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20090323 15:15:19< |Hellrider|> i found a "bug" in one of the 1.6 mp maps
20090323 15:15:50< |Hellrider|> "the wilderlands" which is meant for 5 players is currently listed in the 4 players maps
20090323 15:19:23 * happygrue grumbles about people editing maps that they shouldn't...
20090323 15:19:31< happygrue> |Hellrider|: you are correct
20090323 15:20:06< |Hellrider|> it's a minor issue but it can be easily fixed in the next version
20090323 15:20:11< happygrue> sure, thanks
20090323 15:20:16< |Hellrider|> np
20090323 15:20:28< happygrue> I can't do it right at the moment - maybe you can file a bug reprot to make sure it gets done?
20090323 15:20:56< |Hellrider|> ehm i have never done it before, can you tell me where to report it?
20090323 15:21:18< happygrue> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/ReportingBugs
20090323 15:21:23< |Hellrider|> thanks :)
20090323 15:21:24< happygrue> it is good practice :)
20090323 15:21:38< happygrue> do it once and you'll do it again and help out the game I'm sure :)
20090323 15:21:56< |Hellrider|> ok i'm reading :)
20090323 15:32:04< |Hellrider|> happygrue, while registering or submitting a bug anonimously i get an error because my ip is blacklisted (probably because my ISP uses a NAT)
20090323 15:32:24< happygrue> blarg :(
20090323 15:32:30< happygrue> did you register an account?
20090323 15:32:31< |Hellrider|> i could post in the forums but i am not sure it is useful actually
20090323 15:32:33< happygrue> it is worth doing
20090323 15:32:43< happygrue> well, I will remember to do it
20090323 15:32:46< |Hellrider|> i tried to register but it fails because my ip is blacklisted
20090323 15:32:51< happygrue> ah
20090323 15:33:07< happygrue> don't worry about it - thanks for the report :)
20090323 15:33:13< |Hellrider|> np :)
20090323 15:34:35< happygrue> |Hellrider|: someone suggested using a cgiproxy
20090323 15:34:44< happygrue> but that means nothing to me
20090323 15:35:12< |Hellrider|> hmm
20090323 15:35:15< happygrue> or any other kind of free anonymous proxy
20090323 15:35:26< happygrue> so if you care about getting an account you can try that
20090323 15:35:28< |Hellrider|> yep i didn't consider that option
20090323 15:35:35< happygrue> or just posting in the forums or coming on here is fine :)
20090323 15:36:09< |Hellrider|> i honestly thinks it is annoying for people to read in a forum about these "bugs" :P
20090323 15:36:16< |Hellrider|> i'll try to find a proxy
20090323 15:36:21< happygrue> true ;)
20090323 15:36:58< happygrue> but easy to fix bugs are always more welcome than the other kind ;)
20090323 15:37:20< |Hellrider|> ok i'm trying an anonymous proxy :)
20090323 15:44:25< |Hellrider|> reported!
20090323 15:44:36< |Hellrider|> thanks for the tip
20090323 15:44:36< happygrue> great thanks :)
20090323 15:44:52< happygrue> GNA is best, as the bug usually gets sent to the 'right' person fastest
20090323 15:46:08< |Hellrider|> in this case it probably takes a few mins to fix it anyway :)
20090323 15:50:32< happygrue> |Hellrider|: ok fixed
20090323 15:50:49< happygrue> the bug report was just to get you hooked so that you'll do it again ;)
20090323 15:51:05< happygrue> also I was busy at the time,and I wanted to be reminded (or have someone reminded)
20090323 16:02:21< |Hellrider|> ok ;D
20090323 16:03:27< |Hellrider|> it took me 3 years to report the first bug... let's hope it doesn't take that long for next one (if any)
20090323 16:05:19< happygrue> if any... hehe ;)
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20090323 20:05:15< zookeeper> i'd suggest increasing some of the lvl2 outlaw XP limits. the trapper's especially is really low (65).
20090323 20:05:57< noy> sure
20090323 20:06:05< zookeeper> when the lvl3 outlaws were added the outlaws-shouldn't-be-as-good-as-loyalists thing was supposed to partially be addressed by somewhat higher XP limits
20090323 20:06:16< zookeeper> now they're on par or in many cases lower than for loyalists
20090323 20:10:02< noy> hmmm
20090323 20:10:20< _jbx_> well, specifically for the trapper, the low xp requirement was always a built in bonus for them
20090323 20:10:39< _jbx_> i'm not too sure about the fugutive and the thief
20090323 20:11:03< zookeeper> how about trapper 65->85, outlaw 77->95 and bandit 70->87 or something like that?
