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20090421 00:07:08< Ivanovic> Crab_: there will probably be some info in the docs how to do it
20090421 00:07:13< Ivanovic> (or only active later on)
20090421 00:07:51< Crab_> Ivanovic: probably "only active later on", since that button I've clicked  is named "edit my proposal"
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20090421 00:12:40< CIA-30> alink * r35089 /trunk/src/help.cpp: In help, hide "Advances to/from:" when empty, as mentionned in bug #13369
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20090421 00:50:16< CIA-30> alink * r35090 /trunk/src/help.cpp: 
20090421 00:50:16< CIA-30> In help, fix position of "Advances from/to" to allow faster exploration of the
20090421 00:50:16< CIA-30> advancement tree ("Advances from/to" sometimes switched under the mouse)
20090421 00:50:16< CIA-30> Also exploit the symmetry between from/to to eliminate some code redundancy.
20090421 00:55:03< CIA-30> alink * r35091 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: Since the non-working ":buff" was commented off, do the same for ":unbuff"
20090421 00:55:23< Ivanovic> n8
20090421 00:55:35< Crab_> night, Ivanovic
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20090421 01:25:03< CIA-30> alink * r35092 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: 
20090421 01:25:03< CIA-30> Add 2 new commands ':discover' and ':undiscover' which allow to fill or clear
20090421 01:25:03< CIA-30> the list of discovered units filtering what to show in help.
20090421 01:25:03< CIA-30> I think that ':discover' is a frequent user request and ':undiscover' will help
20090421 01:25:03< CIA-30> help to debug the currently not perfect update of discovered units.
20090421 01:25:31 * alink is aware that 'undiscover' is not a real word, but this is only a debug command
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20090421 01:26:38< alink> mmh btw, i didn't restricted these command to debug mode only, because in debug mode you always see all units, preventing to see the effects of the command
20090421 01:27:03< alink> :discover is not really cheating, so I think it's ok
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20090421 01:28:40< alink> and, of course, it has no impact on MP. It's even more fair for a players who didn't find all units yet.
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20090421 01:44:58< Polarina> alink: Here's a site to find the opposite word of a word: http://www.opposite-word.com/default.asp
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20090421 01:45:47< alink> Polarina: thanks, but I already searched that ;-p
20090421 01:46:26< alink> Polarina: I decided to keep undiscover to keep obvious that it's the reverse of :discover
20090421 01:46:34< alink> like :debug and :nodebug
20090421 01:46:38< Polarina> What about :forget ?
20090421 01:47:39< Crab_> alink: why not "nodiscover" then ? :)
20090421 01:47:43< alink> i mean with 2 very different command name, you need to learn and memorize both of them, instead of just one
20090421 01:48:01< Crab_> but I guess that this doesn't matter much :)
20090421 01:48:19< alink> Crab_: :-) well that's not more English and less clear I think
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20090421 01:49:11< Polarina> In Esperanto, knowing only one root you know how to use it as a noun, verb (past, present, future, command and conditional), adjective and as an adverb.
20090421 01:49:26< alink> Crab_: yeah, also I wonder who other than me (for debugging) will use :undiscover ;p
20090421 01:50:15< Crab_> alink: some curious man, who will be wondering: "ah, what does this command do?" :)
20090421 01:50:30< Polarina> alink: And the proper opposite of "*dis*cover" is "cover".
20090421 01:51:10< Polarina> alink: Just like "inablility" becomes "ability", not "uninability"
20090421 01:51:15< alink> Polarina: at that's maybe a good point, but again 'cover' seems less clear to me
20090421 01:51:26< Polarina> alink: But that is the proper english term.
20090421 01:51:51< alink> plus it's 'cover again' because it was already 'discovered' before
20090421 01:52:31< alink> Polarina: yeah, but it's only a debug command. 'set_var' is not very english too ;-p
20090421 01:52:47< Polarina> alink: Well, while you're here, you can fix it. :)
20090421 01:52:53< Crab_> alink: another way is ":discover yes, :discover no (with ':discover' equal to ':discover all')" (again, this is not important at all :) )
20090421 01:53:01 * Polarina wouldn't like tons of commands ending in being nonenglish.
20090421 01:53:26< Polarina> Crab_: :discover Elvish Archer
20090421 01:53:33< Polarina> Crab_: Good idea. :)
20090421 01:54:00< alink> Crab_: yeah but i want to reserve the parameter in case if i want to (un)discover a specific unit
20090421 01:54:11< alink> but not sure if i will need that or not
20090421 01:54:28 * Polarina begs someone to change :undiscover to :cover
20090421 01:55:09 * alink knew that it was a bad idea to mention that 'undiscover' was not English :-/
20090421 01:55:25< Polarina> alink: Now you have to fix that.
20090421 01:55:35< Polarina> alink: Since English already has a proper term for that.
20090421 01:55:37< Crab_> alink: he-he :) but it doesn't matter that it is not English :) It's perfect Debug :)
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20090421 01:56:33< Polarina> And changing it to :cover saves 5 bytes of memory and disk storage! Think of the children!
20090421 01:57:17< alink> Mmmh we have ":alias" but no ":unalias" maybe I must fix that  ;-p
20090421 01:57:22< Crab_> Polarina: and changing "stoned" to "petrified" saves how many :) ?
20090421 01:57:24< Polarina> alink: !
20090421 01:57:41< Polarina> Crab_: Three.
20090421 01:57:44< alink> just because linux use 'unalias' too and that it's not english too
20090421 01:58:36< alink> Polarina: what ":help cover" should display ?
20090421 01:59:04< alink> "cover all units" seems ambiguous
20090421 01:59:31< Polarina> alink: cover all known units
20090421 02:00:15< Polarina> Or "cover all discovered units"
20090421 02:00:18< alink> Polarina: too much bytes used ;-p
20090421 02:00:41< Crab_> he-he :)
20090421 02:01:29< Polarina> alink: "cover all discovered units"
20090421 02:01:33< Polarina> alink: Stick with that and commit.
20090421 02:01:46< alink> Polarina: just use ":alias cover=undiscover" 
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20090421 02:02:04< Polarina> alink: Just fix it, how hard is it?
20090421 02:02:25< ancestral> cover discover?
