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20090116 03:14:47< Glorfindel_> Looking for someone to play on 1.5.7, server has 2 afk
20090116 03:14:57< Glorfindel_> up, now 1 afk
20090116 03:17:56< Glorfindel_> forget it, I'll go play go
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20090116 09:58:13< Ivanovic> moin
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20090116 15:15:37< Elven_> hello everyone
20090116 15:16:00< Elven_> just one guestion... very simple... is this okay? message = _ "Yes, I like to recruit" + _ "elvish archer for 17 gold."
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20090116 15:19:08< Rrenys> The grammar is certainly wrong, unless its some really weird context
20090116 15:20:36< Elven_> okay, so how it must be?
20090116 15:20:58< Elven_> not a native english speaker
20090116 15:21:41< Rrenys> I *would* like to recruit *an* elvish archer
20090116 15:21:47< Rrenys> not a native speaker either
20090116 15:22:07< Elven_> thanks, i am going to repair it
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20090116 15:23:17< Unnheulu|Laptop> elias!
20090116 15:23:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> elias: why didn't you do miniLD?
20090116 15:24:27< elias> didn't know there was one..
20090116 15:24:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> one every month since last year
20090116 15:24:56< Unnheulu|Laptop> where have yopu been living? :OP
20090116 15:24:57< Unnheulu|Laptop> ;P
20090116 15:25:00< Unnheulu|Laptop> :p
20090116 15:25:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> :p
20090116 15:25:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P
20090116 15:25:11< Unnheulu|Laptop> lol
20090116 15:26:03< elias> well, i did read it on the website and get the [gamecompo] mail..
20090116 15:26:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> there is another one in a months time
20090116 15:26:23< elias> but in all (mini)LDs i just took part when i saw them starting in #ludumdare :P
20090116 15:26:31< elias> and since i wasn't in the channel lately..
20090116 15:26:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> which you are not on :P
20090116 15:26:52< elias> it's too distracting :)
20090116 15:27:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> which is why im on ;)
20090116 15:27:12< Unnheulu|Laptop> Home from school for a bit
20090116 15:27:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> and ive been given work to do
20090116 15:27:36< elias> hehe
20090116 15:27:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> no
20090116 15:27:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> because i cant hear :(
20090116 15:28:13< elias> why?
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20090116 15:29:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> had an infection in my ear = lots of pressure = gromits couldn't cope = pressure made a hole in ear drum = me not beiong able to hear and loads of stuff coming out of my ear ;)
20090116 15:30:20< elias> sounds bad :/
20090116 15:30:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> nah
20090116 15:30:33< elias> hope it will be good again soon
20090116 15:30:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> ive been given anti biotics and my hearing is getting better
20090116 15:31:19< Unnheulu|Laptop> how are you?
20090116 15:31:24< zookeeper> i've always figured that if i'd have to lose one sense entirely, it'd probably be hearing. or smelling.
20090116 15:31:51< Turuk> I could give up hearing, smelling, taste, touch even
20090116 15:31:56< Turuk> But leave me my eyesight.
20090116 15:32:00< elias> no more music, nah. i'd rather give up smelling
20090116 15:32:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> id give up smell
20090116 15:32:28< Turuk> Not exactly, you'd still have heavy metal... thump thump thump thump.
20090116 15:32:40< zookeeper> hmh, yeah, i guess i'd highly prefer losing smelling over hearing. and taste, too.
20090116 15:34:54< zookeeper> sight would be the very last one to go, i'm quite sure.
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20090116 15:35:14< Turuk> Yeah, I have to agree
20090116 15:35:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> yeah
20090116 15:36:01< VurtualRuler98> Without taste, I couldn't fully enjoy mountian dew, and that's unbearable :(
20090116 15:36:52< Elven_> one strange question... but... how can i remove "de-serialize" an empty unit? i removed all changes (i hope that all) but it is still not working :(
20090116 15:37:02< Elven_> sure i am going to figure it out :)
20090116 15:37:25< Elven_> http://pastebin.com/d28f0fe8a
20090116 15:39:36< zookeeper> at least your TELEPORT_UNITs try to teleport units which don't exist.
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20090116 15:42:34< Elven_> side 1 do not exist? or what?
