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20090413 00:18:36< Ivanovic> n8
20090413 00:19:55< geist1> bye
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20090413 01:19:55 * Shadow_Master stalks Polarina 
20090413 01:20:07 * Polarina hugs Shadow_Master.
20090413 01:20:14< Shadow_Master> argh, I don't want your hugs
20090413 01:20:27< Polarina> Too bad. :P
20090413 01:20:28< Shadow_Master> your autoupdate script assumes that $HOME/wesnoth/branches/1.6 exists. bad
20090413 01:20:45< Shadow_Master> also, how do we call that... ahh, Not Helpful(tm)
20090413 01:21:38< Polarina> :P
20090413 01:22:43< Shadow_Master> aaaaaaargh.
20090413 01:22:53< Shadow_Master> I misspelled "its" as "it's". Damn me
20090413 01:25:52< Shadow_Master> and didn't notice it was "useless thread resurrection". Thanks arielbys and Polarina for confusing me. Turuk_ ?
20090413 01:26:07< Turuk_> Yes?
20090413 01:26:17< Shadow_Master> what should be done with it?
20090413 01:26:17< Polarina> ?
20090413 01:26:21 * Turuk_ would have deleted it, but didn't know if it was pertinent or not
20090413 01:26:27< Turuk_> If it's not, delete it.
20090413 01:26:37< Shadow_Master> nah, let me handle it then
20090413 01:26:47< Turuk_> Sarcasm and wit? ;)
20090413 01:26:49< Shadow_Master> with my last put, arielbys will be well ashamed later ;)
20090413 01:26:51< Shadow_Master> post.
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20090413 02:26:49< Ischaldirh> hello
20090413 02:26:59< Shadow_Master> hallo
20090413 02:29:11< Ischaldirh> there. now wesnoth is on my lurk list. you'll be seeing much more of me in the future... probably not hearing much but so it goes
20090413 02:29:56< Ischaldirh> now before I head off into the realms of not-talking I have a question... are there any more modern-themed faction/eras? i.e. WW2, etc
20090413 02:30:13< Polarina> Ischaldirh: No!
20090413 02:30:16< Polarina> Ischaldirh: No WW2!
20090413 02:30:17< Ischaldirh> :(
20090413 02:30:17< Shadow_Master> I think there have been several user-made attempts and they have failed
20090413 02:30:24< Polarina> Ischaldirh: Don't even ask about that.
20090413 02:30:29-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b %*!*@wesnoth/translator/Polarina] by ChanServ
20090413 02:30:31< Ischaldirh> :~(
20090413 02:30:48< Shadow_Master> Polarina: try to think a bit before reacting that way to a new user
20090413 02:31:15< Ischaldirh> lol
20090413 02:31:22< Ischaldirh> that reminds me of another gy I know
20090413 02:31:22< Shadow_Master> Ischaldirh: the most popular tendency is trying to make sci-fi-themed eras
20090413 02:31:41< Shadow_Master> I think that at least one made it past the planning stage, checking..
20090413 02:31:44< Ischaldirh> he's got op powers and he'll kick you if you look at him funny
20090413 02:32:31< Shadow_Master> yeah, you definitevely don't know Polarina  ;)
20090413 02:32:34< Shadow_Master> he's our pet
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20090413 02:33:25< Ischaldirh> hehe
20090413 02:33:58< Ischaldirh> god though I havn't played wesnoth in like, a year
20090413 02:34:19< Ischaldirh> never did finish the main campaign...
20090413 02:34:21< Ischaldirh> should do that..
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20090413 02:35:11< FluffytheBruce> WW2 was the shit. you guys are fuckin silly.
20090413 02:35:16< Ischaldirh> fluffy wtf are you doing in here
20090413 02:35:17< Ischaldirh> go away
20090413 02:35:18< Ischaldirh> >:(
20090413 02:35:27< FluffytheBruce> :E
20090413 02:35:33< Ischaldirh> D:<
20090413 02:35:44< Ischaldirh> <3
20090413 02:35:50< FluffytheBruce> next time i'll brick in your eye you fascist
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20090413 02:35:56< Ischaldirh> haha
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20090413 02:37:01< Ischaldirh> sorry about that
20090413 02:37:28-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b *!*@97-115-84-182.ptld.qwest.net] by Shadow_Master
20090413 02:38:10-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o Shadow_Master] by Shadow_Master
20090413 02:38:11< Shadow_Master> bah
20090413 02:38:45-!- mode/#wesnoth [-b %*!*@wesnoth/translator/Polarina] by ChanServ
20090413 02:38:59< Polarina> Yay!
