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20090215 00:06:06< Sirp_> boucman: do you know anything about this 'force disconnect' stuff in the network code?
20090215 00:06:43< boucman> well, a little
20090215 00:07:18< boucman> not sure why we needed it
20090215 00:07:32< boucman> I think I understand more or less how it's supposed to work
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20090215 00:10:51< Ivanovic> i am off to bed, n8
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20090215 00:12:42< Sirp_> boucman: the thing is, I think it's horribly broken; if we force a quit, the thread handling the socket will likely crash
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20090215 00:12:58< alink> hi
20090215 00:13:01< shadowm_outdoors> yo alink
20090215 00:13:07 * alink still alive :)
20090215 00:13:10< shadowm_outdoors> long time no see :)
20090215 00:13:11< Sirp_> boucman: I think we need to discard this forced quitting stuff. Instead make the worker threads only pool/select for a short amount of time and regularly check to see if they should terminate.
20090215 00:13:18< alink> hello shadowm_outdoors
20090215 00:13:46< shadowm_outdoors> alink: how much time do you have?
20090215 00:14:25< alink> shadowm_outdoors: well it's late, so one can say that  i have time now :)
20090215 00:14:48< boucman> Sirp_: I agree that it's broken, but IIRC, the working threads ARE polling for small amount of time  and checking for the STATE_INTERRUPT status
20090215 00:15:02< shadowm_outdoors> I don't right now, perhaps in one hour. I'm on batteries and with less than 5% left .p
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20090215 00:15:16< alink> shadowm_outdoors: checked my savegame sent by mail (for your fog bug) ?
20090215 00:15:43< alink> s/savegame/test-scenario.cfg
20090215 00:15:54< shadowm_outdoors> no, I've been in nd out today, will do once I  get home
20090215 00:15:59< boucman> ... or not
20090215 00:16:48< alink> shadowm_outdoors: in short, all seems to work here, at least with the wml that
20090215 00:16:55< alink> s/that/like that
20090215 00:17:50< boucman> well not when receivint at least
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20090215 00:18:36< shadowm_outdoors> I'll try to turn on my broken lappy.
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20090215 00:23:21< Sirp_> boucman: no, they poll for 60 seconds in most cases
20090215 00:23:26< Sirp_> boucman: which is far too long.
20090215 00:23:31< boucman> indeed
20090215 00:23:33< Sirp_> they should poll for maybe 100ms and then check
20090215 00:23:46< Sirp_> boucman: do you want to try to make the change to fix this, or do you want me to?
20090215 00:23:47< boucman> you said you had a simple fix...
20090215 00:23:57< Sirp_> a 'simple fix'? :)
20090215 00:24:07< boucman> Sirp_: please go on, it's pretty late, and that's code I'm quite uneasy with...
20090215 00:24:15< Sirp_> boucman: okay; will do.
20090215 00:24:23< Sirp_> though I think it's giong to be somewhat complicated. :)
20090215 00:24:28< boucman> I'll gladly read the commit mail, though
20090215 00:25:01< boucman> Sirp_: sometime, I believe it would be better to ditch and rewrite that whole layer, but my C++ is not good enough to do this in a sane way
20090215 00:28:42< boucman> night all
20090215 00:28:57< alink> gn boucman
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20090215 01:15:56< alink> boucman: assigned a bug to you about a strange and rare broken flag animation, with the possible commit causing it
20090215 01:16:16< alink> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12987
20090215 01:22:09< alink> Mordante: the patch #1093 commited in http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?rev=28663&view=rev  introduced a change for color cursor. I don't think it was wanted
20090215 01:22:31< alink> the cursor hiding done by SDL is very buggy
20090215 01:22:59< alink> this is why there is code using a transparent b&w cursor to avoid it
20090215 01:24:12< alink> SDL bug with hidden cursor that I have on my debian KDE nvidia:  
20090215 01:24:34< alink> slow mouse speed in fullscreen  (and i know that some other linux users also have this one)
20090215 01:24:50< alink> ignore left handed mouse setting
20090215 01:25:36< alink> somettimes crash my X session (!), if this session was used by different KDE users 
20090215 01:26:11< alink> i have those bugs with other SDL games
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20090215 02:17:25< Shadow_Master> :(
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20090215 02:23:32< Shadow_Master> well, at least it seems I got alink to report new bugs :)
20090215 02:25:37< Shadow_Master> sync ; sync ; cpu1_up
20090215 02:26:09< Shadow_Master> eh, anyone knows if there's any way to teach the synaptics driver to ignore a certain touchpad area btw?
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20090215 03:24:21< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32808 /trunk/po/wesnoth-httt/es.po: Spanish translation update.
20090215 03:27:39< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32809 /trunk/changelog: Grammar fix.
20090215 03:27:59< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32810 /trunk/changelog: Mention changes of r32801.
20090215 03:31:01< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32811 /trunk/changelog: 
20090215 03:31:01< CIA-70> Merge the duplicate "Multiplayer" sections, put other sections in
20090215 03:31:01< CIA-70> alphabetical order with "Miscellaneous..." at the end, and mention that
20090215 03:31:01< CIA-70> mixed deciduous-pine forest terrains are available now. Moved an entry
20090215 03:31:01< CIA-70> from "Graphics" to the "Terrains" section.
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20090215 04:05:49< Espreon> I just submitted a bug report... https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12988
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20090215 05:00:28< Sirp_> hi cjhopman 
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20090215 05:11:42< cjhopman> hi Sirp_
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20090215 08:51:47< Mordante> morning
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20090215 09:00:53< Soliton> Ivanovic: mind if i add a translatable string for the tooltip of the remember password checkbox to explain that it deletes the password when unchecked?
20090215 09:03:17< Mordante> alink did you test with reverting the parts of that patch which breaks colour cursor?
20090215 09:03:37< Mordante> I never use colour cursor so no idea whether or not it got slower
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20090215 09:16:23< boucman> hmm
20090215 09:16:43< boucman> thx alink I'll have a look
20090215 09:16:55< boucman> the commit can be safely reverted, if it's needed
20090215 09:21:54 * dfranke just saved himself some embarassment...
20090215 09:22:14< dfranke> I was a minute away from reporting that music was broken in the latest SVN, then I realized my headphones were unplugged.
20090215 09:24:47< zookeeper> good for you ;)
20090215 09:38:09< zookeeper> boucman, do you think this patch would really work properly? it looks too short and simple ;) http://gna.org/patch/?1123
20090215 09:40:14< Mordante> we're in a feature freeze :-P
20090215 09:40:34< Mordante> but the patch looks trivial enough for me
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20090215 11:05:30< Ivanovic> Soliton: do so
20090215 11:07:06< Soliton> Ivanovic: seems like you have a friend frequenting #wesnoth.
20090215 11:07:19< Ivanovic> moin
20090215 11:08:58< Ivanovic> man, this dude is quite lunatic
20090215 11:09:14< Mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20090215 11:11:20< Ivanovic> short question: do we really need the "adjust gamma" slider?
20090215 11:11:30< Ivanovic> that is: do you think it is usefull or not
20090215 11:11:36< Mordante> at least he has quite some personalities ;-)
20090215 11:11:43< Ivanovic> since it seems to be that cause for at least some crashes
20090215 11:12:12< Mordante> I never used gamma correction in wesnoth, I adjust my monitor when needed
20090215 11:12:35< Mordante> and it indeed seems buggy
20090215 11:12:55< Ivanovic> and if this is an option that is not used anyway, i would vote for removal of it
20090215 11:13:00< Mordante> maybe remove the UI part and look how many complains we get
20090215 11:13:13< Mordante> if none remove it
20090215 11:13:22< Mordante> OAB ;-)
20090215 11:13:38< Ivanovic> sounds good to me
20090215 11:13:58< Ivanovic> but do so in a way that the translateable strings are "visible" until the code is really removed
20090215 11:14:42 * Mordante looks around and sees everybody has stepped back...
20090215 11:15:42< Ivanovic> jupp
20090215 11:16:06< Mordante> now I know why I should have joined the army ;-)
20090215 11:17:03< Ivanovic> i was there for 9 months and trust me, it is not this different from what you experience as wesnoth dev
20090215 11:17:05< Ivanovic> ;)
20090215 11:19:16< Mordante> :-)
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20090215 11:20:30< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32812 /trunk/po/wesnoth/nl.po: updated Dutch translation
20090215 11:20:47< Ivanovic> AI0867: the way you sent the last update is just the way i want them!
20090215 11:42:46< Mordante> afk
20090215 11:42:49< CIA-70> mordante * r32813 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20090215 11:42:49< CIA-70> Removed the gamma correction option.
