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Or i just failed to find it? 20090331 11:54:11-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090331 11:54:26-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 12:07:24< SynrG> i have taken to clicking on preferences before walking off so that when i get back, all of the enemy moves are saved up until i cancel it 20090331 12:14:02-!- mazling [i=largeear@host81-152-66-196.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["o/~ locked in silent monologue - in silent scream... o/~"] 20090331 12:16:55-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bdd121.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 12:18:35-!- mazling [i=largeear@host81-152-66-196.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 12:21:57-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.47.21] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090331 12:43:57-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090331 12:44:12-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 12:44:30-!- masa_edw [n=masa@7c29465b.i-revonet.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 12:45:13< Ivanovic> hi 20090331 12:54:21-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@66-189-40-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Hi! I'm a quit message virus vaccine. 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Rhonda, here? 20090331 14:28:30-!- mthe [n=mthe@92.40.43.5.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 14:29:30< salty-horse> is the in-game right-click menu affected by this bug? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?12162 -- it has a nasty side-effect of accidental clicks 20090331 14:31:34-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20090331 14:35:05-!- mthe [n=mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [] 20090331 14:39:56-!- mthe [n=mthe@92.40.115.84.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 14:46:54< Rhonda> salty-horse: No, there. If you would have supplied context I would had been able to respond, now I'm going back into hiding. thanks. 20090331 14:47:24< salty-horse> Rhonda, I PM'd you too :) 20090331 14:47:55< Rhonda> Found that, responded there, back into hiding. 20090331 14:50:39-!- elias [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 15:02:49-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090331 15:08:56-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 15:10:48-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 15:11:08-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090331 15:11:09-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Client Quit] 20090331 15:12:12-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 15:17:46-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 15:49:44-!- masa_edw [n=masa@7c29465b.i-revonet.jp] has quit [] 20090331 16:02:21-!- JW1 [n=X@c-71-57-85-168.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 20090331 16:06:11-!- |backslash| [n=|backsla@212.37.174.163] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 16:06:53-!- |backslash| [n=|backsla@212.37.174.163] has quit [Client Quit] 20090331 16:07:41-!- letto [n=letto@86.120.70.103] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 16:11:41< salty-horse> why is "sets" imported in /Sconstruct ? 1) I can find no use of it. 2) It's deprecated since python 2.6 20090331 16:15:06< Ivanovic> salty-horse: this you have to ask loonycyborg in #wesnoth-debv 20090331 16:15:16< Ivanovic> argh, #wesnoth-dev i mean 20090331 16:15:23< Ivanovic> he is the one maintaining the scons recipe 20090331 16:17:17< salty-horse> ok. I got another question: 20090331 16:17:28< elias> it probably was used at some point, and the "sets" was left in the imports list when it was removed 20090331 16:18:08< salty-horse> in the first level of the heir to the throne campaign, the top left of the map has a tile with a crossroads sign. right after level intro, when the orc at the top left gets his turn, that sign blinks. why? 20090331 16:20:26< elias> so you don't miss it I guess 20090331 16:21:33< salty-horse> is it important? what does it do? 20090331 16:21:44< salty-horse> (I can't right click and get info on it) 20090331 16:22:09< Ivanovic> salty-horse: read the objectives for the scenario and you might understand why it makes sense to highlight the crossroads sign... 20090331 16:22:10< salty-horse> why does it only blick on the orc's turn? 20090331 16:22:17< salty-horse> blink* 20090331 16:22:26< Ivanovic> it blinks before your first turn 20090331 16:22:29< Ivanovic> this is what matters! 20090331 16:22:37< salty-horse> ok :) I sort of rushed through to test something 20090331 16:23:40< Ivanovic> you know, in old school (like) games as eg wesnoth, you don't have voice overs, so that you really have to read the texts yourself 20090331 16:23:47< Ivanovic> and doing so helps *a lot* in normal gameplay 20090331 16:23:48< Ivanovic> ;) 20090331 16:23:59-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 16:24:09< salty-horse> Ivanovic, you're right. my bad :) 20090331 16:24:50< salty-horse> another question: I see the timer at the top as "HH:MM:.." and the tooltip says "HH:MM:SS". why not make it larger in the first place? 