20090413 02:39:02< Shadow_Master> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/search.php?keywords=planet&terms=all&author=&fid[]=19&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
20090413 02:39:12< Shadow_Master> there are some sci-fi eras around in that list
20090413 02:39:21< Ischaldirh> hmm
20090413 02:39:27< Ischaldirh> suppose I should register then so I can look at it ;)
20090413 02:39:35< Polarina> Shadow_Master: Is Esperanto also forbidden here?
20090413 02:39:43< Shadow_Master> Ischaldirh: you don't need to register to read the forums
20090413 02:39:46< Shadow_Master> to post, yes, but not to read
20090413 02:39:51< Shadow_Master> Polarina: no.
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20090413 02:40:09< Polarina> Shadow_Master: Bone.
20090413 02:40:16< Shadow_Master> stop asking silly questions every 1 minute >:(
20090413 02:40:36< Ischaldirh> Shadow_Master: Really? It's telling me I can't use search
20090413 02:40:51< Shadow_Master> um, register then :)
20090413 02:41:21< Shadow_Master> I'm guessing it's made that way so that bots don't stress the database's search engine..
20090413 02:41:35< Ischaldirh> hehe, yeah I'm registering right now
20090413 02:42:01< Ischaldirh> unfortunately I reflexively told yahoomail that the confirmation message was spam, and now I can't recover it :(
20090413 02:42:44< Shadow_Master> Ischaldirh: account? I can resend it
20090413 02:43:05< Ischaldirh> same as my handle, however yahoomight think the second is spam as well
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20090413 02:44:13< Ischaldirh> Hmm, don't worry about it, I'll deal with it another time
20090413 02:44:15< Shadow_Master> Ischaldirh: there should be a way to tell yahoo to undo the blacklisting
20090413 02:44:20< Ischaldirh> lurk time
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20090413 02:56:25-!- mode/#wesnoth [-b *!*@97-115-84-182.ptld.qwest.net] by shikadibot
20090413 02:56:31-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o shikadibot] by shikadibot
20090413 02:58:42< JimmyJ> Has anybody thought of making a post apocalyptic mod?
20090413 02:59:00< Shadow_Master> UtBS?
20090413 02:59:09< JimmyJ> Where the majority of the population has been killed, and they've turned into radioactive zombies that try to seek out the living?
20090413 02:59:26< Shadow_Master> ah, no. Nobody's silly enough for that I guess.
20090413 02:59:52< Ischaldirh> fluffy seemed to think you were
20090413 03:00:08< JimmyJ> I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
20090413 03:01:01< Ischaldirh> sounds like fun to me
20090413 03:01:09< JimmyJ> There could be a bandit faction, and a faction of people trying to keep order, and stuff.
20090413 03:01:37< JimmyJ> And they'd go out in the desert and brutally kill the bandits, but try to avoid the roaming hordes of glowing green undead.
20090413 03:02:15< JimmyJ> But if they went too far out, they'd surely run out of water and be easy prey for the undead.
20090413 03:02:25< JimmyJ> Then they'd be violently torn apart.
20090413 03:02:52< Shadow_Master> radioactive zombies <- epic fail.
20090413 03:03:03< Shadow_Master> this' been tried a lot of times in different variants, in moives
20090413 03:03:07< Shadow_Master> movies. pah
20090413 03:03:14< Ischaldirh> mph
20090413 03:03:17< JimmyJ> This isn't a movie though.
20090413 03:03:26< Ischaldirh> fallout seemed to do it pretty well
20090413 03:03:31< JimmyJ> Also, proximity to the zombies would cause your internal organs to fry up.
20090413 03:03:37< JimmyJ> Causing a painful and slow, nasty death.
20090413 03:03:38< Shadow_Master> *brr*
20090413 03:04:11< Polarina> I prefer non-exiguous undeads.
20090413 03:04:19< Shadow_Master> I prefer the eternal torture of having your body sliced, your limbs ripped off, and your brain half-removed and replaced with a control device
20090413 03:04:24< Shadow_Master> (IftU)dd
20090413 03:04:35< Shadow_Master> .... disregard the trailing 'dd'.
