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20090220 03:58:34< DDR> hello :)
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20090220 04:15:44< DDR> hm, busy today.
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20090220 05:37:00< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090220 06:38:54< Flower> hello, i search documents, for how to installed a server wesnoth on the system   Netbsd? 
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20090220 07:52:18< law_> hi, does anyone know what will cause repeated "Client disconncted" errors when trying to host a game?
20090220 07:55:20< law_> also, i'm getting "Connection timed out" when trying to connect to the 1.4 MP server
20090220 07:56:00< law_> is it just heavy traffic ?
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20090220 08:23:06< VurtualRuler98> law_: things you might want to try to be sure
20090220 08:23:26< VurtualRuler98> check your connection, make sure you aren't being stopped by angry routers.
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20090220 09:12:55< law_> VurtualRuler98: the problem went away after about 10 or 15 minutes
20090220 09:13:34< law_> strange thing though, it's never happened since i started playing 1.4 again
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20090220 11:18:09< Ivanovic> moin
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20090220 13:15:30< Soliton> Flower: well, build wesnothd from the source?
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20090220 15:34:18< Ape> When I create two units with canrecruit for some reason only one of them really can recrouit. Both do have that crown showing that they really are can "recruit".
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20090220 15:36:05< Soliton> that's because that's not supported.
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20090220 16:03:19< starshoorer> can someone help me with scenariocreating?
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20090220 16:05:41< Soliton> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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20090220 16:06:25< Smar> ghh.
20090220 16:06:47< Ivanovic> starshoorer: http://tinyurl.com/dyg88u
20090220 16:07:33< Ivanovic> with the amount of info you give, this i all help i am able to give so far...
20090220 16:10:30< starshoorer>  i followed the guide ScenarioCreatingSimple but it says "test-1" scenario not found although my scenario has the id test-1
20090220 16:12:15< Soliton> then you did not include that scenario.
20090220 16:14:17< starshoorer> i have ubuntu and pasted the scenario.cfg + map into the two folders maps and scenarios of my Test_campaign folder
20090220 16:15:04< Ivanovic> since you have them in those folders you got to include those folders
20090220 16:15:48< Ivanovic> {campaigns/FOLDERNAME/scenarios}
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20090220 16:16:57< starshoorer> in wich file do i have to write that?
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20090220 16:17:14< Ivanovic> in the campaign config
20090220 16:17:31< Soliton> needs to be ~campaigns for user made content.
20090220 16:18:59< Ivanovic> ah, right
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20090220 16:47:11< Soliton> oh nice, world conquest for 1.5.
20090220 16:51:17< Ken_Oh> menu bug affects it though, use the svn if you can
20090220 16:51:24< Ken_Oh> or 1.5.8
20090220 16:52:52< Ivanovic> or use huge resolutions...
20090220 16:52:54< Ivanovic> ;)
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20090220 17:20:04< Ape> When I play a game with multiple scenarios over internet the second and later scenarios are out of sync. What can I do?
20090220 17:26:47< Ape> It works on local computer and when we start from the second scenario.
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20090220 17:42:47< Ken_Oh> ape: there are a few bugs that could cause that
20090220 17:44:02< Ken_Oh> those bugs are fixed in the dev version. all you can do for the current stable version is have the first player send the savefile of the new scenario to each of the players
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20090220 17:48:46< Ape> Is there any information about when the 1.6.x will be released? Should I make my campaign for it instead of the current stable?
20090220 17:56:58< Soliton> yes.
20090220 17:58:13< Soliton> is the second scenario using a map or scenario generator when you get OOS?
20090220 17:59:12< Ape> The second scenario has some scripts, but the map is static
20090220 18:00:34< Soliton> scripts?
20090220 18:00:43< Soliton> what kind of OOS do you get?
20090220 18:00:48< Ape> scenario wml
20090220 18:01:09< Ape> placing some characters and there is also some moveto and die events
20090220 18:02:08< Ape> It says something like "Illegal command removed" and my friend (who is client) gets a message saying that the game is OOS.
20090220 18:02:22< Ape> Then I can't see his moves and he can't se my moves
20090220 18:05:34< Soliton> one illegal command message is normal when you advance to the next scenario. nothing to worry about there.
20090220 18:06:10< Soliton> do the side numbers of players change in the next scenario?
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20090220 18:15:06< Ape> I think they are the same
20090220 18:15:34< Ape> But we see the turns fully differently
20090220 18:15:54< Ape> it just skips the other players turn and I can be on turn 5 when the friend is only on the turn 3
20090220 18:16:56< Soliton> well, once you are out of sync anything can happen no use analyzing that.
20090220 18:18:03< Ape> We test it soon with the 1.5.10
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20090220 18:40:03< Ape> I compiled 1.5.10 sources with "scons all" and ran "scons install", but I can't find the main executable. I think it only compiled or installed wesnothd and docs.
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20090220 18:41:23< Unnheulu> can anyone enlighten me to the real differences between autotools and scons?
20090220 18:41:34< Ape> See the INSTALL-file on the sources
20090220 18:41:53< Unnheulu> i know they are different ways off installing, but how?
20090220 18:42:02< Unnheulu> what are the advantages of each?
20090220 18:43:00< Ape> scons seems to be simplier, easier to use and some times faster
20090220 18:43:35< Ape> autotools will great make-file that you have to make separately, but scons does everything with the same run
20090220 18:43:37< Unnheulu> I havnt tried scons, so i dont know about faster, but are the others intended to be easier for devs or the users?
