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20090316 01:36:42< Ivanovic> n8
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20090316 03:16:43< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090316 03:18:05< Blueblaze> [Relic], hey!
20090316 03:18:07< Blueblaze> what are you up to
20090316 03:18:12< [Relic]> not much
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20090316 04:17:50< keb> i hate those saurian skirmishers
20090316 04:18:01< keb> taking out my loyal units :(
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20090316 05:10:46< Adrian`> anyone here?
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20090316 05:18:12< Adrian`> how do i send messages in multiplayer
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20090316 09:14:48< Ivanovic> moin
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20090316 09:41:15< Adrian`> I'm playing
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20090316 11:03:01< henkka-> hello
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20090316 11:58:43< henkka-> how can I undroid 
20090316 11:58:44< henkka-> myself
20090316 11:58:47< henkka-> if I accidentally droided myself?
20090316 11:58:48< henkka-> :D
20090316 11:58:58< henkka-> nevermind got it right by accident
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20090316 14:00:14< nihil-01> hi on the homepage of wesnoth u can read, the stable version 1.6 is incoming this week. is that realy  true?... why is the version 1.6 60MB lager then the version 1.4?
20090316 14:10:53< Soliton> more stuff.
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20090316 14:16:03< nihil-01> is the system require changed for wesnoth 1.6?
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20090316 14:21:23< zookeeper> not much, i guess.
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20090316 16:27:42< Ivanovic> hi
20090316 16:29:26< mysticspiral> hi ivan
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20090316 16:32:07< mysticspiral> didn't play wesnoth since version 1.4 i'm curious about the new version
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20090316 18:56:36< aliasjargon> hrm... wesnoth takes a while to download
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20090316 18:57:06< elias> get more bandwidth :)
20090316 18:57:23< aliasjargon> my bandwidth maxes at 2mbit
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20090316 18:58:51< elias> 1.7mbit here
20090316 18:59:03< elias> and it seems really slow these days :/
20090316 19:00:21< aliasjargon> the feed into the house maxes at 8mbit full pipe
20090316 19:01:03< aliasjargon> but 3mbit is used per cable tv box
20090316 19:01:42< aliasjargon> sorry 3mbit is used by cable tv
20090316 19:01:48< aliasjargon> some is used for phone etc
20090316 19:03:20< aliasjargon> if i shut off the phones and disabled the cable tv i could hit 7mbit or so if the isp didn't have a shut-off switch in my yard
20090316 19:04:00< aliasjargon> isp tends to get displeased if i use more than 750kbps for net
20090316 19:06:01< elias> heh
20090316 19:07:10< elias> here the router caps at 2mbit (for some reason it really is 1.7)... i could pay one-time 80€ to upgrade to 4mbit, but thinking about switching to cable instead (so i get 16)
20090316 19:08:09< aliasjargon> the fastest home connection i have ever had as 80mbit
20090316 19:08:16< aliasjargon> was*
20090316 19:08:31< aliasjargon> due to a sheer fluke
20090316 19:08:55< elias> nice
20090316 19:09:00< elias> how long did you have it?
20090316 19:09:09< aliasjargon> roughly 30 seconds
20090316 19:09:34< elias> :P
20090316 19:09:40< aliasjargon> my modem ended up frying after 3 seconds
20090316 19:09:44< aliasjargon> my modem ended up frying after 30* seconds
20090316 19:12:39< aliasjargon> my 56k modem was going as fast as phone line could possibly transfer :/
20090316 19:13:10< aliasjargon> this was back in 1997 or so
20090316 19:14:20< aliasjargon> the circuitry in the modem literally melted
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20090316 19:15:03< aliasjargon> i have that modem screwed to my wall as a memento
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20090316 19:15:47< aliasjargon> it still works as a phone line coupler, but that is all it is good for :/
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20090316 19:45:50< aliasjargon> i am suggesting a new attack type from my own game series 'lash'
20090316 19:46:10< aliasjargon> lash attacks often tangle an enemy and are able to flay enemies as well
20090316 19:46:32< aliasjargon> flay basically simply slows regeneration
20090316 19:46:42< aliasjargon> tangle slows movement speed
20090316 19:47:21< aliasjargon> bash, blade, impact, lash are the 4 major non-elemental weapon types in the 'puzzlum' game series
20090316 19:48:02< aliasjargon> sorry i mean piece, blade, impact, lash
20090316 19:48:09< aliasjargon> pierce*
20090316 19:48:31< aliasjargon> however in puzzlum they are referred to as 'pierce, slash, bash, lash'
20090316 19:49:14< aliasjargon> having lash attack types will vastly add to tactical methods if added to wesnoth with flay and tangle effects
20090316 19:49:19< aliasjargon> imo
20090316 19:53:38< VurtualRuler98> Great monologues of wesnoth.
