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20090212 00:00:06< Shadow_Master> fabi: uh, it stops working from scenario 2 onwards. 
20090212 00:00:22< Shadow_Master> and I said that it doesn' happen if you use 1.5.6 to play *with the same saved game*
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20090212 00:05:35< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32765 /trunk/src/ (astarnode.cpp astarnode.hpp astarsearch.cpp): Indent license headings.
20090212 00:06:46< CIA-70> esr * r32766 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (17 files in 12 dirs): Use suspense.ogg where appropriaye in mainline canmpaigns.
20090212 00:06:58< Shadow_Master> ESR_: pling
20090212 00:09:07< ESR_> Yo rang?
20090212 00:09:18< Shadow_Master> ESR_: revision 32537 is not complete...
20090212 00:09:44< Shadow_Master> -               ERR_CONFIG << "Defence '" << res << "' is '< 0' reset to 0 (100% defence).\n";
20090212 00:09:47< Shadow_Master> +               ERR_CONFIG << "Defence '" << res << "' is '< 0' reset to 0 (100% defense).\n";
20090212 00:09:57< Shadow_Master> notice the first string passed to operator<<().
20090212 00:11:08< ESR_> Heh.  I fixed 'em all in .cfg files and didn't think about C source error messages.  Fix it if you like.
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20090212 00:12:31< Shadow_Master> yeah, it's kind of confusing that way (is the error message a pitiful attempt at teaching English?)
20090212 00:12:34< Shadow_Master> :P
20090212 00:13:45< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32767 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: s/Defence/Defense/ in non-translatable message.
20090212 00:14:17< Shadow_Master> TBH I tend to forget that I'm supposed to speak US English and sometimes use "colour", "favourite", "dialogue" all over the place.
20090212 00:15:09< ESR_> Shadow_Master: I have the same glitch occasionally because I lived in England for a while as a child.
20090212 00:15:25< ESR_> That's also why I can do en_GB.
20090212 00:15:31 * Sirp has the same glitch between he lived in Australia for a long time as a child. :)
20090212 00:15:40< Sirp> s/between/because/
20090212 00:16:25< CIA-70> soliton * r32768 /trunk/src/ (multiplayer.cpp server/server.cpp): uniformly used 'nick' instead of 'username' and display the nick in question
20090212 00:16:30 * Sirp enjoys spelling gaol instead of jail just because it looks archaic
20090212 00:17:18 * ESR_ notes that 'goal' was already a bit precious-seeming when he lived in England 40 years ago.
20090212 00:17:27< ESR_> s/goal/gaol/
20090212 00:17:53< ESR_> Though, if one were a soccer player, goals were precious too.
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20090212 00:22:00< Sirp> ESR_: well it is mostly only used in formal legal contexts these days. With the wigs and all.
20090212 00:22:57< ESR_> They do the wigs thing in *Australia*?  Astounding!
20090212 00:23:08< Shadow_Master> :O
20090212 00:23:37< ESR_> Shadow_Master: In England, barristers still wear Georgian-era wigs in court.
20090212 00:23:59< Shadow_Master> a curse upon the people who moved UtBS back and forth btw.
20090212 00:25:07< Shadow_Master> I'm fetching more stuff with git svn fetch and now I remember that shortly after Sol made that tarball fabi and Espreon decided to have fun bouncing UtBS from branch to branch
20090212 00:25:27< ESR_> WTF?
20090212 00:25:30< Shadow_Master> (November)
20090212 00:27:24< Ivanovic> currently commiting just another pot-update
20090212 00:27:37< Ivanovic> ESR_: you might want to have a look at finishing en_GB "for real" now
20090212 00:27:39< Ivanovic> ;)
20090212 00:27:55< ESR_> Ivanovic: On mu list.
20090212 00:28:06< Shadow_Master> this is the... tenth pot-update today or what?
20090212 00:28:25< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: today?
20090212 00:28:27< ESR_> First I need to figure out wgy wmscope --unresolved is spewing all sorts of messages.
20090212 00:28:27< Ivanovic> the first
20090212 00:28:35< Ivanovic> (today is only 30mins old!)
20090212 00:29:13< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: yesterday+today
20090212 00:29:26< Ivanovic> then it is the 2nd
20090212 00:29:41< Shadow_Master> even at 1 AM I refer to the day before 12:00 AM as "today"
20090212 00:30:18< Shadow_Master> wow, fetching branches/utbs made it jump back to revision 10000 or something
20090212 00:31:07< ESR_> Sounds like that branch should be pruned.
20090212 00:31:16< Shadow_Master> ESR_: nope.
20090212 00:31:23< ESR_> ?
20090212 00:31:34< Shadow_Master> ESR_: git svn is fetching the *real* history from the repository
20090212 00:31:40< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: not possible
20090212 00:31:45< Shadow_Master> if you remove a file, git svn will still have to fetch it
20090212 00:31:49< Ivanovic> this branch is not in the 10000 era
20090212 00:32:11< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: it is fetching those for the history, as I said avove.
20090212 00:32:19< Ivanovic> that is: it was removed post 1.4 and the last change in the 1.2 tree was in 23339
20090212 00:32:41< Ivanovic> and fetching *all* the wesnoth history will take you ~3GB
20090212 00:32:48< Ivanovic> though by now more like 4
20090212 00:33:17< Shadow_Master> I already have most of the history (trunk, branches/1.0, branches/1.2, branches/1.4'ish)
20090212 00:33:53< Shadow_Master> and I still have 80 GB left :P
20090212 00:34:20< Ivanovic> anyway, time for me to head off to bed, n8
20090212 00:34:26< Shadow_Master> (though most of my home dir is filled by music, the .ccache dir and a few > 100 MB svn checkouts
20090212 00:37:49< Shadow_Master> ugh. I'll postpone this until I get to the capital and keep with trunk's own history for now.
20090212 00:38:06< Ivanovic> i am off to bed now, n
20090212 00:38:07< Ivanovic> 8
20090212 00:38:55< Shadow_Master> ilor: pling
20090212 00:39:11< ilor> Shadow_Master?
20090212 00:39:33< Shadow_Master> ilor: can you use 1-9 to set starting locations in your editor build?
20090212 00:41:17< ilor> 1-9 scrolls to the starting loc, alt+1-9 sets
20090212 00:41:55< Shadow_Master> ahhh...
20090212 00:42:09< ilor> mouseover the starting position tool btw ;)
20090212 00:42:28< Shadow_Master> ilor: but the tool's dialog message is still misleading.
20090212 00:42:39< ilor> why?
20090212 00:42:40< Shadow_Master> "You can also use the 1-9 and delete keys to set/clear starting positions."
20090212 00:42:45< Shadow_Master> it doesn't mention Alt.
