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20090302 01:02:34< Glorfindel_> I find myself plotting the destruction of Uria
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20090302 02:42:41< Turuk_> Ken_Oh, around?
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20090302 02:48:48< Ken_Oh> here
20090302 02:48:51< Ken_Oh> kind of
20090302 02:49:15< Turuk_> Ok, when you have a moment
20090302 02:49:17< Turuk_> *ding*
20090302 02:49:22< Turuk_> You've got mail.
20090302 02:49:37< Shadow_Master> me?
20090302 02:49:48< Shadow_Master> ah, this is not #wesnoth-umc-dev . damn
20090302 02:49:48< Turuk_> Ken_Oh :)
20090302 02:50:09< Ken_Oh> k
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20090302 02:58:41< Ken_Oh> turuk, i'd be interested but i'm still pretty far away from being ready for that, in a month or so i might be at that point
20090302 02:58:46< Glorfindel_> hi
20090302 02:59:37< Turuk_> Fair enough, I just thought I would offer it to you given your Wesband work.  Let me know when you think you are far enough along though.
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20090302 03:03:37< Ken_Oh> will do, thanks!
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20090302 03:26:53< Soliton> JW1: can you run python scripts?
20090302 03:28:07< Soliton> JW1: btw, sorry but i had to wipe the addon server again just now. you'll have to upload again.
20090302 03:29:23< Glorfindel_> I guess I'd better upload as well (its my only backup of my campaign)
20090302 03:30:15< Glorfindel_> add-on rejected: you did not specify the type of addon in the pbl file
20090302 03:30:20< Glorfindel_> hmmm
20090302 03:30:32 * Glorfindel_ goes to google
20090302 03:30:45< Shadow_Master> Glorfindel_: btw, if you know how to use SVN and can create a SF.net account, we at wesnoth-umc-dev have (probably) no problem in hosting your add-on in our repository
20090302 03:31:25< Shadow_Master> Glorfindel_: IftU 1.11.1 released btw
20090302 03:32:45< JW1> Soliton: regarding python, I can do it, but need instructions generally
20090302 03:33:22< Soliton> JW1: because the reason that eom is not on units.wesnoth.org is because the script generating that chokes on it.
20090302 03:34:08< JW1> ah I see
20090302 03:34:13< Soliton> and i'm not that interested in trying to fix UMC i can't even really fix.
20090302 03:35:34< JW1> what exactly would I need to change?
20090302 03:36:07< Soliton> if i knew i'd tell you... ;-)
20090302 03:36:16< JW1> fair enough :p
20090302 03:36:21< Soliton> i'll run it in a bit and paste the error.
20090302 03:36:33< Soliton> the script is wmlunits.
20090302 03:36:48< JW1> okay, thanks
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20090302 03:54:17< Soliton> JW1:  DEFENSE_ANIM:30: Mismatched closing tag [/defend], expected [/unit_type]
20090302 03:54:17< Soliton>  from /home/soliton/projects/wesnoth/umc-1.6/campaigns/Era_of_Myths/units/vampires/a1 Blood Apprentice.cfg:16
20090302 03:54:59< JW1> is that the only error?
20090302 03:55:08< Soliton> well, the first anyway. ;-)
20090302 03:55:12< JW1> hehe
20090302 03:55:47< JW1> does wmlunits ship with the game?
20090302 03:55:50< Soliton> there is some macro stuff mangled into the description of the unit.
20090302 03:56:11< Soliton> depends on the packager it might come with the windows binary.
20090302 03:56:44< Soliton> funny that the game doesn't complain there.
20090302 03:57:21< JW1> it does come with the game: I will have to run it myself sometime when I can devote the time to making the changes
20090302 03:58:01< Soliton> well, make or not the missing newline in the description of the blood apprentice.
20090302 03:58:11< Soliton> note*
20090302 03:59:03< Soliton> well, looks like that was actually it.
20090302 03:59:34< Soliton> if you can upload with that change i can put eom on units.w.o before i forget again... ;-)
20090302 03:59:57< JW1> ok, looking at the .cfg
20090302 04:01:57< JW1> hmm...I can't see what it's referencing
20090302 04:01:59< Soliton> ok some images are missing from the resulting page but i guess you can work that then out from looking at the page. probably some windows path (\ vs /) issues or so.
