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20090408 04:08:49< Shadow_Master> JW1: what's up?
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20090408 04:25:34< JW1> Shadow_Master: yo, nm
20090408 04:25:39< JW1> trying out Jet's game
20090408 04:26:12< Shadow_Master> nm == ?  I thought you wanted to talk with me.
20090408 04:26:33< voris> did observers ever mess up a MP game if they didn't have the era?
20090408 04:26:48< JW1> Shadow_Master: ah, it had to do with veresion numbering
20090408 04:27:08< JW1> Shadow_Master: how does the 'update addons' feature work exactly?
20090408 04:27:39< voris> More to the point, does the version number we put in the .pbl have anything to do with it?
20090408 04:27:48< Shadow_Master> yup
20090408 04:28:33< voris> So how does it tell if it should update the era of myths which uses "epsilon 4" as it's current number?
20090408 04:28:39< voris> Or does it?
20090408 04:28:39< voris> :)
20090408 04:29:07< Shadow_Master> "epsilon 4" == "0.0.0epsilon 4"
20090408 04:29:12< voris> nice
20090408 04:29:20< voris> so it'll never update
20090408 04:29:29< Shadow_Master> probably, depends on the earlier number
20090408 04:29:57< voris> is "Beta 10.0.4" == "10.0.4"?
20090408 04:29:58< Shadow_Master> voris: nonetheless, add-ons with non standard version numbers such as "foobar 123" are not allowed in 1.6.x
20090408 04:30:01< Shadow_Master> no.
20090408 04:30:17< voris> Well sure, that's what I *thought* was the case.
20090408 04:30:24< voris> But then saw all those oddities.
20090408 04:30:34< JW1> Shadow_Master: what about 'epsilon 4 (0.5.5)'?
20090408 04:30:36< voris> So they're clearly not being rejected.
20090408 04:30:40< Shadow_Master> JW1: no.
20090408 04:30:43< JW1> (0.5.4)*
20090408 04:30:58< JW1> so must the number go first?
20090408 04:31:01< Shadow_Master> the format must be x1.x2.x3.[...].xn or Odd things happen
20090408 04:31:04< JW1> in order for the feature to work
20090408 04:31:14< Shadow_Master> yeah, the numbers must go first and undecorated
20090408 04:31:29< voris> So trailing "c" or whatever like 1.5c is fine from the sounds of it.
20090408 04:31:39< Shadow_Master> yeah. 1.5 < 1.5c
20090408 04:32:00< voris> and 1.5a < 1.5c?
20090408 04:32:04< Shadow_Master> yeah
20090408 04:32:06< voris> great
20090408 04:32:20< Shadow_Master> 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 > 1.0 too
20090408 04:32:38< JW1> so....
20090408 04:32:44< JW1> it takes into account letters?
20090408 04:32:45< voris> haha
20090408 04:32:50< voris> good lord
20090408 04:32:56< Blueblaze> 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1a < 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1c
20090408 04:33:11< Blueblaze> 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1a > 1.0c
20090408 04:33:15< voris> if anyone submits 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 I'm totally looking up where they live to go bitchslap them. ;)
20090408 04:34:01< Shadow_Master> Blueblaze: ,no, the latter won't be true
20090408 04:34:06< Blueblaze> it should
20090408 04:34:12< Shadow_Master> why?
20090408 04:34:15< Blueblaze> Because there is a 1
20090408 04:34:18< Blueblaze> a second 1 :p
20090408 04:34:23< Shadow_Master> ah wait, I read it backwards :P
20090408 04:34:27< Blueblaze> :)
20090408 04:38:21< JW1> so....does it only take into account 1 letter Shadow_Master?
20090408 04:39:27< Shadow_Master> no. It takes into account anything counting from the first character (from left to right) that isn't a dot or a number
20090408 04:39:57< JW1> ...
20090408 04:40:08< JW1> why must it be this way....
20090408 04:41:57< JW1> well
20090408 04:42:00< JW1> I must be going
20090408 04:42:06< JW1> beers won't drink themselves....
20090408 04:42:10< JW1> adios
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20090408 15:26:11< happygrue> Turuk: is it possible to add a contact field in the forum profile for IRC handle?
20090408 15:26:23< happygrue> or best to do that in a sig?