20090212 00:42:57< ilor> ah, the dialog message, right
20090212 00:43:04< Shadow_Master> I don't know if that deserves a string melt
20090212 00:43:04< ilor> completely forgot about that one
20090212 00:43:58< ilor> I'd call it a misleading bug so yeah
20090212 00:44:38< ESR_> AI0867: ping?
20090212 00:44:42< Shadow_Master> there are also some awful drawing glitches in the editor hotkeys list
20090212 00:44:58< Shadow_Master> more of me once my CPU gets off the 80°C zone.
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20090212 00:46:54< CIA-70> ow
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20090212 00:48:22< Shadow_Master> ilor: in the editor hotkey settings, try selecting one of the options including long explanations
20090212 00:48:35< ilor> Shadow_Master: looks lovely :D
20090212 00:48:44< Shadow_Master> then try opening a window and dragging it around over wesnoth
20090212 00:50:17< ilor> Shadow_Master: I blame ThemeWML
20090212 00:50:22< ilor> ;)
20090212 00:50:33< Shadow_Master> http://shadowm.nfshost.com/ohnoes.jpg
20090212 00:51:32< ilor> Shadow_Master: yeah. well. I'll have to hack around and make the tooltip different from the hotkey description
20090212 00:51:58< Shadow_Master> I blame Sapient's GUI :p
20090212 00:53:01< Shadow_Master> which reminds me of the text-overdrawn-the-first-time bug when you bring up e.g. the recruit list in a game.
20090212 01:10:19< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32770 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Mention changes of r32751, r32749 in the changelogs.
20090212 01:10:22< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32769 /trunk/po/ (432 files in 9 dirs): just another pot-update (to get the "real" mp server messages in...)
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20090212 01:20:27< Shadow_Master> asdf? :(
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20090212 01:39:54< CIA-70> esr * r32771 /trunk/data/campaigns/Two_Brothers/scenarios/ (5 files): 
20090212 01:39:54< CIA-70> Use the standard music macros for Two Brothers scenarios.
20090212 01:39:54< CIA-70> This is a pure refactoring and should not cause behavioral changes.
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20090212 02:04:22< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32772 /trunk/po/wesnoth/es.po: Spanish translation update.
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20090212 02:11:42< Sapient> does anyone object if I replace Scons "Options" which are deprecated, with "Variables"?
20090212 02:22:06< Soliton> what does that change?
20090212 02:22:26< Sapient> I'm not sure but I need it to use UnknownVariables()
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20090212 02:25:51< Shadow_Master> Sapient: I have no idea what it does, but keep in mind that not all of us use latest SCons
20090212 02:26:35< Sapient> but is there anything preventing people from using a more recent Scons?
20090212 02:26:57< Shadow_Master> Debian lenny distributes SCons 1.0
20090212 02:27:19< Shadow_Master> * 1.0.0
20090212 02:27:25< Sapient> does it support Variables ?
20090212 02:27:45< Shadow_Master> I am not concerned enough to learn how SCons work for that problem.
20090212 02:27:59< Sapient> ok, since Options are deprecated, from my point of view they are going to need to upgrade Scons soon anyways
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20090212 02:28:40< Shadow_Master> okay, since Windows XP is deprecated we should stop supporting Windows XP as well. <rolls eyes>
20090212 02:29:15< Sapient> it's a lot easier to upgrade Scons ;)
20090212 02:29:18< Sapient> and free-er
20090212 02:29:49< Shadow_Master> easy if you want to break your operating system's default package versions, of course.
20090212 02:29:57< Sapient> anyways, you are running out of time for a REAL excuse
20090212 02:30:06< Shadow_Master> Sapient: ask loonycyborg.
20090212 02:30:11< Sapient> I will commit this soon if there aren't valid objections
20090212 02:30:19< Shadow_Master> that's the REAL excuse.
20090212 02:30:39< Sapient> I would ask if he were here of course ;)
20090212 02:30:42< Shadow_Master> he and ESR_ maintain the SCons recipe, not you.
20090212 02:31:02< Sapient> true. I am one of the python maintainers, though
20090212 02:31:32< Soliton> why don't you just find out if there actually is a problem first?
20090212 02:31:44< Sapient> ESR_ is here
20090212 02:31:54< Sapient> he hasn't commented yet though
20090212 02:32:11< Shadow_Master> because he's away most of the time (and doesn't read the backlog most of the time)
20090212 02:32:22< Shadow_Master> but yeah, let's see what the change does :)
20090212 02:32:38< Sapient> I'll put it this way... AddOptions is so deprecated I could barely find any documentation on it from googling
20090212 02:33:10< Sapient> so it's problematic
20090212 02:33:34< Shadow_Master> Sapient: since you are here: where there any engine changes in the unit_type/AMLA stuff between 1.5.6 and 1.5.7?
20090212 02:33:42< AI0867> ESR_: here
20090212 02:33:59< Shadow_Master> any that you can recall?
20090212 02:34:08< Sapient> Shadow_Master: I don't remember any
20090212 02:34:32< Shadow_Master> um.
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20090212 02:36:03< Shadow_Master> shikadibot: dir /tags
20090212 02:36:04< shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /tags: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/tags
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20090212 02:42:44< Shadow_Master> git log `git svn find-rev r30975`..`git svn find-rev r31828`
20090212 02:42:58< Shadow_Master> looks like I'll have _lots_ of fun reverting commit by commit.
20090212 02:44:20< Soliton> git bisect?
20090212 02:45:42< Shadow_Master> I think it will be more optimal to check diff by diff myself. I wonder if there's anything more comfortable to check a individual commit's than e.g. git diff $(git svn find-rev r31589)^..$(git svn find-rev r31589)
20090212 02:47:21< Soliton> git show
20090212 02:47:35< Soliton> or git log -p if you want a list.
20090212 02:49:45< Shadow_Master> um, nice. every day I learn something new of git
20090212 02:58:43< Shadow_Master> wesbot: bug 12632
20090212 02:58:44< wesbot> Bug #12632  Assigned to: David White <dave>  Status: In Progress  Priority: 5 - Normal
20090212 02:58:47< wesbot> Summary: Reproducible pathfinding crash
20090212 02:58:49< wesbot> Original submission: Crashed in Heir to the Throne: 06 The Siege of Elensefar,
20090212 02:58:52< wesbot>  which looks like it's in pathfinding. The error is:
20090212 02:58:55< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?12632
20090212 02:58:58< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=5034
20090212 02:59:59< Shadow_Master> uh, I was thinking on the wrong bug. :-/
20090212 03:12:57< Shadow_Master> it feels like most of the changes between 1.5.6 and 1.5.7 were WML rather than C++
20090212 03:15:25< Sapient> well, I finally got scons to do what I want here
20090212 03:15:50< Sapient> I will hold off on merging it since you and Soliton were so insistent
20090212 03:16:00< Sapient> cya later, have fun.
