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20090210 00:52:27< Ken_Oh> sup. anyone here that can tell me how to run configure switches on windows? i got told to run --log-info=engine but when i type in "wesnoth.exe --log-info=engine" it doesn't do anything
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20090210 02:23:20< zSensei> I can't believe you guys
20090210 02:23:32< zSensei> Any dev here I can vent my rage upon?
20090210 02:24:18 * Shadow_Master 
20090210 02:25:24< noy> zSensei: what?
20090210 02:26:30< zSensei> Why exactly choose WML over XML?
20090210 02:26:43< Shadow_Master> that was Sirp's decision when he started it all.
20090210 02:27:03< Shadow_Master> I am sure this can give you an idea: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19082
20090210 02:27:07< zSensei> This is giving me no end of grief
20090210 02:27:25< Shadow_Master> why?
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20090210 02:29:25< zSensei> we talked before; I've still been unable to get a simple gold value setting on my multiplayer melee map
20090210 02:29:51< Shadow_Master> I don't see how XML would make it easier.
20090210 02:30:23< Shadow_Master> specially since you just need to add a gold_lock attribute set to 'yes' and set your gold in the side declaration
20090210 02:31:00< zSensei> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/md9b1540
20090210 02:31:13< zSensei> can you do it for me pleas?
20090210 02:31:38< zSensei> just embed that map data in something this accursed parser will understand
20090210 02:31:54< Shadow_Master> I told you before it parses correctly for me here
20090210 02:32:21< zSensei> really? 1.5.9?
20090210 02:32:42< Shadow_Master> 1.5.9+svn at revision 32727 to be exact.
20090210 02:33:37< zSensei> why would any parser rely on line endings as a delimiter is beyond me
20090210 02:34:01< Shadow_Master> a certain popular scripting language's parser does so as well.
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20090210 02:50:40< zSensei> HELP (`A`)
20090210 02:50:51< zSensei> it keeps saying it has no sides, even though
20090210 03:03:18< Soliton> well, there are no side definitions in your paste.
20090210 03:03:59< zSensei> I left them out in the paste, but,
20090210 03:03:59< zSensei> [side]
20090210 03:03:59< zSensei> side=1
20090210 03:03:59< zSensei> canrecruit=yes
20090210 03:04:00< zSensei> controller=human
20090210 03:04:02< zSensei> team_name=north
20090210 03:04:04< zSensei> [/side]
20090210 03:04:06< zSensei> same for side=2
20090210 03:05:09< Soliton> looks good.
20090210 03:08:04< zSensei> then I'm stumped.
20090210 03:08:13< zSensei> Why does this have to be so utterly evil?
20090210 03:08:48< Soliton> paste your complete scenario data and the exact error you get.
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20090210 03:14:58< zSensei> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m1ce3291
20090210 03:15:17< zSensei> It still says This scenario is invalid because it has no sides.
20090210 03:15:54< Shadow_Master> is your file encoded in UTF-16 by the way?
20090210 03:16:20< Shadow_Master> it seems to be the default encoding that Windows' text editors handle - dumbest idea IMO. It is not ASCII-compatible.
20090210 03:16:42< Shadow_Master> if it is, then Wesnoth will see a lot of nonsense in it:
20090210 03:16:58< Soliton> the problem is that BOM thingy. not sure if we fixed that yet.
20090210 03:17:39< Shadow_Master> probably not, or it would be mentioned in at least one changelog.
20090210 03:18:29< Soliton> zSensei: find some encoding option in your editor and tell it some different encoding like ASCII or so.
20090210 03:18:50< zSensei> Shadow_Master I checked the installed maps; they were all CRLF
20090210 03:19:01< zSensei> and even LF only makes no difference
20090210 03:19:02< Soliton> it's not about the line ending.
20090210 03:19:14< zSensei> I double-triple-checked
20090210 03:19:45< zSensei> oh ok
20090210 03:20:02< Shadow_Master> change the encoding in whatever editor you use to ASCII or "UTF-8 (without BOM)" if it offers something like that - the latter option is present at least in Notepad++
20090210 03:20:52< zSensei> I'm on to something; all this has probably to do with the horrible convulted directory structure
20090210 03:21:34< Shadow_Master> I'm sure a file's encoding has nothing to do with our directory structure.
