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20090206 00:05:57< Cytokinine[1]> hi
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20090206 00:07:03< Cyto> anybody?
20090206 00:07:11< fabi> jo
20090206 00:07:49< Cyto> could you tell me where i can dl add-ons?
20090206 00:08:26< fabi> there is a button for that in the main menu.
20090206 00:08:51< fabi> The first screen you see when entering wesnoth
20090206 00:09:43< Cyto> thanks a lot :)
20090206 00:19:41< fabi> you are welcome
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20090206 03:32:54< whitewater> any way to make the orcish assassin default to his poison ranged attack more?
20090206 03:33:22< Soliton> talking about the AI?
20090206 03:33:46< whitewater> talking about when i attack
20090206 03:33:54< whitewater> it defaults to melee more than i want
20090206 03:34:25< Soliton> and you can't be bothered to select the attack you want or what?
20090206 03:34:28< whitewater> depending on circumstances will choose melee versus clashers, dwarf fighter
20090206 03:34:53< whitewater> i think it could be more intelligent, in what it chosses
20090206 03:35:04< whitewater> if it put a little more vaulue on the poison
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20090206 09:07:54< Ivanovic> moin
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20090206 13:44:21< Ivanovic> cu
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20090206 16:29:16< Unnheulu> what size do tile overlays have to be?
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20090206 16:36:17< zookeeper> any.
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20090206 16:40:01< Unnheulu> so it could be 1px by 1px?
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20090206 16:43:15< zookeeper> i guess. why on earth are you asking instead of testing?
20090206 16:43:35< zookeeper> it's not like people usually have an answer for something which obviously isn't really used anywhere.
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20090206 16:50:06< Unnheulu> zookeeper: never worked out how to use overlays :S
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20090206 17:44:01< Unnheulu> Ken_Oh: half done a chair, half done an empty case, and quarter done a bookcase ;)
20090206 17:44:13< Unnheulu> I say half done because there is very little shading so far
20090206 17:44:20< Unnheulu> (I want to get shape right, then shade ;))
20090206 17:44:34< zookeeper> someone had a nice set of furniture items somewhere.
20090206 17:44:45< Unnheulu> Rly?
20090206 17:45:02< Unnheulu> I remember someone saying about having these drawn would be cool last night
20090206 17:47:19< zookeeper> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108295#p108295
20090206 17:47:37< zookeeper> and just searching for "furniture" might bring more.
20090206 17:48:26< Unnheulu> hmm
20090206 17:48:46< Unnheulu> but scott appears to left, and I'm not sure about continuing with someone elses art ;)
20090206 17:49:42< Rrenys> i made a bookcase once
20090206 17:49:47< Rrenys> iftu used it iirc
20090206 17:49:49< Unnheulu> nice :)
20090206 17:50:32< Unnheulu> zookeeper: scotts one were from sims :S
20090206 17:51:12< Ken_Oh> unn: cool. zoo: i saw that thread. i was thinking about going somewhere from there, but if someone else wanted to do it, even better
20090206 17:51:42< Ken_Oh> also, that's not scott's work, but someone else's. i know he got permission but....
20090206 17:52:01< Unnheulu> Ken_Oh: books on the bookcase, or empty?
20090206 17:52:52< Ken_Oh> both? maybe a bag or a skull too
20090206 17:52:57< Unnheulu> ok
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20090206 18:20:52< Unnheulu> Ken_Oh: empty bookcase, and case done :)
20090206 18:21:12< Unnheulu> not shaded of course
20090206 18:21:21< Unnheulu> I'll leave that till i have enough crit ;)
20090206 18:23:24< Rrenys> the angle is bad
20090206 18:23:51< Unnheulu> ok
20090206 18:24:02< Unnheulu> can you elaborate?
20090206 18:24:07< Unnheulu> :)
20090206 18:24:22< Rrenys> having totally vertical or horizontal lines looks unnatural
20090206 18:26:08< Unnheulu> Yh
20090206 18:26:13< Unnheulu> that would be texturing
20090206 18:26:18< Rrenys> no
20090206 18:26:20< Rrenys> http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/raamaturiiul_tuehi_204.png
20090206 18:26:20< Unnheulu> but the angle issue
20090206 18:27:07< Rrenys> that looks much more natural, because none of the angles there go wholly horizontally or vertically
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20090206 18:27:26< Unnheulu> as I said, I'll fix that during texturing :)
20090206 18:27:46< Rrenys> oh.