20090220 18:43:57< Ape> I think it's easier for both
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20090220 19:00:58< cib0> users aren't expected to build their stuff themselves generally :p
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20090220 20:20:12< Ape> Seems that <R,G,B> doesn't work on 1.5.10 with messages. What can I use instead of it?
20090220 20:21:50< voris> A bug is filed.
20090220 20:22:11< voris> In the meantime, # and @ still work to create red and green.
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20090220 21:33:42< Ape> Anybody wanting to test my new multiplayer campaign? You need 1.5.10 and a campaign file (for custom characters): http://ape3000.com/hosted/uppi/uploads/troubled-20-2-22-25.tar.gz
20090220 21:34:07< Ape> Currently it has 3 good scenarios
20090220 21:34:43< Ape> Download that file and extract it to your userdata campaign folder
20090220 21:34:58< Ape> Then join the official dev-version server and my game called "Troubled Times"
20090220 21:36:40< Turuk> Sure why not
20090220 21:36:58< Ape> I will introduce new leveling system
20090220 21:37:57< Ape> But since I only have made the first three scenarios (of something like 10) and the first time you can interact with the leveling is in the end of 3rd scenario you can't really see it yet
20090220 21:38:46< Ape> The characters will not have either ordinary advancements or amla, but you can buy better stats with XP
20090220 21:39:09< Ape> Like +1 damage for melee weapons with 40 xp
20090220 21:39:37< Ape> The campaign also tells a deep story
20090220 21:39:55< Turuk> Your game has no open slots
20090220 21:40:01< Turuk> Never mind, you fixed it
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20090220 21:52:52< voris> What server are you running this on?
20090220 21:53:17< Ape> The official dev-version server
20090220 21:56:31< voris> Something other than "Join Official Server"?
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20090220 21:56:42< voris> (in 1.5.10+svn)
20090220 21:57:41< Ape> I'm running 1.5.10 (release). I don't know what is the server address
20090220 21:57:52< Ape> But it's the "join official" on my game
20090220 21:57:58< voris> ok
20090220 21:58:54< Soliton> +svn joins the trunk server.
20090220 21:59:07< voris> aha
20090220 21:59:30< Soliton> you need to change the version to test then you can log on whereever you want.
20090220 21:59:47< Soliton> need to use the right port then though.
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20090220 22:01:58< Ape> Please join the game. It's coop campaign for up to 3 players and we currently have 2. You can be the third.
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20090220 22:05:47< voris> Is that a compile option I feed to scons?
20090220 22:06:01< voris> Or is there a test tag you're saying I should target with svn?
20090220 22:06:45< voris> must be the former, I don't see a test tag. :)
20090220 22:06:53< Soliton> nah, you just have to edit the source.
20090220 22:07:23< Soliton> src/game_config.cpp
20090220 22:07:40< voris> oh! ok
20090220 22:09:52< cib0> Ape, still need a player?
20090220 22:09:59< Ape> sure
20090220 22:10:25< cib0> ive been wanting to test MP campaigns on 1.5.10 ever since it has been out
20090220 22:11:03< cib0> do i need to download something? unknown unit type
20090220 22:11:18< Ape> http://ape3000.com/hosted/uppi/uploads/troubled-20-2-22-25.tar.gz
20090220 22:11:35< Ape> Extract that to your userdata campaign folder
20090220 22:12:18< cib0> you should really switch to the new _main.cfg format :p
20090220 22:13:33< Ape> How does that work?
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20090220 22:15:08< voris> Rename Troubled_Times.cfg to _main.cfg and move it into the Troubled_Times directory.
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20090220 22:15:24< Ape> k
20090220 22:15:52< cib0> well, short form
20090220 22:16:16< cib0> also, you will have to include each .cfg and folder manually
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20090220 22:17:17< cib0> the advantage is that you only have to move a folder to move the campaign
20090220 22:17:25< rmrfslash> hi
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20090220 22:17:39< cib0> i have to build 1.5.10 again, brt
20090220 22:18:08< voris> So am I just changing const version_info wesnoth_version(VERSION); to const version_info wesnoth_version("test"); ?
20090220 22:18:25< voris> Or am I injecting test_version somewhere?
20090220 22:19:14< Soliton> just make it test.
20090220 22:19:15< voris> (or am I completely off base?) :)
20090220 22:19:17< voris> Ok.
20090220 22:19:51< Soliton> not sure if i've done that with this version_info thingy yet, maybe it'll complain.
20090220 22:21:12< Soliton> oh, there is a test_version, i see.
20090220 22:21:36< voris> Yeah, but not sure what I'd to to force it to use that.
20090220 22:22:26< Soliton> i wonder if that is even still used.
20090220 22:29:45< cib0> Ape, you quit?
20090220 22:30:09< Ape> The game ended. We were defeated
20090220 22:30:16< cib0> k
20090220 22:30:46< Ape> I can start it again, if there is players
20090220 22:33:50< cib0> well, there's me.. :p
20090220 22:33:58< cib0> hard to find players these days
20090220 22:34:20< voris> I'm still recompiling.
20090220 22:34:22< Ape> I'll do littlle modifications
20090220 22:34:26< voris> Slow machine. :)
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20090220 23:05:23< voris> Soliton: do you know which server/port I should use now that I've recompiled?
20090220 23:08:34< Soliton> voris: 14998
20090220 23:08:53< Soliton> MultiplayerServers on the wiki has a list.
20090220 23:09:25< voris> ahh
20090220 23:09:26< voris> thanks
20090220 23:14:00< voris> That page seems to say I should use 14999 for 1.5.10
20090220 23:19:17< Soliton> then you should. :-)
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20090220 23:20:25< voris> I did. :)
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