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20090210 00:00:17< loonycyborg> I also had to add /windows/E/Python25/Scripts to PATH to make scons work.
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20090210 00:00:37 * loonycyborg thinks that windows installer for scons sucks.
20090210 00:01:14< Sapient>  windows/E ?
20090210 00:01:26< Sapient> is that a wine path?
20090210 00:01:58< loonycyborg> Ah. This is the path when under linux :)
20090210 00:02:28< loonycyborg> Substitute /windows/E with K:
20090210 00:04:33< Sapient> kk
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20090210 00:06:09< Sapient> I got tired of Code::Blocks hogging all my memory and CPU
20090210 00:06:22< Sapient> so I'm going to vim and scons
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20090210 00:15:38< loonycyborg> Sapient: Do you have dependencies installed in mingw's internal dirs like all other windows users seem to have?
20090210 00:16:39< Sapient> no
20090210 00:17:01< Sapient> remember I was using VC++6 before
20090210 00:17:23< Sapient> so I have a lot of include paths
20090210 00:18:02< Sapient> env = Environment(CPPPATH='inc')
20090210 00:18:14< Sapient> this syntax seems to only allow one directory
20090210 00:18:32< loonycyborg> It also takes lists
20090210 00:18:45< loonycyborg> ['inc1','inc2']
20090210 00:19:05< loonycyborg> And lists of lists even :)
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20090210 00:20:20< Sapient> do I need ldconfig, pkg-config, gtk-config, etc ?
20090210 00:21:23< loonycyborg> You'll just need to pass path to GTK SDK with gtkdir=E:\GTK or so.
20090210 00:22:45< loonycyborg> There's functionality that handles setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH etc based on gtkdir.
20090210 00:23:01< Sapient> umm... why do I need GTK ?
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20090210 00:24:02< loonycyborg> Because getting pango is most conventient with gtk SDK :)
20090210 00:24:24< Sapient> I already have pango libs/dll built
20090210 00:24:31< Sapient> or precompiled
20090210 00:24:39< Sapient> can't I just link those in?
20090210 00:25:47< loonycyborg> pango check uses pkg-config, so you'll definitely need it.
20090210 00:25:58< Sapient> crud
20090210 00:26:17< Sapient> can't I just remove that check?
20090210 00:26:44< loonycyborg> You can only remove *all* checks :)
20090210 00:27:14< Sapient> so much for highly customizable, eh ? :p
20090210 00:27:17< loonycyborg> But you'll have to figure out all config flags yourself.
20090210 00:28:02< Sapient> explain?
20090210 00:28:09< loonycyborg> Of course you can do anything you want in scons/pango.py :)
20090210 00:28:38< Sapient> such tinkering is not needed by Code::Blocks
20090210 00:28:49< Sapient> so I don't see why it needs it
20090210 00:30:03< loonycyborg> Yes, it is needed. You set all include and library path by hand in Code::Blocks don't you?
20090210 00:30:32< Sapient> yes
20090210 00:31:44< loonycyborg> Basically you have three options:
20090210 00:32:11< Sapient> I have no idea how to setup pkg-config, gtk-config, and gtkdir so that could take some research
20090210 00:32:13< loonycyborg> 1/edit scons/pango.py to set whatever flags you need instead of using pkg-config.
20090210 00:32:54< loonycyborg> 2/Use scons prereqs=false extra_flags_config="whatever flags you need"
20090210 00:33:12< loonycyborg> 3/ install GTK sdk and use gtkdir.
20090210 00:35:21< Sapient> 3 is the worst option for me
20090210 00:35:46< loonycyborg> Why? You're low on disk space?
20090210 00:36:17< Sapient> yes. and installing dependencies usually means installing more dependencies to get those dependencies working
20090210 00:37:18< loonycyborg> GTK SDK doesn't have other dependencies IIRC
20090210 00:37:36< Sapient> it appears to require cygwin
20090210 00:37:45< Sapient> I'm reading this page: http://www.gtk.org/download-windows.html
20090210 00:38:16< Sapient> and "GLib 2.x"
20090210 00:38:27< loonycyborg> These packages are *not* for developing or running programs that use the Cygwin Unix emulation environment
20090210 00:38:41< loonycyborg> citing the link.
20090210 00:39:29< loonycyborg> And glib is definitely included.