20090302 04:02:21< Soliton> JW1: look at the description= of the unit.
20090302 04:02:36< Soliton> JW1: it has "{DEFENSE_ANIM "vampires/blood_apprentice.png" "vampires/blood_apprentice.png" skeleton-hit.wav }" on the same line.
20090302 04:02:53< JW1> ok, fixed
20090302 04:03:37< JW1> uploading in a moment
20090302 04:04:10< JW1> done
20090302 04:05:01< Soliton> cool.
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20090302 04:22:23< Soliton> JW1: it's on units.w.o now. still a good idea to try that script yourself though since it throws a ton of warnings.
20090302 04:23:36< JW1> Soliton: okay
20090302 04:23:47< JW1> thanks
20090302 04:34:26< JW1> :D
20090302 04:34:39< JW1> Soliton: thanks a great deal; it is beautiful :)
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20090302 08:34:18< dfranke> looking for one more for a 3v3 on 1.4.
20090302 08:34:54< dfranke> me, WP, 5dPZ, Bast, maliR so far.
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20090302 13:01:58< Ken_Oh> zoo, if you're up, i was playing around with BoL and saw all of the shopkeeper icons are broken (with the peasant at work icon)
20090302 13:07:19< Ken_Oh> ah, they're still using the author-based portrait paths
20090302 13:16:13< zookeeper> Ken_Oh, argh, thanks. i forgot.
20090302 13:17:41< Ken_Oh> np
20090302 13:21:02< zookeeper> that much for the server wipe getting rid of old broken content -.-
20090302 13:33:39< zookeeper> fixed now
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20090302 15:54:56< A_Guy> Am I the only one for who the 1.5.11 servers aren't working?
20090302 15:55:53< Shadow_Master> A_Guy: MP?
20090302 15:56:09< A_Guy> Shadow_Master: Yeah, and the add-on server.
20090302 15:57:15< Shadow_Master> works for me (tm)
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20090302 15:58:11< Shadow_Master> check your firewall settings
20090302 15:58:31< A_Guy> Okay.
20090302 16:01:56< A_Guy> YES!
20090302 16:02:01< A_Guy> You're the best, Shadow_Master!
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20090302 16:08:38< mib_n90fdtv0> Hi, does anyone know what is the website for the online version (unofficial) of Battle of Wesnoth - 
20090302 16:08:56< mib_n90fdtv0> it was posted in Wesnoth forum but .. can't find it now 
20090302 16:09:13< zookeeper> what on earth is "the online version (unofficial) of Battle of Wesnoth"?
20090302 16:09:43< Shadow_Master> ladder?
20090302 16:10:37< A_Guy> ladder.subversiva.org
20090302 16:17:26< A_Guy> Well, add-ons won't let me download now, but otherwise, everything is fine.
20090302 16:17:46< A_Guy> mib_n90fdtv0, you there?
20090302 16:18:14< mib_n90fdtv0> yep
20090302 16:18:28< mib_n90fdtv0> it's not the ladder website i was thinking about
20090302 16:18:54< mib_n90fdtv0> actually I didn't know that one - the one I have in mind is more like an online implementation of bfw 
20090302 16:19:37< Shadow_Master> it probably does not exist yet. The mainline version's in-game MP interface is probably good enough for most people
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20090302 16:43:08< mib_n90fdtv0> found it > http://www.denizengames.com/grandstrategy/denizen.html
20090302 16:43:31< mib_n90fdtv0> it was renames "Battle for Tidestone "
20090302 16:43:40< mib_n90fdtv0> which made it quite difficult to find ...
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20090302 16:44:32< mib_n90fdtv0> anyway ... it's broken - I can't help but laugh at the irony of this
20090302 16:45:51< mib_n90fdtv0> twas from this thread http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=21807
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20090302 18:53:23< A_Guy> I wish I knew how to design good maps.
20090302 18:53:43< A_Guy> I mean, in my campaign, the only thing I can think of for a map is some forests and hills randomly placed.
20090302 18:55:16< Shadow_Master> define "good". Some maps can be considered good for their balance. Others can be considered aesthetically pleasing. It's difficult to make maps that fall under both categories.
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20090302 19:15:03< A_Guy> I'm looking for a map that gives decent strategic options while not being just forests and hills.