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20090212 03:16:04< Shadow_Master> I'm about to go nuts and examine the whole diff between 1.5.6 and 1.5.7.
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20090212 03:19:37< Soliton> seems i have a very insistent way to ask questions. :-)
20090212 03:20:53< Shadow_Master> wesbot: bug 12666
20090212 03:20:53< wesbot> Bug #12666  Assigned to: Fabian Müller <fendrin>  Status: Fixed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20090212 03:20:56< wesbot> Summary: LoW: Bounty Hunters - left_behind string starts with ", "
20090212 03:20:59< wesbot> Original submission: 
20090212 03:21:02< wesbot> are stored and a left_behind string is constructed with all the names. Because t
20090212 03:21:05< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?12666
20090212 03:21:07< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=5067
20090212 03:24:18< Shadow_Master> um, yeah (goes to a /query)
20090212 03:32:15< Shadow_Master> --- /dev/null +++ b/src/asserts.hpp
20090212 03:32:39< Shadow_Master> so many puns I could make with this way of specifying in the diff that files were created :P
20090212 03:41:00< ESR_> AI0867: Your creation of transparent/wesnoth-icon.png in data/core confuses wmlscope horribly.  It thinks there are multiple definitions foe a reference to wesnoth-icon.png.  We nweed to remove ore rename one copy.
20090212 03:42:50< Shadow_Master> ESR_: and why that doesn't happen with regular portraits?
20090212 03:43:30< ESR_> Probavbly because one version is outside caore.
20090212 03:43:54< Shadow_Master> ahhhhh, damnit
20090212 03:44:24< Shadow_Master> I have tried to make fabi or Espreon to file a damn bug report for the problems with UtBS's AMLAs and they keep failing to do so, damnit
20090212 03:45:58< Shadow_Master> ESR_: the transparent version is _in_ core
20090212 03:46:21< ESR_> Ther non-transparent version isn't.
20090212 03:46:30< Shadow_Master> ESR_: it is _in_ core too
20090212 03:46:51< Shadow_Master> /images/wesnoth-icon.png, /data/core/images/wesnoth-icon.png, /data/core/images/transparent/wesnoth-icon.png
20090212 03:47:08< ESR_> It's not under data/core.  That probably matters, though I'd have to dig into the resolution logic to be certain.
20090212 03:47:25< Shadow_Master> so /data/core/images/wesnoth-icon.png is a product of my imagination, right.
20090212 03:48:11< ESR_> Oh...there;a *third* one!  
20090212 03:48:30< Shadow_Master> ESR_: what about helping me fix a real bug?
20090212 03:48:32< ESR_> Sorry, I see why we crossed wirres now.
20090212 03:48:44< ESR_> Shadow_Master: Which real bug?
20090212 03:49:08< Shadow_Master> bug #12911 contains a saved game that, although it doesn't cause SIGSEGV with trunk anymore, demonstrates that Kaleh's AMLAs no longer work
20090212 03:49:49< ESR_> How can I help?
20090212 03:50:07< Shadow_Master> can you see if the WML behind Kaleh has any faults?
20090212 03:50:18< ESR_> ?
20090212 03:50:30< Shadow_Master> yes, his unit_type's WML..
20090212 03:50:34< ESR_> What would I look at?
20090212 03:50:54< ESR_> Oh, fuck.  That stuff is a mess.
20090212 03:51:47< ESR_> Been there, done that, hve scars.  I'm very reluctant to disturb it without a bug report that has a good recipe-to-reproduce it attached.
20090212 03:51:57 * Shadow_Master is suffering from a bad headache after staring at the whole 1.5.6-1.5.7 C++ diff for a hour.
20090212 03:52:45 * ESR_ normally starts to feel that way after looking at C++ code for anty length of time.
20090212 03:52:54< Shadow_Master> oh... what do we have here?
20090212 03:53:22< Shadow_Master> wesbot: log 31395
20090212 03:53:23< wesbot> shadowmaster * r31395 : Implemented the cure for unit advancements cancer! :-)
20090212 03:53:29< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31395
20090212 03:53:59< Shadow_Master> damned I am if *that* is the cause.
20090212 03:56:19< Shadow_Master> it isn't. pheeew.
20090212 03:57:32< CIA-70> esr * r32773 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (3 files in 2 dirs): More use of *_MUSIC macro wrappers.
20090212 03:57:48< Shadow_Master> but I'm seeing a change in Kaleh.cfg around that (ponders)
20090212 03:59:54< Shadow_Master> ESR_: either you or zookeeper broke it.
20090212 04:00:01< Shadow_Master> wesbot: log 31364
20090212 04:00:02< wesbot> esr * r31364 : Refactor the Kaleh WML so it uses only balanced syntax.
20090212 04:00:05< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31364
20090212 04:00:09< Shadow_Master> wesbot: log 31300
20090212 04:00:09< wesbot> zookeeper * r31300 : Fixed Kaleh's nonexisting AMLA bola attack animation.
20090212 04:00:12< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31300
20090212 04:00:37< Shadow_Master> ESR_: so, I have been attacking the issue from the wrong side. The equivalent of destroying a bug with a nuclear missile indeed.
20090212 04:00:46 * ESR_ is still listening.
20090212 04:01:09< Shadow_Master> now, um, which one is the problem? :-/
20090212 04:01:39< Shadow_Master> (actually, for all I know from the logs and the file replacement I did in my working tree, revision 31373 could be the cause as well)
20090212 04:01:42< ESR_> AI0867: is there any good reasonn not to just *replace* the non-transpatent one?  Where does it make a difference which you use?
20090212 04:02:54 * Shadow_Master waves a gigantic fish-- orca, menacingly
20090212 04:03:48< Shadow_Master> ESR_: you know, I highly doubt that zookeeper could have broken it with 31300
20090212 04:03:54< Shadow_Master> so it is down to you and the WML.
20090212 04:04:08< Shadow_Master> :-/
20090212 04:05:06< ESR_> There's a simple way to check: wmlindent it and see if anything moves.  Or try backing that diff out.
20090212 04:05:28< Shadow_Master> what will wmlindent do?
20090212 04:06:01< ESR_> Reindent it.  If I hasve a tag out of place, it's likely to trigger unexpected reindenting.
20090212 04:06:51< Shadow_Master> well, it won't be so simple to revert r31364 and 31373.
20090212 04:07:25< Shadow_Master> specially with r32411 and 31994 in the way, commited _after_ it was broken
20090212 04:09:22< ESR_> And now you know why I'm reluctant to mess with that WML.
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20090212 04:09:37< Shadow_Master> ESR_: I'll slap you with an orca anyway, so be careful there.
20090212 04:09:59< Shadow_Master> because nobody but you and zookeeper messed with that file in that time period, and zookeeper's change is clearly unrelated
20090212 04:10:03< Shadow_Master> :-)
20090212 04:11:21< ESR_> And the two later commits?  Bear in mind I cleaned that up to *fix* something -- I wouldn't have touched it with a barge-pole, otherwise.
