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20090310 00:29:55< Elvish_Pillager> zookeeper: can you interpret this? in a moveto event with [filter][wml_filter][ai_vars] multi_unit_core=true [/][/][/], storing the unit and printing its $unit.ai_vars.multi_unit_core gives (null)0.
20090310 00:30:09< Shadow_Master> zookeeper was eaten by a grue.
20090310 00:30:13< Elvish_Pillager> whoops
20090310 00:30:27< Elvish_Pillager> Well, can you interpret this for me, O Shadow Master?
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20090310 00:30:56< Shadow_Master> no idea. I don't handle formulas well atm and I'm busy atm too
20090310 00:31:18< Elvish_Pillager> this isn't about the formula AI at all
20090310 00:31:34< Elvish_Pillager> ...I think it isn't...
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20090310 00:31:48< Elvish_Pillager> Dragonking: could this have anything to do with the AI, or is it purely a WML issue?
20090310 00:32:24< Dragonking> What is "true" thing?
20090310 00:32:36< Dragonking> Use 1 or 0
20090310 00:32:40< Elvish_Pillager> probably the string "true"
20090310 00:32:43< Elvish_Pillager> why would I do that?
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20090310 00:33:14< Dragonking> Why would you use true ?
20090310 00:33:20< Elvish_Pillager> I don't mean "1", I mean "true"! 
20090310 00:33:36< Elvish_Pillager> It is TRUE that the unit is a multi-unit core. It is not ONE that the unit is a multi-unit core.
20090310 00:34:09< Elvish_Pillager> anyway, could you answer the question?
20090310 00:35:29< valer> scons thinks that I don't have SDL_net when I try to compile trunk :/
20090310 00:35:50< Dragonking> Elvish_Pillager: I did.
20090310 00:35:57< valer> I have 64-bit Fedora
20090310 00:35:57< Dragonking> Your true is evaluated to null
20090310 00:36:11< Dragonking> In game press f and write true
20090310 00:36:37< Dragonking> It was null to begin with, storing has nothing to do with it.
20090310 00:37:29< Elvish_Pillager> Dragonking: but what does the AI have to do with it?
20090310 00:37:36< Elvish_Pillager> It's the WML value "true"?
20090310 00:37:43< Elvish_Pillager> also, can I not store strings in unit variables?
20090310 00:37:55< Dragonking> Sure. 'true'
20090310 00:38:18< Dragonking> Unit variables are evaluated formulas
20090310 00:38:59< Dragonking> So you can for example specify vector of locations for a unit like   important_places=[ loc(1,1), loc(2,2), ...]
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20090310 00:39:43< Elvish_Pillager> Dragonking: okay, but how will that show up in WML?
20090310 00:40:13< Dragonking> I don't get your question.
20090310 00:40:38< Elvish_Pillager> okay, in WML I have [ai_vars] multi_unit_core=true [/ai_vars] when I create the unit.
20090310 00:40:47< Dragonking> It is equal to null
20090310 00:40:53< Elvish_Pillager> what do I have to do - [ai_vars] multi_unit_core="'true'" [/ai_vars] ?
20090310 00:40:58< Dragonking> true is not a valid formula
20090310 00:41:52< Dragonking> Elvish_Pillager:  multi_core_unit='true'
20090310 00:42:02< Elvish_Pillager> Dragonking: how awkward.
20090310 00:42:12< Dragonking> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/FormulaAI#Data_Types
20090310 00:42:17< Elvish_Pillager> You see, I want to store directions as AI variables.
20090310 00:42:29< Elvish_Pillager> In the WML, they have to be "n", "ne", etc.
20090310 00:42:41< Elvish_Pillager> in the AI, they have to be "'n'", "'ne'", etc.
20090310 00:42:51< Elvish_Pillager> So I'll have to be converting back and forth between them.
20090310 00:44:30< Dragonking> That's how stings look like in formula.
20090310 00:51:47< valer> Bah, I had the wrong devel package installed.
20090310 00:52:05< Elvish_Pillager> okay, it was simple enough to write a macro to do that.
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20090310 00:59:47< valer> Scons error messages aren't very helpful. I wonder if cmake is better.
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20090310 05:13:16< kerlo> So, I just realized that being faster than your enemy doesn't mean you can run away.