20090210 03:21:38< Soliton> it found the scenario and told you it's not valid so you think it's about directory struture..? makes sense...
20090210 03:22:02< zSensei> No,
20090210 03:22:23< zSensei> it's reading stuff for several different places to be able to load a map in a user's editor/maps folder
20090210 03:22:46< zSensei> There's several ambiguous folders all named maps or scenarios or campaign or the other
20090210 03:23:02< zSensei> renaming one makes all maps invalid.. holy crap
20090210 03:23:15< Soliton> and none of them has anything to do with editor/maps/.
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20090210 03:24:21< Soliton> there is realy just editor/maps/ and data/campaigns/.
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20090210 03:24:36< Soliton> one is for simple maps the other is for scenarios.
20090210 03:25:00< zSensei> and yet removing any one folder makes all previously working maps throw the same errors
20090210 03:25:05< zSensei> Well, here goes;
20090210 03:25:13< Soliton> no, it doesn't.
20090210 03:25:29< zSensei> Shadow_Master <zSensei> and yet removing any one folder makes all previously working maps throw the same errors
20090210 03:25:48< zSensei> My Documents/Wesnoth1.5/data/maps
20090210 03:25:55< zSensei> My Documents/Wesnoth1.5/data/maps/multiplayer
20090210 03:26:01< zSensei> My Documents/Wesnoth1.5/data/multiplayer
20090210 03:26:09< zSensei> My Documents/Wesnoth1.5/editor/maps
20090210 03:26:29< zSensei> Program Files/Wesnoth/data
20090210 03:26:30< zSensei> Program Files/Wesnoth/data/campaigns
20090210 03:26:40< zSensei> Program Files/Wesnoth/data/multiplayer/maps
20090210 03:26:46< zSensei> Program Files/Wesnoth/data/multiplayer/scenarios
20090210 03:26:59< Soliton> you might want to stop that.
20090210 03:26:59< zSensei> some .cfg files refer to files in other directories
20090210 03:27:23< Soliton> do you have a point?
20090210 03:27:39< zSensei> I wish I could; what was the need for all that?
20090210 03:27:51< zSensei> especially in the userdata folder?
20090210 03:28:57< Shadow_Master> where did you get that information anyway?
20090210 03:29:01< zSensei> if I remove Program Files/Wesnoth/data/multiplayer all of my previously working maps in My Documents/Wesnoth1.5/editor/maps fail.
20090210 03:29:16< zSensei> So now I've to check both places don't I?
20090210 03:29:18< Shadow_Master> you sure didn't notice that you are removing a core subdirectory...
20090210 03:29:19< Soliton> that makes no sense.
20090210 03:29:33< Shadow_Master> ... and that the core files should be left intact.
20090210 03:30:05< zSensei> ugh
20090210 03:32:00< zSensei> Nevermind guys, I'll just have to embrace the open-source masochism spirt and suffer over this by myself all night lol.. Thanks anyway.
20090210 03:33:11< zSensei> If you know how to start building a map with the in-built editor and simply set a preset gold value to the generated file, just show me how.
20090210 03:33:13< Soliton> indeed, it sure looks like you're incapable of asking for help.
20090210 03:33:35< Soliton> the built-in editor is used for making maps only.
20090210 03:34:20< zSensei> No, I saw how the logic behind this game was so INCREDIBLY inflexible when I realized you could start chatting in multiplayer games by press 'm' and not 'M'
20090210 03:34:35< zSensei> and the current mess I'm going through is just an extension of that.
20090210 03:34:50< Shadow_Master> nobody is forcing you to play anyway.
20090210 03:34:57< noy> Ever thought of submitting a bug report or a feature request?
20090210 03:35:07< noy> rather than acting like an obtuse ass on IRC?
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20090210 03:36:12< zSensei> lol this has just been frustrating me no end all day (;-;)
20090210 03:36:15< Soliton> logic is inflexible because shortcuts are case sensitive?
20090210 03:36:29< noy> Soliton: apparently. 
20090210 03:36:40< Soliton> what apps actually have case insensitive shortcuts?