20090413 03:05:06< Ischaldirh> exiguous? IftU?
20090413 03:05:11< JimmyJ> What would be the point of the control device, once your body is essentially immobile?
20090413 03:05:12< Shadow_Master> shikadibot: IftU?
20090413 03:05:12< shikadibot> IftU: Invasion from the Unknown
20090413 03:05:16< Shadow_Master> campaign.
20090413 03:05:27< Ischaldirh> nice name
20090413 03:05:29< Shadow_Master> JimmyJ: keeping the other half of the brain working
20090413 03:05:36< Shadow_Master> :p
20090413 03:05:47< Shadow_Master> besides, most of your body is replaced by a machine
20090413 03:06:01< Shadow_Master> you get to serve forever as a mindless war-beast
20090413 03:06:01< JimmyJ> What if they do something like in Bioforge?
20090413 03:06:03< Ischaldirh> That's not a zombie, that's the Borg
20090413 03:06:18< Shadow_Master> it's better than a zombie! :D
20090413 03:06:29< Ischaldirh> zombie != borg
20090413 03:07:10< Shadow_Master> zombie < borg < shaxthal
20090413 03:07:23< Ischaldirh> that sounds hot
20090413 03:07:25< Shadow_Master> Espreon, tsk tsk, why are you so quiet?
20090413 03:07:59< Ischaldirh> though what shaxthal is, I can't say I know
20090413 03:08:23< JimmyJ> zombie < borg < shaxthal < hitler clone army
20090413 03:08:34< Espreon> Shaxthals are awesomez... <insert typical fanboy rant here>!
20090413 03:08:41< JimmyJ> No better way to fight world war 3 than with an army of Hitlers.
20090413 03:08:44< Espreon> Shaxthals are much better than zombies!
20090413 03:08:44< Ischaldirh> JimmJ++
20090413 03:08:47< Ischaldirh> oh shit that doesn't work here
20090413 03:08:48< Ischaldirh> :/
20090413 03:09:20< Shadow_Master> Espreon: You Have Failed Me.
20090413 03:09:22< Shadow_Master> (tm)
20090413 03:09:42< Espreon> As I typically do. (Registered TM)
20090413 03:09:49< JimmyJ> Then, something would go horribly wrong, and the hitler clones would seize control of the hitler cloning facilities, and they'd attempt to enact a mega final solution (tm), where they try to wipe out all who are not Hitlers.
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20090413 03:10:09< Ischaldirh> but there's only One True Hitler
20090413 03:10:11< Shadow_Master> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouHaveFailedMe
20090413 03:10:12< Polarina> JimmyJ: No Hitler, please.
20090413 03:10:27< Shadow_Master> no overreactioning either <.<
20090413 03:10:46< JimmyJ> Well, there would be a Master Hitler clone, who would be the only one with nipples, so they have a way of identifying.
20090413 03:11:53< JimmyJ> In the event that the Master Hitler is assassinated, however, they shall pick a suitable Hitler clone, and surgically attach the nipples of a man of religious minority upon him.
20090413 03:11:56 * Espreon blasts JimmyJ with diurnum...
20090413 03:13:06< Polarina> JimmyJ: No Hitler, please.
20090413 03:13:23< JimmyJ> Well, it won't be an easy fight, Polarina, but I'm sure we can pull through./
20090413 03:13:45< Polarina> JimmyJ: No, I meant that you shouldn't mention his name in here.
20090413 03:13:46< Espreon> 'Twould be easier if you did not mention him...
20090413 03:14:02< JimmyJ> Well, he's an important part of the third world war.
20090413 03:14:12< Polarina> JimmyJ: ...
20090413 03:14:14< JimmyJ> To ignore him would be to ignore the entire opposing side.
20090413 03:14:49< Espreon> But, who cares‽
20090413 03:15:07< Polarina> :O
20090413 03:15:14< Shadow_Master> yeah, who cares, let's move on. We can't live in the past, we must look forward to the future.
20090413 03:15:16< JimmyJ> You have to be careful not to let a Hitler Clone infiltrate a human camp, because their secret attack is a brutal rape, and it just so happens their semen was replaced with acid in the cloning process.
20090413 03:15:18< Shadow_Master> (Seriously).
