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20090407 00:24:26< Ivanovic> n8
20090407 00:25:25< vjoe> undead vs drakes is too dificult
20090407 00:26:59< Polarina> vjoe: For which side?
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20090407 00:27:23< VurtualRuler98> both.
20090407 00:27:31< Polarina> How is it difficult?
20090407 00:27:39< VurtualRuler98> Just try it.
20090407 00:27:45< Polarina> When I have time.
20090407 00:27:48< VurtualRuler98> Load up a good, varied map that's well balanced.
20090407 00:27:52< VurtualRuler98> Then one side drakes, one side undead.
20090407 00:28:28< Polarina> Complete balance on maps is accomplished when the map is mirrored.
20090407 00:28:37< vjoe> Polarina: undead
20090407 00:28:45< Polarina> vjoe: Ok.
20090407 00:29:10< vjoe> lol
20090407 00:29:28< vjoe> howling ghosts badlands is quite nice btw
20090407 00:29:34< VurtualRuler98> No, complete balance comes with the map copied and rotated 180.
20090407 00:29:54< VurtualRuler98> Mirroring doesn't get this effect.
20090407 00:30:11< vjoe> err
20090407 00:30:15< vjoe> that doesn't mean anything
20090407 00:30:31< Polarina> VurtualRuler98: Rotation doesn't matter.
20090407 00:30:32< vjoe> a map with only hills will always be unbalance in favour of dwarves
20090407 00:30:43< vjoe> no matter how many times its mirrored
20090407 00:30:50< VurtualRuler98> Well, that.
20090407 00:31:00< VurtualRuler98> But if you're using the same faction-thingy.
20090407 00:31:24< Polarina> vjoe: What about a mirrored map, with a equal split and distribution of terrain types?
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20090407 00:32:15< VurtualRuler98> How about a map which has nothing but generic tiles that all units gain equal movement+defense on, and castles that have equal movement, but higher defense on?
20090407 00:32:31< vjoe> VurtualRuler98: that would be dull :P
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20090407 00:32:55< vjoe> Polarina: I believe the maps are quite balanced
20090407 00:33:07< vjoe> I still haven't studied them properly
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20090407 00:59:26< zooko> How can I export a map into an image format?  (My 8-year-old son Irby wants to do so.)
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20090407 01:02:20< Turuk> zooko, you can take a map screenshot if you like
20090407 01:02:39< Turuk> There's an unassigned hotkey that can be found in the hotkeys panel (obviously, I know :) )
20090407 01:02:53< Turuk> Just give it a proper button or buttons and then it should give you an image
20090407 01:03:19 * zooko looks in the hotkeys panel
20090407 01:03:23< zooko> his map is many screens wide...
20090407 01:03:32< zooko> Maybe if I move it to my workstation he can get more of it per screenshot.  :-)
20090407 01:04:39< Turuk> Ohhh, he's got a big one haha hmm
20090407 01:05:55< Polarina> This looks like the right time for some hacking. :)
20090407 01:06:00< Turuk> ?
20090407 01:06:04< Turuk> zooko: I checked
20090407 01:06:22< Turuk> It still takes a picture of the entire map
20090407 01:06:29< Turuk> Not just what you can fit into the screen
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20090407 01:24:44< zooko> Turuk: great!  Thanks.  :-)
20090407 01:24:51< Turuk_> Not a problem :)
20090407 01:24:58< zooko> Got to go.
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20090407 16:24:53< skyfaller> hey folks, I'm having trouble finding an answer to this in the documentation... does healing ever stack?  like, if you have two shamans healing a unit, does that unit get +8 or +4
20090407 16:24:58< skyfaller> ?
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20090407 16:29:04< fendrin> skyfaller: yes it stacks. But only to a maximum of 8.
20090407 16:31:47< skyfaller> fendrin: hm, that's the behavior I remember, but I just tested it in 1.6 and the heals don't seem to be stacking... I have two shamans next to a unit but they're only getting +4
20090407 16:32:49< fendrin> skyfaller: I am trying to reproduce.
20090407 16:33:05< skyfaller> I'm on OS X with 1.6 stable
20090407 16:36:11< skyfaller> I mean, it could be intentional and intended to discourage shaman spam, but I find it disappointing...
20090407 16:37:18< skyfaller> it also seems like a major change that I would expect to find in the changelog if it were intentional
20090407 16:38:06< fendrin> skyfaller: I can reproduce it. That change wasn't dicussed through the developers. It's a bug. Would you like to fill a bug report at bugs.wesnoth.org about the issue? That is the best way to get things fixed.
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20090407 16:42:39< skyfaller> fendrin: sure, I can do that, once I figure out GNA
20090407 16:43:06< skyfaller> fendrin: actually, my IP address is spam blacklisted??
20090407 16:43:12< skyfaller> so I can't register a new account
20090407 16:43:28< skyfaller> I'm on my university network, there really shouldn't be spam coming from here :P
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20090407 16:46:39< skyfaller> fendrin: I can't file the bug, could you file the bug and also ask them not to block George Mason University? :P
20090407 16:46:47< skyfaller> http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=129.174.226.4
20090407 16:48:09< fendrin> skyfaller: okay
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20090407 23:24:25< Ivanovic> n8
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20090407 23:36:51< danderson> hi!
20090407 23:37:05< danderson> Are there any statically compiled versions of wesnoth 1.6 lying around somewhere?
20090407 23:37:31< danderson> I have an urge for wesnoth, but I'm on a work laptop that has an ancient ubuntu gutsy
20090407 23:37:38< danderson> so old that the SDL cannot compile wesnoth :(
20090407 23:39:07< danderson> oh, for ubuntu gutsy the statically linked binaries :)
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