20090210 03:36:47< zSensei> Something so simple; I only wanted to not have to set the starting gold each time I hosted a multiplayer map I built with the editor
20090210 03:37:19< Soliton> zSensei: did it occur to you to just ask how to do that then?
20090210 03:37:28< Soliton> with all your love for logic?
20090210 03:37:30< zSensei> I don't mean pressing Shift+M, I mean pressing M when you have caps-lock on
20090210 03:37:52< Shadow_Master> I told you it was a bug, but apparently I just imagined it.
20090210 03:38:12< Soliton> so you want apps to differentiate between holding down shift and caps lock being on?
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20090210 03:38:19< zSensei> I did!
20090210 03:38:23< Soliton> it's not a bug.
20090210 03:38:29< zSensei> Shadow_Master couldn't figure out what was causing this, because it worked on his system apparently
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20090210 03:39:12< Shadow_Master> am I supposed to go to your home to check why it doesn't work for you in particular? Sure..
20090210 03:39:14< zSensei> No, so I think there's something trivial similar to that case senstivity stupidty, like unable to handle different line endings
20090210 03:40:13< Shadow_Master> well, I was apparently wrong, since I can use add-ons with Windows line-endings in a Unix-like system. But that doesn't make the design more stupid, does it?
20090210 03:40:17 * Soliton waits for an app without case sensitive shortcuts being mentioned.
20090210 03:41:29< zSensei> er, every app?
20090210 03:41:49< zSensei> You may start by tring ALT+F with or without caps-lock.
20090210 03:42:02< zSensei> wow, brings up the File menu in either case doesn't it? Amazing huh.
20090210 03:42:15< zSensei> Not so with Wesnoth!
20090210 03:43:01< Shadow_Master> It would be as easy as filing a bug report- we can later decide whether it is valid or not.
20090210 03:43:11< Soliton> it's invalid.
20090210 03:43:14< zSensei> Same with Shift+Alt+F, but that kind of flexibility is probably a little too far fetched in the *nix/open-source world, so nevermind.
20090210 03:43:23< Soliton> shortcuts are specifically case sensitive.
20090210 03:43:57< Soliton> in every app i use.
20090210 03:43:58< zSensei> <zSensei> You may start by tring ALT+F with or without caps-lock.
20090210 03:44:14< Soliton> but apparently that is being close minded because some guy doesn't like it.
20090210 03:44:16< Shadow_Master> I still don't get the point of your rant though. If you think commanding us to do A or B will get you anywhere...
20090210 03:44:19< zSensei> Well?
20090210 03:44:20 * zSensei waits for an answer.
20090210 03:44:30< Soliton> and some generic windows shortcut works case insensitive.
20090210 03:44:43< Soliton> zSensei: dude, i don't use windows.
20090210 03:44:44< zSensei> <zSensei> wow, brings up the File menu in either case doesn't it? Right?
20090210 03:44:52< Soliton> no, not at all.
20090210 03:44:56< zSensei> I'm not commanding, just answering Soliton's goading :P
20090210 03:45:31< zSensei> Even in Linux I'm sure CAPS LOCK doesn't affect ALT+[x] shortcuts!
20090210 03:46:01< Soliton> good thing you are sure about things you have no clue about.
20090210 03:46:21< Soliton> it's probably how you can so easily judge how wesnoth does and how it is supposed to work.
20090210 03:47:13< Soliton> i suggest you look for a native windows game to play. wesnoth's philosophy is obviously not for you.
20090210 03:48:29< zSensei> Well, pressing M for messaging fails to work if you CAPS on, or pressing SHIFT. I'll allow the shift part, but it obviously fails to handle case in shortcuts, which kind of goes against user friendless (an alien a term as ever to *nixers, I'm sure) as per the norm regarding shortcuts.
20090210 03:49:37< Soliton> well, you're the first to mention said norm.
20090210 03:49:43< zSensei> So, after following every bit of help available on the site, I still fail to get my maps to work, I'm thinking, this too must be the cause of a similarly trivial oversight.
20090210 03:50:02< Soliton> surely more enlightened windows users such as your self would have mentioned it before?