20090408 15:26:41< happygrue> I see jabber, ICQ, AIM, etc
20090408 15:26:53< happygrue> but those are not as useful for us as knowing who the person is on IRC I think
20090408 15:27:05< happygrue> Shadow_Master: also directed at you
20090408 15:39:59< Turuk> I believe so happygrue, I'll have to check with Shadow_Master
20090408 15:40:27< happygrue> That would be useful for only a few people, but I would like it :)
20090408 15:40:37< happygrue> otherwise I can just put it in my sig, not a big deal either way.
20090408 15:41:22< Turuk> Yeah, I do think it's a good idea, as some of the developers do have different IRC names
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20090408 15:46:18< Gauteamus> Hmm, I get a "could not connect to host" message when trying to log on the standard server
20090408 15:46:33< Gauteamus> are you able to log on the mp-server?
20090408 15:47:13< happygrue> Gauteamus: use one of the alternates
20090408 15:47:24< happygrue> main server is down atm
20090408 15:47:27< Turuk> Happygrue broke the main server
20090408 15:47:35< happygrue> with my might jaws!
20090408 15:47:38< happygrue> *mighy
20090408 15:47:39< Gauteamus> ok, thanks for inforamtion :-)
20090408 15:47:48< Turuk> :)
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20090408 18:35:42< Turuk> Who wants to sell me a car? Anyone? Sigh, I didn't think so
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20090408 19:05:47< noy> Turuk: what sort of car?
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20090408 19:54:48< noy> _ping_: I'm not sure if donkeynoobtrash is joking, but I got under his skin. 
20090408 19:55:07< noy> He kinda deserves it though. 
20090408 19:55:43< _ping_> i dont follow you what is he saying?
20090408 19:57:26< zookeeper> noy, well, at least you're not using a scandinavian passive aggressive style there :p
20090408 19:57:35< noy> Oh I made negative comments at him for his generally poor gameplay. You've played with him before, right?
20090408 19:58:16< _ping_> never seen that nick before
20090408 19:58:20< noy> zookeeper: I take from the American school of aggressiveness; as blatant as possible.
20090408 19:58:31< noy> really ping? He plays alot in the evening. 
20090408 19:58:37< noy> (my evening)
20090408 19:58:43< noy> ie when you play with me. 
20090408 19:58:55< _ping_> well i would remeber a nick like that, maybe he uses another
20090408 19:59:10< _ping_> +m
20090408 19:59:23< noy> no, he uses it fairly constantly 
20090408 19:59:33< noy> Donkey_noob_trash
20090408 19:59:46< _ping_> well i can say for sure i never played with that nick before
20090408 20:00:53< _ping_> zookeeper: scandinavian passive aggressive style what is that? :)
20090408 20:01:15< zookeeper> ask noy :|
20090408 20:01:19< noy> Its a joke 
20090408 20:02:07< noy> earlier zookeeper was replying to my messages with "Yawns" and statements like "I'm bored." So I called it his scandinavian passive agressive style 
20090408 20:02:30< _ping_> it okay i from scandinavian we like jokes (even about our self:)
20090408 20:03:15< noy> because we know how you like to avoid conflict and all
20090408 20:03:23< _ping_> our prime mister even had to appologies for a joke (which in it self is a joke)
20090408 20:04:44< noy> _ping_: sounds like canadians
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20090408 20:07:34< _ping_> the most funny thing about it was that it was not even his own joke anyway i found a fun website ti read jokes http://www.jesusandmo.net/
20090408 20:09:23< noy> _ping_: ignore my PM in wesnoth... I'm testing a bug
20090408 20:09:34< _ping_> ok
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20090408 20:15:49 * Turuk doesn't get the psychologist by trade comment
20090408 20:15:53< Turuk> Eh
20090408 20:17:11< zookeeper> what's there to not get?
20090408 20:17:49< Turuk> Being a psychologist means you can read into people just by how they post? He must be good ;)
20090408 20:18:49< zookeeper> well, better than regular folks, no?
20090408 20:18:53< zookeeper> that's all he was implying
20090408 20:18:59< Turuk> True.
20090408 20:19:27< Turuk> But how much psychological study is needed to understand the method behind a Noy posting? :P
20090408 20:20:05< noy> yeah, I mean its almost certain I'm trying to insult you if I'm posting about you!
20090408 20:20:16< noy> I'm the meanest of the mean!