20090413 03:15:22< JimmyJ> Only most of the remaining humans.
20090413 03:15:31< Polarina> JimmyJ: Stop mentioning that name, please.
20090413 03:15:32< JimmyJ> You could always join the bandits if you want.
20090413 03:15:37< Espreon> JimmyJ: You should be more afraid of the Grand Shaxthal Swarm.
20090413 03:15:45< JimmyJ> They serve their own motives, instead of trying to preserve the human raace.
20090413 03:16:09< Espreon> Who needs the human race if we have Shaxthals?
20090413 03:16:25< JimmyJ> Well, the humans do.
20090413 03:16:34< JimmyJ> As a human, I'm pro-human race.
20090413 03:17:07< Espreon> As a post-UtBS supporter, I am a pro-Shaxthal being.
20090413 03:17:29< JimmyJ> The Shaxtals are a threat to our existance, as far as I'm concerned, they're as bad as the Hitler clones.
20090413 03:17:46< Polarina> Shadow_Master: How far can I go without getting my mouth taped again?
20090413 03:17:55< JimmyJ> But, we could try to develop a Stalin clone production facility, to combat the Hitler clone army.
20090413 03:17:57< Espreon> JimmyJ: Not really.
20090413 03:18:06< Ischaldirh> Polarina: You know there's always the /ignore command
20090413 03:18:18< Polarina> Ischaldirh: Then I might miss out something.
20090413 03:18:28< JimmyJ> And, in case THEY get out of control, we'll also have a killswitch implanted into each Hitler clone.
20090413 03:18:43< Polarina> JimmyJ: Please, stop!
20090413 03:18:53< JimmyJ> But don't you see?!
20090413 03:18:59< Espreon> JimmyJ: Seriously, stop it.
20090413 03:19:01< JimmyJ> If I don't stop, then we'll all die!
20090413 03:19:09< Espreon> Not really.
20090413 03:19:14< Polarina> JimmyJ: I'd rather die than you keep talking.
20090413 03:19:21< JimmyJ> You're either with me or with Hitler.
20090413 03:19:23< Shadow_Master> looks like you need to relax a bit.
20090413 03:19:23< Espreon> JimmyJ: We'll be saved if you stop.
20090413 03:19:31< JimmyJ> When you drive alone you drive with Hitler.
20090413 03:20:18 * Espreon sends a Shaxthal swarm to JimmyJ's dwelling...
20090413 03:20:40< JimmyJ> And the glowing radioactive green undead give cancer, and SOMETIMES, under a microscope, the cancer resembles Hitler's left buttcheek.
20090413 03:20:50< Espreon> ...
20090413 03:21:23< JimmyJ> It's entirely possible that the Hitler clone army has sided with the Desert Undead.
20090413 03:21:29< Polarina> ...
20090413 03:22:02 * Espreon thinks that someone needs to smite JimmyJ.
20090413 03:22:03 * Blueblaze feels left out
20090413 03:22:05< Blueblaze> ...
20090413 03:22:22< Ischaldirh> don't feel bad blueblaze, I'll be your friend!
20090413 03:22:31< JimmyJ> Hi Blueblaze, how do YOU feel about the horrible evil Hitler clone army?
20090413 03:22:36< Blueblaze> ...
20090413 03:22:39 * Blueblaze liked being left out
20090413 03:22:53< Ischaldirh> fine, don't give me a hug, see if I care
20090413 03:22:54< JimmyJ> I think Polarina is a big fan of these Hitler clones, always trying to stop me from informing you poor people of the truth.
20090413 03:23:10< Polarina> All right, that's it JimmyJ! Get out!
20090413 03:23:28< JimmyJ> Get out of my ass, you Hitler clone lover!
20090413 03:23:31-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o Shadow_Master] by ChanServ
20090413 03:23:39-!- mode/#wesnoth [+m] by Shadow_Master
20090413 03:24:03<@Shadow_Master> considering that you really like to make a Big Deal out of a minor point, uh... let's get over it. Relax for a while.
20090413 03:28:52-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b %*!*@wesnoth/translator/Polarina] by ChanServ
20090413 03:29:00-!- mode/#wesnoth [-m] by Shadow_Master
20090413 03:29:06-!- mode/#wesnoth [-o Shadow_Master] by Shadow_Master
20090413 03:31:43< JimmyJ> I seem to remember there having been an attack in Wesnoth a long time ago where you could attack all the hexes next to the one you were on.