20090206 18:28:17< Unnheulu> When I texture it, then I'll roughen things up a bit
20090206 18:28:34< Unnheulu> Hang on, just jotting down what you said on some paper :)
20090206 18:29:06< Rrenys> paper :o
20090206 18:29:10< Rrenys> what century do you live in
20090206 18:29:42< Ken_Oh> norg: i'm with you. banks is near the top of my top 10 list
20090206 18:30:15< Ken_Oh> aha, wrong irc chat
20090206 18:30:17< Unnheulu> when I used my PC's noting tool then I forgot to back it up -.-
20090206 18:30:29< Rrenys> "noting tool"?
20090206 18:30:39< Rrenys> is that what they call notepad these days
20090206 18:31:00< Unnheulu> I dno its name
20090206 18:31:04< VurtualRuler98> Real men use the windows vista sticky note simulator 2009 :(
20090206 18:31:08< Unnheulu> the XFCE default
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20090206 18:42:07< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: what do you think of them anyway?
20090206 18:42:18< thespaceinvader> the boats
20090206 18:42:28< thespaceinvader> they're not too bad
20090206 18:42:29< Unnheulu> nah
20090206 18:42:35< Unnheulu> the furniture
20090206 18:42:40< thespaceinvader> the chairs yeah
20090206 18:42:59< Unnheulu> im putting stuff in the other ones atm :)
20090206 18:43:05< thespaceinvader> they're lacking in shading and the lines are VERY straight
20090206 18:43:14< thespaceinvader> i'm not sure about the perspective, either...
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20090206 18:43:22< Unnheulu> perspective has been said
20090206 18:43:30< Unnheulu> and I know about lines
20090206 18:43:34< Unnheulu> (Read my last post ;))
20090206 18:43:44< Unnheulu> (Read my first post for shading)
20090206 18:44:27< Unnheulu> I see the problem with perspective on the cases
20090206 18:47:12< thespaceinvader> have you reference for the chair?
20090206 18:47:28< thespaceinvader> it looks really odd to have a chair where the legs have a smaller shape than the seat and the back
20090206 18:47:32< thespaceinvader> it would be really unstable...
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20090206 18:54:44< Unnheulu> reference?
20090206 18:54:56< Unnheulu> I have what I saw three weeks ago in my grandparents...
20090206 18:54:59< thespaceinvader> image to work from
20090206 18:55:03< Unnheulu> no
20090206 18:55:06< Unnheulu> :)
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20090206 18:59:44< thespaceinvader> i suggest you get one
20090206 18:59:57< thespaceinvader> memory, as jetryl likes to say, is notoriously unreliable =)
20090206 19:02:08< Rrenys> if you want to get an idea of what simple geometric objects (like chairs or bookcases or whatever) look like at weird angles, try blender or something, and if you want you can always take it from there to some raster editing program to make a sprite with such looks
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20090206 19:05:09< Unnheulu> :)
20090206 19:05:09 * Unnheulu wonders wher he will get reference for that chair from
20090206 19:05:10< Unnheulu> my grandparents are in gloucteshire or somewhere, and they are the only people I know with chairs like that
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20090206 19:05:14< Unnheulu> there areprobably much more people but I dont know them xD
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20090206 19:05:42< Rrenys> it doesnt matter
20090206 19:05:53< Rrenys> most chairs have got 4 legs
20090206 19:06:44< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: www.googleisyourfriend.com
20090206 19:06:50< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: you seriously play runescape?
20090206 19:06:56< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: heh, good point
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20090206 19:08:27< Unnheulu> I know how to fix the legs
20090206 19:08:31< Unnheulu> BTW all the legs are the same number of pixels
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20090206 19:12:54< VurtualRuler98> wait, what?
20090206 19:13:03< VurtualRuler98> no?
