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20090108 00:00:35< Shadow_Master> who the hell was asking... no I have got no idea who the hell is ShikadiLord
20090108 00:01:09< Turuk> ha
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20090108 01:44:36< Deformalite> Invasion from the unkown - Strike on new Knalga is rather difficult.
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20090108 01:46:46< Deformalite> The rest of iftu was extremely easy.
20090108 01:46:51< Deformalite> This is just hard.
20090108 01:47:02< Zen_Clark> Are there any plans on translating Wesnoth to lojban?
20090108 01:48:55< Deformalite> Lol.
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20090108 01:56:24< Zen_Clark> Serious question, no joke. Has anyone attempted or mentioned translating it to lojban?
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20090108 02:04:49< thespaceinvader> Zen_Clark: http://wesnoth.org/wiki/WesnothTranslations
20090108 02:05:06< thespaceinvader> I don't believe a lojban translation has ever been attempted
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20090108 02:06:49< Zen_Clark> O.k.
20090108 02:10:03< Deformalite> That is because no one speaks lojban.
20090108 02:10:07< Deformalite> How could they translate it.
20090108 02:10:09< Deformalite> :)
20090108 02:11:05< Zen_Clark> People speak lojban, just not many. Although only a couple can speak it fluently.
20090108 02:11:21< Deformalite> No one. :)
20090108 02:11:43< Zen_Clark> Join the lojban channel here.
20090108 02:11:57< Deformalite> Nah.
20090108 02:11:58< Zen_Clark> Tell them that.
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20090108 05:36:02< phixxor> sup y'alls
20090108 05:36:47< phixxor> I'm looking for an old campaign called a gryphon's tale -- on the forums I read that it has been sucessfully updated
20090108 05:37:01< phixxor> but I don't know where it can be found for download
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20090108 05:39:08< Turuk> wesnoth.org/files/addons/1.0/unpacked
20090108 05:39:13< Turuk> possibly
20090108 05:39:27< Turuk> yup it's there, under gryphon Tale
20090108 05:39:34< phixxor> would that be the original and the updated one as well? I'll try, thanks
20090108 05:40:01< Turuk> it might not be the updated one
20090108 05:43:47< phixxor> I think the best thing might be to pm one of the people involved in the forum
20090108 05:43:57< phixxor> one WizardMagus, looks like
20090108 05:45:26< Turuk> eh..
20090108 05:45:29< phixxor> wait, Turuk you're in this thread too
20090108 05:45:34< Turuk> ;)
20090108 05:45:48< Turuk> I was the one who tested Gryphon's Tale
20090108 05:45:59< phixxor> cool -- how did it go?
20090108 05:46:16< Turuk> eh it's not too bad, there's a lot of corrections that need to be made
20090108 05:46:30< Turuk> Zoltic supposedly made an updated version, but he was gone from the forum within a month
20090108 05:46:38< Turuk> WizardMagus has not been around for a year
20090108 05:46:50< Turuk> (more actually)
20090108 05:46:59< Turuk> same with Tashi
20090108 05:47:17< phixxor> ah, so the current state is it's sitting near complete somewhere
20090108 05:47:48< Turuk> sort of, it would have to be updated to run on 1.4 or 1.5
20090108 05:47:58< Turuk> if I remember, there are still errors with unit attacks being short/long
20090108 05:47:58< phixxor> ok
20090108 05:48:06< Turuk> which is easy to fix
20090108 05:48:15< Turuk> you'd have to find the orcish shaman unit to put into the file
20090108 05:48:36< phixxor> same shaman as in sone of black eye?
20090108 05:49:10< Turuk> I believe so
20090108 05:51:03< phixxor> does it have to be changed a lot to get updated to 1.5?
20090108 05:51:25< phixxor> if it's something anyone could do maybe I could take a crack at it
20090108 05:51:33< phixxor> unless the learning curve is too steep
20090108 05:52:00< Turuk> WML in general is not too terribly hard to learn
20090108 05:52:06< Turuk> if you take the patience to read the wiki
20090108 05:52:16< Turuk> and use the WML in existing campaigns as a reference
20090108 05:52:31< Turuk> If I recall, there was nothing too fancy done in that campaign
20090108 05:52:42< Turuk> so it might not be too hard to update (compared to other works)
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20090108 05:53:44< phixxor> alright -- what software do I need to work on it?
20090108 05:54:08< Turuk> you can use any text editor, some people have preferences
20090108 05:54:15< Turuk> personally, I just use TextEdit on my mac
20090108 05:54:30< Turuk> but you will need the editor to view the .cfg files
20090108 05:55:45< phixxor> ok, so a text editor to edit the file, and the wesnoth editor to view the .cfg
20090108 06:00:51< Turuk> ah, well I meant any text editor will do, but having that editor is important to see the .cfg files
20090108 06:01:00< Turuk> the wesnoth editor is only needed if you have to update/change the maps
20090108 06:04:39< phixxor> alright
20090108 06:04:54< phixxor> I remember this campaign involved creatures that could climb on cave walls
20090108 06:05:07< phixxor> I wouldn't have to change the maps to keep that feature, would I?
