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20090223 00:00:00< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r33035 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
20090223 00:00:00< CIA-70> New portrait for the Elvish Sylph, from Kitty (optimized).
20090223 00:00:00< CIA-70> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=341540#p341540
20090223 00:00:02< Mordante> (and I still need some features :-( )
20090223 00:00:28< alink> well maybe related to the multiple (double in fact, now i think) sending of draw events done by the timer
20090223 00:00:53< Mordante> what do you mean with double?
20090223 00:00:57< Ivanovic> Espreon: hmm, not having the -r thing in there breaks the script for the case os using only one thread
20090223 00:00:59< Ivanovic> at least here it does
20090223 00:01:14< Mordante> (and I think the delay predates the draw event change)
20090223 00:01:22< Ivanovic> Espreon: that is: which shell are you using and which version of it?
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20090223 00:01:45< Mordante> ah a nicely aligned listbox :-
20090223 00:01:46< Espreon> Ivanovic: Let me check.
20090223 00:01:47< Mordante> )
20090223 00:01:52< alink> Mordante: when you set draw_interval to 0, a second timer cycle is already running
20090223 00:02:08< alink> and will send a second draw event
20090223 00:02:18< Ivanovic> $ sh --version
20090223 00:02:19< Ivanovic> GNU bash, version 3.2.48(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
20090223 00:02:29< Mordante> yes which fires one more draw event and then sets the timer to 0
20090223 00:02:57< Mordante> we have a very small race it the user manages to put up a new dialog between these events 
20090223 00:03:12< alink> yes not very important but just saying because of possible side-effect
20090223 00:03:22< Mordante> but after closing all dialogs the multiple events should also end
20090223 00:03:45< Mordante> well I expect that to be rare
20090223 00:04:07< Mordante> still changing the entire drawing ticks to always run with fix those issues
20090223 00:04:09< Espreon> Ivanovic: It throws sh: Illegal option -- at me when I type "sh --version"
20090223 00:04:16< Ivanovic> WOW
20090223 00:04:19< Ivanovic> this one is great
20090223 00:04:33< alink> for example the initial 30ms delay is not always there, i think it's may happen if the previous second draw event is sent after closing the window
20090223 00:04:34< Ivanovic> Espreon: and what happens with this: echo $SHELL
20090223 00:04:36< Ivanovic> ?
20090223 00:04:55< Shadow_Master> I'm not surprised that Espreon's environment is not sane.
20090223 00:04:59< Espreon> "/bin/bash"
20090223 00:05:00< Ivanovic> (most likely it will be bash)
20090223 00:05:13< Ivanovic> okay, now this: /bin/bash --version
20090223 00:05:13< alink> * it may not happen
20090223 00:05:13< Mordante> Ivanovic I just solved on of my todos :-) still needs polishing but it's fixed (which I feared might take longer)
20090223 00:05:21< Ivanovic> Mordante: great
20090223 00:05:24< Ivanovic> which one is it?
20090223 00:05:27< Mordante> so we might be ready on schedule for 1.6
20090223 00:05:38< Mordante> the alignment of the listboxes
20090223 00:05:41< Espreon> GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
20090223 00:05:43< Espreon> Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
20090223 00:05:47< Mordante> which caused me some headaches
20090223 00:06:18< Ivanovic> Espreon: please try to change the script this way:
20090223 00:06:23< Soliton> Ivanovic: do not rely on /bin/sh being bash if you use bash features then use #!/bin/bash.
20090223 00:07:07< Shadow_Master> the script was already using the bash features and a fixed shebang
20090223 00:07:35< alink> Mordante: since i am looking the code, a last tiny thing about the status_ loop and the SDL_Delay(10), it's better to check status_ just before the sdl_delay(10)  ;-p
20090223 00:08:01< stikonas> Espreon: do you use Debian/Ubuntu?
20090223 00:08:15< Espreon> Yes.
20090223 00:08:15< stikonas> they use dash instead of bash for /bin/sh
20090223 00:08:26< Shadow_Master> uh?
20090223 00:08:34< Shadow_Master> I am using Debian lenny and bash was already the default sh
20090223 00:08:35< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33036 /trunk/utils/wesnoth-optipng: 
20090223 00:08:35< CIA-70> readd the -r param, it is needed here when only one thread is used...
20090223 00:08:35< CIA-70> explicitly state that bin/bash is needed, not 100% sure if it is supposed to work if a plain sh is used...
20090223 00:08:38< Ivanovic> Espreon: okay, please run svn up and check if the script works for you
20090223 00:09:01< Shadow_Master> in fact, I had to install dash manually
20090223 00:09:12< stikonas> I had a similar problem with source keyword which is not available in dash
20090223 00:09:17< Mordante> we can just call draw_timer() before setting the interval to 30 and we have a draw event in the queue, no need to call the timer with 1 and set to 30 afterwards :-)
20090223 00:09:30< Shadow_Master> stikonas: perhaps that was the default in Debian etch?
20090223 00:09:57< alink> Mordante: yes i know, i suggested that yesterday ;)
20090223 00:10:04< stikonas> perhaps, dash theoretically is faster than bash but has fewer features
20090223 00:10:08< Mordante> I know ;-)
20090223 00:10:09< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: yes, it is supposed to be used under Bash only
20090223 00:10:10< Soliton> dash is at least used in the install.
20090223 00:10:30< Mordante> just didn't look closely enough to realize draw_timer() pushes the event
20090223 00:10:31< alink> Mordante: ok, good you are not yet crazy :)
20090223 00:10:35< Espreon> Ivanovic: It works.
20090223 00:10:36< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: that is, Soliton discovered some time after one of my commits that I was using Bashisms. I'm too lazy to rewrite them..
20090223 00:10:37< alink> or can still manage to hide it
20090223 00:10:53< Ivanovic> Shadow_Master: so this is fixed now
20090223 00:10:54< Ivanovic> ;)
20090223 00:11:01< Soliton> Shadow_Master: i removed them back then but new ones were introduced.
20090223 00:11:03< Mordante> alink it's easy to pass as a sane person :-)
20090223 00:11:43< Mordante> well the whole problem is the SDL_Delay should have been replace with the call to wait for the first event in the queue and to process it
20090223 00:11:54< Mordante> which I forgot :-()
20090223 00:12:24< alink> Mordante: does mouse eevnt go there too ?
20090223 00:12:31< Shadow_Master> Soliton: ahh.