20090215 11:42:49< CIA-70> The code caused quite some crashes and we're not convinced the option is really
20090215 11:42:49< CIA-70> that useful. The code has only been disabled to evaluate how many people will
20090215 11:42:49< CIA-70> miss the feature. If really not useful the code needs to be removed and the
20090215 11:42:52< CIA-70> preferences dialog display tab needs a cleanup to look good without this
20090215 11:42:54< CIA-70> option (the other options need to be moved upwards).
20090215 11:43:14< Soliton> Ivanovic: so how'd you pick up that crazy guy? :-P
20090215 11:45:39< Soliton> Baufo: "Uncheck to delete the saved password (on exit)." good tooltip for the remember password box?
20090215 11:46:20< Baufo> Soliton, I didn't add a tooltip to avoid a new string
20090215 11:46:38< Baufo> but it sounds good
20090215 11:47:02< Soliton> right, i asked Ivanovic.
20090215 11:47:25< Baufo> alright, I'll add it then
20090215 11:47:46< Soliton> no need i'm about to commit it.
20090215 11:48:00< Baufo> ok, great
20090215 11:51:08< CIA-70> soliton * r32814 /trunk/src/game_preferences_display.cpp: add a tooltip for the password checkbox
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20090215 12:01:07< CIA-70> baufo * r32815 /trunk/src/game_preferences_display.cpp: typo fix
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20090215 12:17:30< Soliton> zookeeper: http://gna.org/bugs/?12990 that's where the cth hack kicks in, right?
20090215 12:37:18< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32816 /trunk/po/ (193 files in 5 dirs): 
20090215 12:37:18< CIA-70> pot-update (some new/changed strings)
20090215 12:37:18< CIA-70> regenerated doc files (no changes here...)
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20090215 13:16:39< AI0867> is the author of bruteforce.py still around?
20090215 13:17:58< Soliton> no.
20090215 13:18:35< Ivanovic> should be this forum thread, right? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15764
20090215 13:19:13< Ivanovic> his last post was may 2007
20090215 13:19:22< Ivanovic> so it is a clear "no he is not around anymore"
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20090215 13:20:34< AI0867> k
20090215 13:20:47< AI0867> I'm trying to figure out if some code is doing what it should be doing
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20090215 13:43:57< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32817 /branches/resources/gettext.wesnoth.org/public_html/wesnoth-gettext/westats/index.php: make trunk the default page when visiting g.w.o (at least I hope this does so...)
20090215 13:45:17< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32818 /branches/resources/gettext.wesnoth.org/public_html/wesnoth-gettext/westats/index.php: of course there was a typo...
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20090215 13:56:55< Mordante> I see it's the pot-update time of the year again ;-)
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20090215 13:59:39< Ivanovic> yeah
20090215 13:59:52< Ivanovic> just to bring joy to all the wesnoth devs
20090215 14:00:00< Ivanovic> especially those with "not so broadband" connections
20090215 14:00:20< Mordante> I'm sure they'll love you for that ;-)
20090215 14:01:42< Mordante> maybe we should make it a requirement for gsoc students to have a braodband connection :-P
20090215 14:11:25< Ivanovic> :)
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20090215 15:12:38< AI0867> Ivanovic: sounds like a good moment to update gettext.wesnoth.org's copyright notice
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20090215 15:32:04< CIA-70> mordante * r32819 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/debug.cpp: Added some extra newlines in the output.
20090215 15:32:09< CIA-70> mordante * r32820 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/debug.cpp: 
20090215 15:32:09< CIA-70> Fixed a problem with generating invalid dot files.
20090215 15:32:09< CIA-70> For some reason the formatter seems to fail so used another way to
20090215 15:32:09< CIA-70> generate the info. Added some asserts in case the problem reappears.
20090215 15:32:36< Mordante> Sirp do you see any problem in the way I used the formatter? ^
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20090215 15:36:16< alink> Hi
20090215 15:39:34< alink> Mordante : sorry didn't checked before to revert the change in cursor.cpp, it was exactly the same symptoms as the last time
20090215 15:39:47< Mordante> hi alink :-)
20090215 15:39:49< alink> but now i did it and it fix the SDL bug
20090215 15:39:56< alink> Hello Mordante :)
20090215 15:40:01< Mordante> nice
20090215 15:40:07< alink> talking about http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/src/cursor.cpp?rev=28663&view=diff&r1=28663&r2=28662&p1=trunk/src/cursor.cpp&p2=/trunk/src/cursor.cpp
20090215 15:40:24< Mordante> not sure whether the fix breaks msvc, but maybe ilor can test it as well
20090215 15:40:59< alink> well it's a simple call to a sdl function, i doubt that it causes a problem
20090215 15:40:59< Mordante> alink yes I looked at the same change this morning ;-)
20090215 15:41:25< Mordante> well the change was added to make msvc compile wesnoth
20090215 15:41:34< Mordante> and I don't have msvc here
20090215 15:41:41< alink> in fact you just pass a different parameter value, the compiler is not supposed to see it
20090215 15:43:45< alink> ah ok maybe it fixes a cursor bug only visible when compiling with msvc
20090215 15:43:50< Mordante> it did cause some problem, but ilor uses msvc so he might want to test whether the change really breaks the compilation
20090215 15:44:26< ilor> I'll do an update and check
20090215 15:44:41< alink> ilor wait, i must commit it
20090215 15:44:46< Mordante> thanks ilor 
20090215 15:45:05< Mordante> btw boucman and I seem to have found a better way to fix the drawing glitches with the layering system :-)
20090215 15:45:16< ilor> I have to grab a load of pot updates so it'll take a while
20090215 15:45:17< alink> ilor: or you can try to revert the  previous link pasted and test it localy
20090215 15:45:26< Mordante> and all _should_ work nicely now
20090215 15:46:57< alink> ilor: yes me too :/
20090215 15:47:31< alink> ilor: btw impressive all the progress with the editor, I like the "window" feature
20090215 15:48:03< ilor> alink: I like it too ;) it needs some polish that'll have to wait for the end of stringfreeze
20090215 15:48:05< alink> + other feature not tested yet
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20090215 15:48:37< ilor> e.g. a close current window button, a window list dialog for when there are too many etc
20090215 15:49:38< zookeeper> Soliton, hmm, yeah, i'll look into it...
20090215 15:49:51< zookeeper> i tested it quite many times myself and didn't get any crashes
20090215 15:51:53< grzywacz> oh, alink's back :)
20090215 15:52:16< alink> grzywacz: yes, after a looooong time :/
20090215 15:53:03< alink> i am a bit lost, so we use hexes now ;)
20090215 15:55:08< alink> and still not yet familiar with these new svn menu options 
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20090215 15:59:04< ilor> I'm getting compile errors related to display::draw_order
20090215 16:00:07< ilor> Error	70	error C3848: expression having type 'const display::draw_order' would lose some const-volatile qualifiers in order to call 'bool display::draw_order::operator ()(const map_location &,const map_location &)'	C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\xtree	1268
20090215 16:00:57< alink> works here (gcc 4.3)
20090215 16:01:38< ilor> seems like MSVC wants the comparator object's operator() to be const, marked it as such and testing
20090215 16:05:16< CIA-70> ilor * r32821 /trunk/src/display.hpp: fix a compilation error on MSVC caused by a missing const specifier on a member function
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20090215 16:14:39< Mordante> I'm so happy that modification is display.hpp :-/
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20090215 16:27:17< ilor> anyway, got to go now, I won't be able to test whatever it is you wanted me to test today
20090215 16:27:21< ilor> see you tomorrow
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20090215 16:31:16< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32822 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/de.po wesnoth-httt/de.po wesnoth-lib/de.po): updated German translation
20090215 16:39:12< crimson_penguin> oh yeah, what's the release status?
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20090215 16:42:47< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: the status is "waiting for Mordante fixing gui crashes"
20090215 16:42:53< Ivanovic> ;)
20090215 16:43:10< Mordante> status is mordante found the problem and is looking for a fix
20090215 16:43:19< boucman> hey all
20090215 16:43:23< Mordante> hi boucman 
20090215 16:44:04< crimson_penguin> fun
20090215 16:44:04 * loonycyborg wishes good luck to Mordante
20090215 16:44:09< boucman> Mordante: the patch seems good
20090215 16:45:22< Mordante> loonycyborg well the fix seems easy, but testing will take a while
20090215 16:45:24< Mordante> boucman ?
20090215 16:45:43< boucman> hmm
20090215 16:46:04< boucman> maybe you wern't the one asking for https://gna.org/patch/?1123
20090215 16:46:33< Mordante> zookeeper was and I said it looked rather trivial
20090215 16:47:05< boucman> it is, and that's what it should be
20090215 16:51:24< Ivanovic> boucman: so bug 12945 si fixed? https://gna.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=12945
20090215 16:52:06< Ivanovic> with other words: all reported animation bugs should be fixed in the next release?