20090212 04:11:54< Shadow_Master> there are no two later commits for 1.5.7
20090212 04:12:18< Shadow_Master> there are only 3 commits with that file in the 1.5.6 .. 1.5.7 interval
20090212 04:13:18< ESR_> Well..try backing down to rgw erev before mine and seeing if the bug reproduces.
20090212 04:14:09< Shadow_Master> I kind of did already.
20090212 04:14:23< Shadow_Master> I copied the Kaleh.cfg from my 1.5.6 tree to trunk
20090212 04:21:49< Shadow_Master> revision 31373 (indentation) was already broken. Let's see revision 31364 (esr's refactoring) :)
20090212 04:23:21< Shadow_Master> ESR_: confirmed. You broke it with your refactoring in 31364.
20090212 04:23:31< Shadow_Master> now let me slap you around with my orca.
20090212 04:24:46< ESR_> I'm standing still for it.
20090212 04:25:20< Shadow_Master> git checkout $(git svn find-rev r31364)^ <long path to Kaleh.cfg> doesn't lie  :)
20090212 04:25:48 * Shadow_Master slaps ESR_ with an orca.
20090212 04:26:22< Shadow_Master> perhaps I should have used  a shark. They have scales, sharp scales.
20090212 04:27:10< Shadow_Master> I'll connect my brain to my pillow to see if I can revert it in a way that doesn't mess with your tools 
20090212 04:30:21< ESR_> AI0867: I'm still trying to find out how wesnoth-icon.png and transparent/wesnoth-icon.png are used differently.
20090212 04:31:42< Shadow_Master> ESR_: let him answer to your first message first :-)
20090212 04:32:36 * Shadow_Master slaps ESR_ with a tuna fish a bit
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20090212 05:42:30< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090212 06:59:30< Sapient> yo
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20090212 07:41:11< CIA-70> esr * r32774 /trunk/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Clean up remaining fuzzy strings in en_GB.
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20090212 08:15:32< Soliton> zookeeper: could this be done in WML in the trait macro? http://gna.org/bugs/?12971
20090212 08:21:02< CIA-70> jetryl * r32775 /trunk/data/core/ (18 files in 2 dirs): Added thunderer idle animation by redeth, and removed the blurred shadows.
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20090212 08:32:47< zookeeper> Soliton, no
20090212 08:40:18< Soliton> might be a good idea to allow traits to specify graphical overlays though?
20090212 08:41:09< zookeeper> sure, sounds like a good idea
20090212 08:41:14< Soliton> though i guess the actual tricky part is finding a good graphical representation that fits.
20090212 08:44:57< zookeeper> personally i don't see much of a problem with how it is currently. maybe the trait name in the right panel could be gold-coloured or something.
20090212 08:46:48< Soliton> well, the point is to see it on the map like for leaders and heroes.
20090212 08:47:28< Soliton> though that coloring might be a neat idea, too. maybe you can use markup there?
20090212 08:49:01< zookeeper> no, it don't work atm
20090212 08:49:24< zookeeper> well, didn't work a long time ago, i doubt anything has changed in that respect
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20090212 09:50:32< CIA-70> thespaceinvader * r32776 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/humans/ (general.png transparent/general.png): Minor update to Human General portrait.
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20090212 10:49:10< Ivanovic> moin
20090212 10:57:11< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32777 /trunk/po/wesnoth/hu.po: updated Hungarian translation
20090212 10:57:42< Ivanovic> ESR_: in the main textdomain are currently 8 missing strings
20090212 10:58:03< Ivanovic> and it was *not* a good idea to just remove the fuzzy markers in this domain since there were real new messages
20090212 10:58:17< Ivanovic> that is: "unknown era" was used as "fuzzy version" for "unknown error"
20090212 10:58:19< ESR_> Ivanovic: What, if anything, am I to do about this?
20090212 10:58:25< Ivanovic> this will look strange...
20090212 10:58:40< Ivanovic> open the file in an editor like poedit and translate the strings i'd day
20090212 10:58:50< ESR_> Sorry, my understanding of the translation tools is still poor.
20090212 10:58:52< Ivanovic> (talking about en_GB at the moment)
20090212 10:59:04< Ivanovic> ESR_: ask your package manager for poedit
20090212 10:59:14< ESR_> I have it.
20090212 10:59:17< Ivanovic> open this program and use it to open the file po/wesnoth/en_GB.po
20090212 10:59:30< Ivanovic> make sure that "unknown error" is really translated correctly
20090212 10:59:46< Ivanovic> and translate the other strings at the top of the list of strings
20090212 11:00:18< Soliton> btw, i'm 99.99% sure we will never use the unknown error string. i'm not sure what the point is supposed to be.
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20090212 11:08:57< ESR_> Ivanovic: All the untranslated strings are messages having to do with nicks.
20090212 11:10:10< ESR_> Ivanovic: One of the key strings is wrong.  It says "characers" where it should say "characters".
20090212 11:10:20< Ivanovic> then fix it
20090212 11:10:50< Ivanovic> and yes, they are, because those are the new error messages that are basically serverside but shown translated to the users now
20090212 11:11:10< Ivanovic> like "this nick is registered, you have to provide the correct password" stuff like this
20090212 11:11:21< ESR_> The key-string field seems to be read-only in poedit.  Wouldn't I have to aso change tghat key in all other files and the .pot?
20090212 11:11:40< Ivanovic> just give me a second to have a look
20090212 11:12:12< Ivanovic> hehe
20090212 11:12:18< Ivanovic> you can't edit the english string in poedit
20090212 11:12:21< Soliton> you have to change the original string where it comes from not in the po file.
20090212 11:12:24< Ivanovic> since it is just meant for translations
20090212 11:12:32< ESR_> I understand.
20090212 11:12:42< Soliton> i can do the fix if you like.
20090212 11:12:47< Ivanovic> you have to edit src/multiplayer.cpp:345
20090212 11:13:26< ESR_> Tht's going to require a large change, in all .po files and in the .pot and somewhere in the source.  Do you want to do that or shall I?
20090212 11:13:55< Soliton> just change the string and Ivanovic will do the rest.
20090212 11:14:30< ESR_> You mean in the one place in that .po?
20090212 11:14:50< Soliton> nevermind, i'll do it.
20090212 11:15:03 * Ivanovic would only run a pot update resulting in a fuzzy string for those translations with the "wrong english string" when sending it in
20090212 11:15:11< ESR_> Wait, lert me commit the updated .po for you.
20090212 11:15:21< Ivanovic> but you could just add it to pofix.py so that the po files will get updated
20090212 11:15:43< ESR_> Yes, I could.