20090223 00:12:34< Mordante> yes all events
20090223 00:13:13< alink> Mordante: ah yes i see what you mean now, and yes do like that (later)
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20090223 00:13:33< Soliton> Ivanovic: btw, the proper way to check what /bin/sh is: ls -l /bin/sh i'd say. :-)
20090223 00:13:56< Ivanovic> Soliton: boring...
20090223 00:13:58< Mordante> I still think I'll implement your suggestion it might save a few ms
20090223 00:14:05< Ivanovic> but *this* post is interesting: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=341565#p341565
20090223 00:14:29< Ivanovic> where there any changes since the release of 1.5.8 that should have sped things up regarding saving/loading?
20090223 00:14:43< Soliton> wonder what OS he uses.
20090223 00:14:44< Mordante> I was about to ask the same question
20090223 00:14:56< ilor> I was about to ask that too :D
20090223 00:15:02< Mordante> Ivanovic's question
20090223 00:15:06< Shadow_Master> I was about to ask basically the same thing.
20090223 00:15:10< alink> Mordante: yeah killing timer delay is good, these people with super-cpu are not used to wait :-p
20090223 00:15:42< Shadow_Master> I still have slow saved games here, 1.5.10+svn (33024), -O3
20090223 00:16:10< Mordante> he should post here http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24140
20090223 00:16:36< Soliton> ~1MB save games (~30MB uncompressed) certainly do not load fast here. :-)
20090223 00:17:18< Shadow_Master> and I was asked by a user some time ago what was the benefit of gzip compression? pfff.
20090223 00:17:51< Soliton> anti savegame editing measure.
20090223 00:17:52< Ivanovic> :)
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20090223 00:18:11< Ivanovic> okay, now i should really head off to bed, n8
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20090223 00:18:37< Mordante> night Ivanovic 
20090223 00:18:44< alink> gn Ivanovic
20090223 00:18:47< Mordante> I'm also off to bed now, night
20090223 00:18:54< Ivanovic> Mordante: now lets just hope you fix your other blocker soon
20090223 00:19:06< ilor> I'm off too, night
20090223 00:19:15< Ivanovic> 1.6 blocker that is
20090223 00:19:25< alink>  gn all leaving people :-/
20090223 00:19:25< Mordante> Ivanovic first polish this one, it works but I do not dare to commit it
20090223 00:19:29 * Soliton wonders if Mordante should just hope, too.
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20090223 00:19:45< Mordante> const_cast here I am
20090223 00:19:53< ilor> Ivanovic: I miss the approximate ETA of the next 1.5 release in the topic, btw ;)
20090223 00:20:09< Ivanovic> ilor: because it was on the -dev ml
20090223 00:20:10< Mordante> or even const_cast<>(this)
20090223 00:20:15< Ivanovic> and, uhm, it *IS* in the topic
20090223 00:20:29< Ivanovic> (...)| 1.6 release plan: wiki/Wesnoth1.6ReleasePlan | (...)
20090223 00:20:36< Ivanovic> there the date is listed...
20090223 00:20:37< Ivanovic> ;)
20090223 00:20:45< Mordante> I always have hope ;-)
20090223 00:20:46< Soliton> we could have a counter and let wesbot decrease it every day!
20090223 00:21:00< Ivanovic> Soliton: then it would be at 0 soon
20090223 00:21:07< ilor> I prefered the "1.5.X planned for this sunday" style ;)
20090223 00:21:16< Ivanovic> and i want to have the two bugs with CVEs pending solved for 1.5.11
20090223 00:21:28< Mordante> 1.5.11 was planned for last sunday ;-)
20090223 00:21:49< Ivanovic> currently it is planned for "today"
20090223 00:21:50< Soliton> Ivanovic: then wesbot would send you angry messages!
20090223 00:21:57< Ivanovic> so i might get it out in ~20h
20090223 00:21:59< Ivanovic> ;)
20090223 00:22:16< ilor> then the topic could say, 1.5.11 planned for last sunday, and I'd be happy :P
20090223 00:22:21< Mordante> I would have expected in 23:17
20090223 00:22:54 * Mordante is  in a friendly mood
20090223 00:22:56 * Shadow_Master enjoys seeing Ivanovic stuck here :-P
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20090223 00:40:34< noy> voris: busy?
20090223 00:41:33< alink> about r32977  http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?rev=32977&view=rev    thanks this indeed restore the slow speed, but the unit now seems to go back one hex at the start of its move
20090223 00:41:46< alink> when using the slow speed
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20090223 00:42:42< alink> to be precise: go fast to the third hex, go back to the second, then walk slowly 
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20090223 00:42:55< alink> first hex being the source hex
20090223 00:43:25< alink> again undo and redo unaffected by the bug
20090223 00:43:41< alink> (new bug)
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20090223 00:45:20< alink> boucman : you are probably aware of it, but http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?rev=32977&view=rev   almost revert  http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?rev=32832&view=rev
20090223 00:45:42< alink> however the flags bug is still fixed
20090223 00:46:04< alink> bug #12987 (where there is a savegame)
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20090223 00:48:28< alink> last strange thing about slow speed,  unit_animator.cpp:947
20090223 00:48:33< alink> disp->delay(std::max<int>(0, std::min<int>(10, static_cast<int>((animation_time - get_animation_time()) * speed))));
20090223 00:49:25< alink> seems that a low speed will make a longer delay ?
20090223 00:49:39< alink> i mean shorter delay sorry
20090223 00:51:12< alink> anyway, i don't understand that code, just found that odd :-)
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20090223 00:53:41< CIA-70> ai0867 * r33037 /trunk/misc/fortunes/wesnoth: Add new fortune.
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20090223 01:09:00< Shadow_Master> hi Thrawn 
20090223 01:09:53< Thrawn> hey, sup?
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20090223 01:38:35< Shadow_Master> crimson_penguin: around?
20090223 01:39:52< crimson_penguin> Shadow_Master: yeah
20090223 01:39:57< crimson_penguin> I'm half asleep though ;)
20090223 01:40:07< crimson_penguin> on a bus all day
20090223 01:40:32< Shadow_Master> crimson_penguin: how's is your plan of converting wesnoth-tc going?
