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20090410 00:11:52< vjoe> sulla's ruins is not mirrored
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20090410 01:33:51< ne0futur> hi all , is 1.6 enough stable to play ? are there players on the 1.6 server ? 
20090410 01:35:14< Turuk_> Yes, and yes.
20090410 01:35:26< Turuk_> 1.6 works fine and there are currently plenty of players on the server.
20090410 01:47:12< Polarina> ne0futur: Does the website say 1.6 is stable?
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20090410 01:57:35< happygrue> IISWIIS ;)
20090410 01:58:18< [Relic]> Hello :)
20090410 01:58:22< Rrenys> Hello :)
20090410 01:58:40< Rrenys> I had a finger on the enter key for the last minute.
20090410 01:59:45< ne0futur> good i ll soon try it
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20090410 02:02:53< [Relic]> :)
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20090410 11:45:12< tUff> g`day folks
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20090410 11:47:10< tUff> could anyuone point me to a downloadable version of the "Playing Battle For Wesnoth" manual please?
20090410 11:49:46< lizard_r> tUff, doesn't the ingame version work?
20090410 11:50:25< tUff> I hadnt realised it was a fuill version (idiot staus engaged!) .. I`ll take a look .. thanks :)
20090410 11:51:10< lizard_r> you have to enable debug-mode, because units are hidden until you discover them
20090410 11:52:54< tUff> ah ok ... i`m still wading through the welath of basic info etc for now the online version is fine I was just wanting a version I could look at when a net connection wasn`t an option
20090410 11:53:17< tUff> I`ll check into debug-mode and other wonders once i`ve gotten accustomed to the basics .. appreciate the pointers :)
20090410 11:53:28< lizard_r> is there a net version?
20090410 11:53:46< tUff> well certainly a basic overview - http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/PlayingBattleForWesnoth
20090410 11:54:10< tUff> plus the wiki .. actually the above is quite detailed and certainly provides info on combat, moves, units etc
20090410 11:54:53< lizard_r> .../wesnoth/manual contains a html version btw
20090410 11:56:29< lizard_r> and http://units.wesnoth.org contains all units of the game and most mods
20090410 11:58:13< tUff> superb .. i`ve a deal of reading it seems although i`ll potter about with scenarios and tutorials too so i`m doing as well as reading
20090410 11:58:15< tUff> thanks again :)
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20090410 11:59:28< tUff> lizard_r: Manual
20090410 11:59:28< tUff> From Wesnoth
20090410 11:59:28< tUff> There is currently no text in this page ;)
20090410 12:00:05< tUff> aha - http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/WesnothManual
20090410 12:01:08< lizard_r> .../wesnoth/manual was about your local wesnoth instalation
20090410 12:01:34< tUff> ah apologies misunderstood
20090410 12:01:59< tUff> anyways I`m being accosted by the small child known as my son .. with luck Wesnoth may catch his imagination too .. we shall see
20090410 12:02:05< tUff> thanks lizard_r :)
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20090410 15:02:21< jensp> hey there, can someone give me a hint for the "the rise of wesnoth" campaign? I'm playing "The fallen lich point" I've killed all the enemys but I can't find the sewer entry, any hints where I should look?
20090410 15:04:27< lizard_r> jensp, http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TheRiseOfWesnoth
20090410 15:04:37< lizard_r> this is a walkthrough
20090410 15:04:55< Turuk> North
20090410 15:05:17< jensp> Yeah, I saw that, but it doesn't specify the location of the entry and I don't want to spoil myself too much :)
20090410 15:05:22< jensp> Turuk: ok, thanks :)
20090410 15:05:31< Turuk> No problem :)
20090410 15:07:44< Turuk> It may or may not be found in the northern mountains.....
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20090410 15:47:40< tUff> is there any disadvantage to downloading/installing addons?  does it for example make things slower?  is it betyter to download as needed for example?
20090410 15:49:25< lizard_r> the game will take longer to load and I think it uses more RAM
20090410 15:50:00< lizard_r> sometimes really bad addons can even break other addons
20090410 15:50:03< tUff> ok I`ll see if the difference is perceptible .. RAm shouldnt be an issue as i`m fortunate enough to have a spare decently specc`d machine to run on for the moment
20090410 15:50:12< tUff> ok noted
20090410 15:53:37< lizard_r> Quote Dave ~ "Wesnoth frequently uses between 100MB and 200MB of memory."
20090410 15:53:38< lizard_r> Ram is only a iusse if you run it on small devices or old Computers.
20090410 15:54:18< tUff> I was just pondering whether i`d get away with running Wesnoth on an older server I have .. its a dual pII 500 with a ton of RAM
20090410 15:54:31< tUff> i`kll go find requirements and check
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20090410 18:11:45< Ken_Oh> does anyone here know how to check a location for shroud? i tried [store_side] but it just has the general yes/no information on shroud.
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20090410 18:34:51< thaer89> anyone know where or how to have  overview game code and style of coding 
20090410 18:38:42< zookeeper> maybe you should be a bit more specific.
20090410 18:39:39< thaer89> like be familiar with code and know how game working
20090410 18:39:51< Polarina> Ken_Oh: You might want to try #wesnoth-dev
20090410 18:43:23< zookeeper> Ken_Oh, no, i don't think you can
20090410 18:43:49< thaer89> why
20090410 18:44:02< zookeeper> unless putting a unit there and checking whether some side can see it by using [filter_vision]
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20090410 18:46:04< thaer89> so how i will do project if i selected and i not familiar of code 
20090410 18:47:11< zookeeper> are you talking about GSoC?