20090212 11:15:51< CIA-70> esr * r32778 /trunk/po/wesnoth/en_GB.po: New strings from the server.
20090212 11:16:16< CIA-70> soliton * r32779 /trunk/src/multiplayer.cpp: typo fix
20090212 11:16:40< ESR_> I am wary of doing anything without checking, though, this late in the cycle and with tools I don't yet completely understand.
20090212 11:17:12< Ivanovic> ESR_: and to remove fuzzy strings you *really* should use poedit instead of just deleting the fuzzy markers without checking
20090212 11:17:24< ESR_> Noted.
20090212 11:17:33< Ivanovic> msgid "Unknown error."
20090212 11:17:37< Ivanovic> msgstr "Unknown error"
20090212 11:17:38< ESR_> Well, I was checking by eyeball.
20090212 11:17:46< Ivanovic> the '.' at the end is missing, intentional?
20090212 11:17:53< ESR_> No.
20090212 11:17:58< Soliton> an unknown error!
20090212 11:18:03< ESR_> :-)
20090212 11:18:14< Ivanovic> Soliton: no, known i'd say it is
20090212 11:18:15< Ivanovic> ;)
20090212 11:20:59 * ESR_ is looking at pofix.py
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20090212 11:27:34< loonycyborg> Sapient: I didn't change *Options to *Variables because I'm trying to maintain scons 0.96.93 compatibility which is in Debian etch.
20090212 11:28:17< loonycyborg> I'm planning to drop this compatibility in 1.7
20090212 11:28:38 * ESR_ wonders which so many people habitually mis-capitalize the common noun "lich" as "Lich" when they don't make the analogous mistake for other monsters.
20090212 11:29:00< ESR_> s/wonders which/wonders why/
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20090212 11:45:00< ESR_> Ivanovic: Some string fixes (made by newly enhanced pofix.py() are coming.
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20090212 12:10:37< CIA-70> esr * r32780 /trunk/ (196 files in 8 dirs): 
20090212 12:10:37< CIA-70> More minor translation-string fixes (typos, capitalization errors, and other
20090212 12:10:37< CIA-70> meaning-preserving changes) and an enhanced pofix.py to do the mechanically.
20090212 12:15:29< Ivanovic> ESR_: so you are ready with your changes?
20090212 12:15:44< Ivanovic> can i run a pot-update to make sure that the files are "correct" and working?
20090212 12:16:14< ESR_> I just committed them.  Yers, do the pot-update.
20090212 12:16:54< ESR_> This batch is mostly incorrect capitalizations of "lich", plus the "characer" typo.
20090212 12:18:01< ESR_> Plus one place where the writer wrote "loose lodged", which is bad English - should be "dislodged", and I think the translators will have read it that way,
20090212 12:23:20< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32781 /trunk/po/ (288 files in 6 dirs): pot-update (makeing sure that files are merged correctly (last pofix.py run) and that references are correct)
20090212 12:23:44< ESR_> Ivanovic: Everything look OK?
20090212 12:23:52< Ivanovic> jupp
20090212 12:26:00< Ivanovic> beside this: in the replacement script you can completely omit lines starting with '#~'
20090212 12:26:07< Ivanovic> those are "commented out lines" in po files
20090212 12:26:17< ESR_> Noted.
20090212 12:26:19< Ivanovic> which *might* later be used for fuzzy matching, but are currently not used
20090212 12:26:44< Ivanovic> they are basically strings that were previously in and translated but are not listed in the reference list (that is the .pot file)
20090212 12:28:30< Ivanovic> ESR_: and you forgot one fix: scenarios/19b_Swamp_Of_Dread.cfg
20090212 12:28:41< Ivanovic>  message= _ "A final blow destroys the Lich, releasing a small (....)"
20090212 12:28:42< ESR_> Which one?
20090212 12:28:53< ESR_> Ah.  You can get that.
20090212 12:29:12< ESR_> I think I need to sleep now, is ^AM here.
20090212 12:29:19< ESR_> 6AM, I mean.
20090212 12:29:51< Ivanovic> :)
20090212 12:30:04< Ivanovic> already wanted to ask how late '^' really is...
20090212 12:30:22< ESR_> Shift-6
20090212 12:30:59< ESR_> Night.
20090212 12:31:07< Ivanovic> on german layouts that is '&'
20090212 12:31:52< Ivanovic> okay, fixing this 'Lich' -> 'lich' string
20090212 12:32:10< Ivanovic> *but* in this scenario file there seems to be *lots* of wrong usages of the term Lich
20090212 12:40:02< Ivanovic> ESR_: and i got to mention that i dislike this "timestamp" part in the script
20090212 12:40:09< Ivanovic> pofix: 48 files processed, 0 files modified, 48 files newer
20090212 12:40:10< Ivanovic> pofix: script may be obsolete
20090212 12:40:29< Ivanovic> what is the reason for having this part in there?
20090212 12:41:55< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32782 /trunk/ (49 files in 2 dirs): complete the fix for httt (including pot-update)...
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20090212 13:18:33< AI0867> ESR_: I'm not sure if anything would require the smaller wesnoth icon, but the possibility is why I added the bigger version in a way I knew was supported and wouldn't break anything
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20090212 13:25:54< AI0867> Ivanovic: are you aware that wesnoth-test, wesnoth-anl and wesnoth-low are currently broken?
20090212 13:26:07< Ivanovic> AI0867: they are?
20090212 13:26:18< AI0867> crap
20090212 13:26:21< AI0867> was looking at 1.4
20090212 13:26:25< AI0867> why is that still the default?
20090212 13:26:26< Ivanovic> they seem to be working nicely ehre...
20090212 13:27:26< AI0867> they're broken in 1.4, which makes sense for wesnoth-low, as it's not in there, probably the same thing with the others
20090212 13:28:00< AI0867> but as we don't want translators to translate 1.4 anymore, how about changing the default for gettext.wesnoth.org to development?
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20090212 13:49:24< Ivanovic> yeah, eventually we should switch the default
20090212 13:49:35< Ivanovic> no idea where exactly that is set and i won't look into it right now
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20090212 15:27:31 * fabi lost his working copy.
20090212 15:27:58< fabi> What's the commandline for a svn write co again?
20090212 15:28:38< Ivanovic> what do you mean with write?
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20090212 15:28:41< Ivanovic> for commiting?
20090212 15:28:42< Ivanovic> svn ci
20090212 15:28:49< loonycyborg> svn co svn+ssh://yourname@svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk
20090212 15:30:21< fabi> loonycyborg: thank you. That does it.
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20090212 16:00:43< Shadow_Master> hi
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20090212 16:01:29< Shadow_Master> ah! a grue! :(
20090212 16:06:31< happygrue_> don't get eaten!