20090210 00:39:32< Sapient> ok, so at least point me to the download please
20090210 00:39:44< Sapient> pkg-config	0.23-2	 Tool binaries ?
20090210 00:40:02< loonycyborg> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/gtk+/2.14/gtk+-bundle_2.14.7-20090119_win32.zip
20090210 00:40:41< Sapient> thanks
20090210 00:41:36< Sapient> I'm adding that to the list
20090210 00:42:07< Sapient> I'll post this List in compilation forum when/if I get it working
20090210 00:44:13< YogiHH> night everyone
20090210 00:44:28< Sapient> gn, Yogi
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20090210 00:50:21< Sapient> loonycyborg: so... now I have to setup gtk config and pkg config so they point to the right directories?
20090210 00:51:14< loonycyborg> passing gtkdir=path_to_gtk_sdk should be enough.
20090210 00:51:21< loonycyborg> To scons that is.
20090210 00:51:49< Sapient> but how will  gtk config and pkg config  know which libs / dlls I want to use?
20090210 00:52:42< loonycyborg> By examining the path from which they're run and reading .pc files.
20090210 00:53:05< loonycyborg> Actually there's only pkg-config
20090210 00:53:14< Sapient> huh? I don't have any .pc files in that dir
20090210 00:53:41< Sapient> and I don't want to use the dlls in that dir
20090210 00:53:53< loonycyborg> I have them in E:/Gtk/lib/pkgconfig
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20090210 00:54:16< loonycyborg> dlls are in bin
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20090210 00:54:39< Sapient> right, I don't want to use the dlls in install path's bin
20090210 00:56:17< loonycyborg> Which dlls do you want to use?
20090210 00:56:34< Sapient> the ones in my wesnoth path
20090210 00:57:02< Sapient> C:\projects\wesnoth\
20090210 00:57:47< loonycyborg> Actually, dlls are used at runtime :)
20090210 00:58:04< Sapient> ok, so I can just delete them hopefully
20090210 00:58:26< Sapient> this makes me wonder what the point of needed it in the first place is, though
20090210 00:58:49< loonycyborg> If they're not in path they're irrelevant :)
20090210 00:59:19< Sapient> what are irrelevant?
20090210 00:59:33< loonycyborg> dlls in gtkdir/bin
20090210 00:59:42< Sapient> dang I am uninstalling this thing and hacking pango.py
20090210 00:59:49< Sapient> this util sucks, no offense
20090210 01:00:34< Sapient> 76.9 MB just so it can find out if I have pango or cairo latest versions
20090210 01:01:11< loonycyborg> The point here is to pass gtkdir to scons so it could find them automatically with pkg-config.
20090210 01:01:31< Sapient> I do not understand that sentence at all
20090210 01:02:00< Sapient> what is "gtkdir" and what does scons need to "find"?
20090210 01:02:32< Sapient> don't worry. I'll figure it out
20090210 01:02:36< loonycyborg> I run "scons gtkdir=E:/GTK" and pango is found and right flags are passed.
20090210 01:04:36< Sapient> and I will not be making the List I guess
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20090210 01:08:45 * loonycyborg is totally confused by Sapient
20090210 01:09:11< Sapient> I won't be writing a guide for this
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20090210 01:09:27< Sapient> since I don't plan to bother with gtkdir
20090210 01:09:59< loonycyborg> What exactly "bother" consists in?
20090210 01:10:48< Sapient> I wasted enough time trying to configure it, and it takes up too much space
20090210 01:10:53< loonycyborg> And where did you get your other pango libs/includes?
20090210 01:11:49< loonycyborg> Sapient: Trying? Why did you try to do? Did you run scons already?
20090210 01:12:12< Sapient> no, I'm still trying to figure out where to put my include paths
20090210 01:12:34< loonycyborg> I just use trial and error in such cases :)
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20090210 01:13:02< Sapient> the FAQ says to add some lines of python but it doesn't say where to add those lines
20090210 01:13:19< loonycyborg> What FAQ?
20090210 01:13:33< Sapient> http://www.scons.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-638361e9cba3fec0bc32698d3cc2961c8fc05d73
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20090210 01:14:29< loonycyborg> SConstruct line 101
20090210 01:15:19< Sapient> but... shouldn't I be modifying my own local files instead of SConstruct
20090210 01:15:22< Sapient> ?
20090210 01:15:38< Sapient> it's not like I can check in my changes or anything
20090210 01:16:17< loonycyborg> In case of wesnoth's scons script you can also pass extra_flags_config="-I...
