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20090321 00:46:07< Ivanovic> n8
20090321 00:47:26< keb> n8
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20090321 00:57:55< grzywacz> Blueblaze_ :)
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20090321 01:00:23< Blueblaze_> grzywacz, hey
20090321 01:00:38< grzywacz> Blueblaze_, how's your laptop doing?
20090321 01:01:00< grzywacz> (that's a really silly questions, but it boils down to whether you can do any work on sound atm :P)
20090321 01:01:04< grzywacz> *question
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20090321 01:06:18< Blueblaze_> grzywacz, well Ubuntu is installed and running on it
20090321 01:06:23< Blueblaze_> but I can't get the wifi to work at all
20090321 01:07:14< grzywacz> Oh. That's bad. Do you know what chipset you have there?
20090321 01:08:56< keb> lspci
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20090321 01:11:47< Blueblaze_> grzywacz, Broadco Coporation BCM4318
20090321 01:11:58< Blueblaze_> grzywacz, Espreon has been slaving away for a long time trying to get it to work :P
20090321 01:12:30< grzywacz> :-)
20090321 01:13:33< grzywacz> Tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=803986 ?
20090321 01:15:29 * Blueblaze_ asks Espreon to look at it :z
20090321 01:17:15< keb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
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20090321 01:32:48< nihil-01> hi there are a way to change hoster during the game without diconnect from game. i mean a special command?
20090321 01:33:19< Blueblaze_> hah, I almost told you how to do it for WC3 lol :|
20090321 01:33:25 * Blueblaze_ is getting his games confused
20090321 01:34:00< nihil-01> ?
20090321 01:34:35< keb> i didnt know wesnothd could ran as a cluster app
20090321 01:38:05< grzywacz> cluster app?
20090321 01:38:37< keb> one server distributed over several machines
20090321 01:38:47< keb> otherwise how can you change host in the middle of a game
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20090321 01:40:39< grzywacz> you can't
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20090321 01:56:50< nihil-01> everytime if someone left the game, the control and host goes to the next person. maybe it is possible to implement a command to give up the host control manual.  
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20090321 02:42:38< IronJan> Is it allowed to use wesnoth-code to make a similar game? this game would be distributed under gpl, like wesnoth. // "own fork" is neccessary, because the game is based on a book trilogy, and so needs other races, units, magic etc.
20090321 02:43:59< grzywacz> yes, but you may have problems with rights to the book's world
20090321 02:45:45< IronJan> grzywacz: ok thanks. these problems could be solved soon. the author allowed his fanforum to make this game. i'm member of the forum, but i'll write a letter to ask for permission again
20090321 02:46:05< IronJan> grzywacz: thanks for your help
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20090321 03:18:46< skizzaltix> I
20090321 03:18:56< skizzaltix> I am __uncapitalized__
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20090321 03:29:10< keb> IronJan is the book's world so different that a wesnoth campaign or era couldnt be developed using the existing code?
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20090321 03:35:52< IronJan> keb: the world i very different. i didn't check, how exactly wesnoth data storage is organized. but most of the changes will be made by creating units, worlds, campaigns etc. perhaps some minor changes in battle system. but one things for sure: if we create a work upon wesnoth-code, we try to upstream bugfixes etc
20090321 03:38:44< keb> wesnoth WML lets you do many things with the story, and i suspect the units and balancing is all in the data which is also changeable.  it may turn out you dont need to fork code. of course the name of the game might have to change if its a whole different story ;)
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20090321 03:49:28< keb> wb Capitalized one
20090321 03:49:40< Skizzaltix> hi
20090321 03:52:51< IronJan> keb: at first we wanted to write an own engine, but as all developers do their "abitur" (you need this to go to university, dont know english phrase), we do not have much time. as i encountered BfW some days ago, it nearly blew my mind. the gameplay is nearly the same. name of the game had to change from the beginning (exactly described: falrach is a strategic game described very briefly in some books. all information to that game could be stored on 1 pie
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20090321 04:35:54< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090321 04:47:02< Blueblaze_> hi [Relic]
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20090321 04:54:41< [Relic]> :)
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20090321 08:22:00< dfranke> heh, that was a fun game...
20090321 08:22:21< dfranke> pick-your-own-recruits era, Isar's cross, FFA, 40% exp to level...
20090321 08:22:37< dfranke> I leveled my leader to a grand marshal
20090321 08:23:13< dfranke> marshal + shaman + berserker = WOOHOO
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20090321 09:28:55< nital> aww, it's plain stupid
20090321 09:29:21< nital> lenovo notebooks tell one to "press lenovo care button to interrupt startup"
20090321 09:29:36< nital> while it does nothing
20090321 09:30:00< nital> had to use trial-and-error to find out that F1 is the button for BIOS setup
20090321 09:30:12< mazling> keep hold of it immediately after you switch on
20090321 09:30:32< nital> didn't help
20090321 09:30:38< nital> F1 did, immediately
20090321 09:30:56< mazling> yeah latops can be weird, and screens coming on slowly means you miss the bios screen with the keys listed on it :E
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20090321 14:09:03 * Blueblaze cannot find a solid soprano acoustic electric ukulele anywhere for under $200 :(
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20090321 14:16:02< VurtualRuler98> a what?