20090212 16:07:28 * Shadow_Master runs away
20090212 16:07:43< happygrue_> http://xkcd.com/91/
20090212 16:07:46 * Ivanovic sharpens his knive
20090212 16:08:23 * happygrue_ knows knives are useless against a grue!
20090212 16:11:03< Shadow_Master> connection drops seem to be effective though!
20090212 16:15:17< happygrue_> hehe
20090212 16:15:22< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32784 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/Kaleh.cfg: 
20090212 16:15:22< CIA-70> Fix another part of bug #12911 and the subject of http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24028 :
20090212 16:15:22< CIA-70> Kaleh's AMLAs don't do anything but HP/XP changes.
20090212 16:15:22< CIA-70> Reverted r31364 from ESR_ for causing this.
20090212 16:15:22< CIA-70> I actually reverted to the 1.5.6 state and merged revisions 31300, 31373 and 31994 by hand. Revision 32411 doesn't apply somehow. This doesn't
20090212 16:15:26< CIA-70> fix, however, the problem that in the saved game attached to bug #12911 Kaleh may be offered 2 or 3 AMLAs depending on some random condition.
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20090212 16:16:21< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32785 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/Kaleh.cfg: 
20090212 16:16:21< CIA-70> Add some 'wmlindent: * ignoring' pragmas around to make wmlindent leave
20090212 16:16:21< CIA-70> Kaleh.cfg in peace next time mainline is reindented.
20090212 16:16:21< CIA-70> Please do *not* attempt to rewrite this file for wmlindent if you don't
20090212 16:16:21< CIA-70> entirely know how the WML here works.
20090212 16:18:56 * Shadow_Master sends his regards to ESR_ 
20090212 16:18:57< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32786 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Mention changes of r32775 in the changelogs.
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20090212 16:20:17 * Shadow_Master pokes fabi 
20090212 16:27:27< fabi> Shadow_Master: Thank you. Compiling...
20090212 16:28:02< Shadow_Master> fabi: compiling?
20090212 16:28:16< Shadow_Master> There's no C++ involved.
20090212 16:28:38< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: He lost his working copy :P
20090212 16:28:50< Shadow_Master> ohhh...
20090212 16:29:14< Shadow_Master> that reminds me that I should make my monthly git tarball.
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20090212 16:33:39< Shadow_Master> does the "Unknown error" message from the server trigger when 0 == 1 or something? :p
20090212 16:39:41< AI0867> } catch(...) { /* WTF? */ something.display(_("Unknown Error") ); }
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20090212 16:40:55< AI0867> I can see why the grue is happy: my terminal background is black
20090212 16:41:21< AI0867> my nick is white though, I hope that's enough not to get eaten
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20090212 16:51:56< fabi> Shadow_Master: Do you know an easy way to test your commit?
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20090212 17:04:17< Shadow_Master> fabi: bah.
20090212 17:11:11< Shadow_Master> fabi:   wget http://shadowm.nfshost.com/bug12911_probable_fix.gz
20090212 17:12:30< Shadow_Master> when attacking the poacher, the  AMLAs should affect the attack stats. But you won't gain anything since you for some reason couldn't reproduce the bug.
20090212 17:12:46< Shadow_Master> or never understood my explanation of it, which I won't repeat because I've already done so around four times.
20090212 17:14:28< Ivanovic> so you are making some *real* progress on the amla bugs in utbs?
20090212 17:15:47< Shadow_Master> yes, only problem left AFAIK is why Kaleh may not always get the same AMLAs for the same attack sequence.
20090212 17:16:20< Shadow_Master> but that would suggest another YogiHH bug probably.
20090212 17:17:15< Shadow_Master> fabi: disregard the saved game name btw, the "probable fix" was for a different matter
20090212 17:20:51 * Shadow_Master . O o (let's be honest, it's impossible to differentiate bugs in UtBS atm)
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20090212 17:25:02< AI0867> what does the translatable string at src/multiplayer.cpp:356 mean?
20090212 17:26:43< Shadow_Master> it means that someone tried to put the wrong kind of plant in that flowerpot
20090212 17:27:06< Shadow_Master> what about consulting wesnothd's source code?
20090212 17:28:14< Shadow_Master> src/server/server.cpp :p
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20090212 17:43:30< Shadow_Master> uh... "AI has north-west bias" made it to the tracker : https://gna.org/bugs/?12978 ;)
20090212 17:48:28< AI0867> Shadow_Master: I did, and it seems to contradict the string
20090212 17:49:06< AI0867> my interpretation is that the error code is passed if the forum user doesn't have a seed in their password hash
20090212 17:49:16< AI0867> but the translatable speaks of a seed for the connection
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20090212 17:53:10< AI0867> mordante: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24052
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20090212 19:44:41< ESR_> Ivanovic: The en_GB bar at http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/ has not budged since I began working on the translation.  Is it certain this page is actually being updated?
20090212 19:48:28< jorda> ESR_: Version: Development ?
20090212 19:49:02< ESR_> jorda: Yup.
20090212 19:49:41< ESR_> Wait, maybe I', misreading the text color, there.  Checking...
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20090212 19:58:07< YogiHH> hello everyone
20090212 19:58:30< YogiHH> ilor, can you help me with building wesnoth with vc++?
20090212 20:00:40< CIA-70> esr * r32788 /trunk/ (49 files in 2 dirs): 
20090212 20:00:40< CIA-70> "lodged loose" -> "dislodged" again (evidently pofix.py needs some work).
20090212 20:00:40< CIA-70> Also, fix two fuzzies in en_GB.po.
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20090212 20:02:41< Sapient> loonycyborg: hi. I guess I will submit a patch to patches.wesnoth.org for the scons enhancement I added, and assign it to you?
20090212 20:03:02< loonycyborg> Sapient: Sure.
20090212 20:03:32< Sapient> I added a check for unknown variables and added the ability to pass {target}_rename=example_name.exe for arbitrary targets
20090212 20:04:13< Sapient> the main reason I added it was because the "hard link" wastes a lot of time creating a copy on windows
20090212 20:05:15< loonycyborg> Does Vista support real hardlinks now, btw? :)
20090212 20:06:46< loonycyborg> I think it might be possible to use get unknown variables function while keeping compatibility with scons 0.96.93
20090212 20:06:52< CIA-70> esr * r32789 /trunk/po/wesnoth-httt/en_GB.po: This one-letter fix hould have been in my last commit :-(.
20090212 20:07:06< loonycyborg> Using try: except NameError:
20090212 20:08:37< Sapient> loonycyborg: I tried that approach first
20090212 20:08:59< Sapient> I could not find sufficient documentation on the AddOptions stuff, since it is so outdated
20090212 20:09:35< loonycyborg> AFAIK AddOptions and AddVariables are synonimous.