20090302 19:15:20< A_Guy> Also, it's kinda near a city, so I would try to put some desert, but...
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20090302 19:20:18< A_Guy> Hello, Emperor.
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20090302 19:39:35< A_Guy> So many people... yet none of them are speaking...
20090302 19:40:51< Elvish_Pillager> Eheu! Num vocem audire voluisti?!
20090302 19:42:48< A_Guy> ...come again?
20090302 19:43:23< Elvish_Pillager> Well, maps typically also have some water
20090302 19:43:50< Elvish_Pillager> and around a city, you can vary it up with castle or its equivalents and extra villages
20090302 19:45:26< A_Guy> Ah, a river is going through the city, farms are near the rivers, and the city has some villages and those nice-looking forests that were recently added to the map maker.
20090302 19:45:41< Elvish_Pillager> that's the idea.
20090302 19:46:04< Elvish_Pillager> cities are often built around rivers, it's good for the economy :)
20090302 19:46:30< A_Guy> Ah, I see.
20090302 19:46:45< A_Guy> Perhaps I should add a port.
20090302 19:47:01< Elvish_Pillager> Perhaps you should add a starboard.
20090302 19:47:17< A_Guy> :) I get it.
20090302 19:47:54< A_Guy> I'm going to be so cruel to the innocent peasants there...
20090302 19:48:26< Elvish_Pillager> flood their farms?
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20090302 19:49:47< A_Guy> No, you see, a certain group has control over the city by forcibly controlling them.
20090302 19:50:04< A_Guy> And there just happens to be a device that requires the sacrifice of a unit.
20090302 19:50:15< A_Guy> Now, I just store and unstore the peasants, and the AI does the rest...
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20090302 20:13:24< A_Guy> Hah, I have ReferenceWML bookmarked...
20090302 20:13:53< Ken_Oh> me2
20090302 20:14:27< Ken_Oh> but now i usually just type into my browser eventwml or internalactionswml to bring up the page i want
20090302 20:14:33< A_Guy> Me too.
20090302 20:14:49< A_Guy> Right now, I'm making a code that would find the highest value in an array.
20090302 20:14:56< Ken_Oh> coll
20090302 20:15:18< Elvish_Pillager> yeah, no sense having ReferenceWML bookmarked when you always want to go directly to the subpages :P
20090302 20:15:34< Elvish_Pillager> right now, I'm fixing bugs in a formula AI
20090302 20:18:51< A_Guy> I have it bookmarked for when I don't remember the name of some subpages, like IntroWML.
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20090302 22:30:07< A_Guy> Wow.
20090302 22:30:17< A_Guy> I never knew that start-of-scenario saves could be used like that.
20090302 22:31:01< Elvish_Pillager> used how?
20090302 22:31:25< A_Guy> To test changes that you've applied to a scenario.
20090302 22:32:56< Elvish_Pillager> oh, they work for that?
20090302 22:34:02< A_Guy> Yeah, I just found out.
20090302 22:34:18< A_Guy> I love Wesnoth.
20090302 22:34:33< Elvish_Pillager> :/
20090302 22:35:09< Elvish_Pillager> I would love Wesnoth if campaign creation wasn't as much a matter of working around Wesnoth bugs and quirks as it was of design.
20090302 22:35:59< A_Guy> Yes, it works!
20090302 22:36:10< A_Guy> ...so you hate Wesnoth?
20090302 22:36:18< Elvish_Pillager> ...no
20090302 22:36:25< Elvish_Pillager> I hate some bits of it
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20090302 22:38:38< Elvish_Pillager> ...like the load times
20090302 22:38:38< A_Guy> Yeah, I hate that as well.
20090302 22:38:39< A_Guy> Ha, EE rips you off for a shadow mage.
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20090302 22:39:58< A_Guy> My script to find the highest variable in an array works.
20090302 22:40:11< A_Guy> I feel so smar.
20090302 22:40:14< A_Guy> smart*
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20090302 22:58:57< A_Guy> Why is it that whenever I have the name of a highwayman randomly generated, there's a 50% chance that it's named Add?
20090302 22:59:16< A_Guy> Or of anything in the highwayman line, for that matter.
20090302 22:59:29< A_Guy> I count 7 of my highwaymen in NR with the name Add.
20090302 23:00:01< Corvvs> that happens with bowmen too
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