20090215 16:53:03< boucman> afaik, yes
20090215 16:53:30< boucman> but some might not have been sent to me, so you can just forward, and I'll mark the dupes, if you're not sure
20090215 16:54:02< Ivanovic> ESR_: around?
20090215 16:54:10< Ivanovic> there are some thot bug reports in the traker
20090215 16:54:14< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/bugs/?13001
20090215 16:54:17< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/bugs/?13000
20090215 16:54:20< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/bugs/?12999
20090215 16:55:25< Ivanovic> AI0867: does yogihh know about the "Segfault when loading a replay" report?
20090215 16:56:01< Ivanovic> zookeeper: will you have a look at this report? https://gna.org/bugs/?12996
20090215 16:56:33< zookeeper> Ivanovic, yeah
20090215 16:57:16< Ivanovic> zookeeper: so there is really nothing wrong about https://gna.org/bugs/?12991 ?
20090215 16:57:29< Ivanovic> is there a way to "deactivate" this warning, if it is not a bug but "normal"?
20090215 16:57:57< AI0867> Ivanovic: not yet, as I haven't seen him today
20090215 16:58:08< Ivanovic> AI0867: i assigned it to him, just to be sure
20090215 16:58:32< Ivanovic> does anyone have an idea what to do about this report? https://gna.org/bugs/?12992
20090215 16:59:15< Ivanovic> zookeeper: will you handle this one? https://gna.org/bugs/?12994
20090215 16:59:18< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i'm suggesting deactivating the player-visible warnings for the release
20090215 16:59:28 * boucman is doing 1123
20090215 16:59:41< zookeeper> Ivanovic, no, that's for fabi and co
20090215 16:59:50< Ivanovic> zookeeper: okay
20090215 16:59:54< Ivanovic> fabi__: https://gna.org/bugs/?12994
20090215 17:00:49< Ivanovic> boucman: there is an animation bug: https://gna.org/bugs/?12987
20090215 17:12:04< Soliton> someone doesn't like the bug count.
20090215 17:12:33< Ivanovic> jupp
20090215 17:13:18< Mordante> well some people had a bug commit frenzy today
20090215 17:13:21 * Ivanovic would like to see the counter at <50 when 1.6 gets out
20090215 17:13:41< Ivanovic> Mordante: better than having the bugs but noone reporting them
20090215 17:13:54< Mordante> I agree
20090215 17:17:56< boucman> Dragonking: you plan to participate in GSoC as student this year don't you ?
20090215 17:19:37< Mordante> how bad is the click assert problem, blocker or not?
20090215 17:19:51< Ivanovic> Mordante: report?
20090215 17:19:56< Ivanovic> that is: how to reproduce it?
20090215 17:20:30< Ivanovic> the "option text too long->crash" bug is clearly a blocker
20090215 17:20:54< Mordante> I know, I'm working on that one
20090215 17:21:09< Ivanovic> but what is the click assert problem?
20090215 17:21:10< Mordante> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12927 the assert bug seems to happen when you click a lot
20090215 17:21:30< Mordante> needed to find the report and too many mordante reports ;-)
20090215 17:21:57< Ivanovic> hmm, it is clearly a a blocker for 1.6
20090215 17:22:06< Ivanovic> but i'd say not for 1.5.10
20090215 17:22:23< Mordante> yeah I have a lot of 1.6 blockers on my list
20090215 17:22:36< zookeeper> 1.5.10 planned for sometime next week, right?
20090215 17:22:38< Mordante> zookeeper did you have any change to look at the mountains?
20090215 17:22:47< zookeeper> Mordante, no, not yet
20090215 17:22:50< Mordante> this weekend 
20090215 17:23:03< Ivanovic> zookeeper: planned for "once Mordante fixes the "option text too long->crash" bug"
20090215 17:23:08< zookeeper> huh, today?
20090215 17:23:17< Mordante> yes
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20090215 17:24:02< zookeeper> right
20090215 17:24:27< Ivanovic> hi Sirp
20090215 17:24:46< zookeeper> i have these forest things pretty sorted out now, all they lack are some graphical tweaks, so i guess i should commit those soon then
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20090215 17:28:12< ESR_> Ivanovic: You rang?
20090215 17:28:18< Ivanovic> ESR_: jupp
20090215 17:28:25< Ivanovic> three thot bug reports from today
20090215 17:28:28< Ivanovic> assigned them to you
20090215 17:28:48< Ivanovic> plus a low report that is either for you or for fabi__, not sure
20090215 17:28:54< ESR_> I'll look.  Thanks.
20090215 17:29:08< Ivanovic> the low report (since not assigned): https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12994
20090215 17:29:58< fabi__> Ivanovic: He is right with the name similarity to lord of the rings.
20090215 17:30:09< Ivanovic> that part is unimportant
20090215 17:30:15< Ivanovic> since it is only similar, not the same
20090215 17:31:21< fabi__> Okay
20090215 17:31:34< Ivanovic> ESR_: and en_GB is not complete: http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/index.lang.php?lang=en_GB&version=trunk
20090215 17:31:52< Ivanovic> that is: you will have to have a look at the Lich strings in this campaign anyway...
20090215 17:32:09< Ivanovic> (the two fuzzy strings from httt)
20090215 17:36:21< CIA-70> wintermute * r32823 /trunk/ (changelog data/multiplayer/factions/undead-default.cfg): Removed Necrophage from MP Leader List
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20090215 17:38:40< Baufo> happygrue, great commit :)
20090215 17:39:01< happygrue> hehe
20090215 17:39:11< happygrue> it was hard work, but someone had to do it ;)
20090215 17:39:16< Ivanovic> :)
20090215 17:40:26< Ivanovic> what is the general progress of the fire dragon redo?
20090215 17:40:27< Ivanovic> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17072&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
20090215 17:40:37< Ivanovic> i would love to see the "final" version in 1.6...
20090215 17:41:17 * Mordante too
20090215 17:41:28 * boucman too
20090215 17:41:48< boucman> but with the quantity of animations needed, I'm not sure it will happen
20090215 17:42:02< boucman> Ivanovic: you should put a reply with a "due date" to motivate hime
20090215 17:42:36< boucman> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/SoC_Information_for_Google#Did_your_organization_participate_in_past_GSoCs.3F_If_so.2C_please_summarize_your_involvement_and_the_successes_and_challenges_of_your_participation.
20090215 17:42:39< boucman> please reread
20090215 17:43:33< Ivanovic> boucman: instead of 2.1 million downloads: more than 3 millions downloads
20090215 17:43:40< Ivanovic> (yes, we just passed this number!)
20090215 17:43:45< happygrue> yay!
20090215 17:44:02< zookeeper> oh, and i have some map updates from doc still uncommitted, too
20090215 17:44:10< zookeeper> but i presume i still have a few hours
20090215 17:44:30< Ivanovic> zookeeper: ask Mordante how much time you got left
20090215 17:44:32< Ivanovic> ;)
20090215 17:44:48< CIA-70> ai0867 * r32824 /trunk/data/core/about.cfg: Add myself as the maintainer of the dutch translation.
20090215 17:44:59< Ivanovic> boucman: maybe we should mention that we got *many* well supported translations
20090215 17:45:11< boucman> I believe we are the biggest consumer of bandwith at sourceforge ;)
20090215 17:45:20< Ivanovic> since hey, SoC is somehow international, too
20090215 17:45:35< boucman> Ivanovic: feel free to edit, I'll do a bug fix for the next half hour
20090215 17:45:41< Ivanovic> okay
20090215 17:48:37< Ivanovic> boucman: have you already updated the "questions template for students"?
20090215 17:49:09< boucman> no, not yet
20090215 17:49:24< boucman> please order the questions so the easiest and most important are first
20090215 17:51:45< CIA-70> mordante * r32825 /trunk/src/log.cpp: 
20090215 17:51:45< CIA-70> Add curly braces to begin and end tag.
20090215 17:51:45< CIA-70> This way it's easier to navigate from begin and end with vim (and
20090215 17:51:45< CIA-70> probably with some other text editors as well).
20090215 17:51:48< Mordante> Ivanovic minutes
20090215 17:51:53< CIA-70> mordante * r32826 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog src/gui/widgets/grid.cpp): (log message trimmed)
20090215 17:51:53< CIA-70> Fixed the assertion failure with long options.
20090215 17:51:53< CIA-70> This fixes bug #12970.
20090215 17:51:53< CIA-70> I also found a new development plan
20090215 17:51:55< CIA-70> - commit silly bugs that cause assertion failures.
20090215 17:51:57< CIA-70> - get bribed with cookies to fix it.
20090215 17:51:59< CIA-70> - ...
20090215 17:52:48< Mordante> still needs some testing but I think this should fix the issue properly
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20090215 17:55:25< zookeeper> btw, i wouldn't mind if the recruitment_pattern warnings got silenced for this release already..