20090408 20:20:43< zookeeper> why are you trying to make that sound like sarcasm ;)?
20090408 20:20:54< Turuk> Noy? Sarcastic? Never!
20090408 20:21:29< noy> NEVER!
20090408 20:22:16< Turuk> It makes sense to me.  Two-thirds of him is no.
20090408 20:25:18< noy> Turuk: basically I've refused to play with Donkey now because he tries to use a hodor strategy everywhere and loses because of it. 
20090408 20:25:37< Turuk> I figured as much watching the replay.
20090408 20:25:53< noy> he takes really bad risks thinking he can recoup them later
20090408 20:25:55< noy> and he can't
20090408 20:27:28< Turuk> Wait, so even individual units matter in this game? Hmm.
20090408 20:27:30< Turuk> :P
20090408 20:27:39< Turuk> That got me when I first started playing
20090408 20:27:55< Turuk> Realizing that the loss of a unit or two when you only have a handful is crucial
20090408 20:28:52< noy> Turuk: well what is a slight annoyance is that Hodor was an inside joke between a few players, now people like donkey have made it the basis for their gameplay.
20090408 20:30:37< Turuk> It's effective in the hands of an experienced player or no?
20090408 20:31:54< noy> it can be.
20090408 20:32:04< noy> against an noob
20090408 20:32:24< Turuk> But against someone who actually knows the game fairly well, that strategy won't work?
20090408 20:32:27< Turuk> Interesting.
20090408 20:32:29< noy> however two good players on their game should have the non-hodor player winning. 
20090408 20:33:19< Turuk> Fair enough.
20090408 20:34:03< noy> should is the operative word. If you're surprised with Hodor, it can be tricky
20090408 20:36:09< Dragonking> Hodor is sometimes very useful.
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20090408 20:40:44< Turuk> Anyone else had this issue: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24908
20090408 20:42:39< zookeeper> Turuk, no. since he doesn't say that he's sure he isn't, i'm assuming he's just doing a silly mistake of some kind.
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20090408 22:40:52< noy> HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
20090408 22:41:05< noy> People, I hope you're all concerned with my health. 
20090408 22:41:31< noy> I've been diagnosed by a "professional"
20090408 22:41:52< noy> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=17442&start=90
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20090408 22:45:20< Espreon> Heh...
20090408 22:46:55 * zookeeper shrugs
20090408 22:48:25< zookeeper> noy, anyway, i hope you don't mind me asking, but do you happen to know much about conspiracy theories concerning the sinking of lusitania and pearl harbor advance-knowledge?
20090408 22:48:38< noy> one sec
20090408 22:48:59< zookeeper> (i'd just like to casually poll some people who'd be familiar with them and i suppose you're the best bet)
20090408 22:49:48< noy> I suspect there are ones out there, like with 9/11
20090408 22:49:50< Espreon> noy: I hate people who claim that they are psychologists by trade; especially when they make such claims about people in public.
20090408 22:50:03< noy> Espreon: I'm going to throw it back in his face
20090408 22:50:17< noy> I'm going to ask for his APA Number
20090408 22:50:19< zookeeper> well don't flame him too hard, it's not like you were being friendly to him either
20090408 22:50:21< noy> Either he has one or he doesn't
20090408 22:50:26< zookeeper> keep it a light flame ;)
20090408 22:50:34< noy> zookeeper: I wasn't.
20090408 22:50:35< Espreon> I've see that happen to someone else before. And the victim was the magister of a forum that I was once part of and such.
20090408 22:50:59< noy> He's basically a terrible player, who doesn't listen to his allies advice and makes terrible decisions. 
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20090408 22:51:05< Espreon> I think that these types of people (alleged psychologists) have a hard time facing authoritive figures.
20090408 22:51:08< noy> well he sometimes play well. 
20090408 22:51:13< noy> I doubt he is one. 
20090408 22:51:34< noy> He's probably got a psych undergrad degree or is doing one. 
20090408 22:51:35< happygrue> I think he is joking - it is really not worded to offend I think
20090408 22:51:40< happygrue> that seems likely
20090408 22:51:42< happygrue> if that
20090408 22:51:45< Espreon> noy: Probably.
20090408 22:51:48< noy> happygrue: I don't think he's joking. 
20090408 22:52:20< happygrue> I don't see how it could be serious
20090408 22:52:53< noy> did you read the last post happygrue ?