20090421 02:02:40< Polarina> ancestral: Yes, cover is the opposite of discover.
20090421 02:03:36< Polarina> ancestral: Not undiscover because that would be similar to have the opposite of inability being uninability, which makes no sense.
20090421 02:03:59< alink> Polarina: because I still think that undiscover is more clear and I am still not convinced that it's a problem for a command name
20090421 02:04:19< Polarina> alink: Care to give SVN acces? I can fix it for you.
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20090421 02:04:38< ancestral> Pardon me, but is undiscover a word?
20090421 02:04:41< ancestral> I don't think it is...
20090421 02:04:51< ancestral> ("undiscovered" is)
20090421 02:04:51< Polarina> ancestral: It isn't, but alink used it as a command name.
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20090421 02:05:27< alink> google undiscover = 55500 hits
20090421 02:05:43< ancestral> Look up undiscover in a dictionary and tell me which one you find it in :)
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20090421 02:05:51< alink> and more when bots will find my commit 
20090421 02:05:53< Polarina> google cover = 493000000 hits
20090421 02:06:25< Polarina> ancestral: It isn't in any proper dictionary. But alink doesn't want to fix that. :(
20090421 02:06:36< ancestral> Polarina: That's sad
20090421 02:06:46< Polarina> ancestral: Indeed.
20090421 02:06:59< alink> pffff 
20090421 02:07:51< ancestral> There's a lot of other words you could use... conceal, lose, miss... 
20090421 02:07:53 * alink will go eat a sandwich, he will be in a better mood when not so hungry and will think about this again
20090421 02:08:05< Polarina> alink: Thank you. :)
20090421 02:09:13< alink> ancestral: that's a debug command, do i replace all linux commands by proper english words ?
20090421 02:09:17< alink> but afk now
20090421 02:09:43< ancestral> alink: probably not, I'm just giving you a hard time :) I'll stop and get out of the way
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20090421 02:18:28< corn> Sirp: can I get a full gziped DB dump in SQL format?
20090421 02:19:20< Shadow_Master> IIRC our DB is greater than 0.75 GB
20090421 02:19:28< corn> of stats.wesnoth
20090421 02:19:34< Shadow_Master> or that was just the phpbb3 table, right
20090421 02:19:51< Polarina> I LZMA compress my SQL dumps.
20090421 02:20:15< corn> mmm, even if it is 1 GB I can just download overnight. but the alternative of just duplicating my existing row entries hundreds of times also works
20090421 02:22:09< Shadow_Master> (just for the record, the phpbb3 db is 614.93 MB, apparently uncompressed)
20090421 02:22:26< corn> should be significantly less when you compress it, text compresses really well
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20090421 02:22:56< Shadow_Master> um..
20090421 02:24:05< Shadow_Master> the whole compressed database .tar.bz2 seems to be ~300 MB
20090421 02:24:21< corn> eh, 50% is pretty good
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20090421 02:26:05< Shadow_Master> oh, and before I forget
20090421 02:26:19 * Shadow_Master throws shurikens at Polarina 
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20090421 02:35:40< Polarina> Shadow_Master: ?
20090421 02:37:03< Shadow_Master> that's your daily medicine ;)
20090421 02:37:12< Polarina> Ah.
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20090421 03:02:40< CIA-30> alink * r35093 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: 
20090421 03:02:40< CIA-30> Hide the new ':undiscover' to prevent unwanted clearing of user's progress.
20090421 03:02:40< CIA-30> The fact that it's not an English word is now a feature. It prevent the case
20090421 03:02:40< CIA-30> where an user wanting to shout 'cover' (or another English word) to his
20090421 03:02:40< CIA-30> teammate but hit the 'command' hotkey instead of 'message'. ;-)
20090421 03:07:26< alink> wesbot: log 35091 
20090421 03:07:27< wesbot> alink * r35091 : Since the non-working ":buff" was commented off, do the same for ":unbuff"
20090421 03:07:30< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=35091
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20090421 03:11:06< Polarina> alink: So, you removed that command completely or what?
20090421 03:11:25< Shadow_Master> alink: it never existed
20090421 03:11:26< alink> Polarina: it's a secret
20090421 03:11:32< Shadow_Master> Polarina: 
20090421 03:11:37< Shadow_Master> sorry alink  :P
20090421 03:11:46< alink> Polarina: only CIA-30 knows
20090421 03:11:56< Polarina> alink: I'll just check the diffs.
20090421 03:12:32< alink> Polarina: undiscover what you saw
20090421 03:13:03< Polarina> alink: You commented out that command. :)
20090421 03:13:21 * Polarina gives alink some Holly bears as a reward.
20090421 03:13:25< Polarina> Eat them. :)
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20090421 03:13:43< alink> hehe
20090421 03:13:53< Polarina> alink: Please, eat them.
20090421 03:14:08< alink> Polarina: I prefer that you thank me to have removed :unbuff
20090421 03:14:26< Polarina> alink: Yes, of course.
20090421 03:14:34 * Polarina gives alink more Holly berries.
20090421 03:15:00 * alink eat those ones
20090421 03:15:17 * Polarina watches alink getting sick.
20090421 03:15:37< Polarina> Beginning to feel the nausea?
20090421 03:15:49 * alink is never sick with fruit and vegetables
20090421 03:16:20< Polarina> Holly berries cause vomiting and diarrhea when ingested.
20090421 03:17:01< alink> I don't feel anything
20090421 03:17:14< Polarina> alink: It might take a minute or two.
20090421 03:17:15< alink> maybe virtual holly berries are safe ;-)
20090421 03:17:39< Polarina> This is what they look like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Ilex-aquifolium_(Europaeische_Stechpalme-1.jpg
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20090421 03:18:09 * Shadow_Master pets Polarina 
20090421 03:18:22 * Polarina purrs.
20090421 03:19:32< alink> this plant is very toughfull, it has spines on its leaves to prevent that someone eat its berries and get sick :)
20090421 03:21:31< Polarina> I'm off to bed.
20090421 03:21:33< Polarina> Good night.
20090421 03:21:40< alink> gn Polarina
20090421 03:21:58< Polarina> alink: Enjoy your berries. ;)
20090421 03:22:21 * Shadow_Master takes Polarina and forces her into a box.
