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20090422 17:49:06< Soliton> so, now you can ban with /query KiCKBaN spammer Monday lobby spam! ..if you want to be really obscure.
20090422 17:50:03< Soliton> (that bans for 1 Mon(th) and 1 day.)
20090422 17:58:21< Soliton> really it should be difficult to ban with a wrong time now though.
20090422 18:08:19< _jbx_> well since Monday is so easy to remember, that may just become my new default ban time :)
20090422 18:14:06< Soliton> apropos default ban times. we could setup some like 'short' = 6hours, 'medium' = 3days, 'long' = 14days or such. but we probably also need some guidelines when to use them or they're pointless.
20090422 18:22:12< _jbx_> that is probably a good idea.  short for someone being an idiot, medium for someone (non botspamming, long for being offensive 
20090422 18:23:25< _jbx_> bot-spamming always banned forever 
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20090422 21:02:59< noy> Dragonking happygrue _jbx_ are you three around?
20090422 21:03:36< Turuk> noy: I'm running out the door but so you know, Frezycus is banned from the forums
20090422 21:03:39< _jbx_> what's up?
20090422 21:03:49< noy> Oh good
20090422 21:04:09< noy> Well we've got some art and I'd like to get moving on the kalifa
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20090422 21:05:32< _jbx_> great
20090422 21:05:50< _jbx_> I'd still like to abandon the Rami, and find a replacement for some sort of wose killer
20090422 21:05:58< noy> Its already been abandoned
20090422 21:05:59< _jbx_> it may be as simple as blade
20090422 21:06:11< noy> uh, a levl 1 naffatun?
20090422 21:06:24< noy> which is what we already have?
20090422 21:06:27< _jbx_> melee fire that is weak to impact
20090422 21:06:34< _jbx_> could be quick matchups :P
20090422 21:06:45< noy> well, I was thinking we could do a couple of things...
20090422 21:07:00< noy> we can make him chaotic...
20090422 21:07:08< _jbx_> errr
20090422 21:07:12< noy> and give him a impact D
20090422 21:07:16< noy> or just neutral
20090422 21:07:33< _jbx_> neutral is better
20090422 21:08:14< _jbx_> we also chatted before about simplifying the movetypes to two basic types, the sandfoot and the horse
20090422 21:08:20< _jbx_> I still think that has merrit
20090422 21:09:13< noy> I'd rather have three... particularly for the Amir
20090422 21:10:04< noy> that also fits in with the overall tenets of faction design/ 
20090422 21:10:16< noy> (ie a major reason why we don't have an elvish mage)
20090422 21:11:40< noy> because we don't want factions that have fewer movetypes; it makes for uninteresting factions in general. 
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20090422 21:11:53< noy> having units with different movetypes adds more complexity
20090422 21:19:43< _jbx_> well, the sandfoot was roughly -10%impact, 50% evade on sand...and better on hills than mountains...the horsetype was similar to other mounted resists, but with similar 50% sand evade......So what would the Amir type be?
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20090422 21:20:17< _jbx_> are you talking HI type?
20090422 21:20:29< _jbx_> Heavyfoot
20090422 21:21:48< noy> No, but definitely restricted in its ability to be a defending unit
20090422 21:33:29< happygrue> I haven't played with themrecently enough to remember details, but I'd be happy to test things out
20090422 21:35:27< happygrue> noy: is the most current version in EE?
20090422 21:35:55< noy> I'm not using anything from BEEM
20090422 21:36:15< noy> this is actually part of the reason I feel impelled to work on them
20090422 21:36:57< happygrue> I haven't been following BEEM at all.  Where is the best place to get the current faction?
20090422 21:37:06< noy> we don't have one as of yet
20090422 21:37:11< happygrue> ok
20090422 21:37:18< noy> we'll use some of the stats from the original version
20090422 21:37:25< noy> and new stats we'll need to create
20090422 21:37:52< noy> Though I'm thinking we might need a slow unit too...
20090422 21:38:54< noy> Or a new type of slow...
20090422 21:39:09< happygrue> I think new abilities are worth thinking about
20090422 21:39:38< noy> well there was supposed to be one based on "sheild bash"
20090422 21:39:42< noy> for the lvl2
20090422 21:40:15< happygrue> I remember that
20090422 21:40:35< noy> which was *stun*
20090422 21:42:48< happygrue> I will have to run off soon, but are you looking to put the stats together in the near future?
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20090422 21:44:13< noy> happygrue: yeah... two months
20090422 21:44:42< noy> to have at least a lvl1 and some of the lvl2s finished
20090422 21:45:15< happygrue> sounds good
20090422 21:45:32< happygrue> hoping to make it into the next stable release?
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20090422 21:45:44< happygrue> I guess it depends on the art
20090422 21:46:23< noy> yes
20090422 21:46:47< happygrue> also, is the thought to add this to default, or to create a larger era?
20090422 21:47:23< noy> I'd like at first a Default+Kalifa
20090422 21:47:46< happygrue> that seems like the way to go, and then see how it works out
20090422 21:47:48< noy> if its good enough, then we'll add it to default
20090422 21:47:51< noy> but I doubt it
20090422 21:48:18-!- Broken_Mirror is now known as Shadow_Master
20090422 21:49:33< Soliton> hrm, "* All hosts are free to kick or ban players from their game." that part of the CoC is not well phrased. it should say that hosts are responsible to kick/ban users from their game but they shouldn't get abusive either. (we've permabanned one guy for that.)
20090422 21:49:51< happygrue> Soliton: I agree
20090422 21:50:40< noy> sounds good
20090422 21:51:42< happygrue> Soliton: is it worth considering adding a note about the adminmsg command to folks who get kicked from games?
20090422 21:52:40< happygrue> I don't even know what it says now, but I assume it tells them that they were kicked
20090422 21:52:41< noy> no... because I don't want to get innundated with "he kicked me for no reason" messages
20090422 21:53:12< happygrue> that is possible I suppose
20090422 21:53:55< Soliton> i want to clarify that statement mostly so people will not use adminmsg to complain about anything in games.
20090422 21:54:07< Soliton> because that's what someone did today.
20090422 21:54:33< happygrue> that seems wise
20090422 21:54:38< Soliton> but of course it should also say that the host can't do anything he likes.
20090422 21:54:57< happygrue> perhaps just encouraging them to come on IRC
20090422 21:55:00< Soliton> which is what it sounds like now.
20090422 21:55:15< happygrue> anyone who does that is probably angry enough to have a valid complaint
20090422 21:57:11< happygrue> well, I'm off.
20090422 21:57:30< happygrue> I shall return with a shiny new computer! ;)
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