20090206 19:13:08< VurtualRuler98> who are you? stop stalking me.
20090206 19:13:17< Unnheulu> You dont play runescape? good
20090206 19:13:25< Unnheulu> ;)
20090206 19:13:26< Rrenys> why did you ask
20090206 19:13:38< Unnheulu> because I saw him on a runescape IRC channel
20090206 19:14:04< Rrenys> yet you know it was runescape-related even tho it didnt have runescape in its name?
20090206 19:14:05< Rrenys> AHA!
20090206 19:14:16< Unnheulu> ?
20090206 19:14:27< Rrenys> which suggests you are a runescape player yourself
20090206 19:14:38< Unnheulu> not since
20090206 19:14:40< Unnheulu> umm
20090206 19:14:44< Unnheulu> 2 years ago
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20090206 19:14:58< VurtualRuler98> I've been running a channel on the network for three or four years.
20090206 19:15:19< VurtualRuler98> The network rarely dies, and it's never spammed or hacked or anything.
20090206 19:15:40< VurtualRuler98> As opposed to a large network.
20090206 19:15:58< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: better>
20090206 19:17:21< Unnheulu> ?
20090206 19:17:26< thespaceinvader> a little, perhaps, but the seat and back are still noticeably broader than the base of the legs
20090206 19:18:00< Unnheulu> Really
20090206 19:18:01< Unnheulu> ?
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20090206 19:19:43< VurtualRuler98> Unnheulu, I hear you when you walk outside, stop stalking me >:(
20090206 19:19:55< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: I am not stalking yo
20090206 19:20:03< Unnheulu> this is the only channel we are both on
20090206 19:20:16< Rrenys> with this nickname
20090206 19:20:24< Unnheulu> ?
20090206 19:20:27< Rrenys> he is on the other channel with another nickname, secretly
20090206 19:20:35< Unnheulu> eekzers!
20090206 19:20:38< Unnheulu> STALKER!!!
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20090206 19:21:16< VurtualRuler98> He's been on every network I'm on, parting generally right before I join, with someone mentioning it.
20090206 19:21:48< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: are you on AfterNet?
20090206 19:21:52< VurtualRuler98> no
20090206 19:21:54< Unnheulu> NetRusk?
20090206 19:21:59< VurtualRuler98> Nothing says you can't be on networks I'm not on.
20090206 19:22:10< Unnheulu> Excluduing freenode, those are the only networks im on
20090206 19:22:44< Rrenys> this is exactly what a stalker would say
20090206 19:22:56< Unnheulu> =)
20090206 19:23:05< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: what about the bookcase?
20090206 19:24:03< thespaceinvader> s'ok i guess
20090206 19:24:06< thespaceinvader> needs shading
20090206 19:25:12< Unnheulu> ...
20090206 19:26:59< Unnheulu> the case will have only one level, not three i think
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20090206 19:44:01< Unnheulu> I get soo annoyed sometimes
20090206 19:44:19< Unnheulu> Whenever I play with my bros, and their friends, and they host, it ends up 5/30
20090206 19:44:33< Unnheulu> If I host and I make it 2/70 they all quit >:-(
20090206 19:48:57< Tomsik_> yeah...
20090206 19:49:07< Tomsik_> That happens to everyone, I guess
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20090206 19:53:27< Unnheulu> so I always lose MP because I cant get practise with  2/70
20090206 19:53:33< Unnheulu> :(
20090206 19:56:56< Tomsik_> That's what the Order of Classical Wesnoth was created for :-p
20090206 19:57:20< Unnheulu> Being part of it wont make much difference
20090206 19:59:05< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: how is the case?
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20090206 20:01:15< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090206 20:14:15< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: looks fine
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20090206 20:44:12< Ken_Oh> wow, the new [message] view breaks brotherhood really bad
20090206 20:44:21< Ken_Oh> brotherhood of light, i mean
20090206 20:45:37< Shadow_Master> report bugs: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/ReportingBugs .
20090206 20:45:50< Shadow_Master> but try to isolate the guilty WML.