20090210 03:50:18< zSensei> Oh my god.
20090210 03:50:22< zSensei> <zSensei> <zSensei> You may start by tring ALT+F with or without caps-lock.
20090210 03:50:26< Soliton> or maybe nobody cared so far.
20090210 03:50:26< zSensei> How many times do I have to drive that into you?
20090210 03:50:45< Soliton> you mean if you say it enough times it becomes a norm?
20090210 03:51:01< Soliton> well, that fits into your thingking nicely, i suppose.
20090210 03:51:12< zSensei> Answer that please, does ALT+F or does it not bring up the file menu in most apps regardless of CAPS-LOCK's state?
20090210 03:51:21< zSensei> *nix or doze
20090210 03:51:35< zSensei> Please, the exact question. Don't dodge it,
20090210 03:51:49< Soliton> i'd have to test. the apps that i use don't have such a shortcut.
20090210 03:52:34< zSensei> Try a text editor. GIMP. anything.
20090210 03:52:36< zSensei> OpenOffice
20090210 03:52:52< zSensei> They don't have ALT+F? or ALT+anything?
20090210 03:53:02< zSensei> for menus?
20090210 03:53:16< Soliton> i don't use many GUI apps.
20090210 03:53:25< noy> zSensei: why is this even relevant?
20090210 03:53:55< Soliton> but it looks like many do have case insensitive shortcuts.
20090210 03:54:35< zSensei> lol.. There, then. Soliton was just insisting that such shortcuts are always case-senstivite, whereas infact they are not. ^^
20090210 03:54:43< Soliton> so maybe if more users are bothered by that we could change it.
20090210 03:55:06< Soliton> zSensei: and where did i insist on that?
20090210 03:55:07< noy> zSensei: again, why is it relevant?
20090210 03:56:07< Shadow_Master> because it is somehow related to a problem with a text editor.
20090210 03:56:48 * Shadow_Master . O o (or so it seems)
20090210 03:56:58< zSensei> lol <Soliton> well, you're the first to mention said norm.
20090210 03:57:09< Soliton> and so you are.
20090210 03:57:19< noy> zSensei: Please, the exact question. Don't dodge it,
20090210 03:57:27< Soliton> :-)
20090210 03:57:46< zSensei> Okay, let's reset. Make any map in the built-in editor.
20090210 03:58:01 * Soliton is not in the mood for resetting.
20090210 03:58:11< Shadow_Master> btw I'd recommend you that you choose a larger channel with more active people to spread the new norm though. ;)
20090210 03:58:14< noy> I just want my question answered. 
20090210 03:58:16< Soliton> goodwill from my side is used up.
20090210 03:58:40< zSensei> noy, do you play Wesnoth on Windows?
20090210 03:58:44< zSensei> asdfghjkl;'
20090210 03:58:48< noy> Does it matter?
20090210 03:58:57< Soliton> windows is the norm!
20090210 03:58:59< zSensei> oops sorry, cleaning my keyboard
20090210 03:58:59< noy> I'm curious why do you bring the matter up at all. 
20090210 03:59:55< zSensei> of what noy? The case sensitivity? Just to point how inflexible Wesnoth is!
20090210 04:00:09< noy> Uh thats not a reason why its inflexible
20090210 04:00:14< noy> thats a reason why its incomplete
20090210 04:00:42< noy> If it was inflexible, it means it can't be changed, but it can... its called "FEATURE REQUEST"
20090210 04:00:47< Soliton> it points out how close minded the users/developers of wesnoth are.
20090210 04:00:51< noy> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php
20090210 04:01:08< Soliton> because nobody noticed before.
20090210 04:01:10< zSensei> surely after 10s of public builds something that trivial must have been corrected?
20090210 04:01:14< Soliton> or was bothered by it.
20090210 04:01:22< Shadow_Master> Wesnoth is mainly developed by Unix users - however we have many Windows and MacOS X users (and also a few developers) who are perfectly comfortable with the current design.