20090223 01:40:59< crimson_penguin> I kinda stalled :-/
20090223 01:41:07< Shadow_Master> :-(
20090223 01:41:24< crimson_penguin> It would help if I had a better understanding of exactly what it does, since my plan is to make a GUI for it
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20090223 01:41:38< crimson_penguin> but I mean, mostly I stalled because I was on a trip for a week and a half just now
20090223 01:44:09< Shadow_Master> there's a README  and a --help switch ;-)
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20090223 01:52:35< CIA-70> shadowmaster * r33038 /trunk/data/core/units/elves/Sylph.cfg: Make the Elvish Sylph portrait be displayed only at the right side.
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20090223 02:04:47< alink> boucman : a possible fix for my last reported bug (using slow speed causes weird 1 hex backward teleport at the start of the move, after r32977)
20090223 02:05:22< alink> in unit_animation.cpp:947 removing the " - 20/speed" (or if it's needed, maybe just control its value somehow) 
20090223 02:05:40< alink> note that it also make the whole move smoother
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20090223 02:06:11< alink> there is currently tiny jump between hexes (not counting the first big one)
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20090223 02:08:56< alink> boucman: i also noticed that the end of move_unit_between() do some big old-style invalidations of adjacent hexes
20090223 02:09:26< alink> didn't we have a nice (and complex) rect invalidation mechanism ?
20090223 02:09:59< Shadow_Master> perhaps it wasn't compatible with layering? just a gues
20090223 02:10:03< Shadow_Master> s
20090223 02:10:18< alink> mmh maybe risky to touch that now, it will probably make some big units or unit on keep bug
20090223 02:10:54< alink> Shadow_Master: no i think it's unrelated to layer, an invalidation invalidate all layers
20090223 02:11:39< alink> but i didn''t follow all the rending change, so i am maybe speaking about another engine ;-p
20090223 02:11:56< Shadow_Master> yeah risky indeed. units that are bigger than a hex are working pretty decently right now
20090223 02:12:16< Shadow_Master> it would be god to keep it as is until 1.7.
20090223 02:12:20< Shadow_Master> *good
20090223 02:13:10< alink> yes agreed, just soing a quick test after removing that old and maybe obsolete code
20090223 02:13:47< Shadow_Master> there are bigger than a hex unit in UtBS' "Final Confrontation" and in a good deal of non-mainline 1.5.x addons
20090223 02:14:19< alink> seems to work for the moment
20090223 02:15:01< alink> btw i was quite surprised by the "map change" event in test scenario :-)
20090223 02:15:50< alink> i was thinking: Oho major bug (in game or in brain) 
20090223 02:16:26< Shadow_Master> http://imagebin.org/39072
20090223 02:16:28< Shadow_Master> \o/
20090223 02:17:55< alink> Shadow_Master: I am surprised : I see windows Vista and "it works" in the same screenshot :-P
20090223 02:19:12< Shadow_Master> yeah, indeed.
20090223 02:21:21< alink> mmh removing that old invalidation code has probably little performance impact
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20090223 02:23:10< alink> it's just the idea of doing pixel-precise math to check which hexes invalidates, and then after tha, invalidates "all adjacent and future adjacent hexes "  :-/
20090223 02:23:52< Shadow_Master> you know, IMO rewriting stuff at this point is in general a recipe for great trouble
20090223 02:24:25< Shadow_Master> unless you can create additional months for testing...
20090223 02:24:44 * alink is not suggesting to rewrite stuff, just noticing old potentially useless stuff
20090223 02:25:26< alink> and indeed, not enough time to test, if these probably redundant operations hide something else
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20090223 02:30:37< voris> noy: not anymore
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20090223 02:38:15< Shadow_Master> oh yeah, forgot to mention: I won't be available regularly tomorrow
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20090223 02:40:12< alink> and i mention that i won't be available during my now starting period of sleep 
20090223 02:40:21< alink> bye
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20090223 03:22:50< Sapient> no one added the addon_list.cpp to SConscript yet?
20090223 03:30:45< Sapient> I'm adding it to my local copy now but I'm a bit out of synch with trunk's copy unfortunately
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20090223 04:19:13< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090223 04:41:57< CIA-70> sapient * r33039 /trunk/src/ (game_events.cpp game_events.hpp team.hpp): 
20090223 04:41:57< CIA-70> - minor simplification of game_events: eliminate the return value of handle_event()
20090223 04:41:57< CIA-70> - remove data encapsulation violation(s) of the team class
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20090223 05:17:00< Sapient> cya later, have fun.
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20090223 06:16:41< dfranke> I'm going to go ahead and start diking out the Python AI in my copy of the code.  I won't commit it until I get a say-so from Sirp.
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20090223 07:25:13< dfranke> silene: I forgot where we left it with bug #13037.  You're going to look into it tomorrow?
20090223 07:31:56< silene> it seems like Sirp_ took over, so I won't have too, I think
20090223 07:33:10< dfranke> speaking of...
20090223 07:33:20< dfranke> Sirp Sirp_: ping?
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20090223 07:38:33< Sirp_> dfranke: what's up?
20090223 07:39:39< dfranke> Sirp_: I've cleanly removed Python AI from my working copy of trunk.  Give the word and I'll make it my inaugural commit.
20090223 07:39:51< Sirp_> dfranke: okay; please do.
20090223 07:40:21< dfranke> Okay, now to go back through and make sure I don't *screw up* my inaugural commit :-)
20090223 07:42:01< dfranke> Sirp_: for 1.4, do you think it's sufficient to just remove the configure option and hardcode HAVE_PYTHON to false?
20090223 07:42:29< Sirp_> dfranke: I think that is probably sufficient.
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20090223 07:42:44< Sirp_> dfranke: did ESR actually object to removing python? I don't see any objection on the mailing list, or was it on irc?
20090223 07:43:04< dfranke> Sirp_: IRC.
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20090223 07:43:46< Sirp_> ahhh
20090223 07:44:09 * Sirp_ wonders if there was a rationale other than Python being all-awesome and C++ sucking.
20090223 07:44:56< dfranke> Sirp_: he just said he had philosophical objections to creating a void for customizable AI and making the system less flexible.
20090223 07:45:29< Sirp_> ahhh
20090223 07:45:59< Sirp_> when philosphy and security concerns meet, I have a certain opinion on which one wins. :)
20090223 07:46:03< dfranke> I agree with those objections, which is why I suggested backporting Lua to 1.6 once it's ready.
20090223 07:50:13< Soliton> i don't think there are plans for lua ais yet.
20090223 07:51:10< dfranke>  Soliton: there are plans for plans.