20090116 15:43:47< Elven_> well i have to change side 1 to the person. i think that understand it now. thanks
20090116 15:44:43< Elven_> okay i like to teleport only Hero and mercenary
20090116 15:44:54< Elven_> so is this okay? description=Hero, mercenary
20090116 15:45:35< zookeeper> no.
20090116 15:50:46< Elven_> or i have to use something like this? http://pastebin.com/d2e28890a
20090116 15:51:43< zookeeper> depends.
20090116 15:53:54< Elven_> depends on what? are that lines okay?
20090116 15:54:17< zookeeper> depends on whether you'd think the right way would be something like that or not.
20090116 15:54:29< zookeeper> just use a single [filter] block.
20090116 15:55:49< Elven_> how can i that take 2 different units into single filter?
20090116 15:56:15< Elven_>         [filter]	description=Hero        description=Mercenary       x=9        y=76        [/filter]  ?
20090116 15:56:43< zookeeper> don't ask me, figure it out yourself.
20090116 15:57:36< Elven_> ok
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20090116 16:05:25< Elven_> damn... still the same error. i removed all recruitment and all teleports from the cfg and still the same :(
20090116 16:06:05< Elven_> http://pastebin.com/d32bc920d
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20090116 16:08:05< zookeeper> maybe side 1 needs to have a leader.
20090116 16:09:29< Elven_> side 1 have a leader, a hero what will be choosen via <option>
20090116 16:10:57< zookeeper> you've never used a computer before have you? -.-
20090116 16:11:26< Elven_> teaching work with computers at school :)
20090116 16:11:54< Elven_> but it works
20090116 16:12:07< Elven_> and in the SoF campaign it is working too
20090116 16:13:28< Elven_> healer and general was side 1 before what it works for the last time
20090116 16:13:41< Elven_> but can rectuit was set to hero
20090116 16:13:43< zookeeper> i'm sure you know better.
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20090116 18:46:03< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090116 21:09:53< Hawk87> Hi
20090116 21:10:34< Shadow_Master_> no colors please.
20090116 21:11:19< Hawk87> well isn't that a friendly welcome. as it happens my IRC client uses font formatting as standard. and who are you?
20090116 21:12:31< Shadow_Master_> :-/
20090116 21:13:02< Shadow_Master_> I see red text, that's all, and doesn't look good in a black background
20090116 21:13:26< Rrenys> Why, red on black background is a very good combo
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20090116 21:14:04< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hawk87: please dont use colours
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20090116 21:14:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> get a better client
20090116 21:14:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> Shadow_Master_: what client do you use?
20090116 21:14:54< Shadow_Master_> irssi
20090116 21:15:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> oh
20090116 21:15:21< Unnheulu|Laptop> that didn't work for me
20090116 21:15:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> bbiab
20090116 21:15:27< Shadow_Master_> Unnheulu|Laptop: whaT?
20090116 21:15:41< Shadow_Master_> it will work as long as you install it the proper way...
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20090116 21:20:48< Hawk87> so I need to change my client... because it can format text?
20090116 21:21:09< Rrenys> "can"
20090116 21:21:25< Rrenys> would imply that you can use normal text as well
20090116 21:22:35< Hawk87> I can look through options and disable text formatting for IRC. I still don't see why people have such a big problem with it
20090116 21:24:38< Tomsik> It attracts too much attention
20090116 21:24:54< Shadow_Master_> very much like in the forums..
20090116 21:25:27< Turuk> It looks odd as well.
20090116 21:26:01 * Dragonking would use different words to describe it, but generally agrees
20090116 21:26:23< Hawk87> is it still showing?
20090116 21:26:28< Shadow_Master_> nope
20090116 21:27:01< Hawk87> and god forbid anyone should attract attention to themselves :P
20090116 21:27:43< Turuk> That's the policy. ;)
20090116 21:28:21< Hawk87> did I walk into a library without realising? lol
20090116 21:29:06< Shadow_Master_> no, we're just a conservative bunch.
20090116 21:30:53< Turuk> I would argue with that.  We just standardize much of what we do because it allows less opportunity for people to cause problems.
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20090116 21:32:44< Hawk87> do you get many new people coming here?
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20090116 21:33:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> Shadow_Master_: be back in a bit
20090116 21:33:31< Shadow_Master_> whenever the site is down, eys.
20090116 21:33:34< Shadow_Master_> Unnheulu|Laptop: what?