20090108 06:05:07< Turuk> yes, though I forget what they were called
20090108 06:05:16< Turuk> zolpha I think
20090108 06:05:22< phixxor> yeah that sounds right
20090108 06:10:40< phixxor> so do you know where the most up to date version of this campaign is?
20090108 06:11:08< Turuk> probably the one found on the link I sent earlier
20090108 06:11:34< phixxor> alright -- I thought since it was in the 1.0 directory it would be the original version
20090108 06:13:23< Turuk> it most likely is the latest version that was on put on the add-on server
20090108 06:13:45< Turuk> any updates made since then by users on the forum... well you can PM that guy who posted in the abandoned campaign thread who claimed he updated it
20090108 06:13:53< Turuk> but I doubt you will get a response
20090108 06:15:37< phixxor> alright i'll give it a shot
20090108 06:20:26< phixxor> do you still have his email address?
20090108 06:20:42< Turuk> for....?
20090108 06:20:44< Turuk> which one?
20090108 06:21:19< phixxor> Whomever has the files -- I think WizardMagus is the one who says that Gryphon's Tale is finished
20090108 06:21:31< phixxor> but maybe someone else has them
20090108 06:22:38< Turuk> I would start a new thread. Outline that you are taking over developing the campaign, and ask if anyone would happen to have the newer files.
20090108 06:22:52< Turuk> It would certainly work better than trying to find and dig up the old thread
20090108 06:22:57< phixxor> heh, already found it
20090108 06:23:03< phixxor> but
20090108 06:23:06< phixxor> I can start a new one
20090108 06:23:31< Turuk> I would say go for it as your necromancy may have accidentally disappeared
20090108 06:23:50< Turuk> 8) 
20090108 06:23:50< phixxor> is that a forum stat?
20090108 06:24:05< Turuk> is what a forum stat?
20090108 06:24:19< phixxor> heh, necromancy]
20090108 06:24:29< Turuk> haha well, we like old threads to say dead
20090108 06:24:33< phixxor> or just the fact that I am trying to restore life...
20090108 06:24:36< phixxor> lol
20090108 06:24:37< Turuk> unless there is a realllllly good reason to bring them back
20090108 06:24:38< phixxor> ok
20090108 06:24:46< phixxor> I didn't know that, will do
20090108 06:24:54< Turuk> and we refer to those who do so (unwittingly or intentionally)
20090108 06:24:58< Turuk> as necromancers
20090108 06:25:15< Turuk> so you may often find that if you do so, if judged unworthy, your post may get deleted/moved
20090108 06:26:00< phixxor> hehe, an apt name, but wouldn't it make sense to continue the old one, which has old info and interested people instead of starting from scratch?
20090108 06:26:52< Turuk> some times yes
20090108 06:27:04< Turuk> but I can tell you that most of the people that were active in that thread are no longer around
20090108 06:27:21< Turuk> and it is so old that it is beyond the knowledge of most of the current active forum members
20090108 06:33:58< phixxor> wow that necromancy _was_ deleted quickly
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20090108 06:34:12< Turuk> hmm really? I wonder who could have known
20090108 06:34:14< Turuk> ....
20090108 06:34:26< phixxor> lol
20090108 06:34:41< Turuk> nothing personal ;)
20090108 06:34:53< Turuk> and I made sure to give you advice on how to post it up yourself/directed you to the right place
20090108 06:35:14< phixxor> hehe yup, no offence taken
20090108 06:35:25< Turuk> this way too, when you start to make progress on improving the campaign or hit a snag and need to ask a question
20090108 06:35:31< Turuk> you can just put it in the thread you have made
20090108 06:35:48< Turuk> instead of having to deal with it in that old thread or at some point having to make a whole new one
20090108 06:36:02< phixxor> wise words
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20090108 06:37:55< phixxor> alright I'm starting a new thread
20090108 06:38:57< phixxor> but what purpose does that other abandoned campaigns thread serve?
20090108 06:39:48< Turuk> at the time, it helped to deal with saving the abandoned campaigns from the add-on server that was for 1.0
20090108 06:40:00< Turuk> or any other content that had fallen by the wayside
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20090108 06:46:43< Turuk> alright, bed for me, good luck with that campaign
20090108 06:46:50< phixxor> thanks, good night
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20090108 11:00:36< henkka> anyone for a 6p manzivan traps game? ( with 1.4 )
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20090108 13:03:51< Unnheulu> is SilverTree RPG dead?
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