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20090212 20:19:38< Sapient> ok, I'll see if I can find an equivalent Options method
20090212 20:24:53< loonycyborg> Sapient: FYI all scons documentation with exception of man page sucks :) http://www.scons.org/doc/1.2.0/HTML/scons-man.html
20090212 20:25:26< Sapient> I read the man pages
20090212 20:26:44< loonycyborg> AFAIK there's no Options equivalent to UnknownVariables
20090212 20:27:12< loonycyborg> You can just "pass" in the except block.
20090212 20:28:29< Sapient> ???
20090212 20:28:35< Sapient> then what goes in the try?
20090212 20:29:13< loonycyborg> I can't tell without looking at your patch.
20090212 20:29:18< Sapient> look, I'm just going to submit the patch later today
20090212 20:29:28< Sapient> you can do with it whatever you want
20090212 20:29:47< loonycyborg> It's possible that I'm not making any sense at all :)
20090212 20:30:13< Sirp> loonycyborg: but scons is written in Python, right? So presumably it's so easy that anyone can just read and understand the source code? :p
20090212 20:32:06< loonycyborg> Sirp: Since I don't see Sapient's code, your remark is moot :)
20090212 20:32:10< happygrue> hehe
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20090212 20:33:09< Sapient> Sirp -- hypothetically I could have dug around in the source code but I wasted enough time just getting the darn thing to work
20090212 20:33:19< happygrue> moot: open to discussion or debate.
20090212 20:33:24< happygrue> as in: Ent Moot
20090212 20:33:29< Sapient> so I don't have a lot of patience to work on it further
20090212 20:35:28< Sapient> and since people insist on supporting hyper-outdated versions of scons, there would be little joy from patching it
20090212 20:36:04< loonycyborg> I won't insist on it after 1.6 release :)
20090212 20:37:10< Ivanovic> Sapient: have you already tried to build using cmake?
20090212 20:37:40< Sapient> I've avoided installing cygwin thus far
20090212 20:37:47< Sapient> so I don't intend to start now
20090212 20:37:51< Ivanovic> Sapient: that is: with the config tool you should be able to easily change lib paths and all this stuff and then just generate files for whatever ide you want
20090212 20:37:59< Ivanovic> uhm, why cygwin?
20090212 20:38:08< Ivanovic> there should be no cygwin needed for cmake
20090212 20:38:14< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: There's no way to build without pkg-config with cmake.
20090212 20:38:27< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: really?
20090212 20:38:43< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: because of which packages we use?
20090212 20:38:49< Sapient> Ivanovic: the whole reason I switched to scons was so I wouldn't have to let Code::Blocks use up all my memory and CPU while I do stuff
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20090212 20:39:24< Ivanovic> Sapient: ah
20090212 20:39:37< Sapient> so generating a .cbp was not my goal; I already got a working one that I maintain myself
20090212 20:40:47< Ivanovic> :)
20090212 20:41:01< Ivanovic> which compiler are you using then?
20090212 20:41:14< Ivanovic> you using mingw or something like this?
20090212 20:45:12< Ivanovic> that is: you can generate mingw makefiles with cmake (which use cmd.exe)
20090212 20:45:49< grzywacz> evening
20090212 20:46:05< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: But he already got scons working :)
20090212 20:46:15< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: boring...
20090212 20:46:17< Ivanovic> ;)
20090212 20:46:35< loonycyborg> No. cmake presentations are boring.
20090212 20:46:57< loonycyborg> Those on FOSDEM.
20090212 20:47:02< Sapient> Ivanovic: yes I'm using mingw gcc
20090212 20:47:28< Sapient> I wish I had known that I could generate mingw makefiles with cmake which use cmd.exe
20090212 20:47:28< loonycyborg> Designed to mesmerize people who should know better.
20090212 20:47:49< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: cf http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Generator_Specific_Information
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20090212 20:48:08< Sapient> but now that I got scons workingm it is easier to mod/extend
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20090212 20:48:23< Sapient> so I'll probably stick with it
20090212 20:49:35< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: You see, flexibility is more important than support for flashy IDEs.
20090212 20:49:47< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: uhm, heh?
20090212 20:50:09< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: just because Sapient did not *know* that it is possible to export to mingw make files cmake is not flexible?
20090212 20:51:18< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: No. It's inflexible because it's based on make.
20090212 20:51:28< Ivanovic> HEH?!?
20090212 20:51:32< Ivanovic> it is *not* based on make
20090212 20:51:42< loonycyborg> Yes. It is.
20090212 20:51:51< Ivanovic> it supports *variuos* output formats, not just "make"
20090212 20:51:55< Ivanovic> so it is *not* based on make
20090212 20:52:15< Ivanovic> or do you say that eg visual studio or eclipse cdt are based on make?
20090212 20:52:20< Ivanovic> since those are possible exports, too
20090212 20:52:24< loonycyborg> GNU make, BSD make, Microsoft NMake.
20090212 20:52:43< loonycyborg> Projectfiles just call makefiles.
20090212 20:53:31< Ivanovic> sorry, but those tools are called "make" though they don't have much in common at all...
20090212 20:54:10< loonycyborg> They have target: sources <Newline> <Tab> command syntax and all that.
20090212 20:54:23< Ivanovic> and yeah, all rely on some "build those things and link it afterwards"
20090212 20:55:11< loonycyborg> Once http://code.google.com/p/scons-plusplus/ will have Makefile backend, CMake will support it too :P
20090212 20:55:26< Ivanovic> sure
20090212 20:55:27< Ivanovic> ^^
20090212 20:56:23< Ivanovic> the positive part about cmake is that you can not really program in the build scripts leading to cleaner files where with python you likely start to program for the build stuff
20090212 20:56:48< loonycyborg> There's no difference between programming and non-programming.
20090212 20:57:00< Ivanovic> the difference is the complexity
20090212 20:57:23< loonycyborg> Consequently, it depends on API, not on language.
20090212 20:58:03< YogiHH> ilor: ping
20090212 20:58:04< Ivanovic> and i prefer the cmake api, it is easier to use since it is not a full fledged "general purpose" language
20090212 20:58:19< ilor> YogiHH: pong
20090212 20:58:28< Ivanovic> just a limited number of commands that are needed for a build system
20090212 20:58:46< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: The fact that it's not a full fledged "general purpose" language makes it harder to use, not easier.
20090212 20:58:46< Ivanovic> anyway, afk for a while
20090212 20:59:00< YogiHH> ilor: i tried your project files for vc++ 2008. I am up to the point where everything seems to work, but now i get linker errors for boost
20090212 20:59:12< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Look at FindBoost.cmake for an illustration :)
20090212 20:59:15< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: for someone with a good knowledge in the language: sure, since you got to learn some new syntax
20090212 20:59:28< YogiHH> ilor: something is linking against 1_35 while i use 1_34. Any idea where that comes from?
20090212 20:59:35< ilor> YogiHH: how did youu get boost?