20090413 03:31:54< JimmyJ> Did that ever exist, or am I thinking of a different game?
20090413 03:32:21< Ischaldirh> I vaguely remember that from like, the first time I ever played
20090413 03:32:39< Ischaldirh> though I too may be thinking of something else, all those hex games blur together
20090413 03:33:03< JimmyJ> I might be thinking of Age of Wonders.
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20090413 03:34:33< Ischaldirh> Haha, I just thought of an absolutely horrendous idea for an era
20090413 03:34:35< Ischaldirh> Pokemon
20090413 03:34:59< JimmyJ> Over 250 types of units!
20090413 03:35:02< JimmyJ> That'd be awful.
20090413 03:35:04< Ischaldirh> yeah
20090413 03:35:09< JimmyJ> No variety except the graphics.
20090413 03:36:01< Shadow_Master> nah, copyright infringment. Not allowed in the forums or in the official addons server
20090413 03:36:13< Shadow_Master> besides, unkillable units tend to make Wesnoth's engine do funny stuff
20090413 03:36:15< JimmyJ> Whew, no worries then.
20090413 03:36:38< Ischaldirh> Shadow_Master: How so? Also what do you mean by unkillable/
20090413 03:36:40< JimmyJ> I'm not sure where unkillable units come into play though.
20090413 03:36:45< Blueblaze> Ischaldirh: A pokemon clone would be quite fun actually
20090413 03:36:55< Shadow_Master> aren't pokemons unkillable?
20090413 03:36:59< Blueblaze> They're killable
20090413 03:37:03 * Ischaldirh stares at Blueblaze in horror
20090413 03:37:22< Ischaldirh> I take it back, I don't want to be your friend anymore
20090413 03:37:26< Blueblaze> Shadow_Master: Its just trainers never fight to kill, but pokemon can be killed because of various events
20090413 03:37:42< Blueblaze> Ischaldirh: Some type of Pokemon inspired game in Wesnoth would actually be quite fun
20090413 03:37:46< Blueblaze> I might look into making such possibility
20090413 03:37:47< JimmyJ> I fear the day there'll be a mod called Wesmon.
20090413 03:37:54< Shadow_Master> in the... rather impressive amount of episodes I've watched out of boredom, I've never heard the word "die","death" orrelated
20090413 03:38:01 * Blueblaze looks forward to the day
20090413 03:38:04< Ischaldirh> Just so long as there's nothing like pikachu
20090413 03:38:11< Ischaldirh> Or charmander
20090413 03:38:15< Ischaldirh> Or any othe rpokemon
20090413 03:38:22< Blueblaze> Shadow_Master: Well, there are fossilized pokemon
20090413 03:38:49< Shadow_Master> uhm, I'm perhaps asking too much from a japanese cartoon's logic.
20090413 03:38:52< Blueblaze> As well, the show does feature many near-deaths 
20090413 03:39:04< cjhopman_> Pokenoth?
20090413 03:39:12 * Ischaldirh shudders
20090413 03:39:14< Blueblaze> Pokenoth would violate copyrights
20090413 03:39:18< Blueblaze> Wesmon wouldn't though
20090413 03:39:22< Shadow_Master> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouFailLogicForever
20090413 03:39:28< JimmyJ> If it does as many near-deaths as you claim, it'd start getting to the point where you wonder whether or not it's even possible for them to die.
20090413 03:39:31< Shadow_Master> I think that trope applies perfectly well to Pokemon :p
20090413 03:39:32< Blueblaze> Shadow_Master: There is actually a Pokemon Tower where dead pokemon live
20090413 03:39:35< JimmyJ> How would Pokenoth violate copyrights?
20090413 03:39:39< Ischaldirh> Not if it was pokenoth and not pokénoth
20090413 03:39:51< Blueblaze> JimmyJ: Poke is a registered name
20090413 03:39:54< Shadow_Master> JimmyJ: by ripping off character concepts
20090413 03:40:00< JimmyJ> But Poke is a wordf.