20090223 08:03:42< silene> there was no plan for lua ais indeed, but that's only because i thought that python was already up this job, so there was no need for duplicating this feature; conceptually there are no issues with having lua ais, it's just a matter of adding move_unit, attack_unit, and pathfinding interfaces
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20090223 08:06:04< CIA-70> dfranke * r33040 /trunk/ (17 files in 4 dirs): Remove Python AI, resolving bug #13047 and #13048.
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20090223 08:26:40< dfranke> hmm, I forgot to remove "Only run safe Python AIs" from preferences, but I know nothing about our UI code.
20090223 08:28:15< dfranke> who's in charge of that code?
20090223 08:46:19< Sirp_> hmmm it looks like strlen("xyz", 0) returns a pointer to the string terminator of "xyz". I'd have thought it'd return NULL.
20090223 08:46:29< Sirp_> err I mean strchr not strlen
20090223 08:50:03< CIA-70> zookeeper * r33041 /trunk/data/core/ (65 files in 3 dirs): Jetryl's new deciduous forest tiles and a new forest floor base used on all Gs^F* terrains instead of the regular savannah graphics.
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20090223 09:36:22< CIA-70> soliton * r33042 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: also guard against defense lower than 0%
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20090223 10:24:28< voris> Sirp_: makes sense to me. "xyz" is {120, 121, 122, 0} right?
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20090223 10:29:24< Sirp_> voris: yes. But I would not have said that '\0' is a character in the string "xyz". I would have said it terminates the string and is not part of the string
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20090223 10:30:05< voris> I guess that's where me sucking at C++ and always having to thumb through my reference helps then. :)
20090223 10:30:26< Sirp_> voris: the reference I have (the man page on strchr) seems unclear also. :)
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20090223 10:32:32< voris> Ahh... I always look here: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/ and they told me "The terminating null-character is considered part of the C string. Therefore, it can also be located to retrieve a pointer to the end of a string."
20090223 10:33:06< Sirp_> ahh. Interesting.
20090223 10:35:20< Rhonda> Of course \0 is the termination of the string and not part of it. But when it comes to memory allocation you _need_ four characters to store the string "xyz"
20090223 10:35:48< Rhonda> So it's part of the allocated memory, a marker.
20090223 10:36:35< Rhonda> In that way, being part of the memory segment, it's proper to call it part of the string. It's just the way you want to define it. :)
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20090223 10:37:18< Rhonda> Can someone tell me what's the preferred username for Shadow_Master is?
20090223 10:37:48< loonycyborg> Rhonda: That depends on what do you need it for.
20090223 10:38:35< Rhonda> For his login to the server.
20090223 10:39:27< loonycyborg> Probably shadowm, but better wait for him to be sure :P
20090223 10:39:36< Sirp_> Rhonda: sure. But that doesn't really have anything to do with the str*** functions
20090223 10:40:13< Sirp_> I'd have thought it'd be more logical for strchr(x, y) to be equivalent to memchr(x, y, strlen(x)); not memchr(x, y, strlen(x)+1); -- but I was wrong. :)
20090223 10:40:17< Sirp_> anyhow ,bed time....
20090223 10:40:22< Rhonda> Sirp_: Hmm, for the str*** functions the \0 should be part of the string (memory segment)
20090223 10:40:35< voris> Well I'd expect pedantry from str*** and also maximium exposure of detail over hand holding.
20090223 10:40:58< Rhonda> Sirp_: The understanding problem is that strlen actually gives you -1
20090223 10:40:59< Sirp_> Rhonda: depends what you mean. For instance, strlen() does not count \0 when it gives you the length of the string
20090223 10:41:07< Rhonda> Exactly.
20090223 10:41:40< Rhonda> It technically gives you the length to the pointer for the \0 character.
20090223 10:41:51< Sirp_> yes.
20090223 10:41:53< voris> heh
20090223 10:42:33< Rhonda> ... and such things are the cause for most off-by-one errors. :)
20090223 10:42:36< Sirp_> well, I mean I think the operation of strchr() is basically arbitrary. I don't think there's anything correct or consistent and it could work either way.
20090223 10:42:41< Sirp_> though I was surprised. :)
20090223 10:43:21< Sirp_> anyhow, I am off to bed
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20090223 10:52:21< loonycyborg> Great! dfranke cleared the space for my evil Boost.Python plans :P
20090223 10:52:52< loonycyborg> Though my limited knowledge of WML isn't sufficient to even determine whether they make sense..
20090223 10:53:41< dfranke> what plans are these?
20090223 10:54:53< loonycyborg> Basically it's exposing config object to C++ and running python using config objects as namespaces.
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20090223 11:20:04< Ivanovic> moin
20090223 11:44:08< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: so which hidden optimizations have you used for the windows build? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=341570#p341570
20090223 11:45:49< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Hm.. I don't remember using any hidden optimizations.
20090223 11:47:43< loonycyborg> The only thing I changed since previous releases is the license and appending .txt to text files like README
20090223 11:48:35< loonycyborg> Ah, and also shipping msvcr71.dll
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20090223 14:07:42< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33043 /trunk/doc/manual/ (5 files in 2 dirs): rework manual to have it up to date with the latest multiplayer login stuff
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20090223 14:28:09< Ivanovic> AI0867, Baufo, cjhopman, Dragonking, dfranke, esr, ilor, loonycyborg, Rhonda, Sirp, Soliton, zookeeper, other wesnoth devs: i created a non public channel named #wesnoth-dev-nonpublic
20090223 14:28:29< Ivanovic> if any security issues come up, they should be discussed in there and *NOT* in here or in #wesnoth-mentor
20090223 14:28:40< Ivanovic> the new chan will not be shown in normal searches for chans
20090223 14:28:51< Ivanovic> and i will kickban any bots trying to get on
20090223 14:29:08< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Btw how's freenode group registration going?
20090223 14:29:21< Ivanovic> later on i might even restrict it to only allow users with the wesnoth cloak in
20090223 14:29:27< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: no idea, got no message so far
20090223 14:29:42< Turuk> Foiled again.
20090223 14:32:55< Ivanovic> from now on #wesnoth-mentor is *only* ment for SoC related discussions that are meant to not be public knowledge
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20090223 14:52:03< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33044 /trunk/ (354 files in 8 dirs): 
20090223 14:52:03< CIA-70> pot-update
20090223 14:52:03< CIA-70> regenerated doc files (changed here because of new images and altered text!)
20090223 14:56:32< zookeeper> Ivanovic, so, tagging at the usual time?