20090410 18:47:25< thaer89> yes
20090410 18:47:39< zookeeper> well, in that case better use #wesnoth-dev for those questions
20090410 18:49:06< thaer89> ok thnx
20090410 18:51:05< Ken_Oh> thnx, zoo
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20090410 19:44:08< Mycroft_> Hi, I 'd like to change my current campaign difficulty. I am currently in easy, the next level is "NORMAL" right ?
20090410 19:44:21< Mycroft_> I am editing my save file
20090410 19:45:31< zookeeper> correct
20090410 19:46:26< Polarina> Modify the amount of gold you have. :P
20090410 19:47:10< Mycroft_> thx zookeeper
20090410 19:47:32< Mycroft_> I hadn't play wesnoth for a long time, and I am actually better than I thought :p
20090410 19:48:00< Mycroft_> (even I should start from the start of the campaign, I don't have that much time)
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20090410 19:55:40< Mycroft_> It is a truly great game by the way
20090410 19:55:55< Mycroft_> Even if I quit playing for some times
20090410 19:56:15< Mycroft_> I came back, which is a sign of the quality of the game
20090410 19:56:21< Mycroft_> So thank you all of you :)
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20090410 20:25:32< Onox> Hi, I have a problem, my operating system is Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit... I tried to install Wesnoth and it seemed to install correctly, but immediately after that when it opened it crashed. I restarted the computer and tried to reinstall, but I got error messages about some files in Users\AppData\Local which could not be read. Any advice ?
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20090410 20:37:43< zookeeper> did you install over a previous version?
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20090410 20:44:25< Onox> no, I didn't install over a previous version
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20090410 20:47:38< Rrenys> Ken_Oh, is wesband supposed to work on 1.6?
20090410 20:47:46< zookeeper> Onox, i have no idea then. maybe check the technical support forum and see if others have had the same problem.
20090410 20:48:09< Onox> There are two wesnoth.exe running processes running even though the game is could not install completely O_o
20090410 20:48:31< Ken_Oh> Rrenys: yes
20090410 20:48:43< Ken_Oh> Are you finding problems with it?
20090410 20:48:53< Rrenys> Hm. It certainly freezes over here as soon as it loads the first level
20090410 20:49:18< voris> I have run it without that issue.
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20090410 20:49:24< Ken_Oh> By "first level" do you mean the first dungeon level or the first scenario for the campaign?
20090410 20:49:32< Rrenys> the village, with shops
20090410 20:49:51< Ken_Oh> It takes a little bit for that to initialize. How long have you waited?
20090410 20:50:22< Rrenys> ~3 minutes this time
20090410 20:51:27< Ken_Oh> Well, sorry. I don't know what I can do for ya. I'd say try making a Troll character, as that has simpler codes (much like their intellect).
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20090410 20:54:17< Onox> Now I succeeded in installing the game but when I lauch it, it crashes : "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000005). Click OK to terminate the application."
20090410 21:03:54< Onox> I'm downloading the installer again, maybe it was corrupted
20090410 21:08:52< Ivanovic> it can as well be your operating system
20090410 21:09:05< Ivanovic> that is: i think so far we had noone really test on 64bit vista
20090410 21:09:30< Onox> do you really think it could be that ?
20090410 21:09:48< Onox> 64-bit is becoming usual
20090410 21:10:00< Ivanovic> oh, we have *many* 64bit users
20090410 21:10:06< Ivanovic> though those are relying on linux
20090410 21:11:23< Onox> I'm going to install ubuntu 9.04 on the other hard drive... if it still doesn't work i'll play on linux =)
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20090410 22:29:00< AnMaster> Hm was trying this new campaign: Delfadors Memoirs, I think there is a bug in the level "The Portal of Doom", only the first of my player units that I move to the tunnel at the end is removed, after that moving units to that spot does nothing.
20090410 22:29:30< AnMaster> wesnoth is build from 34702
20090410 22:29:35< AnMaster> r34702*
20090410 22:29:36< zookeeper> you mean the mainlined version?
20090410 22:29:49< zookeeper> i guess you do..
20090410 22:29:55< AnMaster> zookeeper, yes indeed I do
20090410 22:30:51< zookeeper> well, i pasted that to the relevant guys on #wesnoth-dev
20090410 22:31:23< AnMaster> I don't know enough of the level file format to be able to see anything obviously wrong (I did check of course). Except there seems to be a commented out section around there.
20090410 22:31:33< AnMaster> but as I said, no idea about that really
20090410 22:32:48< AnMaster> zookeeper, btw if it matters I'm playing on "easy"
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20090410 22:41:19< AnMaster> zookeeper, a question: which build system do you plan to replace autoconf with? I tried scons then cmake today, and scons ended up with strange internal error messages, but the cmake one seems to work perfectly.
20090410 22:41:37< AnMaster> (much better than the old autoconf based system even)
20090410 22:41:40< zookeeper> AnMaster, sorry, no idea, i don't deal in that stuff
20090410 22:41:59< AnMaster> however I have to admit I'm biased here probably, since I used cmake for many of my own projects.
20090410 22:43:23< AnMaster> zookeeper, hm I just ran svn up again and it pulled a few files, now gcc gives errors.. a sec I'll pastebin (it is one of those huge C++ with lots of instansiated from thingies)
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20090410 22:44:00< zookeeper> you might have better luck in #wesnoth-dev
20090410 22:44:04< AnMaster> ah ok
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