20090421 03:22:27< Polarina> :O
20090421 03:22:34< Shadow_Master> time for a walk
20090421 03:22:35 * Polarina screams for help.
20090421 03:22:56< Shadow_Master> that's the last thing those poor abandoned animals hear from their owners
20090421 03:24:18< Polarina> :)
20090421 03:24:48 * Polarina has a total of 8727 mail in her inbox.
20090421 03:25:12 * alink hesitates to rename one of his debug command
20090421 03:25:23< Shadow_Master> alink: which one?
20090421 03:26:54 * Polarina squeaks quietly.
20090421 03:27:07 * alink is kidding but ':sunset' is used to highlight what move on the screen.
20090421 03:27:16< alink> So I was thinking to rename it :Lingulodinium polyedrum dinoflagellate   :-)
20090421 03:27:35< alink> like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN1Yxq8KMsw
20090421 03:27:55< Polarina> alink: Fine. :)
20090421 03:28:00< alink> that's plankton emitting line when disturbed
20090421 03:28:25< Shadow_Master> too long
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20090421 03:28:54< Polarina> What about :flashlight ?
20090421 03:29:01< Shadow_Master> this is not  a how_long_your_command_line_can_be contest, is it?
20090421 03:29:47< alink> Polarina: don't even start, I will not seriously rename all the sunset function in code ;-p
20090421 03:30:11< Polarina> alink: If I send you a diff, would you commit it?
20090421 03:31:12< alink> Polarina: depends, but probably no
20090421 03:31:21< Polarina> Nevermind then. :)
20090421 03:31:57< Polarina> I need to make a patch to contribute sometime soon (no WML).
20090421 03:32:55< Polarina> Good night everyone! :-)
20090421 03:32:56< alink> Polarina: add a spell checker to the message/command textbox ;-p
20090421 03:33:03< Polarina> alink: Interesting.
20090421 03:33:08< Polarina> alink: Would a tab completion do?
20090421 03:33:34< alink> tab completion is probably a wanted feature.
20090421 03:33:43 * Polarina notes it down.
20090421 03:33:46< Polarina> Thank you.
20090421 03:33:51< Polarina> I'll get to that tomorrow.
20090421 03:33:52< Shadow_Master> alink: I want it}
20090421 03:33:56< alink> or do we already have this ?
20090421 03:33:58< Shadow_Master> write that down
20090421 03:34:04< Polarina> Shadow_Master: I did.
20090421 03:34:33< alink> I remember that someone proposed a patch about it; but it had too many bugs or something
20090421 03:35:03 * Polarina sleeps.
20090421 03:35:20< Polarina> I'll read up on the IRC logs tomorrow, keep discussing. :)
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20090421 03:35:52< alink> tab completion for command would be nice
20090421 03:36:05< Shadow_Master> alink: yeah, and killing Polarina
20090421 03:36:18< alink> for the search function too (even if i don't use that one)
20090421 03:36:40< Shadow_Master> but we'll discuss that point in private, since he seems to read the logs ;)
20090421 03:42:12< alink> btw I hope it's obvious but not tab completion against the full English dictionary
20090421 03:42:52 * alink precise because it was mentioned after his idea/joke about a spell checker
20090421 03:59:36< ancestral> Haha
20090421 04:06:54< CIA-30> alink * r35094 /trunk/src/ (6 files): 
20090421 04:06:54< CIA-30> Make the context-menu 'change unit side' allow to change village flag.
20090421 04:06:54< CIA-30> (cycle between teams and free. Supposed to fire the event but not tested)
20090421 04:06:54< CIA-30> Also rename 'Change unit side' to 'Change side' to better reflect this.
20090421 04:06:54< CIA-30> But not sure if not confusing.
20090421 04:08:36 * alink add in early 1.7 all the debug features that he often missed during 1.3 and 1.5 development
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20090421 04:17:43< alink> O_o   testing if  unit_type_data::types().find_unit_type(id) == unit_type_data::types().end() seems to always fail. You also need to test if itor->first == "dummy_unit", but I only see very few such tests
20090421 04:18:37< alink> I realize that the important test is unit_type_data::types().find_unit_type(id) != unit_type_data::types().end()  but such design is potential source of error
20090421 04:19:05< alink> and already causes the bug that i was checking
20090421 04:21:59< alink> and that's not little bug, this dummy unit causes crash
20090421 04:23:52< Sapient> I agree the design is inherently flawed
20090421 04:24:15< alink> wesbot log 25338
20090421 04:24:16< wesbot> jhinrichs * r25338 : Fixes the load game dialog crashing, that triggered an assert because of saves with another era than the currently loaded (might need some more fixing, though, since the unit images are not loaded yet).
20090421 04:24:20< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=25338
20090421 04:26:01< alink> Seems that such little problem is not serious enough to break standard STL schema 
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20090421 04:30:46< alink> A possible hack is to override the ==operator to detect "dummy unit" and make the test against end() meaningful, but it would be better to really clean this
20090421 04:31:23< Sapient> exposing the std::map direcctly seems like a bad choice
20090421 04:31:41< Sapient> instead you can just expose iterators and methods to operate on those iterators
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20090421 04:33:47< [Relic]> Hello :)
20090421 04:34:41< Sapient> :
20090421 04:34:44< Shadow_Master> [Relic]: are you one of those dirty door-to-door salesman?
20090421 04:34:57< [Relic]> of course not I am clean
20090421 04:35:06< Shadow_Master> we don't want your trinkets
20090421 04:35:10< Shadow_Master> shoo
20090421 04:35:26< Shadow_Master> oh, s/salesman/salesmen/  btw.
20090421 04:39:19< alink> ("sale" means dirty in french ;-) 
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20090421 04:41:06< Shadow_Master> alink: what a funny coincidence
20090421 04:43:21< ancestral> sale means "leave" in Spanish :)
20090421 04:43:46< Sapient> but exit means "success"
20090421 04:43:55< [Relic]> everyone in duels wants sink trinkets  :)
20090421 04:44:11< ancestral> sinkets?
20090421 04:44:30< [Relic]> pretty much  :)
20090421 04:44:38< [Relic]> gives you more space for armor and weapons
20090421 04:44:41 * Sapient throws a closing tag at [/Relic]
20090421 04:45:02< Shadow_Master> Sapient: you killed him. You killed Relic!