20090210 01:16:39< Sapient> ah, I see thanks
20090210 01:17:20< Sapient> and these flags will be passed directly to the compiler/linker?
20090210 01:18:19< loonycyborg> It will parse them and assign to LIBPATH or CPPPATH or LIBS depending on flag.
20090210 01:21:44< loonycyborg> I.e. it should figure out to pass -L flags during linking and -I flags during compile
20090210 01:26:53< Sapient> some of those things you told me appear missing from the SConstruct Help string
20090210 01:27:19< loonycyborg> Such as?
20090210 01:28:04< Sapient> extra_flags_config and prereqs=false
20090210 01:28:38< loonycyborg> Those should be autogenerated.
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20090210 01:28:44< Sapient> ah
20090210 01:29:19< Sapient> how do I add a suffix to the exe name ?
20090210 01:30:00 * loonycyborg fails to understand the question
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20090210 01:31:37< Sapient> "Can we fit to suffixes for exe-files? I suggest wesnoth_sc.exe and wesnoth_sc-debug.exe, same with wesnothd."
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20090210 01:32:59< Sirp> what does the 'sc' stand for?
20090210 01:33:11< Sapient> is there a param to affect the name of executable produced by scons?
20090210 01:33:28< Sapient> Sirp: dunno, I was quoting McShark
20090210 01:33:38< Sapient> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=327984#p327984
20090210 01:33:52< loonycyborg> Sapient: There is, but it only affects install.
20090210 01:34:50< loonycyborg> scons appends a suffix based on build variant to binary that is produced in wesnoth root based on build variant.
20090210 01:35:27< Sapient> ok, I can rename it easily enough in my .bat file that runs the scons
20090210 01:35:32< loonycyborg> E.g. no suffix for release, "-debug" for debug, "-profile" for profile.
20090210 01:38:21< Shadow_Master> Sapient: thanks a lot for that SIGSEGV fix (bug #something-that-ends-with-911), it revealed some WML issues that were hidden beneath that pile of code
20090210 01:38:37< Sapient> no problem compadre
20090210 01:38:38< Shadow_Master> recursively triggering an advance WML event (_not_ my code!)
20090210 01:38:56< Sapient> yeouch
20090210 01:41:00< Sapient> I always knew UtBS had some ugly code
20090210 01:41:22< Sapient> it's amazing anyone ever finished it
20090210 01:43:06< Shadow_Master> the guilty code was introduced by zookeeper actually :P
20090210 01:43:15< Sapient> lol :)
20090210 01:43:15 * Shadow_Master deserves a prize.
20090210 01:43:44 * Sapient gives Shadow_Master a baby chocobone
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20090210 01:44:49< Shadow_Master> <augh face> I expected something that I could eat. :) Never mind.
20090210 01:49:37< Shadow_Master> awesome: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=338201#p338201
20090210 01:49:42< Shadow_Master> I thought all of them were elves!
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20090210 02:06:56< Sapient> wow, I've read like 10 tutorials on g++ and the man page, and none of them shows how to pass multiple dirs with spaces to -I option
20090210 02:08:23< Shadow_Master> -Ifoo\ bar\ baz
20090210 02:08:28< Shadow_Master> I have no idea if it will work.
20090210 02:08:57< Shadow_Master> \ is for escaping the whitespace in the shell and avoid getting it interpreted as a parameter separator
20090210 02:09:24< Sapient> I doubt that will work for my environment then
20090210 02:10:04 * Shadow_Master reads now the g++ info page
20090210 02:10:59< Shadow_Master> what about -I"directory with spaces" ?
20090210 02:11:16< Sapient> and seperate directories with ';' ?
20090210 02:11:45< Shadow_Master> I have never seen a single -I for multiple directories...
20090210 02:11:56< Sapient> ok, so use multiple -I
20090210 02:12:05< Shadow_Master> yep
20090210 02:15:49< Sapient> th man page said to use iquote
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20090210 02:16:57< Shadow_Master> Sapient: uh huh, it has different behavior
20090210 02:17:10< Shadow_Master> whatever you pass to -iquote won't be used to resolve #include <foobar>
20090210 02:17:19< Shadow_Master> it will be used for #include "foobar" however.
20090210 02:17:51< Shadow_Master> note that the GNU project doesn't like to maintain manpages. 