20090331 16:25:53< Ivanovic> because this timer is only there due to "theming problems" otherwise 20090331 16:26:21< Ivanovic> when you are not in a timer game, (those are *only* possible in multiplayer) this timer is a normal clock and showing what your system clock shows 20090331 16:27:11< Ivanovic> and before you ask any questions about "why is there not more space for ABC", switch to 800x600 and check how much space is left there... 20090331 16:30:34< salty-horse> I see. is it possible to hide it altogether in single-player games? why should I want to know the time inside the game? 20090331 16:31:03-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Success] 20090331 16:31:34< Ivanovic> some users requested this once upon the time 20090331 16:31:46< Ivanovic> and no, there is no easy option to deactivate the clock only for SP gameplay 20090331 16:32:14< Ivanovic> that is the problem, the field would be there anyway, since there is no extra theming difference between SP and MP 20090331 16:32:22< Ivanovic> it is just not possible at the moment 20090331 16:32:31< salty-horse> ok 20090331 16:32:34< elias> if you play in fullscreen, it's good if you notice "oh no, it's 1am and I have to get up in 5 hours" :) 20090331 16:32:55< salty-horse> elias, but it's very rare for games to show you the time 20090331 16:33:13< Ivanovic> salty-horse: it is rare for high quality games to be completely open source 20090331 16:33:15< Ivanovic> ;) 20090331 16:33:27< elias> and very rare for games to be addictive enough for time to be a problem :) 20090331 16:33:42< salty-horse> :D 20090331 16:33:53< ilor> salty-horse: civ4 has a timer too 20090331 16:34:09< salty-horse> elias, it should have a notification system, then, that hooks into your default calendar app 20090331 16:34:20< salty-horse> idea: I think the tooltips for the top menu items should be trigged by hovering on the entire rectangle, and not just the graphic icon 20090331 16:34:23< elias> submit a patch :) 20090331 16:34:24< ilor> civ4 even has it's own alarm system ;) 20090331 16:34:45< salty-horse> is there a boss key ;) 20090331 16:34:47< salty-horse> ? 20090331 16:55:53-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 16:56:26< Ivanovic> of course not, you are not meant to play at work when your boss does not want you to do so! 20090331 16:56:38< Ivanovic> ;) 20090331 16:57:54< elias> maybe he meant a key for the boss, so staff don't notice he is playing wesnoth at work 20090331 17:02:19-!- RaV_pl [n=RaV_pl@host-81-190-111-151.gdynia.mm.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:05:14-!- miggir [n=mig@49.Red-79-147-108.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Remember... what the dormouse said..."] 20090331 17:06:34-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:08:54-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:14:35-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:17:26-!- |backslash| [n=|backsla@cpe-0040d02e0aa6.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:22:06-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@FUSE-WS1-208-102-202-188.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090331 17:32:54-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@78-106-165-8.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:38:18-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@78-106-165-8.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090331 17:38:36-!- harry1 [n=harryBer@89-178-4-80.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:40:46-!- mich- [n=mich@87.13.235.95] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:49:23-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@89-178-109-167.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:50:08-!- oops_shadowm [n=ignacio@146.155.80.226] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 17:50:25-!- oops_shadowm [n=ignacio@146.155.80.226] has quit [Client Quit] 20090331 17:53:10-!- harry1 [n=harryBer@89-178-4-80.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Operation timed out] 20090331 17:56:09-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@89-178-109-167.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090331 17:56:26-!- harry1 [n=harryBer@89-178-108-4.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 18:13:31-!- ettin [n=jorda@wesnoth/developer/ettin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090331 18:14:58-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@89-178-109-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 18:27:51-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@89-178-109-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090331 18:28:09-!- harry2 [n=harryBer@89-178-91-40.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 18:30:07-!- cjhopman [n=chris@wesnoth/developer/cjhopman] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20090331 18:30:08-!- harry1 [n=harryBer@89-178-108-4.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090331 18:33:12-!- mich- [n=mich@87.13.235.95] has left #wesnoth [] 20090331 18:46:53-!- harry2 [n=harryBer@89-178-91-40.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090331 18:52:20-!- noy [n=Noy@S01060016d3eab391.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090331 18:53:31-!- mazling [i=largeear@host81-152-66-196.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["o/~ locked in silent monologue - in silent scream... o/~"] 20090331 19:00:37-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has quit ["Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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