20090116 21:33:48< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hawk87: as it happens, shadow master helped build wesnoth, so thats who he is ;)
20090116 21:34:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> Shadow_Master_: you asked what BBIAB meant
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20090116 21:34:18< Unnheulu|Laptop> or at least said what after i said that
20090116 21:34:40< Shadow_Master_> I didn't help build it. It was already built when I came here...
20090116 21:35:03< Unnheulu|Laptop> well you helped develop it
20090116 21:35:05< Unnheulu|Laptop> same thing
20090116 21:35:05< Shadow_Master_> Unnheulu|Laptop: I waask asking about "that didn't work for me"
20090116 21:35:06< Hawk87> by the nature of the project, many people helped develop it
20090116 21:35:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> ;)
20090116 21:35:13< Shadow_Master_> typos  a plenty.
20090116 21:35:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> heh
20090116 21:35:27< Hawk87> and more are joining
20090116 21:35:33< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hawk87: yay! No colours :D
20090116 21:35:37< Shadow_Master_> Unnheulu|Laptop: or did you mean that you didn't like the almighty irssi?
20090116 21:36:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> Shadow_Master_: i didn't know about booting things from a command line when i tried it :S
20090116 21:36:39< Unnheulu|Laptop> and it wasn't in the menu
20090116 21:36:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> so i assumed it didn't work
20090116 21:36:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> :P
20090116 21:36:54< Shadow_Master_> Unnheulu|Laptop: hahaha.
20090116 21:38:58< Hawk87> my first visit to this channel, all I said was 'Hi' and I get jumped on. fortunately I am open-minded about people and won't hold this against anyone, but it isn't going to encourage much interest in the community if you attack people for minor misdemeanors before you even greet them
20090116 21:39:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> Hawk87: doesn't happen often ;)
20090116 21:39:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> Usually its more of someone comes online and asks
20090116 21:39:43< Shadow_Master_> hey, it only happens once every 6 years.
20090116 21:39:43< Shadow_Master_> ;)
20090116 21:39:45< Unnheulu|Laptop> does anyone play wesnoth under gentoo?
20090116 21:39:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> then someone says ask your question
20090116 21:39:57< Shadow_Master_> yes.
20090116 21:40:03< Unnheulu|Laptop> anyways, hello Hawk87
20090116 21:40:28< Hawk87> hello Unnheulu, nice to meet you
20090116 21:40:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> i apolagize for any bad thoughts you may have got from your visit
20090116 21:40:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> or w/e
20090116 21:40:34< Unnheulu|Laptop> ;)
20090116 21:40:54< Hawk87> there see, now nobody walks away unhappy
20090116 21:40:56< Hawk87> :P
20090116 21:41:24< Unnheulu|Laptop> :)
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20090116 21:41:38 * Shadow_Master_ is walking away unhappy because of connection problems
20090116 21:41:49< Shadow_Master_> so, hi Hawk87, welcome to #wesnoth
20090116 21:41:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> anyways, your lucky noy wasn't online, he would be much more blunt and you would walk away unhappy ;P
20090116 21:42:34< Rrenys> I havent seen noy be blunt on #wesnoth channel, ever
20090116 21:42:43< Unnheulu|Laptop> well
20090116 21:42:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> if this were the server or the forum
20090116 21:42:52< Hawk87> if anyone had been rude, you would be forced to kick me for giving them a piece my mind :P
20090116 21:43:02< Unnheulu|Laptop> Rrenys: ive never seen him talk on irc
20090116 21:43:20< Turuk> Then you just are not on the right channels. ;)
20090116 21:43:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> undoubtably he talks on -mp and -dev
20090116 21:43:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> *inevitably
20090116 21:45:11< Hawk87> so... how is everyone this evening, or whatever timezone you happen to be residing in?
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20090116 21:45:35< ieuan> testing irssi
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20090116 21:45:53< unnheulu> seems to work
20090116 21:46:25< Shadow_Master_> why wouldn't it? that is, unless your package manager is broken...
20090116 21:46:31< unnheulu> im not sure if ill stick with it though
20090116 21:47:00< Shadow_Master_> I've tried ksirc, konversation, xchat, kvirc... and irssi.
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20090116 21:47:02< unnheulu> i honestly do not know why it wont work
20090116 21:47:10< Shadow_Master_> I stuck with the last (obviously).
20090116 21:47:16< unnheulu> why not xchat?