20090321 14:18:34< Blueblaze> lol
20090321 14:18:37< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: A ukulele
20090321 14:18:47< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: That is the soprano size (aka the standard size)
20090321 14:18:52< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: That is acoustic
20090321 14:18:57< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: But also could be plugged in
20090321 14:19:07< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: (to an amp)
20090321 14:19:13< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: And cost under $200
20090321 14:19:29< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: Which uses at least a solid top but preferably all solid woods (aka no plywood)
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20090321 14:20:36< VurtualRuler98> Basically, a weird breed of electric guitar and a banjo, that isn't cheap plywood
20090321 14:21:05< Blueblaze> -_-
20090321 14:21:28< Blueblaze> Where does the banjo fit in?
20090321 14:21:50< Blueblaze> I basically am looking for a very small acoustic-electric guitar
20090321 14:23:53< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: I don't think my request is that farfetched :/
20090321 14:25:05< VurtualRuler98> I'm too busy laughing at the image of an electric banjo.
20090321 14:25:34< Blueblaze> You should check out electric ukuleles
20090321 14:25:41< Blueblaze> They're smaller and even  more hardcore
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20090321 15:16:50< Blueblaze> Anyone know where downloaded files go on Ubuntu?
20090321 15:16:55< Blueblaze> from Wesnoth's addon server
20090321 15:17:35< Ivanovic> .wesnoth/data/
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20090321 15:21:10< Blueblaze> Ivanovic: Thanks, transitioning from Windows XP to Ubuntu is quite interesting :P
20090321 15:21:59< Ivanovic> once you are used to it, you will *love* many of the small features
20090321 15:23:07< Blueblaze> I'm very surprised it's not as stoneage as I thought it would be :p
20090321 15:23:50< Ivanovic> you mean you are suprised that microsoft is already for years busy copying over some of the good concepts?
20090321 15:24:16< Ivanovic> and still they lack middle mouse pasting!
20090321 15:25:04< Ivanovic> the first well known "package manager" on windows was probably steam (as in download, install and keep programs up to date) where a tool for this is in linux for *years* and it manages the whole system without and drm attached to it...
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20090321 15:27:21< Blueblaze> Yeah, I was very impressed by it, made my life much easier when trying to find like programs what I would use on Windows
20090321 15:27:36< Blueblaze> Nothing really comes close to it on Windows
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20090321 15:28:04< Ivanovic> for games steam does something like this, though it is more like an interface to an online store
20090321 15:28:16< Ivanovic> but it also allows "click and install" as well as "keep it up to date"
20090321 15:28:30< Blueblaze> Ah, but it's mainly focused on getting your money :)
20090321 15:28:40< Ivanovic> of course it is
20090321 15:28:41< Blueblaze> Linux is an absolutely difference experience
20090321 15:28:57< Ivanovic> but it offeres at least some "service" with the "gimme your money"
20090321 15:29:02< Blueblaze> heh
20090321 15:30:05< Ivanovic> and directly offering things like virtual desktop
20090321 15:30:15< Ivanovic> without those i feel crippled on other systems...
20090321 15:31:01< Blueblaze> I've heard a lot of bad things about Steam though, I guess particularly in some games forcing you to login/register with Steam just to install the game
20090321 15:31:04< Ivanovic> and one should *never* underestimate the power of a good and easy to use shell
20090321 15:31:26< Ivanovic> Blueblaze: yes, this is the "really bad point" about steam, it comes with lots of drm attached
20090321 15:32:16< Ivanovic> with the shell you can with easy automize tasks that you usually do (like "update my svn rep and compile+install wesnoth")
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20090321 15:42:27< Blueblaze> Hmm, Why is .wesnoth1.6 not viewable from the parent directory, but it's still accessible if you goto it by manually entering it in the location bar?
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20090321 15:43:42< Ivanovic> because it is a hidden folder
20090321 15:43:49< Ivanovic> folders starting with a . are hidden
20090321 15:44:17< Blueblaze> Ah, so that's why I couldn't pull it up on the search earlier I guess
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20090321 16:47:04< joshudson> Has anybody found the historian of wesnoth yet?
20090321 16:47:24< Blueblaze> joshudson: Historian of Wesnoth? 
20090321 16:47:37< joshudson> I hid the character in Story of the Wose
20090321 16:47:59< Blueblaze> ohh ok
20090321 16:48:06< Blueblaze> You probably should ask in the forums 
20090321 16:48:10< Blueblaze> Under your campaign's thread
20090321 16:48:42< joshudson> would surprise me if anybody read the thread
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20090321 19:11:59< Shadow_Master> 164.3 MB worth of Wesnoth savegames.
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20090321 20:48:45< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: arent you doing portraits any more?
20090321 20:49:13< thespaceinvader> i'm putting them on something of a back seat for the moment
20090321 20:49:24< Unnheulu> ok
20090321 20:49:41< Unnheulu> watch the rugby?
20090321 20:49:48< thespaceinvader> partly due to university pressures, partly because we're accumulating a good collection of portrait artists, but we have naff-all sprite artists
20090321 20:49:50< thespaceinvader> no
20090321 20:50:43< Unnheulu> me neither^^
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20090321 21:12:30< joshudson> #define COMMA "|"
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