20090210 04:01:42< noy> zSensei: prior to you making an idiotic public display about it, I have never heard anybody complain about it
20090210 04:01:55< noy> and I've been here longer than most
20090210 04:02:01< Shadow_Master> if something was considered an issue by the majority, odds are the core devs would already be aware since it's been running around since 2003
20090210 04:02:06< zSensei> because I can't get my map to have a preset gold value no matter what :( if it's something as asnine as line endings or case, I'll tear my kidneys out
20090210 04:02:44< Soliton> "because"
20090210 04:03:00< Soliton> to me that word always suggest a causal realtionship.
20090210 04:03:09< Soliton> but i guess i just don't get the norm.
20090210 04:03:57< zSensei> If somebody did bring it up, I'm sure they must have been suppressed by the prevalant mindset of those like Soliton :) "case insensitivity for shortcuts isn't the norm" and we're back to that debate.
20090210 04:04:14< noy> Oh **** off. 
20090210 04:04:37< noy> brb
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20090210 04:04:43< Soliton> right those that always quote imaginary statements and the like.
20090210 04:05:12< zSensei> Same to you, was waiting when the typical open-sourcer attitude would come out.
20090210 04:05:32< Soliton> which is what?
20090210 04:05:42< zSensei> & then you people wonder why none of your products don't have mass market appeal!
20090210 04:05:47< Soliton> testing out claims for their vailidity?
20090210 04:05:54< zSensei> double negative there, but nvm
20090210 04:05:55< Shadow_Master> if you are so upset about how we do things... go play WoW or something.
20090210 04:06:09< Soliton> i think you showing up here shows how much mass marjet appeal wesnoth has.
20090210 04:06:09< Shadow_Master> we certainly don't care about marketing
20090210 04:06:14< Soliton> market*
20090210 04:06:59< zSensei> I hate WoW.
20090210 04:07:05< zSensei> I like Wesnoth but hate the people behind it
20090210 04:07:16< Soliton> because you know them all.
20090210 04:07:28< zSensei> or, more specifically and less personally, the mindset behind it.
20090210 04:07:34< Soliton> you can see into their hearts from their shortcut design.
20090210 04:07:54< Shadow_Master> or from the faulty text editors from other operating systems...
20090210 04:08:25< zSensei> lol I didn't mean that. Nevermind ^^
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20090210 04:09:39< [Relic]> Hello :)
20090210 04:10:12< zSensei> Hey
20090210 04:10:34< [Relic]> :)
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20090210 04:13:54< noy> back
20090210 04:14:14< noy> zSensei: have you submitted a FR before?
20090210 04:15:19< Soliton> i'm afraid that would fall into the typical open-sourcer attitude. :-/
20090210 04:15:27< zSensei> No, because most of the things I had suggestions of improvement for are minor and UI related
20090210 04:15:38< noy> Oh god... "why it doesn't have mass market appeal?"
20090210 04:15:39< zSensei> the game rules are perfect so far, so
20090210 04:15:54< noy> apparently a lot of people disagree with that zSensei 
20090210 04:15:57< Soliton> i'm sure the balance could use improvement?
20090210 04:16:03< zSensei> oh shut up
20090210 04:16:13< noy> excuse me? 
20090210 04:16:14< zSensei> if my map had worked I wouldn't ever have set foot here :P
20090210 04:16:28< noy> you come on here acting like a troll
20090210 04:16:47< Soliton> but then we would have never found out about the norm of shortcut sensitivity!
20090210 04:16:55< noy> you make ridiculous claims based on extremely biased perspectives, and refuse to consider alternative arguments
20090210 04:17:10< zSensei> Fuck off noy, you're butting into a conversation that doesn't include you, unless you can be of some help
20090210 04:17:37< zSensei> Not again, Soliton
20090210 04:17:44< noy> Given I'm one of the longest serving developers you swear again and I'll kick you myself
20090210 04:18:06< Soliton> heh, i guess that is the typical closed-sourcer attitude?
20090210 04:18:13< zSensei> oh noes
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20090210 04:18:41< zSensei> Well fuck you, noy. and any other longest serving developer should they have the same attitude.
20090210 04:19:40< zSensei> I've probably been developing way before you were born :P
20090210 04:19:45< noy> zSensei: given you can't see how ignorant you, I don't see much of a point in your continuing invovement
20090210 04:20:17< noy> unlikely. 
