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20090327 00:53:13< faryshta> Hi, someone have played Sceptre of Life? I have a question about the scenario where you blow the bridges.
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20090327 01:24:16< dfranke> noy: we eventually won that game yesterday
20090327 01:24:22< dfranke> noy: through pure sitzfleisch, I think.
20090327 01:24:33< noy> sitzfleish?
20090327 01:24:35< noy> luck?
20090327 01:24:49< dfranke> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sitzfleisch
20090327 01:25:11< faryshta> I could do it with MANY problems and losts but my question is about how to end the game without Elrial (elvish girl) yell at you.
20090327 01:26:47< Shadow_Master> dfranke: sit flesh '
20090327 01:26:47< dfranke> noy: I left an archer exposed for purple as ulf bait.  He took it, and I leveled a troll on his ulf.  Then he got too aggressive trying to kill the troll, and blundered his leader.
20090327 01:26:52< Shadow_Master> s/'/?/
20090327 01:27:09< dfranke> Shadow_Master: yeah, it's chess jargon.  See the wiktionary link.
20090327 01:27:24< noy> dfranke: you could have said patience too. 
20090327 01:27:25< Shadow_Master> I'm reading it.
20090327 01:27:44< Shadow_Master> "ability to sit still". I wonder what's the relation with _flesh_  o . O
20090327 01:31:25< ArmOrAttAk> never hears sitz... as chess jargon
20090327 01:31:42< ArmOrAttAk> looks like german jargon
20090327 01:32:05< Shadow_Master> german chess jargon
20090327 01:32:18< faryshta> I tried to distract the orcs first untill I saw those towers.
20090327 01:32:19< Soliton> it's not chess specific.
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20090327 01:36:51< opossum> hey, I have a question about packages
20090327 01:37:15< opossum> do you guys know if there are plans to backport wesnoth 1.6 for ubuntu?
20090327 01:37:15< Shadow_Master> ask your question please. we could die if you don't :(
20090327 01:37:19< Shadow_Master> ah.
20090327 01:37:39< Shadow_Master> probably. We don't talk much (at all?) with the Ubuntu packagers.
20090327 01:38:42< opossum> I was just talking with Flannel on #ubuntu about it
20090327 01:38:45< opossum> he said
20090327 01:38:46< opossum> Flannel>	opossum: It could get into the official -backports, but it'll be more likely that someone (perhaps wesnoth's MOTU) would backport 1.6 to current Ubuntu versions in a PPA.
20090327 01:38:58< Shadow_Master> MOTU?
20090327 01:39:04< Shadow_Master> PPA?  O.o
20090327 01:39:06< Soliton> master of the universe.
20090327 01:39:18< opossum> Flannel>	opossum: So, I'd contact the maintainer and ask if they have any plans for doing something like that, etc.
20090327 01:39:23< faryshta> opossum I installed it by getdeb.net
20090327 01:39:26< faryshta> check the site.
20090327 01:39:33< Shadow_Master> opossum: tell them we don't make official binary packages
20090327 01:39:39< Soliton> so ask the maintainer. i doubt he is here.
20090327 01:39:49< Shadow_Master> opossum: the only official distribution we make is the source code one.
20090327 01:40:17< Shadow_Master> that said, we do have mainline developers who also make packages, but none for Ubuntu at the moment
20090327 01:40:19< fendrin> opossum: Normaly wesnoth is imported to ubuntu with the regulary debian syncs.
20090327 01:40:26< faryshta> opossum, also on FF on the search bar there is an option to search on the packages for Ubuntu, you will find the debs for Jaunty there.
20090327 01:40:39< Shadow_Master> there should already be a 1.6a package in the Debian experimental repository IIRC
20090327 01:40:48< opossum> Shadow_Master: I guess in that case some random person would have to do a backport if they didn't want to wait
20090327 01:41:33< fendrin> opossum: there are working packages. they just need to be imported to ubuntu.
20090327 01:42:33< opossum> so they just need to be tested and make their way into ubuntu backports I guess
20090327 01:43:05< Shadow_Master> no idea what are the arch differeneces between the ubuntu system layout and debian's
20090327 01:44:56< fendrin> ubuntu normaly just compiles everything that is not supported by the ubuntu team from debian/testing into it's universe repository. Sometimes that even leads to non working tools. Because the core system isn't a debian anymore. 
20090327 01:45:57< Shadow_Master> so "master of the universe" as in Ubuntu's "universe" ? 
20090327 01:46:29< Shadow_Master> and I thought that debian's codenames were funny already :P
20090327 01:46:34< fendrin> I don't know if "master of the universe" is a ubuntu term.
20090327 01:46:51< opossum> I think it just meant the person in charge of everything wesnoth
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20090327 01:47:19< faryshta> There is no universe (math theorem).
20090327 01:47:21< Shadow_Master> that person is the Lord of Translations. Yet again, he only makes the official distribution, which is source-code only.
20090327 01:47:29< opossum> yeah
20090327 01:47:45< Soliton> MOTU has nothing to do with us.