20090215 17:55:48< Mordante> I'm afk to eat something, would be nice if my last commit can get some more testing
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20090215 17:59:54< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32827 /trunk/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Map updates from Doc Paterson.
20090215 18:02:46< CIA-70> fendrin * r32828 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/07_Elves_last_stand.cfg: LoW 07: Removed the early finish bonus from the scenario.
20090215 18:03:13< zookeeper> ok, this should be the definitive forest fixage all the way to 1.6...
20090215 18:03:39< CIA-70> soliton * r32829 /trunk/src/ai.cpp: Uncommented a WML warning until the recruitment limiting macro can be fixed to not trigger it.
20090215 18:04:03< zookeeper> thanks
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20090215 18:10:06< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32830 /trunk/data/core/ (21 files in 3 dirs): Reworked the winter and hill forests to properly include all the necessary variant terrains.
20090215 18:10:12< CIA-70> fendrin * r32831 /trunk/data/core/macros/ai_controller.cfg: Extended the ai_location stub with a label for the location.
20090215 18:17:13< CIA-70> boucman * r32832 /trunk/src/ (game_display.cpp unit_animation.cpp): start a new frame before invalidating villages, this prevents some fix flags in some weird cases, bug 12987
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20090215 18:20:09< fabi__> ESR_: about bug 12994. Can't see a solution that wouldn't break the string frezze.
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20090215 18:23:14< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32833 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated changelogs.
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20090215 18:23:20< ESR_> fabi: Right.  You could ask Ivanovic for an exception.
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20090215 18:31:13< silene> hi
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20090215 18:35:02< Ivanovic> fabi__: a solution would be to only display the dialog when it makes sense
20090215 18:35:12< Ivanovic> not showing a dialog in those cases where it makes no sense
20090215 18:36:09< Ivanovic> hi silene
20090215 18:36:18< Mordante> hi silene 
20090215 18:42:06< CIA-70> mordante * r32834 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: Added the dialog status to the release notes.
20090215 18:43:28< fabi__> Ivanovic: That dialog is story relevant.
20090215 18:44:53< Ivanovic> fabi__: ugh
20090215 18:45:36< zookeeper> fabi__, have you used the deciduous winter forests in LoW yet?
20090215 18:47:25< zookeeper> (or anywhere else)
20090215 18:48:22< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32835 /trunk/data/multiplayer/maps/ (3p_Island_of_the_Horatii.map 4p_Castle_Hopping_Isle.map): Converted occurrences of Aa^Fdw to Aa^Fda.
20090215 18:49:34< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: re the fire dragon
20090215 18:49:48< thespaceinvader> i can't say for certain, not being eternal and everything...
20090215 18:50:26< thespaceinvader> but i'd be very surprised if that version were ready for 1.6 - he's been working on it for many months, and the base frame's not done yet, let alone animations, which for a unit that size are a major task
20090215 18:50:58< thespaceinvader> pixelmind's version http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23777 might be ready at some point reasonably soon
20090215 18:51:46< zookeeper> fabi__, nevermind, it looks like you haven't, which is good since then there's not any even potential problems..
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20090215 18:58:07< zookeeper> (note: i don't have anything further to commit)
20090215 18:59:25< Ivanovic> okay, updated the frontpage with a news about "we will try to participate in SoC 2009"
20090215 19:00:46< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: you text link to the GSoC faq goes to the wesnoth home page
20090215 19:00:53< thespaceinvader> the image links to the appropriate location
20090215 19:01:18< Dragonking> boucman: Yes, as a student
20090215 19:01:26< boucman> ok, thx
20090215 19:01:34< Ivanovic> better?
20090215 19:06:33< Mordante> Ivanovic maybe already invite students to irc
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20090215 19:07:28< boucman> Mordante: a bit early, let Google publish a planning first
20090215 19:08:14< Mordante> imo not if a student reads it it would be nice to know where to go if s/he wants to work on Wesnoth
20090215 19:08:44< boucman> well, all we wrote last year is still there
20090215 19:08:55< Mordante> in gsoc students are already advised to contact mentoring organizations already
20090215 19:09:12< boucman> oh, ok then
20090215 19:09:16< Mordante> which a new student doesn't find directly
20090215 19:09:33< Mordante> and we already had some students here as well
20090215 19:10:06< boucman> we should update the page about GSoC ideas pretty fast, then
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20090215 19:10:27< boucman> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeIdeas
20090215 19:10:49< Mordante> yes I want to think about it this week
20090215 19:12:16< boucman> Dragonking: once you've done the poison thing, i will add an "about to level" formula to the EasyCoding page
20090215 19:12:24< boucman> if you have other ideas, tell m
20090215 19:12:26< boucman> me
20090215 19:13:05< Dragonking> boucman: Yes, I need to finish this poison thing first
20090215 19:13:28< boucman> Dragonking: what exactly was the bug(s) you found ?
20090215 19:13:28< Dragonking> No clue what king of problems I may still encounter with barbarianhero's implementation
20090215 19:13:47< Dragonking> ANy error in formula made wesnoth crash
20090215 19:14:01< Dragonking> If formula didn't return number in eval, wesnoth crashed too
20090215 19:14:02< boucman> ouch
20090215 19:14:42< Dragonking> Plus he used movement maps but did not update these at all
20090215 19:15:11< boucman> ouch again :(
20090215 19:15:12< Dragonking> So generally speaking no candidate move of "attack" tyle worked correctly
20090215 19:15:27< Dragonking> Figuring all of these took me some time yesterday...
20090215 19:15:30< boucman> do you think we can robustify it enough ?
20090215 19:16:39< Dragonking> boucman: Well, it *should* work now
20090215 19:16:46< Dragonking> Unless I missed something else
20090215 19:16:50< boucman> famous last words :P
20090215 19:16:59< Ivanovic> :)
20090215 19:17:02< Dragonking> I need to finish poison and test it
20090215 19:17:13< Dragonking> Because current code lacked testing before commiting apparently
20090215 19:17:34< Dragonking> I need to write some thing that should not work and make sure wesnoth handles these properly
20090215 19:17:45< Dragonking> Cause now it was complete disaster
20090215 19:23:05< boucman> Dragonking: a good idea would be a "float text" function to have a floating text at agiven location
20090215 19:23:28< boucman> typically printing the name of the evaluated move on the affected unit so we can see what is choosen and when
20090215 19:23:42< Dragonking> boucman: Good idea
20090215 19:23:58< boucman> will be usefull when we start a "scale" of values
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20090215 19:34:45< [Relic]> Hello :)
20090215 19:35:51< Mordante> hi [Relic] 
20090215 19:36:00< [Relic]> :)
20090215 19:58:24< CIA-70> mordante * r32836 /trunk/ (changelog src/game_events.cpp): 
20090215 19:58:24< CIA-70> Escape no longer disables messages permanently.
20090215 19:58:24< CIA-70> Fixes bug #12959. Sapient the bug was old and since you're quite
20090215 19:58:24< CIA-70> familiar with the event code please review this patch.
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20090215 20:02:29< zookeeper> am i imagining things or is the font in the new dialogs not anti-aliased as it should atm?
20090215 20:03:52< loonycyborg> zookeeper: Post a screenshot perhaps?
20090215 20:04:11< loonycyborg> IIRC it looked fine for me on native windows.
20090215 20:04:30< loonycyborg> Rendering was weird under wine though.
20090215 20:12:25< zookeeper> well, http://imagebin.org/38475
20090215 20:14:05< loonycyborg> Dunno. What I saw under wine was much worse..
20090215 20:15:50< zookeeper> doesn't look like it was any different in for instance 1.5.8 either, though.
20090215 20:18:31< loonycyborg> http://imagebin.org/38476
20090215 20:18:40< loonycyborg> I'm getting that under linux.
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20090215 20:20:03< Shadow_Master> zookeeper: sources.
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20090215 20:42:32< Ivanovic> AI0867, alink__, Baufo, boucman, Dragonking, ESR_, fabi__, grzywacz, happygrue, Mordante, Noyga, Shadow_Master, silene, Sirp_, Soliton, thespaceinvader, zookeeper: ready for 1.5.10?
20090215 20:42:36< Ivanovic> any open blockers?