20090210 02:18:11< Sapient> dang, why is it so hard to find an example of any of these?
20090210 02:21:08< Sapient> well, I'll stop googling and go for trial+error
20090210 02:22:16< Shadow_Master> I think I know why it is so hard: in Unix you only rarely see directories with spaces in them.
20090210 02:22:38< Sapient> the one example I did find was obviously wrong
20090210 02:22:50< Sapient> -I dir1 dir2 -next_option
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20090210 02:24:06< Shadow_Master> it should be pretty similar to the MS C compiler in that regard anyway
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20090210 02:45:16< Sapient> KeyError: 'HOME': File "C:\projects\wesnoth\wesnothd\SConstruct", line 123:
20090210 02:45:39< Sapient>  env['ENV']['HOME'] = os.environ['HOME']
20090210 02:46:07< Sapient> what is "HOME" supposed to be and does scons really need it?
20090210 02:46:41< AI0867> it's supposed to be your user's home directory
20090210 02:46:51< AI0867> but what it's there for I don't know
20090210 02:52:38< Sapient> well, it totally messed up my include paths
20090210 02:55:04< Sapient> http://rafb.net/p/6a5Eod65.html
20090210 02:56:04< Sapient> what the heck
20090210 02:56:34< Sapient> it seems to be randomly adding src\ or build\debug\ in front of my parameters
20090210 02:57:12< Sapient> or build\
20090210 03:00:13 * Sapient is very disappointed in scons :(
20090210 03:00:34< Sapient> all that work for nothing it seems
20090210 03:05:28< Sapient> maybe a bug in MergeFlags()
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20090210 03:13:12 * Shadow_Master o O (r32730)
20090210 03:13:31< Sapient> yo Shikadi
20090210 03:13:46< Sapient> I think there is a bug in scons MergeFlags
20090210 03:14:00< Sapient> this is becoming less and less of a timesaver with scons
20090210 03:14:04< Shadow_Master> I use scons but I certainly don't know how it works, or python.
20090210 03:14:14< Shadow_Master> all I know is that it works out of the box for me.
20090210 03:14:37< Shadow_Master> wesbot: log 32730
20090210 03:14:40< wesbot> noyga * r32730 : Update/fix some SVN properties
20090210 03:14:41< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=32730
20090210 03:14:57< Shadow_Master> ahhh...
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20090210 03:30:43 * Shadow_Master O o (more grues...)
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20090210 03:38:21 * Shadow_Master is now trying to count how many bugs we have inherited from SDL.
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20090210 04:00:27< Sapient> well, I was able to workaround the bug/feature by using full path information
20090210 04:00:37< Sapient> instead of relative paths
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20090210 04:09:43< [Relic]> Hello :)
20090210 04:10:08< Shadow_Master> Get him! ;D
20090210 04:11:32< Shadow_Master> uh... nice! Rumor has it that Debian lenny is right about to be declared the new stable.
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20090210 04:22:16< Shadow_Master> [advancement] [effect][/effect] ... what purpose does this serve for Kaleh's AMLAs in UtBS?
20090210 04:23:23< Sapient> applies an effect?
20090210 04:24:04< Shadow_Master> an empty effect apparently.
20090210 04:24:22< Shadow_Master> off to bed, night.
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20090210 04:25:46< [Relic]> :)
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20090210 04:58:46< CIA-70> sapient * r32732 /trunk/SConstruct: check for existence of %HOME% environment variable to prevent invalid key error on some platforms
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20090210 05:58:56< Sapient> cya later, have fun.
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20090210 08:24:38< Soliton> ilor: /query works but :query doesn't. any idea?
20090210 08:24:56< ilor> Soliton: where?
20090210 08:25:18< Soliton> ilor: in-game.
20090210 08:25:55< Soliton> chat handler vs console handler
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20090210 09:09:56< ilor> Soliton: got it
20090210 09:11:29< CIA-70> ilor * r32733 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: fix :query not working, thanks to Soliton for spotting it
20090210 09:13:00< Soliton> cool, thanks.