20090413 03:40:01< JimmyJ> word*
20090413 03:40:08< Blueblaze> Poke'*
20090413 03:40:13< Shadow_Master> sure, you can actually base a era on pokemons if you make your very own set of them, with completely different names and nature
20090413 03:40:13< Blueblaze> I guess you could get away with calling it Pokenoth
20090413 03:40:15< Blueblaze> lol
20090413 03:40:18< Shadow_Master> and forget about pokeballs
20090413 03:40:21< Shadow_Master> :P
20090413 03:40:31< Shadow_Master> and anything poke*
20090413 03:40:33< JimmyJ> Call them Weseballs.
20090413 03:40:34< Ischaldirh> é
20090413 03:40:37< Ischaldirh> ééé
20090413 03:40:41< Ischaldirh> poké
20090413 03:40:48< Blueblaze> Weezeballs
20090413 03:40:51< Ischaldirh> I feel like a fanboy for knowing how to make that
20090413 03:41:11< Shadow_Master> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Create
20090413 03:41:13< JimmyJ> In your defense, maybe you know it because it almost looks like a grenade.
20090413 03:41:15< Shadow_Master> lots of stuffto read
20090413 03:41:24< Ischaldirh> YES, that's exactly it!
20090413 03:41:25< Shadow_Master> it seems there's a nail stuck under my spacebar
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20090413 03:42:25< Shadow_Master> ROFL :p
20090413 03:42:27< JimmyJ> A fingernail?
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20090413 03:42:33< JimmyJ> I have all kinds of crud in my keyboard.
20090413 03:42:34< Shadow_Master> JimmyJ: exactly
20090413 03:42:46< Shadow_Master> well, I have lots of car fur under its keys too
20090413 03:42:54< cjhopman_> not copyright violation... maybe trademark violation
20090413 03:43:05< Shadow_Master> cjhopman_: talk about putting Pikachu in it
20090413 03:43:09< Ischaldirh> Car fur?
20090413 03:43:11< Ischaldirh> nice
20090413 03:43:17< JimmyJ> Cat fur>?
20090413 03:43:21< Shadow_Master> I mean cat fur, yes: p
20090413 03:43:28< JimmyJ> I have tons of pine needles in there.
20090413 03:43:39< Blueblaze> Why pine needles?
20090413 03:43:45< Blueblaze> Did you kill a Christmas tree over your keyboard? :x
20090413 03:44:29< JimmyJ> Nah, there are tons of them out here.
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20090413 03:44:50< JimmyJ> They get on your clothes and treaded in the house.
20090413 03:44:57< JimmyJ> They cover our cars and truck.
20090413 03:45:02< JimmyJ> They cover our boats.
20090413 03:45:25< JimmyJ> Not literally cover, but there are a lot.
20090413 03:45:47< Blueblaze> Well, I understand cars, trucks, boats, because those are all things that you store outdoors
20090413 03:46:05< Blueblaze> There's really not many pine trees where I live though
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20090413 03:46:21< JimmyJ> There are tons of them here.
20090413 03:47:04< Ischaldirh> we have a lot of trees here, but they're all planted
20090413 03:47:20< Ischaldirh> highest tree-per-capita in california and not one of them started in the city
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20090413 03:48:56< Blueblaze> Ischaldirh: Where do you live?
20090413 03:49:04< Ischaldirh> outside of Sac
20090413 03:49:23< Blueblaze> ah, I've never been that far north
20090413 03:49:34< Blueblaze> Granted, I've only been to Southern California :p
20090413 03:49:44< Blueblaze> My brother used to live in LA, so we'd go visit him every year
20090413 03:50:06< Ischaldirh> ha
20090413 03:50:11< Ischaldirh> I used to live much further north
20090413 03:50:14< Ischaldirh> in Humboldt county
20090413 03:50:49< Blueblaze> Ah, almost in Oregon
20090413 03:50:50< Ischaldirh> which according to Wikipedia is "Humboldt County is also widely known for its cultural attributes associated with the cultivation and proliferation of marijuana."
20090413 03:51:14< Blueblaze> lol
20090413 03:51:14< Ischaldirh> the article rather understates it too
20090413 03:51:31< Ischaldirh> growing is like, What You Do in humboldt
20090413 03:51:53< FluffytheBruce> actually i just came in here to express my displeasure with your half-assed op work. one would expect such a well-known and highly regarded game project like Wesnoth to pick ops that weren't half-brained bottom feeders with a stick up their ass and a powertrip on their dick. have a good one.