20090215 20:42:46< Dragonking> formula AI sucks
20090215 20:42:46< boucman> gogogogogo
20090215 20:42:58< Dragonking> But it sucks less than in 1.5.9
20090215 20:42:58< Ivanovic> you think i can release "soon" (soon as in "in about 60mins")
20090215 20:42:59< Dragonking> ;)
20090215 20:43:02< boucman> Dragonking: that's not a blocker for a point release :P
20090215 20:43:10< Dragonking> boucman: True. ;)
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20090215 20:43:33< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: nothing in the pipeline here, unless kitty comes on to approve LordBob's llatest portraits before you're ready to release
20090215 20:43:35< boucman> Dragonking: you've got 60' to fix it ):-D
20090215 20:43:47< thespaceinvader> if not, no great shakes
20090215 20:43:52< Dragonking> boucman: No chance atm :)
20090215 20:44:00< Dragonking> Ivanovic: You can go with it ;)
20090215 20:44:24< Ivanovic> :)
20090215 20:44:25< silene> Ivanovic: fine with me, i haven't noticed anything worth a delay
20090215 20:44:52< fabi__> Ivanovic: yes
20090215 20:45:05< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: if Mordante fixed the problem with that long-option-texts assertion, it's okay.
20090215 20:45:23< Shadow_Master> (haven't finished reading the logs)
20090215 20:46:04< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: it *should* be fixed
20090215 20:46:12< Ivanovic> feel free to check if the fix works for you
20090215 20:46:36< Shadow_Master> give me 8 mins
20090215 20:47:37< Shadow_Master> that's a pretty big amount of changes for less than a complete day _o/
20090215 20:48:06< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32837 /trunk/po/ (144 files in 3 dirs): pot-update (hopefully preparing for 1.5.10...)
20090215 20:48:10< Ivanovic> Soliton: for the version string, are you fine with -1.6beta2 attached at the end?
20090215 20:48:38< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: uhhh
20090215 20:48:57< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: so it will end up being what? "1.5.10-1.6beta2" ?
20090215 20:49:03< Ivanovic> jupp
20090215 20:49:15< Shadow_Master> please test it extensively after applying that change
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20090215 20:49:28< Shadow_Master> and what will it be after being released? hopefully not "1.5.10-1.6beta2+svn"?
20090215 20:49:33< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: uhm, *what* should i test?
20090215 20:49:41< Ivanovic> no, after the release it will be just 1.5.10+svn
20090215 20:49:45< Shadow_Master> test that the game doesn't throw an early exception
20090215 20:49:57< Ivanovic> and the -1.6beta2 suffix is *only* at the VERSION define
20090215 20:49:57< grzywacz> Ivanovic, nothing from me
20090215 20:50:14< Shadow_Master> e.g. that it doesn't abort with version_info::not_sane_exception
20090215 20:50:22< Ivanovic> no, it does not
20090215 20:50:44< Shadow_Master> um, okay.
20090215 20:50:46< Ivanovic> i already checked this when switching over to "ingame version only defined in src/wesconfig.h
20090215 20:51:06 * Shadow_Master needs some time to fix the spanish translation too ;)
20090215 20:51:26< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Be sure to check version displayed in lower left corner on the main menu screen.
20090215 20:51:57< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: like i said, this is what i already tested with the switch to "where version info is entered"
20090215 20:52:00< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: actually, can you wait another 60 minutes?
20090215 20:52:26< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: get your stuff in asap
20090215 20:52:36< Ivanovic> 60mins is the max i will wait
20090215 20:52:44< Shadow_Master> I need to write a test case as well.
20090215 20:53:03< alink__> Ivanovic: no idea about the release, i didn't play a game since quite some time :/
20090215 20:53:16< Ivanovic> alink__: you should get back to playing, too
20090215 20:53:18< Ivanovic> ;)
20090215 20:53:21< alink__> and the 2 bugs that i recently reported are minor 
20090215 20:53:22< Shadow_Master> alink__: read my email btw?
20090215 20:54:04< alink__> and i am too much out of the loop to commit my proposed fixes just now (before a release)
20090215 20:54:15< alink__> Shadow_Master: no, reading now
20090215 20:55:00< alink__> ah i see that boucman fixed the flag bug, so that's done
20090215 20:55:38< Soliton> Ivanovic: yeah, that should be fine.
20090215 20:56:53< alink__> Shadow_Master: will test your file and see if i spot something
20090215 20:58:55< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32838 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): bump version to 1.5.10 for the upcoming release (still about 60mins left...)
20090215 20:59:58< happygrue> Ivanovic: yes, ready
20090215 21:00:50 * Shadow_Master burns his laptop with 5 compiler processes
20090215 21:02:54< Shadow_Master> aargh, effectively.
20090215 21:03:07< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32839 /trunk/src/tests/test_version.cpp: 
20090215 21:03:07< CIA-70> Add a test case for Ivanovic's rather interesting version scheme for
20090215 21:03:07< CIA-70> 1.5.10.
20090215 21:03:12< Shadow_Master> src/tests/test_version.cpp(76): error in "test_version_info": check somewhat_complex.major_version() == 1 && somewhat_complex.minor_version() == 5 && somewhat_complex.revision_level() == 10 && somewhat_complex.special_version() == "1.6beta2" && somewhat_complex.special_version_separator() == '-' failed
20090215 21:03:24< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32840 /trunk/data/core/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Added two sparse variants for the mixed forests.
20090215 21:03:32< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: you see, I have a new bug in 32839
20090215 21:03:54< Shadow_Master> at the least it is causing undefined behavior.
20090215 21:05:16< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: huh?
20090215 21:05:36< Ivanovic> so you mean our version filter stuff is bogus?
20090215 21:05:38< Shadow_Master> yep.
20090215 21:05:51< Shadow_Master> I can fix it, but I'm not sure if I make it to the 60 min barrier
20090215 21:09:16< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32841 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/es.po wesnoth-lib/es.po): Spanish translation update.
20090215 21:09:18< boucman> Shadow_Master: is it blocking ? what is it used for ?
20090215 21:09:29< Shadow_Master> comparison of saved game versions
20090215 21:09:48< boucman> ouch
20090215 21:10:09< boucman> Shadow_Master: we should compare the svn rev instead of tag name, if we could 
20090215 21:10:18< boucman> that would be much safer, and could even work on trunk
20090215 21:10:29< boucman> (of course that's too late for that right away
20090215 21:11:01< Ivanovic> boucman: that is not possible since in the release there is no revision information
20090215 21:11:15< Shadow_Master> this is what the game sees: "1.5.10.6.beta2"
20090215 21:11:18< boucman> Ivanovic: we could write it down and/or extract it
20090215 21:11:43< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: so basically the version string handling has a problem with the '-', right?
20090215 21:12:09< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: no, it is about the extra dots after the real version (1.5.10)
20090215 21:13:13< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: what about "just" making everything behind a '+' or '-' be filtered out and added as "complete string"
20090215 21:13:28< Shadow_Master> yep
20090215 21:13:56< Shadow_Master> but instead of '+' or '-' it'll be "first not of [0-9\.]"
20090215 21:14:07< Ivanovic> :)
20090215 21:17:21< zookeeper> could someone test this? http://gna.org/bugs/?12990 i can't get it to crash for me, even when using his save.
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20090215 21:21:05< dfranke> zookeeper: are you on x86 or amd64?
20090215 21:21:42< Shadow_Master> probably x86 :)
20090215 21:22:06< Shadow_Master> (OS architecture)
20090215 21:22:06< dfranke> I got the crash on an amd64 system.
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20090215 21:22:59< dfranke> so bigger pointers = smashing a bigger piece of the heap, maybe.
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20090215 21:26:11< zookeeper> dfranke, x86 indeed
20090215 21:26:32< zookeeper> sounds like a job for sapient
20090215 21:27:05< cjhopman> i can try to reproduce it
20090215 21:27:09< zookeeper> but i'd appreciate if someone else could confirm that it really tends to crash, so i'd know whether i should comment those things out for the release
20090215 21:28:43< Shadow_Master> how do we check whether a character is alphanumerical or not?
20090215 21:28:51< happygrue> zookeeper: I'm loading it now
20090215 21:28:51< Shadow_Master> cookie for the one who knows
20090215 21:29:12< dfranke> isalnum() ?
20090215 21:29:20< zookeeper> Shadow_Master, i'm competent enough to tell when i see one, i don't need a check :|
20090215 21:29:39< Shadow_Master> it couldn't be something not pure C?
20090215 21:29:43< happygrue> what about the letter 2?
20090215 21:29:59< Shadow_Master> uh, oh.
20090215 21:30:01< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: Use boost::spirit to parse the version string :P
20090215 21:30:06< Shadow_Master> no time
20090215 21:31:02< happygrue> zookeeper: crash to desktop for me as well
20090215 21:31:09< Shadow_Master> you know, I'm writing a workaround but it'd been better if it was tested for weeks.
20090215 21:31:24< zookeeper> happygrue, oh, dang. well, i'll just comment out the macro calls for now then...
20090215 21:31:26< Shadow_Master> (the version_info issue; removing the old code as Mordante told me was not a good idea after all)
20090215 21:31:28< cjhopman> crash for me
20090215 21:31:36 * happygrue nods
20090215 21:32:54< Shadow_Master> I'm having trouble to workaround it in a way that doesn't interfer with add-on version checking.