20090421 04:45:07< Shadow_Master> >.<
20090421 04:45:09< Sapient> ha, I have ended you
20090421 04:45:17< alink> Sapient: take his keys first
20090421 04:45:24< Sapient> lol
20090421 04:45:40 * Shadow_Master throws sugar packet at Sapient --------> #
20090421 04:45:58< Sapient> I gotsta go; later :p
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20090421 04:46:28< shikadibot> ow. What's this... sugar?
20090421 04:46:43< alink> no it's a WML comment ;-p
20090421 04:47:00< Shadow_Master> and some invalid syntax at the left
20090421 04:47:09< [Relic]> :)
20090421 04:50:52< alink> wesbot log 31715 
20090421 04:50:52< wesbot> cib * r31715 : bug #12780: fixed a bug where a function to get a unit type was checked against returning the end of the vector, when actually it would return a dummy unit, by replacing it with a new function
20090421 04:50:56< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31715
20090421 04:51:04< alink> wesbot log 31902
20090421 04:51:05< wesbot> ilor * r31902 : work around yet another case of the wonderful dummy unit undefined behaviour
20090421 04:51:08< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=31902
20090421 04:51:19< alink> seems that this dummy unit hack amready caused problems in the past
20090421 04:51:29< alink> s/amready/already
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20090421 04:58:00< alink> gn
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20090421 05:00:35 * Shadow_Master resurrects from a kernel crash
20090421 05:01:04< Shadow_Master> let's see... no clues in the system logs, and the BIOS locked up itself after rebooting with sysrq
20090421 05:01:57< Shadow_Master> with a gigantic blinking console cursor
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20090421 05:18:09< Shadow_Master> sudo reboot
20090421 05:19:14< dfranke> Password:
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20090421 05:21:27< Shadow_Master> WesnothSucks
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20090421 05:21:53< Shadow_Master> echo ';)'
20090421 05:24:11< Shadow_Master> (just attempting to fry another motherboard...)
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20090421 05:27:55< Sirp> corn: http://www.wesnoth.org/files/dave/stats-db-dump-20090420.gz
20090421 05:31:16< corn> Sirp: thx
20090421 05:31:55< ancestral> corn syrup? :D
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20090421 05:32:06< corn> is just as good as sugar ;)
20090421 05:38:42 * Blueblaze greatly disagrees
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20090421 07:16:17< Shadow_Master> a substantial part of my /usr kinda died :(
20090421 07:17:48< Shadow_Master> apparently, fortunately (?) the only apps that are affected by the destroyed libraries are... KDE, pretty much most of it; Eclipse, which I need for my homework, and Python, all of it
20090421 07:18:04< Shadow_Master> s/Eclipse/Anything That Uses Pango/
20090421 07:19:44< Shadow_Master> wrong channel. I now know better about channel naming schemes, for the next time I make my own..
20090421 07:23:36< ancestral> Sleepy? http://xkcd.com/571/
20090421 07:33:26< Shadow_Master> why is he using short integers?
20090421 07:34:35< Shadow_Master> ... I should've tee'd the fsck output. It was "funny" in the tragedic sense.
20090421 07:34:43< Shadow_Master> lots of libraries turned into character devices ;)
20090421 07:38:24< dfranke> ouch.  A kernel panic did *that*?
20090421 07:39:11< dfranke> Shadow_Master: sounds like memtest86 time.
20090421 07:39:17< Shadow_Master> dfranke: not sure. I had a lockup while testing some ACPI settings, so I rebooted - the system's BIOS locked up, so I turned off and on again.
20090421 07:39:37< Shadow_Master> the system started fine. I was doing some stuff when KDE started crashing
20090421 07:39:57< Shadow_Master> ldconfig was not amused: http://rafb.net/p/qt5Vnf63.html
20090421 07:40:27< dfranke> wow.
20090421 07:40:43< dfranke> That is seriously hosed.
20090421 07:41:11< dfranke> that looks even more fun than when I accidentally booted two VMs simultaneously off the same disk image.
20090421 07:41:36< Shadow_Master> I forced a reboot afterwards but fsck didn't really detect anything wrong until I used tune2fs to force a check on /usr, / and /home on the next reboot.
20090421 07:42:05< dfranke> is this ext2 or ext3?
20090421 07:42:09< Shadow_Master> ext3
20090421 07:42:20< dfranke> sheesh
20090421 07:42:47< Shadow_Master> I didn't know that ext2/3 supported a "compressed" flag; fsck also removed a bunch of those
20090421 07:42:59< Shadow_Master> for being "unsupported". huh
20090421 07:43:10< dfranke> yeah.  There's a bit for it in the fs but it's not used.
20090421 07:43:58< dfranke> "Stale NFS file handle"???
20090421 07:44:08< Shadow_Master> yeah. weird.
20090421 07:44:30< Shadow_Master> the kernel log got flooded with stuff like "kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (55000)"
20090421 07:44:38< dfranke> you sure you didn't do 'mount /dev/urandom /' or something? :-)
20090421 07:44:48< Shadow_Master> no :P
20090421 07:45:06< Shadow_Master> no, I didn't, unless Iceweasel decided to do it while I was browsing the offline cache
20090421 07:49:20< Shadow_Master> but I guess it could be that a wild module wrote in the wrong memory location? I should probably blacklist drm and radeon
20090421 07:49:29< Shadow_Master> *kernel module
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20090421 07:50:12< dfranke> that's the only thing I can imagine besides bad RAM.  And in the case of bad RAM the timing seems a bit coincidental for it to strike.
20090421 07:52:48< Shadow_Master> it seems I'm ready to go to university to do my homework now that I recovered Pango and aRtsd
20090421 07:53:55< Shadow_Master> e.g. I can run KDE and java applications again - which is kind of essential if you are forced to take an introductory programming course using java, huh? ;)
20090421 07:55:00< Shadow_Master> I'll let wmllint tell me with time whether I restored Python to sanity or not ;)
20090421 07:56:14< Shadow_Master> the lost+found directory is plenty of random Python bytecode files. Wait, perhaps this is a sign that Python _is evil_=
20090421 07:56:46< Shadow_Master> and that therefore I shouldn't be using it? Or perhaps I really need to get my daily ~4 hours of sleep now
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20090421 09:23:05< euschn> hi
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20090421 10:12:52< Ivanovic> moin
20090421 10:13:25< euschn> hey Ivanovic
20090421 10:14:52< YogiHH> hi Ivanovic 
20090421 10:15:28< Ivanovic> someone please tell me why i got up this early
20090421 10:15:34< Ivanovic> the sun is still shining outside...