20090316 19:53:55< VurtualRuler98> You've been talking alone for hours.
20090316 19:53:57< aliasjargon> puzzlum has a minimum, maximum, restore rate, and current value for all major vitals
20090316 19:54:24< aliasjargon> instead of exp, puzzlum uses a vital called essence as both currency and exp
20090316 19:55:09< aliasjargon> when a unit is *below* min ess the unit dies
20090316 19:55:24< aliasjargon> ess (essence) cannot go below zero ever
20090316 19:56:03< aliasjargon> also all vitals are either integers or accurate to 1/1000th of a integer
20090316 19:56:15< aliasjargon> essence is an integer based statistic though
20090316 19:56:24< aliasjargon> mana for example isn't
20090316 19:57:06< aliasjargon> the other two major vitals are lifeforce and strength
20090316 19:57:44< aliasjargon> in puzzlum strength has to be above a specific value to use certain abilities and most abilities consume strength when used
20090316 19:58:13< aliasjargon> also piercing and bladed weapons reduce lifeforce faster while impact and lash weapons reduce strength faster
20090316 19:59:39< aliasjargon> however for piercing weapons, there is a chance to reduce strength restore rates for as long as the wound lasts
20090316 20:00:10< aliasjargon> this only works with projectile piercing weapons though
20090316 20:06:57< aliasjargon> puzzlum is an old FOSS game from the days of DOS
20090316 20:07:02< aliasjargon> MS-DOS
20090316 20:07:26< Dragonking> And it is not wesnoth. 
20090316 20:07:46< aliasjargon> i am just outlining some stuff in puzzlum wesnoth is free to include
20090316 20:08:16< aliasjargon> lash weapons would be a good update imo
20090316 20:08:25< aliasjargon> assuming it is easy to implement
20090316 20:08:28< Dragonking> flay and tangle seems like weapon specials not attack type and prolyl can be implementd in WML if someone wants to.
20090316 20:08:43< Dragonking> Besic attack types will not be changed in wesnoth.
20090316 20:09:05< aliasjargon> lash is things like razorchains riotchains whips and other types of flails
20090316 20:09:15< aliasjargon> also a bolo is a type of projectile lash
20090316 20:09:22< Dragonking> tagle is equal to slow weapon special in wesnoth
20090316 20:09:26< Dragonking> tangle'
20090316 20:10:03< aliasjargon> okies :)
20090316 20:10:18< aliasjargon> i am still reading all the tips at the splash screen
20090316 20:10:59< aliasjargon> i took a break from reading them to smoke a cig, fetch a hawaiian punch for myself, etc
20090316 20:11:44< aliasjargon> btw hawaiian is spelled wrong according to xchat even though it is spelled correct
20090316 20:12:17< aliasjargon> i had to start using xchat instead of mirc because wine kept crashing
20090316 20:13:27< aliasjargon> oh wow
20090316 20:13:41< aliasjargon> by sure coincidence the last tip i read was the last one there was
20090316 20:13:52< aliasjargon> sheer coincidence*
20090316 20:15:01< aliasjargon> do more tips get unlocked with progressing game play?
20090316 20:16:44< Soliton> no.
20090316 20:16:50< aliasjargon> :/
20090316 20:17:20< aliasjargon> the only hint i have found on finding more tips is in the mission help screen
20090316 20:17:37< aliasjargon> one of the tips said to refer there
20090316 20:18:02< Soliton> i don't know what that is.
20090316 20:18:55< aliasjargon> 'gameplay' section in the help screen is what it actually said now that i re-read that tip
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20090316 20:20:26< aliasjargon> yes according to the first page of that, more tips are added as play progresses in that guide
20090316 20:21:38< aliasjargon> yes according to the first page of that, as play progresses, more tips are added in that guide*
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20090316 20:21:55< Soliton> that's not what it says.
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20090316 20:22:33< Soliton> what is getting added or rather unlocked is more unit descriptions as you meet them.
20090316 20:22:40< aliasjargon> "As you play the game, new information is added as you come across new aspects of the game."
20090316 20:22:48< aliasjargon> ok
20090316 20:23:12< Soliton> yeah, that sentence is maybe a bit misleading.
20090316 20:23:19< aliasjargon> possibly
20090316 20:25:40< aliasjargon> i hope my replacement ac adapter arrives in the mail today :<
20090316 20:28:28< aliasjargon> i have an older computer i need to repair, needs the keyboard and ac adapter for it swapped out, the ac adapter i am waiting for is for this laptop though, not my older one
20090316 20:30:07< aliasjargon> i can't really play wesnoth for long missions until i get the ac adapter swapped out, otherwise i keep having to re-drape the ac adapter cord over the screen to keep it working
20090316 20:30:32< aliasjargon> once i get my new ac adapter either today or tomorrow i will hit one of you up for multi-play :D
20090316 20:35:08< aliasjargon> is there a way to make replay files for missions?