20090210 09:16:54< CIA-70> soliton * r32734 /trunk/src/multiplayer_connect.cpp: don't kick players when re-assigning their last side
20090210 09:19:47< CIA-70> ilor * r32735 /trunk/ (data/themes/editor2.cfg src/editor2/editor_layout.cpp): slight editor2 display tweaks
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20090210 09:27:41< CIA-70> ilor * r32736 /trunk/ (data/scenario-test.cfg src/game_events.cpp): 
20090210 09:27:41< CIA-70> [replace_map] now requires a expand=yes or shrink=yes if the new map is larger
20090210 09:27:41< CIA-70> or smaller (otherwise it'll drop a wml error). Also, off-map units are put in
20090210 09:27:41< CIA-70> the recall list, and if there isn't one, an error message is shown.
20090210 09:29:11< ilor> hm, I forgot to add some minor changelog entries for 1.5.9, backlog them or add them to the  1.5.9+svn section?
20090210 09:30:21< CIA-70> ilor * r32737 /trunk/changelog: changelog update
20090210 09:32:10< CIA-70> ilor * r32738 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: vc9 projectfile update
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20090210 10:06:06< nital> hello
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20090210 10:28:53< ilor> Shadow_Master: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/ReplaceMapWML
20090210 10:29:49< nital> can anyone who has svn version confirm bug that I found? I want someone else to reproduce that before I post it to bugtracker
20090210 10:30:23< nital> right after dialog in the first scenarios of Orcish Incursion and South Guard, Wesnoth crashes with assertion fail
20090210 10:31:43< nital> here's the error: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m6491424f
20090210 10:33:04< nital> (by dialog I mean the introducing talk between characters, not the intro)
20090210 10:34:32< loonycyborg> Confirmed.
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20090210 10:44:13< nital> it seems that I can't post bug report to bugtracker, since "my IP is blacklisted"
20090210 10:44:51< nital> I have dynamic IP, however, how can I get through this?
20090210 10:45:16< loonycyborg> Some proxy server.
20090210 10:47:49< loonycyborg> Besides, possibly reporting on this channel may be enough since some core developers hang out there :P
20090210 10:50:26< nital> well, I need to solve this problem anyway, I want to be able to file a bug report from time to time ;)
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20090210 14:09:39< Ivanovic> hi
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20090210 15:30:55< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32739 /trunk/data/campaigns/Liberty/scenarios/07_The_Hunters.cfg: Simplified the (expanded) WML a bit and made the platoon a bit tougher on harder difficulties.
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20090210 17:42:44 * cib0 is annoyed by C++'s dumbness.
20090210 17:43:27< cib0> or maybe it is my own dumbness
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20090210 17:45:02< cib0> i find it pretty annoying that i have to initialize a variable and make it non-const, just so the compiler wont complain, even though the actual initialization will follow right away in an if-structure
20090210 17:45:59< ilor> cib0: what are you trying to do? 
20090210 17:47:33< cib0> ilor, http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m20f32ca1
20090210 17:48:24< Soliton> use the ternary operator?
20090210 17:48:28< ilor> ouch memory leak
20090210 17:48:55< ilor> what Soliton said, only way to get a reference to either A or B depending on a condition is via ?:
20090210 17:49:12< ilor> or just use a pointer
20090210 17:49:40< cib0> memory leak? oh.. right, C++ has no GC..
20090210 17:51:04< ilor> cib0: you were also making a copy in this code which is probably not what you wanted
20090210 17:51:30< cib0> a copy of what?
20090210 17:51:46< ilor> saved_sides = state.snapshot.get_children("side");
20090210 17:52:06< ilor> this makes a copy and stores it in saved_sides
20090210 17:52:44< cib0> are you sure?
20090210 17:52:56< ilor> yep
20090210 17:53:11< cib0> hm.. ok, brb
20090210 17:56:29< cib0> so, this config::child_list& stuff doesn't make it a reference which by definition doesnt hold a copy?
20090210 17:59:08< ilor> cib0: it is a reference
20090210 17:59:22< ilor> but you cannot reassign references in c++
20090210 18:00:00< cib0> ilor: ah, i see, thanks
20090210 18:00:04< ilor> so int a, b; int &c = a; c = b; //the last statement is a normal copy
20090210 18:00:33< ilor> I'd use a pointer and then maybe alias a reference to it to make stuff easier
20090210 18:01:30< cib0> forgive me my noobiness, i learned C++ mostly by reading wesnoth source and didnt get across that stuff too often
20090210 18:01:52< ilor> it's one of the bits that's tricky to get without a book ;)
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20090210 18:02:40< cib0> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m329d6410
20090210 18:02:56< cib0> would this do?