20090223 14:57:00< Ivanovic> zookeeper: i hope that the stuff with the addon server is done till then
20090223 14:57:11< Ivanovic> s/addon/multiplayer
20090223 14:57:20< Ivanovic> when that is the case, i will get 1.5.11 out in about 5h
20090223 15:00:34< esr> Ivanovic: We have broken image references that need to be fgixed first.
20090223 15:00:50< zookeeper> ok...jetryl didn't manage to finish the new mixed forests yet, he'll probably do that tonight. if it looks like you'll tag before that, i might revert my former commit so there's not two different styles in at the same time.
20090223 15:01:00< zookeeper> esr, please pastebin first ;)
20090223 15:01:01< Ivanovic> esr: which ones?
20090223 15:01:14< esr> Wait...
20090223 15:02:03< esr> I'll have a report for you in a minute or two.
20090223 15:04:54< esr> There's a missing units/merfolk/hunter-defend.png referenced in the mainline Merfolk Hunter unit.
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20090223 15:05:46< zookeeper> fixed
20090223 15:06:05< CIA-70> zookeeper * r33045 /trunk/data/core/units/merfolk/Hunter.cfg: Fixed bad image reference.
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20090223 15:07:33< esr> It's also used in one of the South Guard scenarios:   ./../data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/scenarios/01_Born_To_The_Banner.cfg", line 459 -> units/merfolk/hunter-defend.png
20090223 15:08:22< zookeeper> will fix
20090223 15:12:15< CIA-70> zookeeper * r33046 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/scenarios/01_Born_To_The_Banner.cfg: Fixed a bad image reference and changed a couple of other ones that might break easily in the future.
20090223 15:16:48< zookeeper> no more?
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20090223 15:23:39< esr> zookeeper: That'sa ll of them.
20090223 15:24:06< esr> Uh oh.  "svn: Can't find a temporary directory: Internal error".  gna may have run out of space!
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20090223 15:24:49< esr> fabi: Glad you're here.
20090223 15:24:53< fabi> hi esr
20090223 15:25:18< fabi> the svn server is broken, isn't it?
20090223 15:25:26< esr> I need to know why you horizontal-flo[pprf the Kalian map -- and then *didn't fix the labels*!
20090223 15:25:37< fabi> uh
20090223 15:25:39< zookeeper> i got that error some time ago.
20090223 15:25:40< Ivanovic> fabi: please start legend of wesmere
20090223 15:25:54 * esr waves a fish threateningly
20090223 15:25:55< Ivanovic> it looks *UGLY* atm
20090223 15:25:58< zookeeper> AFAIK it was some weird local problem of mine though.
20090223 15:26:26< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13026
20090223 15:26:30< zookeeper> Ivanovic, does it still look ugly since my morning commit ;)?
20090223 15:26:31< Ivanovic> that one is clearly not local
20090223 15:26:43< zookeeper> (well, somewhat probably, but not that bad i'd guess...haven't tested myself)
20090223 15:27:05< Ivanovic> fabi: and yes, it looks like gna svn is currently down
20090223 15:27:09< zookeeper> i was referring to the temp dir internal error thing.
20090223 15:27:39< Ivanovic> svn: Can't find a temporary directory: Internal error
20090223 15:27:42< Ivanovic> that is a gna error
20090223 15:27:47< fabi> That indicates that there is no space left at gna's server.
20090223 15:28:48< esr> Yes.
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20090223 15:29:36< Ivanovic> zookeeper: it is still looking really strange
20090223 15:30:43< Ivanovic> cf http://imagebin.org/39098
20090223 15:34:09< esr> I'm going to go sleep.  Not much I can do to fix things with gna down.
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20090223 15:36:04< esr> fabi: See tracker bug  #13026 ([LoW] Place name labels in wrong locations in Elves' Last Stand).  I think there's a use of that map, or one like it, in HttT as well; it's got to be flipped if the K'lian map os going to stay flipped.  
20090223 15:36:34< fabi> esr: that map is in tRoW.
20090223 15:36:57< esr> Ah.  Did you flip it as well?
20090223 15:37:18< fabi> esr: no, it's on my todo. Zookeeper gave me permission to do it.
20090223 15:37:58< esr> OK.  What was the reason for fliopping all these?  I don'y object,. particularly, I'm just curious.
20090223 15:39:16< fabi> esr: I flipped the maps to fit the entry locations of Kalenz to the steps he is making on the map. Kalenz is aproaching the kalian from east. But he started at the west end of the map.
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20090223 15:40:23< esr> Well, the X coordiates in the labels have to change too, then.
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20090223 15:52:01< zookeeper> Ivanovic, oh, right, it uses the mixed forest.
20090223 15:52:54< fabi> zookeeper: you and jetryl are still improving the forest for 1.6, right?
20090223 16:07:51< zookeeper> fabi, yes
20090223 16:08:12< zookeeper> i'm not sure if jetryl will manage to finish the mixed forest until ivanovic tags tonight
20090223 16:09:10< fabi> zookeeper, Ivanovic: Okay, I will redo the maps when the forest is in it's final state for 1.6.
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20090223 16:47:55< Ivanovic> regarding the svn: [16:47:36] <zerodeux> I don't expect a full fix before tomorrow or wednesday :(
20090223 16:48:03< Ivanovic> with other words: no release today...
20090223 16:48:04< VladimirSlavik> hi, does anyone know why translation stats are different from real state even if they are current?
20090223 16:48:23< Ivanovic> VladimirSlavik: ???
20090223 16:48:31< Ivanovic> VladimirSlavik: what do you mean?
20090223 16:48:43< Ivanovic> the stats are for me exactly when they are normally on the website
20090223 16:48:52 * zookeeper wonders who the heck is zerodeux
20090223 16:48:59< zookeeper> oh, right.
20090223 16:49:03< zookeeper> nevermind.
20090223 16:49:11< Ivanovic> zookeeper: someone responsible for the gna infrastructure
20090223 16:49:16< Ivanovic> this is a paste out of #gna
20090223 16:51:24< VladimirSlavik> Ivanovic: I looked at g.w.o to see how it stands after your letter, and it shows -editor and -manual incomplete, but svn has them complete...
20090223 16:51:46< VladimirSlavik> last commit ca. 15:00 and stats update around 16:30
20090223 16:51:49< VladimirSlavik> -> ?
20090223 16:52:22< Ivanovic> VladimirSlavik: problem is that gna svn is currently down
20090223 16:52:34< Ivanovic> so your svn version is out of date and there is no way to get the current one
20090223 16:52:45< Ivanovic> gna problems, might take some days to have them fixed...