20090408 22:53:07< zookeeper> noy, ok...do you have any idea how many serious historians and other experts actually support those kind of theories, or at least don't dismiss them? would you say it's a tinfoil-hat-people thing or not?
20090408 22:53:22< noy> with 9/11 its tinfoil
20090408 22:53:32< noy> I would think its the same as Pearl Harbour
20090408 22:54:10< noy> happygrue: I thought he was joking too then he posted again
20090408 22:54:20< happygrue> noy let me look
20090408 22:54:54< noy> zookeeper: there were a lot of missed opportunities 
20090408 22:55:44< noy> The detection of incoming bombers on radar
20090408 22:57:24< voris> Yeah, but wars are always full of those.
20090408 22:57:25< noy> the decoding of JApanese cables that reached Pearl too late
20090408 22:57:36< noy> Oh of course.
20090408 22:58:01< noy> ITs said that when dealing with government failure expect ineptitude, not conspiracy and you'll be right 99% of the time
20090408 22:58:05< zookeeper> noy, without being a historian or otherwise an expert in the field, what kind of a measure should i use when deciding on who to believe? it's not like both sides don't have lots and lots of very convincing-sounding evidence to provide.
20090408 22:58:41< noy> Funny you should ask, a close friend of mine has become a 9/11 conspiracy theorist
20090408 22:58:52< noy> and I can't really respond easily. 
20090408 22:59:19< zookeeper> i see
20090408 22:59:27< voris> What noy said is a corollary to "never attribute to malice what you can instead blame on stupidity." Follow that rule and you should be in the right ballpark. ;)
20090408 22:59:41< noy> Not because he's right, but he digs into the minutia of issues, like whether steel can burn at 1200 degrees centrigrade or 400
20090408 22:59:53< noy> and takes that as proof
20090408 22:59:58< voris> Oh jeeze.
20090408 23:00:07< voris> He's watched that youtube video?
20090408 23:00:17< noy> And then claims "its just where the evidence takes you"
20090408 23:00:19< noy> voris: he's so much further than that
20090408 23:00:27< voris> I'm sorry.
20090408 23:00:36< zookeeper> noy, well, i mostly agree about most 9/11 stuff being tinfoil stuff. i guess not all, but still
20090408 23:00:42< noy> he pointed me to some sort of peer reviewed study in a stockholm technical journal
20090408 23:00:52< noy> I was like I don't want to read it
20090408 23:01:36< noy> Anyway for me I usually base my views on a broader perspective on organizations
20090408 23:01:43< voris> Government is generally far more opportunistic than able to pull together an airtight conspiracy that nobody comes out, ever, and says they were in on.
20090408 23:01:55< noy> If there was a conspiracy, it would include... exactly what Voris said
20090408 23:02:28< noy> does someone actually believe that everybody in the U.S. government would allow thousands of U.S. troops to die?
20090408 23:02:49< noy> and nobody would come out later by it?
20090408 23:03:21< grzywacz> zookeeper, http://www.theonion.com/content/video/9_11_conspiracy_theories
20090408 23:03:23< noy> I mean this is america, which holds the most skeptic views on government in society, and these theories suggest oh all these people know and were in on it. 
20090408 23:03:42< voris> It's funny about that. I've got some peacenik hippyish friends that really hated the military establishment but wound up working with the pentagon quite closely on disaster relief stuff and wound up realizing most of the people at the top are thoughtful, compassionate, and hate war.
20090408 23:03:50< voris> It kind of shook their world. :)
20090408 23:04:01< ping_a> 9/11 consipirst are plain stupid 
20090408 23:05:02< zookeeper> noy, well, aren't those people who "come out" just categorized as conspiracy theorists? i mean, obviously no one comes out with solid proof but rather with all kinds of single suspicious things
20090408 23:05:07< noy> hahahahahahaha grzywacz 
20090408 23:05:26< noy> I am SO tempted to send this to my friend
20090408 23:05:31< grzywacz> ;-)
20090408 23:05:41< zookeeper> i don't think anyone seriously claims that there'd be a lot of people involved in such a conspiracy
20090408 23:06:14< voris> grzywacz: nice
20090408 23:06:20< zookeeper> but instead that it's a small group of people in a position to mislead the rest
20090408 23:07:14< noy> Even so... its so hard to believe. 