20090210 18:02:57< ilor> cib: yes
20090210 18:03:16< ilor> your original code had slightly different conditions though
20090210 18:03:36< cib0> because of the else if? that one was just extra verbose
20090210 18:03:43< ilor> ah okay
20090210 18:04:05< ilor> anyway if the conditions get more complex I'd much rather do it by a pointer and if/else if
20090210 18:04:37< ilor> like http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m1b66d081
20090210 18:05:08< cib0> yup, got it
20090210 18:05:20< ilor> nested ?: are evil ;)
20090210 18:06:17< cib0> also, how do you alias a reference to a pointer?
20090210 18:08:06< Soliton> that's the last statement in the paste.
20090210 18:09:02< cib0> oops, sorry o.o overlooked that line
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20090210 18:09:52< cib0> anyway, thanks alot for helping me discover another mistery of C++ :p
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20090210 18:16:00< cib0> i take it, memory leaks happen whenever you create new data referenced by a pointer and dont manually destroy it when the pointer goes out of scope/is re-assigned?
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20090210 18:17:10< loonycyborg> cib0: Pretty much yes.
20090210 18:17:28 * cib0 sure has to be more careful with pointers from now on.
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20090210 18:24:15< cib0> ungh, i might have created a memory leak
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20090210 18:26:39< cib0> oh, phew, i guess not
20090210 18:27:07< cib0> *end_level_result = end_level; <- this will re-assign the memory and destroy the object that was kept in it before, right?
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20090210 18:29:15< grzywacz> huh?
20090210 18:29:31< grzywacz> hopefully
20090210 18:30:07< cib0> well, it will, or somethings wrong
20090210 18:30:26< cib0> end_level_result = &end_level; would be bad though
20090210 18:31:15< loonycyborg> cib0: If *end_level_result implements operator=() properly, everything should be fine.
20090210 18:33:40< cib0> well, if it doesnt implement it at all, is that fine, too? :p
20090210 18:34:00< cib0> i.e. it's not defined in the declaration
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20090210 18:34:36< loonycyborg> Yes. Should be fine.
20090210 18:36:40< cib0> sounds like in C++ you cant trust anything
20090210 18:38:05< loonycyborg> You can't trust anything in any language :)
20090210 18:38:32< loonycyborg> Knowing is better than trusting anyway..
20090210 18:39:17< grzywacz> True... -_-
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20090210 18:44:54< Baufo> does any know whether Mordante's widgets have generic yes/no/cancel type dialogs?
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20090210 18:46:12< Mordante> hi
20090210 18:46:34< Soliton> <Baufo> does any know whether Mordante's widgets have generic yes/no/cancel type dialogs?
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20090210 18:46:52< cib0> maybe mordante knows =)
20090210 18:47:07< Mordante> Baufo not yet, but I could add one ilor also already asked for it
20090210 18:47:09< loonycyborg> Or ilor :)
20090210 18:47:25< Mordante> cib0 I wouldn't be too sure about that ;-)
20090210 18:48:00< Baufo> that would be great
20090210 18:48:06< Mordante> or better said I need to modify the message.cfg for that
20090210 18:48:18< Mordante> when do you need it?
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20090210 18:49:35< Baufo> Mordante, I am about to write feat.. erm fix to ask the user whether he really want to autokick his registered nick
20090210 18:49:48< Baufo> but I can just use a dialog from the old library for now
20090210 18:50:44< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32740 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Made "Into the Depths" easier.
20090210 18:51:17< cib0> Mordante: you have that stuff in a .cfg? nice
20090210 18:54:44< Mordante> Baufo that would be the easiest
20090210 18:55:27< Mordante> cib0 yes that's one of the goals of the new widget library, allow the user to modify the looks of the widgets
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20090210 19:20:50 * zookeeper is looking at a weird 1.5.9 bug
20090210 19:21:56< zookeeper> oh! ahah. it was so simple.
20090210 19:23:16< CIA-70> baufo * r32741 /trunk/src/ (multiplayer.cpp server/server.cpp): fix for the login procedure: added a confirmation dialog to prevent users from accidentally kicking themselves.
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20090210 19:29:42 * Baufo just accidentally a string
20090210 19:29:51< Baufo> is that bad? :p
20090210 19:35:06< AI0867> that on whether you it to work?
20090210 19:42:34< Soliton> Baufo: that dialog doesn't come up.