20090223 16:53:23< VladimirSlavik> strange, I would have sworn it updated just fine... but you must be right
20090223 16:54:00< Ivanovic> svn: Can't find a temporary directory: Internal error
20090223 16:54:04< Ivanovic> this is what you currently should get
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20090223 19:01:23< Ivanovic> good news from #gna
20090223 19:01:25< Ivanovic> [17:16:34] <dachary> gna svn will be back in 3 hours
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20090223 19:11:00< Mordante> hi
20090223 19:12:43< Ivanovic> hi Mordante
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20090223 19:17:04< AI0867_> wesbot: log 33013
20090223 19:17:06< wesbot> zookeeper * r33013 : Removed kamikaze.py and replaced it with a crude WML workaround for now.
20090223 19:17:09< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=33013
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20090223 19:25:26< Ivanovic> okay, work at gna is currently progressing
20090223 19:25:40< Ivanovic> stuff was copied over and it looks like at least the wesnoth repo was not damaged
20090223 19:26:03< boucman> Ivanovic: something bad happened at gna ?
20090223 19:26:05< Mordante> what's with gna?
20090223 19:26:15< Ivanovic> svn is down
20090223 19:26:24< Ivanovic> they had some hard drive failure
20090223 19:27:55< Mordante> :-(
20090223 19:28:34< Mordante> Rhonda thanks for enabling the log rotation again :-)
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20090223 19:53:15< stikonas> svn is back :)
20090223 19:54:06< Mordante> :-)
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20090223 20:00:45< CIA-70> esr * r33047 /trunk/data/core/images/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Rename the wesnoth small icon to avoid lots of spurious messages from wmllint.
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20090223 20:39:53< zookeeper> Ivanovic, if svn is back, are you going to tag tonight after all?
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20090223 20:41:40< YogiHH> hello everyone
20090223 20:41:52< YogiHH> AI0867_: ping
20090223 20:43:16< Mordante> hi YogiHH 
20090223 20:45:45< Mordante> Ivanovic in case you want to tag, I've no blockers left and my listbox change needs quite some polishing not worth waiting for
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20090223 20:50:13< YogiHH> AI0867: ping
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20090223 20:50:18< YogiHH> pfft
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20090223 20:50:47< Mordante> YogiHH ?
20090223 20:50:53< YogiHH> hmm?
20090223 20:51:03< Mordante> the pfft
20090223 20:51:20< YogiHH> AI quit, *right after* i send my ping ;-)
20090223 20:51:40< Mordante> and your pfft brought him back ;-)
20090223 20:51:53< YogiHH> AI0867, you there?
20090223 20:51:55 * Mordante starts to fear Yohi's summoning powers
20090223 20:52:02< Mordante> Yogi's*
20090223 20:52:07< YogiHH> hehe
20090223 20:55:33< CIA-70> noyga * r33048 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/fr.po wesnoth-lib/fr.po): French translation update
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20090223 21:06:00< Mordante> I'm off bye
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20090223 21:29:13< Ivanovic> zookeeper: yes, i plan to tag "soon"
20090223 21:29:22< zookeeper> hmm, ok
20090223 21:29:34< zookeeper> i guess i'll have to revert that forest commit then
20090223 21:30:29< zookeeper> unless someone else has an svn client which makes reverting individual commits easy, which mine doesn't
20090223 21:34:28< silene> which revision do you want to revert?
20090223 21:35:29< Soliton> Ivanovic: please ping me when you do.. trying to implement a little feature for moderators before.
20090223 21:35:38< zookeeper> silene, r33041
20090223 21:36:00< zookeeper> silene, but if you'll wait just a minute or two..
20090223 21:36:29< silene> ok, just tell me when you want it reverted
20090223 21:36:35< zookeeper> great, thanks
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20090223 21:42:47< zookeeper> silene, ok, please do
20090223 21:47:55< silene> done
20090223 21:47:58< CIA-70> silene * r33049 /trunk/data/core/ (65 files in 3 dirs): Revert "Jetryl's new deciduous forest tiles and a new forest floor base used on all Gs^F* terrains instead of the regular savannah graphics." (r33041) on behalf of zookeeper.
20090223 21:49:07< zookeeper> thanks
20090223 21:49:45< zookeeper> actually, would it be much trouble to re-commit that after the tagging, if you happen to be around at the time?
20090223 21:51:06< silene> ok
20090223 21:53:09< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33050 /trunk/po/ (14 files in 14 dirs): updated Czech translation
20090223 21:53:23< zookeeper> it would be really nice if tortoisesvn had some simple "revert commit" option which wouldn't require messing with the checkout itself
20090223 21:55:16< silene> i have stopped using subversion clients because of this kind of issues
20090223 21:57:19< zookeeper> usually if i have to revert something, i update to the previous rev, copy the files, update, paste and overwrite the files and commit :x
20090223 21:58:06< Soliton> well, to be fair "svn merge -c -33041 ." isn't that difficult.
20090223 21:59:09< zookeeper> ok, so there's something good to a command-line client ;)
20090223 21:59:15< AI0867> YogiHH: I am
20090223 21:59:35< AI0867> I didn't quite, someone pulled the powercord of this laptop and it finally ran out of juice
20090223 21:59:38< AI0867> while I wasn't home
20090223 21:59:45< AI0867> s/quite/quit
20090223 22:00:52< Soliton> zookeeper: don't you have a merge option in tortoise?
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20090223 22:05:26< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33051 /trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): 
20090223 22:05:26< CIA-70> restore the old "game-screen" and instead add the new main-menu image for the manual
20090223 22:05:26< CIA-70> updated german translation including images for the manual
20090223 22:05:51< zookeeper> Soliton, uh, yes. the description for that is "merges a branch into the main trunk" though, which was awfully obscure. i suppose it can do what i'd want it to.
20090223 22:06:23< Soliton> yeah, using merge to revert is unintuitive indeed.
20090223 22:06:25< zookeeper> (but it still looks awfully complicated ;)
20090223 22:11:07< silene> they call it "revert" in git, so it's a lot better from this point of view; but it also means that you can no longer use the "revert" command to revert a file; to do so, you have to "checkout" the file, which is about as unintuitive as reverting with "merge" in svn
20090223 22:11:38< grzywacz> true… 
20090223 22:15:23< YogiHH> AI0867: i have some more questions about that ai replay error
20090223 22:15:54< YogiHH> AI0867: Did you observe from the beginning or did you step into the game later on when it was started?