20090413 03:51:57< JimmyJ> Is it legal there?
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20090413 03:52:28< Ischaldirh> Jimmy: No but the Arcata cops don't care
20090413 03:52:38< Ischaldirh> you can go on a bike ride with them and talk about how much you like getting high
20090413 03:52:41< Blueblaze> JimmyJ: You can grow it for medical purposes legally
20090413 03:52:49< Ischaldirh> that's true
20090413 03:53:08< JimmyJ> "My head, like, hurts, man, I need this!"
20090413 03:53:30< Blueblaze> Long as you get a valid doctor perscription, that's about what it takes :p
20090413 03:53:43< Blueblaze> prescription*
20090413 03:53:47< Ischaldirh> "duuuude, i need to grow weed man" "Why?" "duude, I'm like... totally not high right now."
20090413 03:55:49< Ischaldirh> as an added bonus humboldt also houses some excellent brewerys
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20090413 03:56:10< Ischaldirh> including one founded by my dad (which means cheap-or-free high-quality beer for me -- score!)
20090413 03:57:50< Shadow_Master> re/window 31
20090413 03:57:57< Shadow_Master> oops :)
20090413 03:58:08< Ischaldirh> doesn't work here, sorry
20090413 03:58:27< Shadow_Master> yeah, the "re" doesn't make it better
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20090413 04:00:58< Polarina> Good night. :)
20090413 04:01:11 * Shadow_Master hugs Polarina 
20090413 04:01:46 * Polarina hugs Shadow_Master.
20090413 04:09:11< ancestral> awwwwww
20090413 04:09:34-!- Ischaldirh is now known as Izzy|away
20090413 04:10:16 * Polarina hugs ancestral.
20090413 04:10:41< ancestral> ewwwww
20090413 04:11:01 * Polarina puts on some perfume.
20090413 04:11:06 * Polarina hugs ancestral again.
20090413 04:11:40 * ancestral grimaces
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20090413 04:15:23< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090413 04:16:12< JimmyJ> Hi.
20090413 04:16:33< [Relic]> :)
20090413 04:17:24< Polarina> :)
20090413 04:18:47< JimmyJ> :)
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20090413 05:08:42< Izzy|away> Does wesnoth have LAN support?
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20090413 05:17:06< JimmyJ> I'm 90% sure.
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20090413 06:03:06< Comrde> So
20090413 06:03:11< Comrde> how is everyone tonight?
20090413 06:03:40< JimmyJ> Pretty good.
20090413 06:04:15< Comrde> How about them germens?
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20090413 06:05:17< Blueblaze> :m
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20090413 06:15:03< ancestral> Totally out of the blue question, but anybody ever play a old DOS game called Darklands?
20090413 06:15:14< JimmyJ> I own it!
20090413 06:15:17< JimmyJ> On CD!
20090413 06:15:32< ancestral> Really?
20090413 06:15:51< ancestral> It is a very fun game
20090413 06:15:54< JimmyJ> I lost the manual a long time ago, so I had to download a .pdf for the annoying copy protection.
20090413 06:15:57< JimmyJ> It's great.
20090413 06:17:56< JimmyJ> Have you played Sword of the Samurai?
20090413 06:18:46< ancestral> Yes!
20090413 06:18:55< ancestral> Not very long, but yes, I have it downloaded
20090413 06:19:14< JimmyJ> It's a similar, but older engine.
20090413 06:19:31< JimmyJ> I love it too.
20090413 06:19:45< JimmyJ> I don't own SOTS though, just Darklands.
20090413 06:19:50< JimmyJ> So I had to download SOTS.
20090413 06:20:55< ancestral> It's all abandonware by now
20090413 06:21:58< JimmyJ> Yep.
20090413 06:22:07< JimmyJ> I wish HOTU was still around.
20090413 06:22:29< ancestral> Hordes of the Underdark?
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20090413 06:22:38< eerf> hello 
20090413 06:23:06< JimmyJ> Home of the Underdogs.
20090413 06:23:13< ancestral> oh right
20090413 06:23:52< ancestral> http://www.homeoftheunderdogs.net/
20090413 06:23:55< ancestral> Still around
20090413 06:23:57< JimmyJ> But I payed 33 cents for Neverwinter Nights Gold plus Hordes of the Underdark.
20090413 06:24:17< JimmyJ> !