20090421 10:15:59< YogiHH> Ivanovic: it's called "group pressure" :-P
20090421 10:16:13< ilor> Ivanovic: maybe you confused weeks and hours again and set your alarm clock wrong? ;)
20090421 10:16:38< YogiHH> you feel guilty if you stay in bed and all the others have to get up ;-)
20090421 10:20:52< Ivanovic> no, neither of those
20090421 10:20:59< Ivanovic> was not using a alarm clock
20090421 10:21:11< Ivanovic> and guilt is something i don't know about...
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20090421 11:18:23< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35095 /branches/1.6/po/ (7 files in 6 dirs): updated Icelandic and Italian translation
20090421 11:18:33< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35096 /trunk/po/ (7 files in 6 dirs): updated Icelandic and Italian translation
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20090421 12:35:18< Ivanovic> hmm, the bugtracker wants to play tricks on me...
20090421 12:35:38< Ivanovic> which status do you see for this report? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13399
20090421 12:36:00< Ivanovic> in theory status should be "None", assigned to should be "mordante" and release should be "1.6+"
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20090421 12:38:11< Crab_> hi
20090421 12:38:41< YogiHH> Ivanovic: Status: Need Info, Assigned to None, Release 1.4+
20090421 12:38:48< Ivanovic> grml
20090421 12:38:56 * Ivanovic swears a little about the tracker
20090421 12:39:09< Ivanovic> that is: Soliton already tried to change the values and now i did so, too
20090421 12:39:15< Ivanovic> and it does not want to use them...
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20090421 12:53:21< Crab_> Ivanovic: strange. how it looks like now ? I've tried to change status and assigned...
20090421 12:54:04< YogiHH> Crab_: looks alright now
20090421 12:54:50< Crab_> YogiHH: i changed the value to "something else" and then reset it to the right value. But, this trick hasn't worked with release :(
20090421 12:55:19< Crab_> maybe it is *set* to the right value but is suffering from *stale cache* issues of sorts ?
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20090421 14:11:01< Shadow_Master> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=353356#p353356
20090421 14:11:31< Shadow_Master> sorry,but I can't avoid wondering about those translations' quality :-/
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20090421 15:03:12< euschn> YogiHH: I set up a plan for the current and next week at http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeProposal_Euschn#Detailed_per-week_timeline . Is this anything like what you had in mind?
20090421 15:03:33< euschn> I admit its not a lot of tasks, but as im hard-pressed with uni stuff its realistic
20090421 15:04:44< euschn> task 4 assumes that you have committed some changes to the savegame system since I had a look at it 1-2 weeks ago
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20090421 15:13:15< Ivanovic> euschn: why not take an existing mp campaign (that makes problems)?
20090421 15:13:49< Ivanovic> euschn: and have you already talked to problems with the "forum folks" about known problems for mp campaigns?
20090421 15:14:26< euschn> Ivanovic: the idea was to get an mp campaign as simple as possible for testing
20090421 15:14:45< Ivanovic> short guess about stuff that might lead to problems:
20090421 15:14:56< Ivanovic> 1) stuff where "random elements" are involved
20090421 15:14:58< euschn> but you are right, I should of course look at current campaigns and post the forums
20090421 15:15:03< Ivanovic> 2) stuff depending on choices in dialogs
20090421 15:15:27< Ivanovic> (disclaimer: this is *only* a guess and i don't know it for sure)
20090421 15:15:42< euschn> Ivanovic: ok, that makes sense
20090421 15:16:54< Ivanovic> "in the old days" rhuaven knew a lot about the mp campaign stuff, no idea if he is still around every now and then
20090421 15:17:14< Ivanovic> and right before 1.4 mordante implemented some fixes, though those were already broken again in 1.5.0...
20090421 15:17:30< Ivanovic> (as in: fragile area, easy to brake)
20090421 15:18:30< euschn> Ivanovic: thanks for the info, Im currently checking out a forum post by rhuaven I found on the wiki
20090421 15:20:44< Crab_> euschn: and talk to ilor, some of the stuff in his GSoC goal list is related to MP protocol, too.
20090421 15:21:30< euschn> Crab_: ok I will, thanks
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20090421 15:46:46< YogiHH> euschn: will have a look at it soon
20090421 15:48:42< euschn> YogiHH: thanks
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20090421 15:56:38< YogiHH> euschn: very nice, looks good
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20090421 15:57:27< Ivanovic> Crab_: btw i added you in the developer group in the forums (since you got commit access now)
20090421 15:57:46< Ivanovic> though you probably won't notice it anway, since you ain't using the forums...
20090421 15:57:47< Ivanovic> ;)
20090421 15:59:00< Crab_> Ivanovic: ok. thanks. this also means that I'm free to move myself to "programmers" section of data/core/about.cfg ?   I'm not writing at the forum, but I read it a bit.
20090421 15:59:03< YogiHH> euschn: regarding mp campaigns, i'd try to get in contact with TL (forum account), creator of "The world conquest". If possible i would prefer to have an experienced WML designer to do the test campaign and provide it as an add-on. Maybe you can ask him to do that.
20090421 15:59:11< Ivanovic> sure
20090421 15:59:21< Ivanovic> i think you commited enough by now to warrent this
20090421 15:59:23< Ivanovic> ;)
20090421 15:59:28< Crab_> :)
20090421 15:59:29< YogiHH> euschn: There is a lot of stuff you can stumble upon regarding WML.
20090421 16:00:30< YogiHH> euschn: And yes, i did some more changes to the savegame code, mainly moving stuff from gamestatus.cpp to savegame.cpp. The commit comments will tell what i did.
20090421 16:12:47< euschn> YogiHH: thanks for the tips, I will look into that. I agree that an experienced campaign author would provide a better test campaign. One idea about doing it myself was to get into creating campaigns a bit to better understand those problems
20090421 16:19:30< YogiHH> euschn: i see, i just fear that you will spend a lot of time just to figure out how to integrate a campaign into the wesnoth environment.