20090116 21:47:53< Shadow_Master_> for the same problem of the rest: I must have a graphical server running
20090116 21:48:22< Unnheulu|Laptop> and dont you?
20090116 21:48:36< Shadow_Master_> not always.
20090116 21:48:55< Unnheulu|Laptop> so you use lynx?
20090116 21:48:57< Soliton> most people using irssi run it on a remote server in screen.
20090116 21:48:59< Shadow_Master_> and, having it running on screen protects my IRCing from crashes
20090116 21:49:07< Shadow_Master_> that too.
20090116 21:51:55< unnheulu> i think ill stick with this for a bit
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20090116 21:52:02< unnheulu> i can use it whilst coding
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20090116 21:55:14< unnheulu> anyone here?
20090116 21:55:28< Hawk87> I am
20090116 21:55:34< unnheulu> good
20090116 21:55:42< unnheulu> im not alone
20090116 21:55:50< Hawk87> it seems at least 90% of the channel is afk. lol
20090116 21:55:58< unnheulu> yeah
20090116 21:56:21< Hawk87> so, are you involved in game development or scenario development as well?
20090116 21:56:28< unnheulu> no
20090116 21:56:35< unnheulu> i made my own campaign once
20090116 21:56:42< unnheulu> which im working on, but
20090116 21:58:30< unnheulu> shadow_master: how to i choose between two channels in irssi
20090116 21:58:34< Turuk> Sometimes we are not afk, just nothing to say.
20090116 21:58:43< unnheulu> is it a tabbed display or something?
20090116 21:58:50< Hawk87> Turuk: fair enough
20090116 21:58:59< Shadow_Master> unnheulu: Read the documentation.
20090116 21:59:04< Shadow_Master> yes it is a tabbed display:
20090116 21:59:06< Turuk> I can add meaningless drivel if you like ;)
20090116 21:59:08< Shadow_Master> alt-1, alt-2 ...
20090116 21:59:13< unnheulu> ok
20090116 21:59:27< unnheulu> thanks
20090116 21:59:38< Hawk87> Turuk: please do, it's better than an eerie quiet :P
20090116 21:59:52< Turuk> Who lives in a pineapple under the sea.....
20090116 22:00:07< Turuk> Oh I wish I was an Oscar Meyer weiner
20090116 22:00:23< Turuk> Do you believe in love after love after love after love.....
20090116 22:00:25< unnheulu> heheh
20090116 22:00:30< Hawk87> yay! a good ole' sing song :D
20090116 22:00:54< Hawk87> although its a bit dull with just text
20090116 22:03:03< Turuk> See, it will still remain quiet.
20090116 22:04:13< Hawk87> it appears so :(
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20090116 22:09:07< Hawk87> I'm henry the 8th I am I am, I'm henry the 8th I am...
20090116 22:14:43< Hawk87> you're right Turuk, it doesn't help :P
20090116 22:15:12< unnheulu> never doesw
20090116 22:15:13< unnheulu> does
20090116 22:16:21< lizard_r> Hawk87, join all the hlep channels, there is always takl ;-)
20090116 22:16:49< lizard_r> start wit #suse, #ubuntu and #python
20090116 22:17:13< Hawk87> before i join, is it like 80 people asking for help and 2 people trying to answer the same questions over and over?
20090116 22:17:27< lizard_r> I think so
20090116 22:17:38< lizard_r> but isn't that better than silence?
20090116 22:18:04< Hawk87> perhaps, i might help a few people with python coding, but that's not really why i'm here
20090116 22:18:11< lizard_r> maybe get a cannel list any join any single one ;-)
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20090116 22:18:39< Turuk> Pick one at random and see what happens
20090116 22:18:50< lizard_r> probably nothing
20090116 22:20:13< Hawk87> what happened to Shadow_Master? It sounded like the Grue got him
20090116 22:21:01< lizard_r> at least his quit message wasn't all in caps, that is more important than his live
20090116 22:21:24< Hawk87> LOL
20090116 22:21:47< Hawk87> dignity in death. especially where the Grue is involved
20090116 22:23:30< Hawk87> so... the multiplayer campaign is a relatively recent development. I know my early attempts at it failed due to sync problems. does anyone know where I can find some good multiplayer campaigns?
20090116 22:24:28< lizard_r> I think Return from Captivity is a MP campaign, but I don't know how good it is
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