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20090223 22:18:58< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33052 /trunk/doc/manual/ (manual.cs.html manual.de.html): regenerated doc files
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20090223 22:31:49< alink> hi
20090223 22:34:29< alink> boucman: did you get my info about the new bug with slow speed ?
20090223 22:35:09< alink> boucman: today logs 00:41 and later
20090223 22:35:37< alink> oh seems that i forget to ping you when reporting it :-/
20090223 22:36:56< alink> and now he is afk, ok if no reply, i will stop being lazy and fill a report tonight
20090223 22:37:51< alink> but animation bug are so hard to describe correctly :-/
20090223 22:39:24< alink> and he fixed all my last reported bugs with simple one line copy-paste :-) 
20090223 22:39:54< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33053 /trunk/doc/manual/images/ (4 files in 2 dirs): *argh* another mistake in the images, the files have to be named main-menu...
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20090223 22:42:15< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33054 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-editor/de.po wesnoth-tsg/de.po): updated German translation
20090223 22:42:42< AI0867> YogiHH: I created the game
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20090223 22:43:26< Ivanovic> AI0867, AI0867_, alink, boucman, dfranke, Dragonking, esr, grzywacz, grzybacz, jorda, loonycyborg, Noyga, noy, Rhonda, silene, silene, Soliton, thespaceinvader, VladimirSlavik, YogiHH, zookeeper: ready for 1.5.11?
20090223 22:43:39< Ivanovic> everyone else: anything missing for 1.5.11 or can i work on releasing it?
20090223 22:43:41< VladimirSlavik> Why ask me? Yes!
20090223 22:43:49< AI0867> Ivanovic: I am ready
20090223 22:43:51< Dragonking> Ivanovic: No ugly crashes for me.
20090223 22:43:52< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: nothing in the pipeline here
20090223 22:43:55< noy> sure... why nt
20090223 22:43:58< noy> not
20090223 22:44:10< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i'll be ready in like five minutes..
20090223 22:45:09< esr> Ivanovic: wmllint is emitting one message I'm unhappy with, but I can't fix that without risking breaking UtBS.  Shp it; I'll fix things in 1.5.12.
20090223 22:45:10< alink> Ivanovic: ready here
20090223 22:45:10< Noyga> go for it (i'm currently inactive btw)
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20090223 22:46:45 * zookeeper runs to update changelogs
20090223 22:46:48< CIA-70> zookeeper * r33055 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/ (4 files): Improved some cutscenes, removed a slab and fixed some [endlevel]s.
20090223 22:50:49< Ivanovic> silene: around?
20090223 22:50:57< Ivanovic> silene: what is the status of your pending work?
20090223 22:51:59< silene> Ivanovic: none pending for 1.6, everything is for 1.7
20090223 22:53:25< Ivanovic> Soliton: what is the status of your feature?
20090223 22:53:51< CIA-70> zookeeper * r33056 /trunk/changelog: Updated changelog.
20090223 22:53:51< YogiHH> Ivanovic: Fine with me
20090223 22:54:17< CIA-70> zookeeper * r33057 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/09_Fallen_Lich_Point.cfg: Added some variation to the warlord portraits.
20090223 22:54:41< zookeeper> i don't think i have anything left.
20090223 22:55:29< Soliton> Ivanovic: still not working..
20090223 22:55:35< Soliton> Ivanovic: just go ahead anyway.
20090223 22:55:40< Ivanovic> okay, will do so
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20090223 22:59:15< Ivanovic> Soliton: what is the version string you would like to see ingame?
20090223 22:59:54< Ivanovic> due to the commit by boucman applying patch #1124 the game is incompatible with the previous beta anyway
20090223 23:00:10< Ivanovic> that is: a new command in WML was added which this client will not be able to handle
20090223 23:00:31< Soliton> could make it 1.5.11-1.6beta.. now.
20090223 23:01:24< Ivanovic> okay, will do so
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20090223 23:01:59< Ivanovic> Soliton: so better 1.5.11-1.6beta3 or plain 1.5.11-1.6beta without a number at the end?
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20090223 23:02:13< Ivanovic> somehow i prefer the first since you could somehow filter for this part easier
20090223 23:02:24< Soliton> nah, use the number if you like i just didn't know where we're at.
20090223 23:02:29< zookeeper> i'm off to bed, good luck
20090223 23:03:30< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33058 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): 
20090223 23:03:30< CIA-70> some changelog updates
20090223 23:03:30< CIA-70> bump version to 1.5.11-1.6beta3
20090223 23:04:23< loonycyborg> Soliton: Would you kindly fix perms in the git repo again? :)
20090223 23:05:19< Ivanovic> okay, will try to release now, wish me luck
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20090223 23:07:04< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: is this intended to be the last RC before 1.6?
20090223 23:07:17< Rhonda> thespaceinvader: No, it's the last beta before the RCs.
20090223 23:07:24< thespaceinvader> o right
20090223 23:07:29< thespaceinvader> thanks =)
20090223 23:07:51< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: just have a look at the topic, there you find how to find the "real" release schedule
20090223 23:07:52 * thespaceinvader hadn't comprehended the distinction
20090223 23:08:02< Ivanovic> as you see, we are one day behind...
20090223 23:08:15< thespaceinvader> on the wiki?
20090223 23:08:22< thespaceinvader> ah, it's been updated since last i looked
20090223 23:09:21< thespaceinvader> just so i know what the timetable is for getting portraits done before 1.6
20090223 23:10:16< Ivanovic> uhm, i also wrote a mail to the ml about updating the schedule
20090223 23:10:22< Ivanovic> read the wesnoth-dev mailling list!!!
20090223 23:10:27< Ivanovic> ;)
20090223 23:10:56< Ivanovic> okay, great
20090223 23:11:08< Ivanovic> the removal of python by dfranke was a little bit much in parts
20090223 23:11:20< Ivanovic> it broke realeasing (that is make dist)
20090223 23:12:04< loonycyborg> What exactly is failing?
20090223 23:12:20< Ivanovic> $ LC_ALL=C make dist-bzip2
20090223 23:12:22< Ivanovic> make: *** No rule to make target `config/py-compile', needed by `distdir'.  Stop.
20090223 23:12:54< Ivanovic> jupp, PYTHON_INSTALL should not have been removed...
20090223 23:13:28< Soliton> was the preference for unsafe pythong scripts removed as well?