20090210 19:43:11< Baufo> Soliton, you have to update the server too
20090210 19:43:13< Soliton> wait, i need to use a new server of course..
20090210 19:43:26< Soliton> anyway, that confirmation dialog says nothing about kicking.
20090210 19:44:41< Soliton> oh, i guess that is included in the error message.
20090210 19:45:13< Baufo> yeah, I thought this was enough
20090210 19:45:30< Soliton> is the new string the title of the dialog?
20090210 19:45:35< Baufo> yes
20090210 19:45:54< Baufo> it's not really necessary....
20090210 19:46:00< Soliton> ok, we can pobably find a fitting existing one then.
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20090210 19:54:49< silene> hi
20090210 19:57:04< Mordante> hi silene 
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20090210 20:16:17< CIA-70> mordante * r32742 /trunk/ (data/scenario-test.cfg src/gui/dialogs/wml_message.cpp): 
20090210 20:16:17< CIA-70> Allow the first item to be an empty image.
20090210 20:16:17< CIA-70> It's a bit kludgy but it works, needs a proper cleanup later.
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20090210 20:37:46< CIA-70> mordante * r32743 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (event_executor.hpp event_handler.cpp event_handler.hpp): 
20090210 20:37:46< CIA-70> Implement keyboard focussing functions.
20090210 20:37:46< CIA-70> Only implemented in the basic code no users yet.
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20090210 20:47:55< CIA-70> mordante * r32744 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20090210 20:47:55< CIA-70> Implement the keyboard focus for the text widget.
20090210 20:47:55< CIA-70> Now it should be clear which widget has the keyboard focus.
20090210 20:48:05< Mordante> Baufo zookeeper ^
20090210 20:48:57< Baufo> Mordante, so we can tab between text boxes?
20090210 20:49:12< Mordante> no but at least it's clear which widget has the focus
20090210 20:49:23< Baufo> ah, nice
20090210 20:49:35< zookeeper> yay
20090210 20:49:40< Mordante> tabbing won't make it before 1.6
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20090210 21:20:51< cib0> w00t
20090210 21:21:12< cib0> i try to fix MP campaigns and find a bug with MP reloading in general
20090210 21:22:52< cib0> i guess you usually dont notice, but if you play as players X and Y, save with player X and reload that save with player Y, you will end up with X and Y both controlling X's side
20090210 21:45:17< Mordante> I'm off night
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20090210 21:56:25< Baufo> night
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20090210 21:58:23< CIA-70> jhinrichs * r32745 /trunk/src/ (menu_events.cpp team.cpp team.hpp): Refactor to remove a dependency so team.cpp doesn't rely on network anymore.
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20090210 22:25:13< Shadow_Master> ilor: why a whole new page for it instead of adding it to e.g. DirectActionsWML ?
20090210 22:25:38< Shadow_Master> (where [terrain] (map modifier) is documented)
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20090210 22:34:16< ilor_> Shadow_Master: haven't given it much thought, yeah probably that would work better 
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20090210 22:36:08< Noyga> at last got some idea in my c++ todo list, it would take a while to implement , through...
20090210 22:37:58< thespaceinvader> hey kitty_ =)
20090210 22:38:11< kitty_> hi thespaceinvader 
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20090210 22:43:54< YogiHH> Soliton, you there?
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20090210 22:47:07< YogiHH> noy, do you read me?
20090210 22:47:13< noy> I do read you
20090210 22:47:15< noy> Hi
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20090210 22:47:54< YogiHH> noy, can you check if on the 1.4 mp server yogi and yogibear have the same ip adresses?
20090210 22:47:54< Soliton> YogiHH: yes.
20090210 22:48:15< noy> YogiHH: being spoofed?
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20090210 22:48:35< YogiHH> no, i left and suspect that something wasn't ended properly
20090210 22:48:52< YogiHH> if so, please kill "yogi"
20090210 22:49:10< Soliton> looks like you got a new IP.
20090210 22:49:11< noy> done
20090210 22:49:17< YogiHH> ok, thanks
20090210 22:49:46< Soliton> hmm, maybe you want to become a server moderator? :-)
20090210 22:49:59< YogiHH> wouldn't say no to that ;-)
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20090210 22:50:11< Ivanovic> i am off to bed, looking forward to a *long* night with lots of sleep (finally!)
20090210 22:50:17< Soliton> noy: do you mind?