20090210 04:20:29< zSensei> and Soliton, shortcut INsensitiviy has been the "norm" since the days of the 16KB Sinclair Spectrum :P
20090210 04:20:40< zSensei> case-insentivity
20090210 04:20:57< Soliton> zSensei: you've still not realised that i've accepted your claim have you?
20090210 04:21:33< zSensei> lol sorry then, but you keep bringing it up!
20090210 04:21:50< Sirp_> zSensei: so sorry, what's your problem? I can't make it out by reading the logs.
20090210 04:22:06< Soliton> well, got to keep mention the one good thing you brought into the discussion. ;-)
20090210 04:22:39< Sirp_> the problem is that keyboard shortcuts don't work if caps-lock is on?
20090210 04:23:22< zSensei> I'm not here to flame about anything at all, and no Sirp_, just can't get an editor-made map data to have a preset starting gold value by embedding it in between WML
20090210 04:24:44< zSensei> I just mentioned the shortcuts in passing in case it was a similarly overlooked problem, like line endings.
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20090210 04:25:26< noy> zSensei: its not an "overlooked problem" if its never been brought up before. 
20090210 04:25:40< Sirp_> okay, so have you submitted a feature request/bug report?
20090210 04:26:56< zSensei> I may now. was saving any input till after 1.6.0 was out
20090210 04:27:18< Sirp_> well you can always try the latest development release to see what is going on.
20090210 04:28:14< zSensei> Always been on the dev branch; only started playing Wesnoth since 1.5.8
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20090210 04:30:51< zSensei> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m250a4e68
20090210 04:31:06< zSensei> I just need that file the editor output to have preset gold
20090210 04:31:36< zSensei> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m101254d9 is not working; This scenario is invalid because it has no sides.
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20090210 04:40:22< Sirp_> zSensei: just posting a bug report with reproducible cases is the best way to get help. Coming here and being rude to our developers isn't so much.
20090210 04:41:34< zSensei> I didn't mean to be rude; just arguing with Soliton :P
20090210 04:41:35< zSensei> http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/
20090210 04:42:20< Soliton> did you try to fix the encoding of your scenario config yet?
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20090210 04:43:19< Sirp_> zSensei: ahhh easy, I got 9/10
20090210 04:43:37< zSensei> lol
20090210 04:44:00< zSensei> right now, everything's botched; I think removing the official multiplayer maps folder that one time messed up some cache or something; now nothing works
20090210 04:44:42< zSensei> even after restoring it right away of course
20090210 04:47:10< Soliton> dang got 9/10 as well.
20090210 04:51:15< zSensei> "if someone said they'd reformat your floppies you'd have no idea whether to run for it or not" lol 0/10
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20090210 05:02:19< Turuk_> Charming weather we're having
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20090210 13:38:21< nital> how did it happen that naga fighter looks more scary than naga myrmidon now?
20090210 13:38:52< zookeeper> it's not that hard to figure out.
20090210 13:46:32< nital> oh, come on, that was rhetorical question ;)
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20090210 13:47:16< zookeeper> i couldn't tell.
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20090210 14:09:33< Ivanovic> hi
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20090210 17:07:28< kogitov> Is there a convenient way to remove or extend the turn-limit on a single-player campaign? 
20090210 17:12:12< nital> turns="-1" in [scenario] section sets no limit on turns
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20090210 17:48:16< kogitov> Thanks.
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20090210 18:24:24< Andylee> hi
20090210 18:25:03< Andylee> is there a working network (internet) multiplayer function in the new 1.6 beta1 release?
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20090210 18:25:29< Andylee> hi ikarius
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20090210 18:28:30< Soliton> sure, like in any other version.
20090210 18:28:54< Andylee> is it also used by players?
20090210 18:29:46< Soliton> yes..
20090210 18:31:20< Andylee> hmm... I think I shall give it a try, shall I?
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20090210 18:57:56< Turuk> woohoo TSI is here
20090210 18:58:36 * thespaceinvader arrives in a puff of smoke
20090210 19:08:53< grzywacz> http://pycon.blogspot.com/2009/02/randall-munroe.html
20090210 19:08:53< grzywacz> ;p
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