20090316 20:35:27< aliasjargon> like movies i mean
20090316 20:51:29< aliasjargon> are there 'stupid' units in addition to 'normal' and 'intelligent' units?
20090316 20:51:39< aliasjargon> :DDD
20090316 20:53:40< Soliton> no, but 'dim' ones.
20090316 20:53:44< aliasjargon> :D
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20090316 20:54:24< aliasjargon> if i ever make a mod of this game i am making 'blatant moron' units :D
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20090316 20:56:51< aliasjargon> a 'blatant moron' leader would gradually make everyone they lead stupider for example
20090316 20:57:36< aliasjargon> and the 'functional drunk' unit :D that uses a ballmer peak D:
20090316 20:57:50< aliasjargon> ^-^
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20090316 22:13:50< Polarina> The Battle for Wesnoth is great! :D
20090316 22:13:58< zookeeper> indeed.
20090316 22:15:11< Blueblaze> Polarina, yay celebrate
20090316 22:15:22 * Blueblaze gets a cake
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20090316 23:05:24< Polarina> http://www.wesnoth.org/images/sshots/ancient-01.png
20090316 23:05:25< Polarina> :P
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20090316 23:11:27< Polarina> http://www.wesnoth.org/images/sshots/wesnoth-1.6-2.jpg - There's a graphic glitch in this screenshot.
20090316 23:12:27< Polarina> At around (390, 175) and (705, 245).
20090316 23:12:27< Blueblaze> Polarina, what exactly am I looking at? :o
20090316 23:12:37< Blueblaze> oh
20090316 23:13:04 * Blueblaze notices it not
20090316 23:13:10< Polarina> Just thought I should've mentioned it. :)
20090316 23:13:11< Blueblaze> but I'm not taking the time to find the exact pixel either :P
20090316 23:13:22< Polarina> It's not a exact pixel.
20090316 23:13:33< Polarina> It's like a 10x10 area around these coordinates.
20090316 23:14:04< Blueblaze> argh, you have made me curious, guess I'll load Gimp :p
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20090316 23:14:48< Polarina> Did I miss anything?
20090316 23:14:54< Blueblaze> <Blueblaze> argh, you have made me curious, guess I'll load Gimp :p
20090316 23:15:01< Polarina> :)
20090316 23:17:01< Blueblaze> Polarina, does it only happen with the ruined castle, or the regular castle too?
20090316 23:17:23< Polarina> Blueblaze: Haven't got a clue. All I saw is on that screenshot.
20090316 23:17:26< Blueblaze> ah
20090316 23:17:49< Blueblaze> It happens at every ford/sunken castle transition
20090316 23:18:55< Polarina> It shouldn't be difficult.
20090316 23:19:39< Blueblaze> okay, well basically how it works is it turns the castle blue because it's basically assuming that there is water there
20090316 23:20:05< Blueblaze> That gives the castle the sunken under water effect
20090316 23:20:16< Blueblaze> It just looks odd whenever it's next to a tile that isn't water :P
20090316 23:21:05< Polarina> :)
20090316 23:21:20< Blueblaze> What it normally does is change the castle into solid whenever it's next to the ground, but it does change it under certain circumstances
20090316 23:23:06 * Polarina haven't looked at the source yet.
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20090316 23:23:46< Blueblaze> zookeeper, http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6088/sunkencastle.png
20090316 23:24:05< Blueblaze> That's a better illustration of what Polarina noticed
20090316 23:24:13< Polarina> Blueblaze: :)
20090316 23:26:10< zookeeper> the ford has nothing to do with it was just pointless for you to keep talking about the ford.
20090316 23:26:48< zookeeper> and no, i'm not going to try to fix that
20090316 23:27:01< Polarina> Why not?
20090316 23:27:16< zookeeper> effort/benefit ratio
20090316 23:27:23< Polarina> Then I am going to fix it.
20090316 23:27:34< zookeeper> good luck, you're gonna need it
20090316 23:27:45< Polarina> o.O
20090316 23:29:21< zookeeper> the effort i was referring to could very well mean hours
20090316 23:29:34< zookeeper> (for me)
20090316 23:30:02< zookeeper> but then again, it could be less. but if it wouldn't be, i'd find out too late.
20090316 23:30:08< Blueblaze> Polarina, Wesnoth's terrain wml is quite nauseating
20090316 23:32:57< Polarina> Ouch...
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