20090421 16:19:59< YogiHH> euschn: I have never done it myself, but i have seen on the forum that it is not really trivial
20090421 16:21:16< euschn> YogiHH: I see
20090421 16:29:34< Ivanovic> YogiHH: uhm, integrating a campaign is rather simple
20090421 16:29:45< Ivanovic> just drop the folder with all the stuff in the userdata dir
20090421 16:29:47< Ivanovic> ;)
20090421 16:33:38< YogiHH> Ivanovic: that's great, than you can provide that stuff to euschn :-P
20090421 16:35:01< Ivanovic> YogiHH: the *initial setup* is: get comparable content from the addon server and modify it"
20090421 16:35:26< Ivanovic> though doing so is a problematic thing since it ends with "lots of work" to make it a well worth example for later tests
20090421 16:36:14< YogiHH> Ivanovic: I am sure such an experienced guy as you can do it in no time ;-)
20090421 16:36:49< Ivanovic> YogiHH: and because we all know that i *can* do it, i don't have to prove it to anyone, right?
20090421 16:36:51< Ivanovic> ^^
20090421 16:37:02< euschn> hehe
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20090421 17:25:14< Ivanovic> Crab_: you could check if changing the abstract works now
20090421 17:26:10 * Crab_ checks...
20090421 17:26:26< Crab_> "Error - This page is inactive at this time. "
20090421 17:26:38< Ivanovic> :(
20090421 17:28:00< Ivanovic> time for me to head off and do some sports, cu
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20090421 19:43:20< Polarina> 03:36 <Shadow_Master> but we'll discuss that point in private, since he seems to read the logs ;)
20090421 19:43:56< Crab_> Polarina: hehe, so you have *discovered* their plot :)
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20090421 19:44:37< mordante> hi
20090421 19:45:04< YogiHH> hello mordante
20090421 19:45:07< mordante> hi YogiHH 
20090421 19:47:11 * mordante gives Polarina a newsspeak dictionary so she can look up undiscover ;-)
20090421 19:51:04< ilor> hi mordante
20090421 19:51:25< mordante> hi ilor 
20090421 19:51:27< ilor> mordante: any initial thoughts on my gsoc project?
20090421 19:52:45< mordante> ilor, well I want to talk about gsoc later, do you have time in about half an hour?
20090421 19:53:00< ilor> mordante: no problem I should be here for a while
20090421 19:53:09< ilor> just ping me
20090421 19:53:31< mordante> good, I need to do some other things then I can do my favourite thing... let the computer work ;-)
20090421 19:59:15< YogiHH> ilor: i take it that you wrote the console_handler, mainly?
20090421 19:59:41< ilor> YogiHH: I can apologize if you want me to
20090421 20:00:10< YogiHH> ilor: maybe later ;-). For now i just want to know what the primary purpose of that code is.
20090421 20:00:26< ilor> handling :commands and /commands
20090421 20:00:40< YogiHH> why would i want to do that from the console if i have a menu command for it?
20090421 20:00:54< ilor> do "what"?
20090421 20:01:02< YogiHH> for example save a game
20090421 20:01:12< ilor> there's no menu command for a lot of the commands
20090421 20:01:51< ilor> and well, I haven't really added commands, just changed how the handling works (so there could be auto-generated help)
20090421 20:02:08< YogiHH> this works with the ingame command line, right?
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20090421 20:02:30< ilor> yes, and another bit of it does / chat commands
20090421 20:02:38< ilor> : are a superset of /
20090421 20:03:01< ilor> and the coude could be a lot simpler but nobody smacked me while I was writing it :/
20090421 20:03:18< YogiHH> simpler in which way?
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20090421 20:04:16< ilor> use boost function and instead of the template and inheritance madness
20090421 20:04:24< YogiHH> ah, i see
20090421 20:04:47< YogiHH> the console commands that mirror the menu commands, are they supposed to work the same way?
20090421 20:05:03< ilor> YogiHH: not sure, I didn;t touch the how-they-work
20090421 20:05:27< YogiHH> so they are not meant to for example support automatic testing or such?
20090421 20:05:48< ilor> I don't know anything about it
20090421 20:06:11< YogiHH> well, if you don't, then nobody else does, probably :-)
20090421 20:07:06< ilor> on the other hand some vi maniac did write the :wq thing and friends, you just need to find who it was ;)
20090421 20:07:17< YogiHH> ilor: hmm, and you did it to auto-generate help? How does that work?
20090421 20:07:58< ilor> yes the auto-help is mine, it works by keeping a structure of commands which have a name and description
20090421 20:08:39< ilor> basically register_command fills that structure and it's later used for command handling and help
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20090421 20:17:22< YogiHH> ilor: get_data() is evaluating the command arguments, i suppose?
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20090421 20:18:50< ilor> YogiHH: yeah it's the entire string after the command name
20090421 20:19:36< ilor> it's there because some commands don't have space-delimited args, only one large arg
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20090421 20:25:39< alink> hi
20090421 20:27:52< CIA-30> alink * r35097 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: 
20090421 20:27:52< CIA-30> When used on a village, make debug actions 'create unit' and 'change side'
20090421 20:27:52< CIA-30> (of a unit) capture the village (better for debug and prevent impossible cases)
20090421 20:28:16< Crab_> alink: thanks for fixing this )
20090421 20:28:35< mordante> hi alink 
20090421 20:28:43< alink> Crab_: np it annoyed me since a long time :)
20090421 20:28:49< alink> 'lo mordante
20090421 20:35:12< CIA-30> alink * r35098 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: fix missing space and typo in comment in previous commit
20090421 20:35:32< Soliton> i think we should seriously consider a different format for attacks, maybe this one: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=353393#p353393
20090421 20:37:30< alink> interesting
20090421 20:40:03 * alink also likes a simple '4x5' but maybe less clear (x seems commutative and @ is not which is better for this)
20090421 20:41:12< ilor> I'd prefer a 4 x 5HP 
20090421 20:43:19< alink> it's indeed better 
20090421 20:45:57< Crab_> 4 x 5HP is not good. "5HP x 4' is better
20090421 20:46:26< Crab_> or simply "5 x4" (note the asymmetry)
20090421 20:46:58< ilor> 5 x4 is still debatable, and I'd rather not change the current order of the numbers
20090421 20:47:15< Crab_> ilor current order is "damage-number_of_strikes"
20090421 20:47:29< ilor> see, I get confused by this as well
20090421 20:47:44< ilor> then 5HP x 4 gets my vote :)
20090421 20:48:13< ilor> imo adding the HP bit clears up a lot of the confusion
20090421 20:48:16< Crab_> ilor: why not "5hp x 4" ?