20090212 20:59:38< Ivanovic> for someone to just edit build recipes it is a lot simpler with less commands
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20090212 21:00:15< YogiHH> ilor: i don't remember. If you ask because of the needed patches for vc9, i did apply them
20090212 21:00:30< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Nope.
20090212 21:00:40< ilor> no, I ask because what I did was get the sources and build with bjam, then bjam install to a dir
20090212 21:00:56< YogiHH> ilor: i did build with bjam
20090212 21:00:59< loonycyborg> The requirement is to provide right commands, not less commands.
20090212 21:01:02< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: for me the sconstruct files look more difficult than the cmakelist files
20090212 21:01:08< Ivanovic> and that's simply it
20090212 21:01:14< ilor> YogiHH: and I have the appropriate boost include/ and lib/ dirs in msvc-wide settings
20090212 21:01:47< YogiHH> ah, that's why i couldn't find them :-)
20090212 21:02:29< ilor> along with the SDL libs that are in a different dir but it works just the same
20090212 21:02:35< YogiHH> ilor: anyway, everything seems right, i just don't understand why the linker thinks he needs 1_35
20090212 21:02:55< ilor> YogiHH: maybe you are using 1.35 headers somehow
20090212 21:03:28< YogiHH> ilor: hmm, that could be an option. I will check about that
20090212 21:03:52< ilor> boost uses auto-linking iirc, so whatever headers you have will make it use library files from the same version
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20090212 21:17:55< YogiHH> ilor: ok, that was a good idea :-)
20090212 21:20:21< ilor> speaking of cmake, how does one make it find boost in windows?
20090212 21:25:08< loonycyborg> ilor: If it has dw2 suffix, you don't :)
20090212 21:26:25< loonycyborg> ilor: Basically the same way as with scons: specify its location on command-line.
20090212 21:26:35< loonycyborg> Or do the same in GUI.
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20090212 21:47:56< Ivanovic> ilor: in the gui you can explicitly specify the files to be used, too
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20090212 21:48:12< Ivanovic> (that is the fun with the dw2 suffix should not matter too much)
20090212 21:49:42< Ivanovic> eg here on my system i got this: Boost_IOSTREAMS_LIBRARY /usr/lib64/libboost_iostreams-mt.so
20090212 21:50:32< Ivanovic> so probably at least some of the stuff *should* somehow be possibe
20090212 22:09:33< YogiHH> ilor: how do i tell boost to use zlib.lib instead of libboost_zlib-vc90-mt-gd-1_34_1.lib? I though specifying ZLIB_BINARY, ZLIB_INCLUDE and ZLIB_LIBPATH would be enough?
20090212 22:10:39< ilor> YogiHH: this zlib boost business is a bit wonky. You better build boost_zlib
20090212 22:17:15< zookeeper> hrhm, i wonder if it'd be too unusual to change the stats of the eyestalk in TSG according to difficulty...i presume that the troubles newbie players have in that scenario are _partly_ due to that unit being somewhat tough to deal with, especially without higher level melee units.
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20090212 22:17:42< zookeeper> i'm thinking the ranged attack could be something like 8-3 on easy, 11-3 on normal and the current 13-3 on hard.
20090212 22:18:22< zookeeper> although it still does arcane and thus could probably still kill most lvl1 elves in one attack.
20090212 22:18:49< zookeeper> the obvious alternative would be to remove it altogether on easy
20090212 22:25:54< YogiHH> ilor: you know the --with switch for boost zlib?
20090212 22:26:36< ilor> YogiHH: sorry, no
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20090212 22:34:00< zookeeper> fabi, err, there's not much to commit for the forests.
20090212 22:37:44< zookeeper> oh, nevermind, i forgot about that one set.
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20090212 22:44:14< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090212 22:53:45< Shadow_Master> fabi: pling
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20090212 23:12:28< Shadow_Master> why operating systems suck so much against network issues?
20090212 23:12:31< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32791 /trunk/data/core/ (36 files in 2 dirs): Refactored the deciduous forest image filenames and WML a bit and wired in some adjacent-to-castle variants.
20090212 23:13:04< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: Because network stuff is weird :P
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20090212 23:28:03< Ivanovic> time for me to head off to bed, n8
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20090212 23:29:41< Sapient> yo Yogi
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20090212 23:29:57< Sapient> YogiHH: I posted some tips in the compilation forum about building boost with zlib
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20090212 23:30:27< YogiHH> hi Sapient, i will have a look at that, although it seems like i made it
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20090212 23:30:38< Sapient> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=331300#p331300
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20090212 23:34:38< Shadow_Master> sudo invoke-rc.d network-manager restart
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20090212 23:35:56< loonycyborg> /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart :P
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20090212 23:41:12< Sapient> loonycyborg: patch #1122 submitted
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20090212 23:44:43< YogiHH> good night
20090212 23:44:48< Sapient> gn, Yogi
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20090212 23:48:43< fabi> Shadow_Master_, Shadow_M1ster_: pong
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20090212 23:51:13< Shadow_Master_> fabi: the persistence test add-on's display problem is realted to the [endlevel] result=victory
20090212 23:51:34 * loonycyborg wonders whether he should create the binary right in wesnoth root instead of hardlinking.
20090212 23:51:46< Shadow_Master_> I apparently the display code becomes confused since the display is locked in a prestart event or something
20090212 23:52:03< Shadow_Master_> the correct code should be [endlevel] result=continue_no_save nonetheless
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20090212 23:53:14< Shadow_Master> Sapient: pling
20090212 23:53:20< Sapient> Shadow_Master: ?
20090212 23:53:26< Shadow_Master> fabi: but please do not commit a fix to svn!
20090212 23:54:01< Shadow_Master> Sapient: can you take care of a bug titled "assertion false failed on display.cpp" or something?
20090212 23:54:17< Sapient> that sounds like a new GUI bug
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20090212 23:54:40< Shadow_Master> or is it out of your area of expertise?
20090212 23:54:40< Sapient> I am no longer accepting GUI bugs assigned to me, sorry
20090212 23:54:47< Shadow_Master> I'd not say so; [endlevel] uses the old GUI
20090212 23:55:24< Sapient> and I can firmly assert that I never write assert(false);
20090212 23:55:24< Shadow_Master> argh. I don't think Mordante has an idea of what's wrong there either.
20090212 23:56:48< Shadow_Master> :-/ we have got too many important bugs for 1.6 and little work force. I'll have to assign it to me 
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20090212 23:57:03< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: I remember getting that assert in various situations :)
20090212 23:57:48< Sapient> where are all the googleizers when you need them
20090212 23:58:00< Sapient> martyfuhry_ might want it
20090212 23:58:36< Sapient> he's trying to build up some kudo rank for the GSoC
20090212 23:59:55< Shadow_Master> fabi: assigned it to me, will check it later tonight.
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