20090215 21:33:06< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: can't you get rid of the -1.6beta2 dot?
20090215 21:33:30< Ivanovic> hmm, i can transform the . into a -
20090215 21:33:37< Ivanovic> or a _
20090215 21:33:44< Ivanovic> would those not cause a problem?
20090215 21:33:48< Shadow_Master> no.
20090215 21:34:01< loonycyborg> loonybot << bool(std::isalnum('a'))
20090215 21:34:02< loonybot> true
20090215 21:34:06< loonycyborg> loonybot << bool(std::isalnum('_'))
20090215 21:34:07< loonybot> false
20090215 21:34:22< Shadow_Master> I'll rewrite the algorithm once beta2 is released.
20090215 21:35:26< dfranke> loonycyborg: err, does that thing evaluate arbitrary C++?!
20090215 21:35:27< Shadow_Master> you could also use a comma
20090215 21:35:35< loonycyborg> dfranke: Yes.
20090215 21:35:59< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32842 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Commented out all the FORCE_CHANCE_TO_HIT calls since apparently the WML crashes on some systems.
20090215 21:36:00< dfranke> loonycyborg: how are you securing it?
20090215 21:36:27< loonycyborg> chroot jail + syscall filtering using ptrace.
20090215 21:36:39< dfranke> ah, neat.
20090215 21:36:49< Shadow_Master> dfranke: http://www.xs4all.nl/~weegen/eelis/geordi/
20090215 21:36:52< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32843 /trunk/src/wesconfig.h: change version number to 1.5.10-1_6beta2 since our version algorithm has a problem with a '.' in the suffix part
20090215 21:37:44< dfranke> loonycyborg: and do you know that 'loonybot' is the name of an adware trojan? :-)
20090215 21:37:47< Ivanovic> dfranke, cjhopman: please add in the report that it seems to be 64bit specific
20090215 21:37:57< loonycyborg> dfranke: No. :)
20090215 21:38:04< Shadow_Master> I can test once I finish testing my and Mordante's stuff
20090215 21:38:33< dfranke> cjhopman: I'll do it.
20090215 21:39:30< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r32844 /trunk/src/tests/test_version.cpp: Disable r32839 test case for the 1.5.10 release.
20090215 21:40:15< Ivanovic> uhm, anyone really understanding this report? https://gna.org/bugs/?13003
20090215 21:41:01< Ivanovic> ESR_: any idea when you will have a look at the thot reports?
20090215 21:41:25< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: thanks
20090215 21:42:12< Shadow_Master> yes, Mordante's fix works for me (although it looks ugly like hell
20090215 21:43:14< Shadow_Master> the old dialogs would apply text wrapping instead of this: http://imagebin.org/38485
20090215 21:44:54< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: ping Mordante about this
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20090215 21:45:11< Ivanovic> at least it is better than a crash
20090215 21:45:11< Shadow_Master> I already pinged him enough I think
20090215 21:45:22< Ivanovic> ahh, you can't ping Mordante enough
20090215 21:45:27< Ivanovic> he really needs to be pinged
20090215 21:45:32< Shadow_Master> true enough. Mordante Mordante ;)
20090215 21:45:53< Shadow_Master> testing bug 12990
20090215 21:46:00 * Mordante hides
20090215 21:46:11< Mordante> reading the log
20090215 21:47:39< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: no segfault for me (bug 12990, 1.5.10-1.6beta2 at r32841)
20090215 21:47:47< Shadow_Master> using amd64.
20090215 21:47:53< Shadow_Master> dfranke: ^
20090215 21:48:13< alink__> Shadow_Master asked "Is there anything else I should do in game_events.cpp' modify_side handler when allegiances are modified?"  Yes adding code to read the share_view and share_maps that i use in my wml ;-)
20090215 21:48:13< Ivanovic> dfranke: so a little more info is needed, like compiler used and settings used
20090215 21:48:23< Mordante> Shadow_Master regarding version_info I said not to duplicate the effort, not which version to keep :-P
20090215 21:48:45< Shadow_Master> alink__: uh?
20090215 21:49:02< loonycyborg> I can't repro that crash too. 32bit system though.
20090215 21:49:04< Shadow_Master> Mordante: I needed to keep mine since it provided the functionality I required for addon version checking
20090215 21:49:24< alink__> Shadow_Master: [modify_side] doesn't read these keys, it's why your WML doesn't work
20090215 21:49:30< Shadow_Master> alink__: ohhhh
20090215 21:49:33< Shadow_Master> ahhhh.
20090215 21:49:43< Shadow_Master> that can be quickly fixed I think.
20090215 21:50:19< Mordante> Shadow_Master well then you should make your version bug free :-P
20090215 21:50:41< Mordante> are you sure the old dialogs wrapped? IIRC it truncated long options
20090215 21:50:41< alink__> Shadow_Master: i assume, but  maybe also check the other key in [side] and document what work and where
20090215 21:50:46< Shadow_Master> It never crossed by my mind that someone would use extra dots.
20090215 21:51:14< Shadow_Master> Mordante: at least they probably had enough space for not wrapping
20090215 21:51:14< Mordante> parse 2 dots and all after is a text extra version ;-)
20090215 21:51:43< Mordante> I'm quite sure I had some options (in German) which were truncated
20090215 21:51:58< Shadow_Master> alink__: what is the other key?
20090215 21:51:59< Mordante> and IMO a scrollbar is much better as truncating
20090215 21:52:19< Mordante> truncating is evil 
20090215 21:52:29< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Why not you just add "RC2" or "Beta2"? I'd say including either "1.6" or "1_6" is too verbose..
20090215 21:52:30< Shadow_Master> Mordante: I suggest word wrapping for the future ;)
20090215 21:52:39< Mordante> I want to look at wrapping it's at my long todo list
20090215 21:52:41< Shadow_Master> loonycyborg: it's not an RC.
20090215 21:52:51< alink__> Shadow_Master: i mean one day check inconsitencies between the code of [side] and [modify_side] to avoid this kind of bug
20090215 21:53:00< Shadow_Master> ah, yeah.
20090215 21:53:07< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: So there will be real RCs? :)
20090215 21:53:16< Mordante> luckily ilor's not around to remind be to publish that list ;-) :-P
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20090215 21:54:21< alink__> Shadow_Master: about the fix, note that you will also need to clear the 3 caches, i see no function for that, but a possible ugly hack is to calling change_team with the same names
20090215 21:55:06< Shadow_Master> a better fix will be exposing more functions in the team class :-/
20090215 21:55:09< alink__> (in wml or in c++)
20090215 21:55:22< alink__> Shadow_Master: yes agreed
20090215 21:55:31< Shadow_Master> since this is also a rather tricky problem, I'll postpone the fix for after 1.5.10.
20090215 21:55:41< Shadow_Master> s/fix/final fix/
20090215 21:55:59< Mordante> Ivanovic I've nothing left for 1.5.10
20090215 21:57:02< alink__> Shadow_Master: ok it's easy to fix in WML anyway just set share_view in [side] and use team_name to make it work on not, will do the trick for most cases
20090215 21:57:27< Mordante> Ivanovic when do you plan to release?
20090215 21:57:27< Shadow_Master> alink__: I'll tell pmworther about it
20090215 21:57:42< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: the reason is simple: it makes the whole thing sound like "hey, this is a beta for 1.5.10"
20090215 21:58:00< alink__> Shadow_Master: pmworther = new dev? UMC ?
20090215 21:58:15< Shadow_Master> alink__: UMC.
20090215 21:58:20< alink__> ok
20090215 21:58:20< Shadow_Master> he reported bug 12875
20090215 21:58:26< Ivanovic> Mordante: in some mins
20090215 21:58:28< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: ready?
20090215 21:58:32< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: yes
20090215 21:58:33< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: k
20090215 21:58:42< Ivanovic> everybody: ready for 1.5.10 ?
20090215 21:59:36< Shadow_Master> um, this is a good moment to prepare the announcement of the wesnoth-umc-dev branching (trunk <-> 1.4)
20090215 21:59:43< Shadow_Master> * 1.6
20090215 21:59:47 * loonycyborg is ready
20090215 22:00:00 * boucman is in the starting blocks
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20090215 22:00:33 * alink__ is ready since several releases
20090215 22:01:02< Ivanovic> :)
20090215 22:01:11< Mordante> :-)
20090215 22:01:13< Ivanovic> okay, then i will (try to) release now
20090215 22:01:22< Mordante> zookeeper did you manage to look at the mountains?
20090215 22:01:36< zookeeper> Mordante, no :|
20090215 22:01:43< CIA-70> zookeeper * r32845 /trunk/data/core/units/monsters/Yeti.cfg: Improved yeti's attack animation.
20090215 22:01:58< Ivanovic> zookeeper: ready?