20090223 23:13:50< Ivanovic> i think that one is still in
20090223 23:13:51< loonycyborg> I remember dfranke asking about how it's done.
20090223 23:14:47< alink> wesbot: log 33040
20090223 23:14:48< wesbot> dfranke * r33040 : Remove Python AI, resolving bug #13047 and #13048.
20090223 23:14:51< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=33040
20090223 23:15:03< Ivanovic> those two changes were a little too much:
20090223 23:15:04< Ivanovic> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/Makefile.am?rev=33040&r1=33039&r2=33040&view=diff
20090223 23:15:07< Ivanovic> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/configure.ac?rev=33040&r1=33039&r2=33040&view=diff
20090223 23:15:19< loonycyborg> Yes. if PYTHON_INSTALL clearly shouldn't have been removed.
20090223 23:15:56< loonycyborg> Since it install modules needed by python tools which are unaffected by security issue.
20090223 23:16:06< Ivanovic> jupp
20090223 23:17:23< Ivanovic> anyone around profound enough in autotools to "quickly" adjust it so that python is not a dependency anymore but tools are still installed?
20090223 23:18:37< alink> Soliton: the preference is still there but seems not used anymore
20090223 23:18:55< alink> that is "only_run_safe_python_ais"
20090223 23:19:07< stikonas> Soliton: python script option is still in 1.5.11
20090223 23:19:28< alink> and i still grep 16 python in c++ src
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20090223 23:20:28< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33059 /trunk/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): 
20090223 23:20:28< CIA-70> revert part of the changes by dfranke, those broke creation of the tarball
20090223 23:20:28< CIA-70> now the interesting task starts:
20090223 23:20:28< CIA-70> get rid off the python configure check (and using python flags at building) without breaking installation of the python tools
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20090223 23:26:19< Ivanovic> okay, i will remove this advanced preference
20090223 23:26:30< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I can try to fix the autotools problem if you wish..
20090223 23:26:39< dfranke> loonycyborg: alright... I was worried about that in the back of my mind.  It looked to me like neither scons no cmake dealt with it at all, so I figured it could be ignored.
20090223 23:27:00< YogiHH> night everyone
20090223 23:27:18< dfranke> loonycyborg: anyway, I'm at work right now.  If it's still broken this evening I'll look at it then.
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20090223 23:27:48< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: i have a *very* tiny and short fix for the moment
20090223 23:27:55< Ivanovic> let me commit it and then you can work on it
20090223 23:28:03< Ivanovic> in the meantime i try to get rid of the ingame option
20090223 23:29:29< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33060 /trunk/configure.ac: 
20090223 23:29:29< CIA-70> turn python off by default in autotools and mention that python support is not used ingame anyway
20090223 23:29:29< CIA-70> real removal of the flags has still to be done
20090223 23:31:02< alink> Ivanovic: i think you just need to remove the advanced preferences in data/_main.cfg
20090223 23:31:18< alink> testing
20090223 23:31:21< Ivanovic> alink: there is also some stuff in src/, i will remove this, too
20090223 23:32:03< alink> yes, i mean to deactivate it
20090223 23:32:07< boucman> alink: please open your bug so I can see, no time tonight
20090223 23:32:28< alink> boucman: ok
20090223 23:34:13< alink> yes cleaning  data/_main.cfg hides the option for the user (and i think for the code too)
20090223 23:34:13< CIA-70> loonycyborg * r33061 /trunk/configure.ac: Remove AC_ARG_ENABLE for python ai support and python check from autotools.
20090223 23:35:15< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33062 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): really remove the python ai stuff (the advanded prefs option this time)
20090223 23:37:41< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: configure still broken
20090223 23:37:47< Ivanovic> configure: creating ./config.status
20090223 23:37:48< Ivanovic> config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in
20090223 23:37:55< loonycyborg> I know. Working on it.
20090223 23:38:55< alink> note that there is also a "find (python) scripts" function in addon_checks.cpp  , but it's more work to clean it
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20090223 23:39:58< alink> or maybe not (i don't know addon code)
20090223 23:40:02< Soliton> Turuk: if you noticed that Radamant isn't serious what's the point of locking the thread about thrusting damage?
20090223 23:40:05< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33063 /trunk/po/ (98 files in 3 dirs): just another pot-update (yes, including a string change, before it was not working as expected...)
20090223 23:40:22< Ivanovic> alink: it makes sense to have it still in there
20090223 23:40:32< Ivanovic> since users can actually use the addon server also with older versions
20090223 23:41:14< alink> Ivanovic: i suppose, and i trust you, i am really not familiar with the python thing 
20090223 23:41:27< Ivanovic> i am not either
20090223 23:41:27< dfranke> Ivanovic: I ran into that yesterday too, before I touched anything.  Just run 'autoreconf' to get around it.
20090223 23:41:44< Ivanovic> dfranke: uhm, i am running autogen.sh on a plain checkout
20090223 23:41:44< dfranke> Ivanovic: presumably something missing from autogen.sh
20090223 23:41:57< Ivanovic> plain as in: a fresh svn export
20090223 23:42:11< Ivanovic> as close to a virgin of a checkout as possible without fetching everything newly
20090223 23:42:13< Ivanovic> ;)
20090223 23:43:02< dfranke> Ivanovic: yeah, it's a bug.  I'm just giving a workaround and disclaiming responsibility for introducing it :-)
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20090223 23:44:52< CIA-70> loonycyborg * r33064 /trunk/configure.ac: Fix "`pkgpython_PYTHON' is used but `pkgpythondir' is undefined" autotools error.
20090223 23:45:12< CIA-70> ivanovic * r33065 /trunk/po/wesnoth/de.po: updated German translation (making use of the last mins available...)
20090223 23:46:01< loonycyborg> ai_python.cpp is mentioned somewhere among translatable sources, but you can fix that I think..
20090223 23:47:09< Ivanovic> already did so
20090223 23:47:18< Ivanovic> that was the reason to run another pot-update
20090223 23:47:50< Ivanovic> okay, trying again
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20090223 23:48:49< dfranke> you're going to release 1.5.11 with #13037 still present?
20090223 23:49:09< Ivanovic> yes, i am
20090223 23:49:19< Ivanovic> the rest should be talked about in the new chan
20090223 23:49:49< Ivanovic> that is the fix here will be done serverside
20090223 23:59:23< Ivanovic> okay, at least some good news so far
20090223 23:59:32< Ivanovic> the binary compiles now and every campaign can be started
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