20090421 20:49:06< ilor> hp HP -- irrelevant difference, I'd just stick to whatever we use already
20090421 20:49:21< CIA-30> jhinrichs * r35099 /trunk/src/savegame.cpp: 
20090421 20:49:21< CIA-30> Savegame reorganization Step 1: Providing a simpler interface to saving and loading.
20090421 20:49:21< CIA-30> Doesn't make much sense to create a filename if it is provided. This code might have had some use earlier on while refactoring, but doesn't anymore.
20090421 20:49:22< alink> indeed he also changed numbers order in his proposal, and it confused me too
20090421 20:50:33< ilor> I'm strongly against changing the order
20090421 20:50:45< alink> ilor: yes me too
20090421 20:50:50< Crab_> ilor: note that current string only contains the useful info. if you have "5HP x 4", that's harder to read then 5-4, if you *know* what number is first. 
20090421 20:51:00< Crab_> s/then/than
20090421 20:51:32< alink> ilor: which is then a serious point against using @
20090421 20:51:37< Crab_> because "HP" is the same height as  the number, and "-" is smaller
20090421 20:52:25< ilor> Crab_: the HP could be made a smaller font or whatever. still it'd be better because there'd be no doubt
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20090421 20:52:50< Crab_> ilor: that's why I asked about your opinion on "hp"
20090421 20:53:05< Crab_> also note that there's already a tooltip...
20090421 20:53:16< Crab_> which will say "5 damage 4 attacks"
20090421 20:53:19< ilor> nbody expects the tooltip
20090421 20:53:29< ilor> to paraphrase. I never noticed it
20090421 20:55:24< Crab_> question: can we use any utf8 symbol there ?
20090421 20:55:40< alink> note that changing font size of HP in the middle of the string is some work to do in various places. But maybe when the pango stuff will be done, it will be easier
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20090421 20:56:13< Crab_> alink: lowercase "hp" will work, too.
20090421 20:56:30< Crab_> 1hp 2hp 3hp 4hp 5hp 6hp 7hp 8hp 9hp 10hp
20090421 20:56:54< Crab_> compare with "1HP 2HP 3HP 4HP 5HP 6HP 7HP 8HP 9HP 10HP"
20090421 20:56:59< Ivanovic> alink: with pango it should be possible to offer some "origsize+1" or such
20090421 20:57:22< alink> Crab_: yeah indeed, i was just pointing that there is one more reason to use 'hp'
20090421 20:58:13< Crab_> or "dmg".  something like  "9dmg - 3" or "9dmg x 3"
20090421 20:58:43< alink> Ivanovic:  allow to add markup in the middle of the string is already enough, which the current markup system doesn't allow
20090421 20:58:53< thespaceinvader> didn't melon make a little symbol for health?
20090421 20:58:57< thespaceinvader> maybe we could use that
20090421 20:59:12< mordante> the new one will
20090421 20:59:43< alink> mordante: cool :)
20090421 20:59:46< mordante> Crab_, nice fiddling around with bug reports today, had a mailbox full of modifications
20090421 21:00:00< mordante> alink, no eta when it will happen :-(
20090421 21:00:03< alink> Crab_: yes me too:)
20090421 21:00:13< Crab_> mordante: yes, gna was behaving a big buggy ...
20090421 21:00:27< mordante> yeah read the logs
20090421 21:00:41< Crab_> so i tried to tinker with it a bit
20090421 21:00:53< alink> mordante: btw don't forget to check the other markup in help
20090421 21:01:11< mordante> I won't ;-)
20090421 21:01:34< Crab_> i've managed to give it correct "assigned" and "status", but "release" is still 1.4+ :(
20090421 21:01:44< mordante> just RL is eating a lot of time lately and gsoc another large piece
20090421 21:02:04< mordante> well at least I know it's 1.6+ ;-)
20090421 21:02:25< mordante> and that it's only tested on Win + Mac and not on Linux 
20090421 21:02:59< alink> mordante: ok, just mention it because i fear that the hyperlink markup in help will prevent to fully replace the help markup system by pango stuff
20090421 21:03:19< _teddy> Ivanovic: a question about NR campaign.  Is it true that "evil" branch inactive now and not seen by user?
20090421 21:03:26< mordante> I've to se what I can do about that
20090421 21:03:37< mordante> _teddy, yes it's not finished yet :-(
20090421 21:04:11< mordante> ilor, ping
20090421 21:04:56< _teddy> I mean, its string are present in po files and translators are supposed to work on them, despite no player will ever see them.
20090421 21:05:47< _teddy> So is it possible to remove them until the branch is playable?
20090421 21:06:34< mordante> I thought we already did that... guess not
20090421 21:06:55< mordante> and IMO it should be disabled unless somebody wants to finish the undead branch
20090421 21:07:03 * mordante looks at esr 
20090421 21:07:18< Ivanovic> _teddy: removing them now *if* it really is eventually finished would be bad
20090421 21:07:28< Ivanovic> since some translations regulary clean up the "no longer active" strings
20090421 21:07:40< Ivanovic> and their work would then be lost when it gets in again
20090421 21:07:59< mordante> true but it should either be finished or removed
20090421 21:08:18< mordante> Taurus is not likely to do so
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20090421 21:10:21< ilor> mordante pong
20090421 21:11:08< _teddy> Ivanovic: it might be separated (with its translations) from main branch and moved at add-on server until it is finished. 
20090421 21:11:37< _teddy> So translations won't be lost
20090421 21:12:10< Ivanovic> _teddy: still difficult to nicely merge things later on
20090421 21:12:28< Ivanovic> but in general possible (moving to wescamp, not the addon server that is)
20090421 21:15:01< mordante> ilor, when do you want to start with your gsoc project and how are your exams this year?