20090327 01:47:50< opossum> so for there to be ubuntu packages, some random person would have to make their own repository -- a PPA
20090327 01:48:01< opossum> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
20090327 01:48:40 * Shadow_Master resists the temptation to make a bad pun out of Ubuntu's MOTU
20090327 01:49:23< faryshta> opossum, http://www.getdeb.net/app/The+Battle+for+Wesnoth
20090327 01:49:37< opossum> faryshta: yeah I'll probably just install that one lol
20090327 01:49:49< opossum> I just wanted auto updates from synaptic because I am lazy
20090327 01:50:26< faryshta> yeah you will need this then http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=wesnoth
20090327 01:50:54< ArmOrAttAk> he-man jargon
20090327 01:54:20< Soliton> well, looks to me like stikonas already made a PPA for wesnoth: https://launchpad.net/~stikonas/+archive/ppa
20090327 01:54:36< faryshta> Is there any other cool game for Linux? I think wesnoth and openarena are the only ones I can brag about when someone ask it.
20090327 01:54:51< Shadow_Master> I already forgot... what was all this about? ;)
20090327 01:54:58< fendrin> faryshta: I like freeciv
20090327 01:55:24< faryshta> let me find it. and getdeb has it own repository for games if you mind.
20090327 01:56:23< Soliton> there are a lot of top X games for linux posts out there you could check.
20090327 01:56:42< faryshta> sudo apt-get install freeciv?
20090327 02:00:46< Shadow_Master> n8
20090327 02:01:11< fendrin> faryshta: www.happypenguin.org
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20090327 02:07:17< ArmOrAttAk> teewars is cool
20090327 02:07:28< ArmOrAttAk> faryshta
20090327 02:07:51< ArmOrAttAk> mario meets quake
20090327 02:08:21< faryshta> mmm don't find teewars.
20090327 02:09:06< ArmOrAttAk> http://www.teeworlds.com/
20090327 02:09:10< ArmOrAttAk> my mistake
20090327 02:09:44< faryshta> ArmOrAttAk, thanks I am installing it now. Via synaptic.
20090327 02:10:15< faryshta> and what is that mario meets quake?
20090327 02:10:36< faryshta> is it linux friendly? I don't find anything like it on synaptic.
20090327 02:10:38< ArmOrAttAk> it's like playing ctf quake in a mario enviroment
20090327 02:10:58< faryshta> ahh ok
20090327 02:11:25< faryshta> I would love some arcade emulator... someone know any?
20090327 02:12:40< ArmOrAttAk> eassoth
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20090327 02:14:48< faryshta> ArmOrAttAk, IDGI.
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20090327 02:15:32< ArmOrAttAk> jk faryshta 
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20090327 04:07:08< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090327 07:43:05< snippy> Hi, I try to compile Wesnoth on Mac (10.5), is there anybody that did that recently ? 
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20090327 18:59:39< mysticX> hi, does somebody remember the "Path of Summoner era?
20090327 19:02:07< Blueblaze> mysticX: nope :(
20090327 19:02:08< Blueblaze> lol
20090327 19:02:12< Blueblaze> did you search for it on the forums?
20090327 19:04:00< mysticX> I didnt search because I already got it. I also updated it for the new stable
20090327 19:05:25< Blueblaze> mysticX: What is that anyway?
20090327 19:06:56< mysticX> an era made by fmunoz, you play as a summoner who recruits various magical creatures
20090327 19:07:53< mysticX> each specialises in 2 fields from fire,air,earth,water,life and death
20090327 19:09:39< mysticX> I hoped to get some people for a game here
20090327 19:09:49< mysticX> after I upload it
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20090327 19:28:51< mysticX> let me know if you are interested ; )
20090327 19:34:05< Blueblaze> mysticX: sounds neat, my scenario though takes forever :P
20090327 19:34:10< Blueblaze> I guess we're on hour 3 now
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20090327 19:56:56< Polarina> I can make a scenario that truly lasts forever.
20090327 19:57:10< Polarina> You just make all players start with tons of gold.
20090327 19:58:15< Blueblaze> well, people can still make bad unit selections
20090327 19:58:30< Blueblaze> Ultimately after a few hundred turns, someone could win
20090327 19:59:35< Tomsik_> you can make no-winning conditions
20090327 20:00:59< Blueblaze> Yeah, that's possible, but then if both players leave, the scenario ends
20090327 20:01:02< Blueblaze> thus not lasting forever :P
20090327 20:04:49< Tomsik_> that's cheating :-p
20090327 20:05:09< Tomsik_> Fine, let player have a very, very small chance of winning each turn
20090327 20:05:16< Tomsik_> statistically, it will last very long
20090327 20:05:58< Blueblaze> so
20090327 20:06:03< Blueblaze> a 0.001% chance to win per turn
20090327 20:06:31< Tomsik_> no, that's a lot
20090327 20:06:40< Tomsik_> Like, have 10 thunderers
20090327 20:06:50< Tomsik_> and 10 enemies on 70% def ground
20090327 20:06:55< Tomsik_> and player wins if all hit
20090327 20:07:09< Tomsik_> 0.3^10
20090327 20:07:31< Tomsik_> or better yet, make that skeletons in deep water
20090327 20:07:35< Tomsik_> and player wins if they all survive
20090327 20:07:40< Tomsik_> 0.1^10
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20090327 21:01:17< mysticX> please. I try to upload an era and it says "network communication error."
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20090327 23:12:07< zpmorgan> kitty's sy;ph portrait is the hotness
20090327 23:12:13< zpmorgan> *sylph
20090327 23:12:49< fendrin> kitty_: -^
20090327 23:13:06< kitty_> :) thanks
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