20090408 23:07:42< zookeeper> nice video :P
20090408 23:08:44< voris> Well, the problem is, (depending on what theory you're going with I guess) is that you'd need a lot of people.
20090408 23:09:11< noy> of course
20090408 23:09:35< voris> I guess you could just murder all the low level bureaucrats you need to do this or that that don't seem gung ho from the outset...
20090408 23:09:52< voris> but even that starts involving shit that eventually leads someone to say they did *that*.
20090408 23:10:53< zookeeper> _why_ would you need a lot of people?
20090408 23:11:29< ping_a> you have to mislead the entire invetigation it can not be done
20090408 23:11:49< ping_a> with out alot of poeple in very high places
20090408 23:11:55< ping_a> and it would get out
20090408 23:11:59< voris> Well if you're going with the controlled demolition theory, you'd need to get people in there to wire up the buildings *and* keep inspectors, janitors, and god knows who else, out....
20090408 23:12:11< voris> You'd need to get the explosives and make them dissapear from inventories.
20090408 23:12:23< voris> You'd need to get the planes.
20090408 23:12:24< voris> etc.
20090408 23:12:25< zookeeper> well, i'm not talking about 9/11 controlled demolition or anything
20090408 23:12:25< ping_a> again 9/11 cnospiries are so dumb it not worth spending time on
20090408 23:12:55< voris> Oh, what are you talking about then?
20090408 23:13:20< voris> Just the "turning a blind eye" stuff?
20090408 23:13:57< voris> "This would *rule* if it actually came to pass, we'd be able to take advantage of this big time!" and then dragging your heels on doing anything with the intel?
20090408 23:14:26< grzywacz> On a completely unrelated note, this video really made me laugh out loud: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=17442&start=90
20090408 23:14:29< grzywacz> argh
20090408 23:14:35< grzywacz> This one http://www.theonion.com/content/video/pragues_franz_kafka_international
20090408 23:14:42< zookeeper> voris, well things like the visas for the hijackers
20090408 23:14:49< voris> Because yeah, that could just be Dick and George in a room so I could buy that. :)
20090408 23:15:02< voris> Ah, just making sure they got in?
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20090408 23:15:53< voris> Also possibly believable but I'd expect someone to say "so-and-so's name was totally on a watch list and then it just disappeared" or "I got a call saying this guy was ok" or something.
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20090408 23:16:02< voris> Maybe those exist, I don't really pay attention. :)
20090408 23:16:35< noy> Well with Pearl Habour, you'd still need thousands of people to make it happen. There would be people in intelligence that gave policymakers a warning, the people who support policymakers, ect. 
20090408 23:16:38< zookeeper> well, at least the theorists say those exist, it's not like i can really verify it..
20090408 23:17:08< voris> Yeah, Pearl Harbor is damn near impossible.
20090408 23:17:49< zookeeper> what about the indestructable passport, was the official story ever changed?
20090408 23:18:11< zookeeper> (i'd assume so since it's so absurd, but haven't heard anything like that)
20090408 23:18:32< noy> zookeeper: indestructable passport?
20090408 23:19:18< voris> Yeah, I really haven't been paying attention since I haven't heard this.
20090408 23:19:31< zookeeper> noy, the one that survived undamaged and fluttered to the ground?
20090408 23:19:52< noy> reading that right now
20090408 23:20:17< noy> zookeeper: thats the thing, with something this large and complex its easy to find small details that don't make sense
20090408 23:20:32< zookeeper> sure
20090408 23:21:06< noy> when in reality the absolute complexity of the entire event makes it almost impossible for another outcome to occur
20090408 23:21:35< voris> In a related note: http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TA9TK83ERHKKB00MQ
20090408 23:21:45< voris> WAs the explosion on Mt. St.Helens created by the government?
20090408 23:21:58< noy> I mean seriously, if the U.S. government was THAT effective to perpetrate an entire conspiracy, do you think it would do something as implausible as drop a passport to find?
20090408 23:22:02< zookeeper> but i had someone tell me that there's documents and other should-be-reliable evidence about stuff like lusitania and pearl harbor
20090408 23:23:05< zookeeper> referenced to in some book
20090408 23:23:43< noy> I'm sure there is
20090408 23:23:52< noy> Its probably taken out of context
20090408 23:23:57< voris> References are a funny topic all in themselves.