20090421 21:16:11< ilor> mordante: I think I will start some of the initial stuff soon, and regarding my exams I'm nt sure yet
20090421 21:16:14< mordante> brb
20090421 21:16:41< ilor> one thing that's nice is that while I will have exams, all the projects I have to do this semester are due in May 
20090421 21:17:47< ilor> I can manage doing some gsoc work and studying much better than I can manage doing another coding project at the same time, which was the case early June last year
20090421 21:17:53< fendrin> mordante: what is wrong with the branch?
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20090421 21:20:13< Soliton> fendrin: it doesn't work..
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20090421 21:20:42< silene> hi
20090421 21:22:04< CIA-30> jhinrichs * r35100 /trunk/src/ (savegame.cpp savegame.hpp): 
20090421 21:22:04< CIA-30> Savegame reorganization Step 1: Providing a simpler interface to saving and loading.
20090421 21:22:04< CIA-30> Rename interactive_ to show_confirmation_, thus better describing its task.
20090421 21:22:10< mordante> hi silene 
20090421 21:22:11< YogiHH> hi silene
20090421 21:22:21< mordante> fendrin, not finished and thus disabled
20090421 21:23:22< mordante> sounds nice ilor 
20090421 21:23:45< mordante> I didn't manage to do much the last weeks so the minimap and tabs are not finished yet
20090421 21:23:50< ilor> mordante: in general, I have two uni projects "in progress" right now and one I'll have to start in a few weeks
20090421 21:24:07< ilor> one of those in progress ones is basically due next week so will be done soon ;)
20090421 21:24:13< mordante> and I'm not sure how much time I have the next weeks
20090421 21:24:34< mordante> (I know I won't be around some days, but not sure yet how much...)
20090421 21:24:40< ilor> all 3 I'm doing in teams of 2 or 3 people and that helps too
20090421 21:25:01< mordante> :-)
20090421 21:25:14< ilor> esp. since it's with the same people so we're motivated not to screw one another ;)
20090421 21:25:38< mordante> :-)
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20090421 21:56:38< CIA-30> jhinrichs * r35101 /trunk/src/savegame.hpp: 
20090421 21:56:38< CIA-30> Savegame reorganization Step 1: Providing a simpler interface to saving and loading.
20090421 21:56:38< CIA-30> Add further comments to savegame.hpp.
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20090421 22:30:14< mordante> I'm off night
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20090421 22:56:38< CIA-30> silene * r35102 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added some Lua accessors to unit data.
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20090421 23:05:59< boucman> hey all
20090421 23:06:10< Crab_> hi boucman
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20090421 23:16:13< CIA-30> jhinrichs * r35103 /trunk/src/ (5 files): 
20090421 23:16:13< CIA-30> Savegame reorganization Step 1: Providing a simpler interface to saving and loading.
20090421 23:16:13< CIA-30> Remove autosaving from menu_handler.
20090421 23:23:01< boucman> Crab_: so, how did it go today ?
20090421 23:23:44< Crab_> boucman: moving forward with new "ai move" implementation, but still not finished
20090421 23:23:56< boucman> ok
20090421 23:24:16< boucman> any unexpected problem, or the usual "default_ai is a mess"
20090421 23:25:08< Crab_> but "today" is not yet for me over - i am usually awake till 4am localtime (1:00 gmt)
20090421 23:25:18< Crab_> s/for me over/over for me
20090421 23:25:25< boucman> hehe
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20090421 23:35:38< silene> Crab_: i seem to remember you recently modified the input box for formulaai purpose; where is located this code? (i may consider doing the same for lua)
20090421 23:36:12< boucman> we need a generic "command box" thingy for commands and FAI, with history and stuff...
20090421 23:36:55< Crab_> silene: no, i haven't touched the input box. i've done a small 100-line hack in order to intercept some commands and give myself basic "repeat-that-command" capabilities.
20090421 23:38:01< silene> i don't care :-) where is that hack?
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20090421 23:38:14< Crab_> silene: ai/ai_manager.?pp
20090421 23:38:35< silene> oh? you were able to intercept things from inside an ai file?
20090421 23:39:26< Crab_> silene: no, the control is passed there from ./menu_events.cpp:2971
20090421 23:40:15< silene> thanks
20090421 23:41:16< Crab_> and that is called from ./play_controller.cpp +676
20090421 23:43:29< silene> this is really a mess, you had to modify at least 4 files to get something usable
20090421 23:43:54< Crab_> silene: afaik, a lot more that 4 files, if you want a new hotkey :))
20090421 23:45:29< Crab_> silene: a quicker way is to "add" your stuff to existing command mode... make ":lua some_code_..." execute lua command
20090421 23:45:51< YogiHH> boucman: have you ever tried to make a dialog with the new window toolkit?
20090421 23:45:58< boucman> no
20090421 23:46:21< silene> Crab_: right, it's probably less intrusive
20090421 23:46:42< Crab_> silene: or you may try to find the commit that added the formula ai console
20090421 23:46:50< Crab_> silene: and duplicate all that was done then
20090421 23:47:14< YogiHH> boucman: hmm, there is a good documentation in the wiki, but it seems to miss some kind of "walkthrough to make a new dialog". Guess i will have to collect some experience by myself, then :-)
20090421 23:48:19< YogiHH> off to bed, good night everyone
20090421 23:48:44< silene> YogiHH: you can start by adding a file there: data/gui/default/window/
20090421 23:49:30< YogiHH> silene: yes, i checked that out already. What i don't know is, where that file gets read in, if it has to have the same name as the dialog class and stuff like that.
20090421 23:50:14< silene> YogiHH: the file is read automatically, and the important field is the "id" one
20090421 23:50:31< Crab_> silene: ah no, that "commit that added formula ai console" is too big.... (r24256)
20090421 23:50:41< YogiHH> silene: so "id" has to match the class name?
20090421 23:51:39< silene> YogiHH: no it just has to match the name you will use to display the window
20090421 23:52:12< YogiHH> silene: ok, i will try and check that out tomorrow. Thanks so far.
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20090421 23:59:37< boucman> Crab_: when do you expect to be ready to commit the move part (just plaaning wrt  my availability)
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