20090323 20:11:53< _jbx_> why does the trapper need to be raised again?
20090323 20:14:02< _jbx_> that is about 14XP @70%....I can't stress enough how often the low xp of the trapper has been toted as a feature for that unit
20090323 20:14:15< _jbx_> about 14 additional xp *
20090323 20:14:20< zookeeper> oh, ok. i wasn't aware.
20090323 20:16:07< _jbx_> well, everyone things the poacher is the worst unit in the game :P  but his low xp requirements are really awesome
20090323 20:16:13< _jbx_> everyone thinks*
20090323 20:16:32< happygrue> I think the longbowman is still better than the trapper, at the current XP levels
20090323 20:18:37< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, i hope you don't mind me locking that thread ;)
20090323 20:19:12< thespaceinvader> no worries
20090323 20:19:19< thespaceinvader> i was debating whether to do that or not...
20090323 20:20:47< zookeeper> i've always thought the trapper is a good unit, what with decent melee and all
20090323 20:21:09< happygrue> longbow has the same melee damage
20090323 20:21:15< happygrue> and more ranged by a fair bit
20090323 20:21:35< happygrue> poacher line is worse at damage, but better mobility/def and low xp
20090323 20:21:54< happygrue> though xp for level 2 units is not something I care enough about to argue ;)
20090323 20:22:24< happygrue> bumping it up wouldn't bother me, but I don't know for what exactly it would matter?
20090323 20:23:11< zookeeper> for realism and stylistic reasons
20090323 20:23:34< happygrue> well, perhaps that ;)
20090323 20:23:54< _jbx_> aww, locking the disgruntled thread?  it was just getting fun
20090323 20:24:11< happygrue> I wasn't going to lock it until the OP had a chance to write back
20090323 20:24:26< happygrue> (so locking is fine now :) )
20090323 20:25:00< _jbx_> locking may be fine, but the flames were just beginning !
20090323 20:25:34< happygrue> I was amused at "putting wesnoth on the shelf"
20090323 20:25:36< happygrue> ?
20090323 20:25:40< _jbx_> seriously 
20090323 20:25:41< happygrue> wth do you go about doing that?
20090323 20:25:56< happygrue> and he even put it next to civ 4 :P
20090323 20:26:00< happygrue> funny guy
20090323 20:26:38< _jbx_> what a selfish dude, probably never done an ounce of work in his life, let alone work on a game
20090323 20:27:25< happygrue> maybe he is a developer of UFO:AI, and this was a drive-by or something
20090323 20:27:26< _jbx_> "oh, I hate these free games"
20090323 20:27:40< happygrue> spray some junk on our walls and peel rubber
20090323 20:27:51< happygrue> heh
20090323 20:28:59< happygrue> Sometimes I think of the forums as one more webcomic that I check regularly.  ;)
20090323 20:29:23< thespaceinvader> aheh, nice viewpoint =D
20090323 20:29:39< thespaceinvader> i wonder what that webcomic would look like
20090323 20:29:47< thespaceinvader> OOH, the portrait team could draw it
20090323 20:29:51< happygrue> haha
20090323 20:29:52< thespaceinvader> if we had the time >.<
20090323 20:30:01< happygrue> wow, wesnoth comics
20090323 20:30:02< _jbx_> well, I think mostly posters like that are just kids who don't know any better...they have an iPod, Tivo, 2 computers, etc. and get bored fast
20090323 20:30:14< happygrue> no, it would be like 8 bit theater I think
20090323 20:30:19< happygrue> with art from in game
20090323 20:30:30< thespaceinvader> someone tried that once before
20090323 20:30:33< happygrue> heh
20090323 20:30:34< thespaceinvader> it did not go well
20090323 20:30:39< happygrue> you don't say?  ;)
20090323 20:34:15< Blueblaze> _jbx_: somehow I think they have a wii and an xbox 360 too
20090323 20:34:36< _jbx_> yes, PS3 too
20090323 21:10:30< _jbx_> yea! Mipe posted again in 3 threads complaining about the same problem.  Now we get to be extra nice to him!
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20090323 22:55:36< Shadow_Master> ho, higher game is back! :/
20090323 22:57:54< Sirp> nice. :)
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