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20090324 17:27:53< happygrue> Soliton: thanks for setting up the 1.6 lobby echo
20090324 17:28:15< happygrue> btw, I am not as happy with the cyan coloring as I thought I would be, can I bug you to make it just a bit darker somewhow?
20090324 17:29:15< Soliton> happygrue: is nick color and chat color both bad for you?
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20090324 17:51:15< Shadow_Master> looks fine here on white
20090324 17:54:13< happygrue> Soliton: the color looks fine, it is just not as different (to my bad eyes) as I would like for it to be easily readable
20090324 17:54:38< happygrue> in other words, I find I am still having trouble following text easily, because I end up reading server stats in between
20090324 17:54:54< happygrue> it is 'fine' it just would be better (for me) to have it somewhat more distinct
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20090324 18:04:38< Soliton> happygrue: i'm asking because nick and chat have different colors.
20090324 18:09:12< happygrue> Soliton: yes, the nick doesn't really stand out much either, but if the text where clear I don't think it would be an issue
20090324 18:10:19< happygrue> Soliton: it is also pretty minor... I hesitated to even bring it up
20090324 18:10:42< happygrue> but since we have color, may as well make it as good as possible :)
20090324 18:11:15< Soliton> happygrue: so rather blue or bold blue?
20090324 18:11:28< happygrue> the main thing that I do is occasionally tab over and try to figure out what has been said in the past 5 minutes, so when looking for that all I care about is that what is 'text' is as clear as possible.
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20090324 18:11:37< happygrue> blue is great, bold blue is also great
20090324 18:11:45< happygrue> if one looks better for you then go with that one
20090324 18:11:57< Soliton> they look the same. :-P
20090324 18:11:57< happygrue> bold blue if I have to pick one
20090324 18:12:30< happygrue> at least until I change my mind and bother you again :P
20090324 18:13:45< happygrue> nicks could be blue, or anything really.
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20090324 19:05:07< voris> non-bold blue tends to be harder to read than bold blue to me.
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20090324 20:35:25< happygrue> Soliton: looks great, thanks
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20090324 21:20:14< happygrue> Baufo: was it you who implemented selecting the game a user is in when you click on their name?
20090324 21:20:34< Baufo> happygrue, yes
20090324 21:20:39< happygrue> well done :)
20090324 21:20:43< Baufo> thanks :)
20090324 21:20:43< happygrue> great feature
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20090324 21:29:33< _jbx_> there is one small problem with that click that switches to show what game the player is in
20090324 21:29:54< _jbx_> you can't double click a name to send a PM to that player, since the player list re-organizes itself
20090324 21:30:01< _jbx_> you end up sending the pm to the wrong player
20090324 21:30:06< _jbx_> i've done it several times already
20090324 21:30:34< happygrue> interesting
20090324 21:30:50< happygrue> I still haven't tried to do the click-whispering
20090324 21:30:59< happygrue> I keep forgetting ;)
20090324 21:31:55< happygrue> so single click to select, then double click to send a message, is that how it works?
20090324 21:32:25< happygrue> _jbx_: any idea what would be better?  or is it a question of just getting used to the new interface?
20090324 21:33:29< _jbx_> well, it would be nice to either A) recognize the difference between a single click and a double click, or  B) not reorganize the order of the player list with a single click
20090324 21:33:39< _jbx_> that is b )
20090324 21:33:42< _jbx_> not sunglasses guy
20090324 21:34:29< Baufo> so only reorganize on double click?
20090324 21:35:31< _jbx_> Baufo: for example, if I see a name I want to whisper, I double click where that name is...but after the first click it re organized the list, and the NEW name in that slot gets the dialogue box for the whisper
20090324 21:35:54< Baufo> oh, I see
20090324 21:36:45< Baufo> well, I suppose this should be fixed then
20090324 21:37:08< Baufo> so that the whisper dialog appears for the old name
20090324 21:40:13< happygrue> that sounds good to me
20090324 21:40:39< _jbx_> heh, i've had to make some awkward "sorry wrong user" apologies 
20090324 21:41:57< happygrue> hehe, people have done that to me and I wondered why
20090324 21:42:19 * happygrue whispers to Baufo about how lame jb is
20090324 21:42:29< happygrue> er, haha
20090324 21:42:47< happygrue> I was trying to make it broken, but it wasn't
20090324 21:42:58 * happygrue whispers to jb about how lame jb is
20090324 21:43:00< happygrue> there we go :)
20090324 21:43:51< _jbx_> wow, i must really be lame then, it says so right there!
20090324 21:43:56< _jbx_> why would it lie?
20090324 21:49:53< happygrue> _jbx_: dunno.  But if it did I would blame the RNG.
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20090324 23:24:53< happygrue> Soliton: Devas seems to have warranted himself a ban
20090324 23:25:42< Soliton> sure. i've just kicked him. do as you please.
20090324 23:26:16< happygrue> Soliton: I'm not sure how to do that after he's left
20090324 23:26:48< Soliton> tell me time and reason and i'll do it.
20090324 23:27:28< _ping_> well devas uses dynamic ip iirc and he have been extremely unpleasent multiple times
20090324 23:27:52< _ping_> anyway how long will the 1.4 server stay active?
20090324 23:28:00< happygrue> 1.4 log about half an hour ago.  Spamming profanity and racial slurs, especially directed at moderator(s?).
20090324 23:28:04< happygrue> I see
20090324 23:28:48< Soliton> yes, i saw that and kicked him i just have no more time to deal with him.
20090324 23:29:59< _ping_> anyway happygrue unless subnet ban is working there is no chance to ban him for more than a second :)
20090324 23:30:51< grzywacz> Add a captcha asking "are you Devas?"
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20090324 23:32:36< happygrue> Soliton:  don't worry about it
20090324 23:33:03< happygrue> _ping_: what is the long term option then?
20090324 23:33:34< happygrue> can we stop him in any way on 1.6?
20090324 23:33:46< Soliton> well, Devas can be banned his IPs aren't that random and he actually did only come back once after the kick and is gone now.
20090324 23:34:06< Soliton> on 1.6 we can turn off unregistered user login and ban by account.
20090324 23:34:19< Soliton> that should be pretty tough to get around.
20090324 23:36:59< happygrue> good.
20090324 23:37:37< happygrue> well, that would be registering a new account to rejoin?
20090324 23:37:57< happygrue> oh, if we can ban the IPs then I see
20090324 23:58:00< Soliton> btw, why is the monster side on the wilderlands considered a player now?
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