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20090310 09:38:45< Ivanovic> moin
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20090310 12:20:13< Bodsda> Hi, im getting an unknown scenario error when trying to play a campaign im attempting to make, if you would be kind enough to provide some help, ive pastebinned the _main.cfg, the scenario.cfg and an ls of my directory structures respectively: http://pastebin.com/f47e4058b     http://pastebin.com/f3b5a8df7    http://pastebin.com/m357426f0
20090310 12:21:47< Turuk> ok well
20090310 12:22:47< Shadow_Master> Bodsda: the define.
20090310 12:22:54< Shadow_Master>      define=CAMPAIGN_Rise_of_the_Elves
20090310 12:22:59< Shadow_Master> #ifdef CAMPAIGN_SKELETON
20090310 12:23:05< Bodsda> Shadow_Master: ah, damn :)
20090310 12:23:19< Turuk> I posted some changes on pastebin Bodsda
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20090310 12:24:03< Bodsda> Turuk: linky?
20090310 12:24:13< Turuk> Just refresh your pastebin page for _main.cfg
20090310 12:25:25< Turuk> same for your scenario.cfg
20090310 12:25:40< Bodsda> its not responding...
20090310 12:25:40< Bodsda> Shadow_Master: changed, but still the unkown scenario error
20090310 12:25:58< Turuk> http://pastebin.com/m462bb027
20090310 12:26:06< Turuk> http://pastebin.com/m378ee748
20090310 12:26:31< Bodsda> im having internet issues (be back soon)
20090310 12:28:58< Bodsda> Turuk: those pastebins seem to be invalid, you need to specify your name at the bottom of the page
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20090310 12:30:33< Turuk> what?!
20090310 12:30:41< Turuk> They work just fine for me
20090310 12:31:21< Turuk> And I did specify my name, thanks, I'm familiar with it.  I may or may not have used it once or twice before, which I will neither confirm nor deny.  You won't read the log but BAH
20090310 12:31:40< Turuk> Why help people
20090310 12:34:19 * Shadow_Master can't find an issue. Shadow_Master moves onto other stuff.
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20090310 13:02:47< Bodsda> Turuk: back, sorry about that
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20090310 15:30:03< henkka-> hey
20090310 15:30:36< henkka-> I just noticed that one of archmage's idle animations doesnt have female 
20090310 15:34:47< zookeeper> known
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20090310 18:42:38< Ivanovic> hi
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20090310 20:06:46< keb> is there any way to build and install only the languages i need?  
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20090310 20:09:12< Soliton> not easily i don't think.
20090310 20:09:27< Soliton> short on space?
20090310 20:10:05< keb> time
20090310 20:10:17< keb> and slow machine lol
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20090310 21:06:24< keb> hmm i guess the language part is not that significant in the build. i just hate wasted work
20090310 21:07:49< Soliton> like making an option that 0.1 percent of our users would use? :-P
20090310 21:08:50< keb> we only have 1000 users?
20090310 21:09:29< Soliton> well, you're not the very first to ask for such an option.
20090310 21:10:11< keb> hehe
20090310 21:12:57< keb> maybe on the os packages that optimization is taken care of anyway
20090310 21:19:57< Soliton> on debian you can install localepurge to delete locale files you don't need.
20090310 21:20:19< Soliton> that's not integrated into the packager though.
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20090310 21:32:38< cjhopman> so i just finished UtBS and I loved it. what other campaigns are similar?
20090310 21:32:46< zookeeper> IftU
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20090310 21:35:24< cjhopman> zookeeper: thanks
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20090310 21:43:39< kerlo> Note to self: It's not a good idea to leave a powerful unit alone in enemy territory.
20090310 21:44:07< keb> !
20090310 21:44:34< Soliton> it wasted all the nice XP?
20090310 21:50:12< keb> i prefer powerful units with high movement points and skirmish ability :)
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20090310 21:59:32< kerlo> Well, this is the Heir to the Throne campaign, I think, and I got the trident for one of my units.
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20090310 22:29:36< keb> trident? is that a weapon that one of the merman had
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20090310 23:02:37< Elvish_Pillage2> cjhopman: don't listen to him! IftU is _supposed_ to be similar to UtBS but it really isn't. I guess it's the _most_ similar other campaign, but really, no other campaign is like UtBS.
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20090310 23:53:03< Ivanovic> n8
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