [n=krt@dslb-088-064-190-030.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 22:28:31-!- krt [n=krt@dslb-088-066-006-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090103 22:34:55-!- kitty_ [n=kitty@e180200017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 20090103 22:42:34-!- Pershire [n=Pershire@cpe-72-130-162-211.san.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 22:49:43-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:10:06-!- IAmNotShadowMast [n=ignacior@190.196.28.74] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:10:32-!- IAmNotShadowMast [n=ignacior@190.196.28.74] has quit [Client Quit] 20090103 23:12:14-!- NotShadowMaster [n=ignacior@190.196.28.74] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:12:17-!- Shadow_Master is now known as irmorelle 20090103 23:12:28-!- NotShadowMaster is now known as Shadow_Master 20090103 23:12:43-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacior@190.196.28.74] has quit [Client Quit] 20090103 23:13:11-!- irmorelle is now known as Shadow_Master 20090103 23:13:54-!- Elven_ [n=stano@ig511.imafex.sk] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090103 23:14:51-!- Pershire [n=Pershire@cpe-72-130-162-211.san.res.rr.com] has quit [] 20090103 23:15:14-!- ettin [n=jorda@174.206.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:16:26-!- Realcoolguy [n=Realcool@75-134-141-173.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:18:10-!- Realcoolguy [n=Realcool@75-134-141-173.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20090103 23:28:42-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@24-177-37-183.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:35:40-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc1-pnth1-0-0-cust903.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090103 23:44:06-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@24-177-37-183.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090103 23:52:47-!- Realcoolguy [n=Realcool@75-134-141-173.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090103 23:54:21-!- |DAMAGE| [n=DAMAGE@ool-45711e58.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Sun Jan 04 00:00:55 2009