20090215 22:02:01< zookeeper> _but_ i just saw a 400hp berserker kill a yeti! that must count for something :)
20090215 22:02:04< zookeeper> Ivanovic, sure
20090215 22:02:10< Mordante> ok, then I'll leave a note in the release notes 
20090215 22:02:30< Mordante> which I don't care whether or not in the tarball ;-)
20090215 22:03:35< zookeeper> the damage calculations don't take into account higher than max hitpoints btw. if i :unit hitpoints=400 and then check damage calculations, it shows the odds of surviving etc as if the unit just had regular max hp.
20090215 22:03:47< zookeeper> not that i can imagine why that would really matter, but still..
20090215 22:04:24< dfranke> zookeeper: it could matter in some of the RPG-like campaigns on the campaign server.
20090215 22:04:55< dfranke> zookeeper: oh wait, you mean when you enter the debug command.
20090215 22:04:57< zookeeper> yep.
20090215 22:05:00< alink__> Shadow_Master: so note that the patch of pmaworther was correct and complete for what it wanted to fix 
20090215 22:05:05< CIA-70> mordante * r32846 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: Add some comment about the redrawing code (and it's glitches).
20090215 22:05:06< dfranke> zookeeper: yeah... hard to see that mattering.
20090215 22:05:19< Shadow_Master> alink__: okay
20090215 22:05:39< zookeeper> dfranke, although i suppose that in some scenario a unit could really get higher than max hp via some item or whatever.
20090215 22:05:44< Shadow_Master> wesbot: seen fabi
20090215 22:05:45< wesbot> Shadow_Master: The person with the nick fabi last spoke 2d 2h ago.  1d 21h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Remote closed the connection
20090215 22:06:07< dfranke> zookeeper: yeah, that's what I was originally talking about.
20090215 22:06:10< zookeeper> but then again it'd be a pretty hackish thing to do anyway
20090215 22:06:25< dfranke> zookeeper: some MP camapaigns let you "buy" hitpoints by the thousands.
20090215 22:06:45< zookeeper> dfranke, don't they usually raise your max hp too?
20090215 22:06:50< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: i think he was last online with the nick fabi__
20090215 22:06:54< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen fabi__
20090215 22:06:54< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick fabi__ last spoke 1h 22m ago.  1h 17m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
20090215 22:06:56< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen fabi_
20090215 22:06:59< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick fabi_ 15h 57m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)
20090215 22:07:10< Shadow_Master> okay, he owes me a thousand explanations.
20090215 22:07:18< dfranke> zookeeper: okay, does that fix the problem?
20090215 22:07:21< grzywacz> Ivanovic, when are you going to branch 1.6? For the first release or before that?
20090215 22:07:35< Ivanovic> grzywacz: i plan to do so together with the 1.6 release
20090215 22:07:40< grzywacz> k
20090215 22:07:45< Shadow_Master> zookeeper: did you disable the CTH override for EI scenario 3?
20090215 22:07:50< dfranke> as best I know, yes,, they do.
20090215 22:07:56< Shadow_Master> then no wonder I cannot reproduce dfranke's problem
20090215 22:08:25< dfranke> but I wrote off all those campaigns as silly a long time ago, so I may be remembering wrong.
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20090215 22:08:51< zookeeper> Shadow_Master, i did
20090215 22:08:59< loonycyborg> Hm.. When I tested the crash, the adept managed to survive sometimes..
20090215 22:09:16< Shadow_Master> grzywacz: I'm branching 1.6 in wesnoth-umc-dev earlier because later I won't ahve time to do that.
20090215 22:09:32< Shadow_Master> and apparently AI0867 will not, either.
20090215 22:09:40< zookeeper> dfranke, yes, i was just talking about a case where hitpoints > max_hitpoints.
20090215 22:10:01< grzywacz> Shadow_Master, that was only a semi-related question. :)
20090215 22:10:09< zookeeper> loonycyborg, well, i guess it would if you hit him with staff and crossbow only :P
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20090215 22:11:49< Mordante> Shadow_Master please test whether https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12867 is still around
20090215 22:12:16< loonycyborg> zookeeper: I was hitting him with sword and the magic attack.
20090215 22:13:06< loonycyborg> So CTH override it definitely disabled currently.
20090215 22:13:26< zookeeper> loonycyborg, well, i disabled it in r32842
20090215 22:13:54< Shadow_Master> Mordante:  nice. fixed.
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20090215 22:14:32< Mordante> nice :-)
20090215 22:14:37< dfranke> If nobody replies to this thread for a while, should I file it as a bug? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24091
20090215 22:14:46< Shadow_Master> let me test with my super anim though
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20090215 22:15:03< Mordante> too late marked as fixed now ;-P
20090215 22:15:08< loonycyborg> zookeeper: If you disabled it to fix those crashes then I wasted time when testing for them :P
20090215 22:15:19< Mordante> dfranke yes please forum post tend to get forgotten ;-)
20090215 22:15:25< Mordante> posts*
20090215 22:15:37< Shadow_Master> Mordante: since it's UMC I would file a separate bug report anyway :-)
20090215 22:15:47< Shadow_Master> (the anim)
20090215 22:15:48< zookeeper> loonycyborg, very possible ;)
20090215 22:15:54< dfranke> Mordante: well, I don't know yet that it's a bug.  Maybe I'm just not good enough at that scenario.
20090215 22:16:10< zookeeper> dfranke, i'm the DiD maintainer
20090215 22:16:26< Mordante> Shadow_Master how big is your super anim?
20090215 22:16:56< Shadow_Master> it's not big - it's just rather complex
20090215 22:17:01< zookeeper> i haven't properly tested it on hard yet, but i wouldn't be one bit surprised if that scenario was too tough on hard. are you aware that if you nail a guard in one turn (and the rest don't see you at the start of their next turn), you don't trigger the alarm?
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20090215 22:17:26< dfranke> zookeeper: ah, no, I didn't realize that.
20090215 22:17:46< Shadow_Master> Mordante: works fine
20090215 22:17:49< Mordante> the gryphon is also big and the new firedrake (which hopefully hit trunk before 1.6) as well 
20090215 22:17:57< dfranke> zookeeper: my strategy on that scenario has always been to just stay in the forests and fight off the whole army.
20090215 22:17:58< zookeeper> dfranke, yeah it's not really explained there at all.
20090215 22:18:01< Mordante> ah great :-)
20090215 22:18:07< Ivanovic> wow, the first map in LoW really looks different now
20090215 22:18:20< Shadow_Master> ehm, the LoW maps are ugly now :-/
20090215 22:18:28< zookeeper> dfranke, i've been wanting to rewrite that scenario partly, maybe to make it a bit more like hide and seek in liberty, but haven't really had the inclination for that yet..
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20090215 22:18:35< Shadow_Master> fabi kind of abused the mixed deciduous forest terrains
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20090215 22:18:46< zookeeper> Shadow_Master, example map?
20090215 22:19:02< Ivanovic> zookeeper: just start the first map
20090215 22:19:12< zookeeper> ok..
20090215 22:19:26< Shadow_Master> zookeeper: also scenario 3, Ka'lian (:cl)
20090215 22:19:58< Shadow_Master> it's no longer anything similar to the TRoW Ka'lian map, too.
20090215 22:20:37< zookeeper> uh oh, it hurts my eyes :)
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20090215 22:21:57< zookeeper> well, it'll look better as more variations or other tweaks are made.
20090215 22:22:59< Ivanovic> Soliton: at least the version filter has to be adjusted to allow 1.5.10-1_6beta2 on the official mp server
20090215 22:23:07< Ivanovic> atm it says "version 1.5.10 is required
20090215 22:23:09< Ivanovic> ;)
20090215 22:24:10< Soliton> what's with the 1_6?
20090215 22:24:34< Shadow_Master> version_info needs to be fixed to not treat the 1.6 as additional number components and I don't have time for that now.
20090215 22:24:48< Shadow_Master> (not without breaking addon version parsing)
20090215 22:25:50< Soliton> well, then i suggest either leaving that part off completely or sticking with it till 1.6.
20090215 22:25:54< Mordante> Ivanovic it would be nice to ask for some new screenshots in the release announcement with both the new terrains and dialogs
20090215 22:26:55< Ivanovic> Soliton: yeah, this will be the version string till 1.6
20090215 22:27:11< Soliton> alright.
20090215 22:27:24< Ivanovic> that is: all non 1.6 versions that ought to be compatible will have something-1_6something in their string
20090215 22:27:38< Shadow_Master> someone should make campaignd reject add-ons with empty or invalid version numbers btw ;-)
20090215 22:29:18< Ivanovic> okay, so far it looks like 1.5.10 is working, currently uploading the tarball to files.wesnoth.org
20090215 22:30:36< Soliton> Ivanovic: login should work now.