20090206 20:45:51< Ken_Oh> zoo knows, i'll let him handle it
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20090206 21:30:10< zookeeper> yup
20090206 21:30:37< zookeeper> i'll dump that on mordante sometime when he's back online
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20090206 21:52:28< Shadow_Master> zookeeper: sound!
20090206 21:52:50< zookeeper> i know
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20090206 22:08:14< dapounet> hello
20090206 22:09:35< Unnheulu> yo
20090206 22:09:46< Shadow_Master> hi
20090206 22:16:19< Unnheulu> does anyone have problems with a straight line in a sword?
20090206 22:16:21< Unnheulu> straight lines
20090206 22:17:02< Unnheulu> Ken_Oh: done a few more
20090206 22:17:07< Unnheulu> I still need to texture
20090206 22:20:08< Ken_Oh> cool
20090206 22:20:18< Ken_Oh> are you going to post these somewhere when you're done?
20090206 22:20:28< Unnheulu> I have, but they need texture
20090206 22:20:31< Unnheulu> What do you want?
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20090206 22:20:38< Unnheulu> I have chair, and various cases
20090206 22:20:41< Unnheulu> a chair
20090206 22:20:43< Unnheulu> ^^
20090206 22:21:05< Unnheulu> hi kitty_
20090206 22:21:12< Unnheulu> your portraits are awesome
20090206 22:21:12< kitty_> hi Unnheulu 
20090206 22:21:49< Unnheulu> my "holes in the ground" dont look as good as your portraits, and they are tonnes easier to draw^^
20090206 22:22:13< Unnheulu> Ken_Oh: Im xer on the forum
20090206 22:22:19< Ken_Oh> ok, will look
20090206 22:22:43< Shadow_Master> Unnheulu: can't you use xer as IRC nickname?
20090206 22:22:54< Shadow_Master> "hi I'm ShikadiLord on the forum". boo.
20090206 22:22:54< Unnheulu> Shadow_Master: I stopped using xer a year ago
20090206 22:22:55< Unnheulu> ish
20090206 22:23:19< Unnheulu> it was my childhood nickk
20090206 22:23:29< Unnheulu> But it means nothing
20090206 22:23:52< Ken_Oh> looks good
20090206 22:24:13< Unnheulu> I need to texture, I'll do that now if you dont want any more furnature
20090206 22:25:20< Ken_Oh> unn: i'll probably be using these when you're done, if that's cool
20090206 22:25:35< Unnheulu> ok
20090206 22:25:42< Unnheulu> thats why I made them :)
20090206 22:25:49< Unnheulu> do you want anything else?
20090206 22:30:24< Unnheulu> I dont think that straight lines would be to bad on a sword case
20090206 22:30:33< Unnheulu> afterall, they would look after them
20090206 22:31:12< Ken_Oh> i think a table is really all that's left
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20090206 22:31:34< Unnheulu> ye
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20090206 22:43:42 * Unnheulu is silently waiting for crit
20090206 22:43:56< Unnheulu> Shadow_Master: your shikadilord?
20090206 22:44:04< Unnheulu> where did you get shikadi from?
20090206 22:44:06< Shadow_Master> he's not mine. he's me.
20090206 22:44:19< Shadow_Master> (your instead of you're? damnit)
20090206 22:44:29< Unnheulu> ^^
20090206 22:46:42< Unnheulu> ouch
20090206 22:46:49< Unnheulu> I've just quadrupal posted
20090206 22:46:55< Unnheulu> :(
20090206 22:47:58< Tomsik_> Combo
20090206 22:48:45 * Unnheulu wonders if he should wait for someone to crit his work before reposting
20090206 22:48:55< Unnheulu> Although it could be days before that happens^^
20090206 22:49:09< Shadow_Master> wait, foo.
20090206 22:49:47< Shadow_Master> Unnheulu: and about the shikadi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikadi
20090206 22:49:51< Shadow_Master> Google is your friend.
20090206 22:50:28< Unnheulu> oh
20090206 22:50:36< Unnheulu> destroyer! ^^
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20090206 23:18:30< Unnheulu> any candians here?
20090206 23:18:44 * Shadow_Master has a chocolate sitting by his side
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