20090408 23:23:59< noy> and manipulated to make an argument
20090408 23:24:53< voris> I was reading awhile back that there are a some "medical facts" that periodically get debunked because they eventually find out all the various references for something all converge to one quack 70 years go.
20090408 23:26:10< zookeeper> well my default assumption is of course that it's taken out of context or otherwise misinterpreted
20090408 23:27:33< voris> The thing about the Pearl Harbor stuff is all that was necessary was the attack. If Japan declared war on us or was otherwise hostile to us by attacking Hawaii at all...we're in the war.
20090408 23:27:49< voris> So if you knew about it, why let your battleships all get wiped out?
20090408 23:27:56< zookeeper> but...eh, i don't know. it's frustrating to not be realistically able to dig into that stuff
20090408 23:28:05< zookeeper> or even if it was, then to convince someone else
20090408 23:28:40< voris> I treat it like god.
20090408 23:29:02< voris> Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. Either outcome has little effect on my day to day life.
20090408 23:30:24< noy> I think alot of it is based on the steadfast belief in human determinism. That people are consciously responsible for everything that goes on in this world. 
20090408 23:30:30< zookeeper> voris, i presume it's not especially contested that roosevelt and co wanted a reason to go to war with japan and were trying to get it to fire the first shot?
20090408 23:30:38< voris> Absolutely.
20090408 23:30:49< noy> And also a belief that government is all powerful and effective
20090408 23:30:51< voris> I agree with that statement, I mean.
20090408 23:30:59< zookeeper> ok. just checking
20090408 23:32:02< grzywacz> I guess they didn't really need a reason like that. ;-)
20090408 23:32:47< voris> Right, the receipt of the declaration of war would have been much nicer.
20090408 23:33:22< voris> Or an attack on an airstrip that was well defended with battleships out at sea.
20090408 23:36:10< zookeeper> noy, i think it's mostly based on the fear that otherwise it'd be possible for people to pull off conspiracies like that and get away with it
20090408 23:36:35< zookeeper> i mean, if we just conclude that there's no absolute proof and we can't really know for certain, then it's possible that it was true all along and the bad guys got away with it
20090408 23:37:08< zookeeper> it's a much more comforting thought that at least we're onto them
20090408 23:37:23< voris> Most conspiracy theorists believe that Oswald didn't act alone, the US was behind 9/11, FDR had advance notice of Pearl Harbor...
20090408 23:37:23< voris> and yet they also believe we never landed on the moon. That's what I don't get. :)
20090408 23:37:51< noy> Maybe. 
20090408 23:40:53< ping_a> voris: well in any given population there is about 2% crazy poeple and they will believe everything :)
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20090408 23:42:32< voris> I'm just saying, and I realize looking for internal consistency with conspiracy folks is probably silly to begin with, that the first three require a belief in the awesome power and capabilities of the government...
20090408 23:43:09< voris> and yet the last requires belief of quite the opposite.
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20090408 23:43:37< voris> Couched, nevertheless, in some weird "awesome power" cloak anyway which is really funny.
20090408 23:44:03< ping_a> also they believe all there is told by some random poeple and none that is told by govement
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20090408 23:45:51< zookeeper> ping_a, you'd say it's more accurate to say that 2% of all people believe anything you feed them than 98%?
20090408 23:45:58< noy> I find it kinda sad my close friend, who is really smart, can't see the follies of his ways. 
20090408 23:46:29< noy> Then again he turns on me and says "I find it discouraging you can't accept these things with an open mind"
20090408 23:46:37< noy> so what does that say about me?
20090408 23:47:03< zookeeper> you're part of the conspiracy :O
20090408 23:47:10 * zookeeper runs away in terror
20090408 23:47:30< zookeeper> hmm, actually i'll run to bed now. i'll be safe there.
20090408 23:47:39< noy> heh
20090408 23:47:43< zookeeper> thanks for the replies ;)
20090408 23:47:46< noy> is that where your tinfoil hat is?
20090408 23:47:48< noy> :p
20090408 23:48:00< zookeeper> no, i covered my whole bedroom in tinfoil.
20090408 23:48:01< noy> Don't worry zookeeper, apparently I'm emotionally unbalanced
20090408 23:48:06< noy> heh
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20090408 23:58:19< voris> Smart. Faraday cage will keep out the control signals far better than a hat.
20090408 23:58:50< noy> hahahaha
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