20090210 22:50:25< Ivanovic> n8
20090210 22:50:41< noy> oh of course not... heh I thought you were complaining about something I did
20090210 22:50:50< noy> I was like "mind what?"
20090210 22:51:27< Soliton> mind your own business!
20090210 22:53:01< YogiHH> night, Ivanovic
20090210 22:53:23< Soliton> YogiHH: ok, please checkout http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/ServerAdministration and join #wesnoth-mp.
20090210 22:55:17< YogiHH> cool, thanks
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20090210 22:57:56< Shadow_Master> Sirp_: around?
20090210 22:58:29< Sirp_> Shadow_Master: for a little bit; what's up?
20090210 22:58:41< Shadow_Master> Sirp_: someone's asking about the AI's biases: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=23401 :p
20090210 22:58:55< Shadow_Master> thought you may have some fun giving them an answer.
20090210 22:59:34< Sirp_> that thread is quite old. :p
20090210 23:01:12< loonycyborg> Sirp_: Don't worry. You're unlikely to be banned for thread necromancy.
20090210 23:01:35 * Turuk eyes Sirp_
20090210 23:01:41< Turuk> Maybe, maybe not.
20090210 23:01:43< Turuk> :P
20090210 23:01:59< Sirp_> loonycyborg: I just meant that I had seen it some time ago, and hadn't bothered to reply, so I wasn't sure why I would be more likely to now. :p
20090210 23:02:25< Shadow_Master> I am interested to know anyway: is that a myth or not? 
20090210 23:02:51< Turuk> A point I raised with the OP, if no one has answered by now.... ;)
20090210 23:03:26< Sirp_> Shadow_Master: the game in general will have some level of bias toward the north and the west, because of the ordering of the location class.
20090210 23:03:42< Sirp_> and in particular, its use in map<location, unit>
20090210 23:03:53< Sirp_> one way to 'fix' this would be to use a hash_map instead of map. :)
20090210 23:04:05< Shadow_Master> but it's not a standard (yet).
20090210 23:04:23< Shadow_Master> I know the MS Visual C++ implements hash_maps too, but no idea about e.g. Solaris.
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20090210 23:06:38< Sirp_> Shadow_Master: hash_map is very widely implemented.
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20090210 23:12:15< Shadow_Master> Sirp_: ahh... that is good to know.
20090210 23:14:28< ilor_> Shadow_Master: there'a a hash map (called unordered_map) in boost
20090210 23:14:45< ilor_> and it's in the boost version we require already iirc
20090210 23:15:54< Shadow_Master> Boost TR1 wrapper... right.
20090210 23:17:44< Turuk> Ivanovic, when you wake up after your long sleep, you've got mail. :P
20090210 23:18:42< Shadow_Master> it can't be anything good, knowing your methods.
20090210 23:20:21< Turuk> :\  Oh really?
20090210 23:21:17< Shadow_Master> JK :P
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20090210 23:25:54< thespaceinvader> kitty_: ok for me to commit LordBob's Javelineer?  he calls it finished
20090210 23:26:04< thespaceinvader> i'm doing his halberdier revision anyway, so...
20090210 23:27:06< kitty_> no, i'll write a comment in a few min (the nose is too high, noses bend in between the eyes, not between the eyebrows...)
20090210 23:27:22< thespaceinvader> ok, i'll leave him for a bit them
20090210 23:27:25< thespaceinvader> *then
20090210 23:34:28< CIA-70> thespaceinvader * r32746 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/humans/ (halberdier.png transparent/halberdier.png): Revise LordBob's Halberdier portrait
20090210 23:36:15< Sapient> Sirp: so are map and hash_map completely interchangeable, w.r.t. iterator invalidation, etc?
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20090210 23:39:49< Shadow_Master> wesnoth: src/actions.cpp:2507: bool unit_can_move(const map_location&, const unit_map&, const gamemap&, const std::vector<team, std::allocator<team> >&): Assertion `u_it != units.end()' failed.
20090210 23:40:09< Shadow_Master> I am getting this now not only in UtBS, but also in IftU scenario 2 during dialogue. This didn't happen a few days ago :-/
20090210 23:40:15< Sapient> Shadow_Master: sounds like a bug
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20090210 23:40:28< Shadow_Master> Sapient: yes, want a saved game from UtBS?
20090210 23:41:05< Sapient> probably not today since I'm on call. but a bug report would be nice
20090210 23:41:10< Shadow_Master> okay
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