20090215 22:30:48< Ivanovic> Soliton: that is the releases will have this string in, the "normal" svn versions not
20090215 22:30:53< Ivanovic> fine with you?
20090215 22:31:09< Soliton> hmm?
20090215 22:31:10< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: ping me when you make the tag :)
20090215 22:31:14< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32847 /tags/1.5.10/: tagging 1.5.10, using r32845
20090215 22:31:34< Soliton> ok, i think i parsed it now.
20090215 22:31:34< boucman> Mordante: around ?
20090215 22:31:41< Mordante> boucman yes
20090215 22:31:47< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: ping
20090215 22:31:53< boucman> I seem to get beheaded unit on trunk
20090215 22:31:53< Soliton> sure, that's fine with me.
20090215 22:32:02< Soliton> svn version go on a different server.
20090215 22:32:04< Mordante> which unit?
20090215 22:32:06< boucman> but I'm a bit suprised it hadn't been noticed before, 
20090215 22:32:10< boucman> any unit on a keep
20090215 22:32:35< Mordante> testing
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20090215 22:33:19< Ivanovic> boucman: no problem here placing the troll hero on the castle konrad starts in in httt
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20090215 22:33:27< boucman> hmm
20090215 22:33:32< boucman> here is what I did
20090215 22:33:43< boucman> I stated a local MP game AI only on isar's cross
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20090215 22:34:54< Mordante> looks fine here as well in the test scenario
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20090215 22:34:59< boucman> hmm
20090215 22:35:03< boucman> well...
20090215 22:35:18< boucman> that's weird, I have no related change
20090215 22:35:34< Ivanovic> everything fine here
20090215 22:35:38< boucman> my svn is up to date
20090215 22:35:45< boucman> checking for compile...
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20090215 22:37:36< boucman> build was up to date
20090215 22:37:39< boucman> that's really weird
20090215 22:38:06< Shadow_Master> is it "permanent" beheading, or random as you higlight adjacent hexes with the mouse?
20090215 22:38:15< boucman> testing
20090215 22:38:25< alink> some skeleton archers playing too much with their heads ? ;p
20090215 22:38:41< alink> and all seems fine too here
20090215 22:38:49< boucman> it seems fixed now
20090215 22:38:53< boucman> I don't understand
20090215 22:38:57< boucman> oh well...
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20090215 22:42:25< alink> mmmh the speed setting seems not working here, all are fast
20090215 22:42:44< alink> all my unit's moves
20090215 22:42:52< boucman> alink: that would be suprising, we didn't touch that area
20090215 22:43:19< zookeeper> alink, shift key stuck down :p?
20090215 22:43:30< alink> yes and obvious, probably just me
20090215 22:43:48< alink> shift and setting does nothing
20090215 22:44:28< Ivanovic> and i still love the speed of our new server
20090215 22:44:37< Ivanovic> uploading to sf.net with 10MB/s is *nice*
20090215 22:45:08< Soliton> not much time to enjoy. :-P
20090215 22:45:31< Ivanovic> Soliton: better than the 30mins i need for uploading from my comp to wesnoth.org...
20090215 22:45:32< Ivanovic> ;)
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20090215 22:48:19< Mordante> I just watched an isar's and also saw no problems
20090215 22:48:41< Soliton> probably wrong/outdated data dir used.
20090215 22:49:01< alink> deleting my preferences seems to have at least partially fixed my speed issue
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20090215 22:52:29< alink> still seems to ignore my change of speed in prefrences 
20090215 22:52:55< alink> that's maybe just UI related
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20090215 22:53:38< alink> ah reload a game make it use my new setting
20090215 22:53:42< Mordante> I'm off night
20090215 22:54:00< Mordante> alink did you edit settings while wesnoth was running?
20090215 22:54:13< alink> yes
20090215 22:54:46< alink> i mean using the interface, not chaing the file
20090215 22:54:56< Mordante> that doesn't work and upon closing wesnoth the old settings are restored
20090215 22:54:56< alink> changing
20090215 22:54:59< CIA-70> ivanovic * r32848 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): post release version bump to 1.5.10+svn
20090215 22:55:16< Mordante> hmm that should have worked :-/
20090215 22:55:25< Ivanovic> ESR_: feel free to close bug reports
20090215 22:55:36< Ivanovic> and patches and whatever else was done and should be closed now
20090215 22:55:41< Mordante> Ivanovic did you see the screenshots message?
20090215 22:55:45< alink> ok seems a bit random, i try to isolate what trigger (or not)
20090215 22:56:45< Ivanovic> Mordante: ???
20090215 22:56:54< Ivanovic> you mean your line that i should ask for screenshots in the announcement?
20090215 22:56:56< Mordante> guess not ;-)
20090215 22:56:58< Mordante> yes
20090215 22:57:19< Ivanovic> it is probably better when i do the screenshots just as with most of the previous ones
20090215 22:57:42< Ivanovic> but i won't be doing so today...
20090215 22:57:44< Ivanovic> ;)
20090215 22:57:46< Mordante> also fine by me
20090215 22:57:52< Mordante> no problem
20090215 22:58:55< Mordante> just like to get some new ones up since the ones online are rather old
20090215 22:59:04< Mordante> and I love the new dialogs 
20090215 22:59:11< zookeeper> ahah, i'm so going to finish TRoW with mages only this time. finished fallen lich point with 276 bonus gold. \o/
20090215 22:59:11< Ivanovic> they are not only "rather old", they are *ancient*
20090215 22:59:40< zookeeper> errh, i could take some screenshots tomorrow
20090215 23:00:10< Ivanovic> zookeeper: please do so
20090215 23:00:24< Mordante> ancient ones look worse http://www.wesnoth.org/images/sshots/ancient-03.jpg ;-)
20090215 23:00:26< Mordante> thanks zookeeper 
20090215 23:00:37< Ivanovic> just make sure that they are in 1024x768 and in png (not jpeg, they look too bad)
20090215 23:01:14< zookeeper> sure, sure
20090215 23:01:53< Mordante> really off now, night
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20090215 23:03:54< alink> ok that's maybe not a speed bug, it looks like sometimes it skips the movement animation
20090215 23:17:00< alink> ok maybe just a problem of cpu power, seems to happen only when there is a lot of units
20090215 23:17:33< alink> but this is a -O0 compil I will try with a -O2 later
20090215 23:17:55< Soliton> Ivanovic: hopefully ""1.5.1*1_6,1.6*" will now match all 1.6 compatible versions.
20090215 23:18:11< Soliton> s/""/"/
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20090215 23:29:13< ESR_> Ivanovic: Close bug reports?  Er...we're not releasing, are we?
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20090215 23:54:20< Ivanovic> Soliton: uhm, this one will not match: 1.5.1*1_6
20090215 23:54:36< Ivanovic> since there is "betaSOMETHING" or "rcSOMETHING" behind it
20090215 23:54:38< dfranke> is the autotools build system still maintained?
20090215 23:54:48< Ivanovic> so the term should be 1.5.1*1_6*
20090215 23:54:58< Ivanovic> dfranke: maintained as in "bug reports being worked on"?
20090215 23:55:00< Ivanovic> no
20090215 23:55:03< dfranke> I just had a friend compile 1.5.10 on his mac.  He used autotools and ran into problem after problem.
20090215 23:55:16< Ivanovic> maintained as in "might work since new files to compile are added": yes
20090215 23:55:38< Ivanovic> dfranke: ask him to try via cmake
20090215 23:56:01< Ivanovic> if autotools still work: lucky you
20090215 23:56:18< Ivanovic> if not: we most likely won't fix it anymore, we got noone insane enough left to tackle the job
20090215 23:56:18< dfranke> Ivanovic: why cmake?  I thought scons was the final verdict.
20090215 23:56:26< Ivanovic> dfranke: there is no final verdict
20090215 23:56:35< Ivanovic> and cmake should work nicely...
20090215 23:56:52< Ivanovic> that is: scons might work, too, i don't know
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20090215 23:57:58< Ivanovic> ESR_: as you might have seen in the topic: we *have* released 1.5.10
20090215 23:58:22< ESR_> Ah, OK.  Shall close bugs.
20090215 23:59:03< loonycyborg> dfranke: Mordante still uses autotools AFAIK
20090215 23:59:04< dfranke> Ivanovic: I don't blame them.  Autotools is a collection of several decades of hacks.  There's nothing else at the center.  It's hacks all the way down.
20090215 23:59:12< Soliton> Ivanovic: oh right, imagine another * at the end.
20090215 23:59:12< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: uhm, no
20090215 23:59:26< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: he is in the process of switching to cmake since he is using it at work, too
20090215 23:59:50< dfranke> The company I work for hired me to maintain their autotools-based build system.  Instead I rewrote it in scons.
20090215 23:59:53< Ivanovic> Soliton: i thought you had it in the filter since i was able to connect, but i was not sure
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