20090413 06:24:28< JimmyJ> It was supposed to be dead forever.
20090413 06:24:32< JimmyJ> Awesome.
20090413 06:24:37< ancestral> Regeneration +1
20090413 06:24:59< ancestral> or extra life
20090413 06:27:12< eerf> I just finished compile wesnoth 1.6
20090413 06:27:19< eerf> how do I start the game?
20090413 06:27:30< eerf> in linux
20090413 06:29:35< ancestral> cd to the directory and ./wesnoth yes?
20090413 06:29:54< ancestral> But I could be wrong...
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20090413 06:43:36< eerf> ancestral: I do not see ./wesnoth
20090413 06:44:06< eerf> This is what I did: ./configure -> make -> make install -> make distclean
20090413 06:45:44< ancestral> eerf: try asking Espreon
20090413 06:46:04< eerf> Espreon: are you there?
20090413 06:46:43< Espreon> eerf: Open the terminal and type in "wesnoth".
20090413 06:46:47< Espreon> See what that does.
20090413 06:47:42< eerf> Espreon: The game has started.
20090413 06:47:49< Espreon> Good. :)
20090413 06:48:52< eerf> Espreon: where is the binary file?
20090413 06:49:36< Espreon> It is probably in /usr/local/bin/
20090413 06:49:41< eerf> Espreon: I want to create a shortcut.
20090413 06:50:07< eerf> Espreon: I got it.
20090413 06:50:15< eerf> Thanks
20090413 06:50:21< Espreon> You are welcome. :)
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20090413 08:33:59< eerf> hello
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20090413 08:34:23< eerf> I am looking for the wesnoth icon for my desktop shortcut.
20090413 08:34:29< eerf> Anyone know where I can get one?
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20090413 08:47:03< Espreon> eerf: There should be one in /usr/local/share/wesnoth/data/core/images/
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20090413 10:22:16< Ivanovic> moin
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20090413 12:04:39< AnMaster> hm, how is "Invasion from the Unknown" going? Any ideas when it might get mainlined?
20090413 12:11:14< Ivanovic> short guess: not any time too soon...
20090413 12:11:48< Ivanovic> and i don't think that mainlining it is a priority Shadow_Master has set himself
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20090413 12:18:21< AnMaster> mhm
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20090413 12:59:39< eerf> Espreon: Thanks again.
20090413 12:59:51< Espreon> You are welcome. :)
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20090413 14:56:58< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: what?
20090413 14:57:32< Ivanovic> [12:04:39] <AnMaster> hm, how is "Invasion from the Unknown" going? Any ideas when it might get mainlined?
20090413 14:57:39< Ivanovic> read the context and understand...
20090413 14:59:53< Shadow_Master> yeah, I don't really feel lik eit
20090413 15:00:12< Shadow_Master> I mean, I'd batter watch my back before I get struck by a car for real
20090413 15:00:49< Shadow_Master> (though now that I think of it, it wouldn't be a bad thing either)
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20090413 15:02:35< Shadow_Master> I know quite a lot of people who'd rather not see me around anymore. meh
20090413 15:02:54< Unnheulu> :O
20090413 15:02:54< Ivanovic> eg most translators?
20090413 15:02:56< Ivanovic> ;)
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20090413 15:23:31< Shadow_Master> shame on you Ivanovic .
20090413 15:23:46< Shadow_Master> JApporianoxRap spammed the forum 19 times in a row.
20090413 15:23:59< Shadow_Master> (it's solved now though)
20090413 15:24:51< Shadow_Master> (thanks my gods that there _is_ a "delete all posts by this user" option)
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20090413 15:28:34< Shadow_Master> AnMaster: so you were pondering about IftU's status?
20090413 15:28:41< AnMaster> yes
20090413 15:29:17< AnMaster> but now I'm pondering over memory corruption in IftU instead. Even valgrind isn't much help trying to find out why. Working on it though.
20090413 15:29:25< Shadow_Master> there are a lot of artwork lackings that I'm trying to solve myself, and the prose is also lacking _a lot_, but I cannot really fix that without help since I'm not a native speaker (and my spansih prose isn't good either)
20090413 15:29:36< Shadow_Master> there are also the occassional "I hit an engine bug" bug.
20090413 15:29:41< Shadow_Master> *bugs
20090413 15:30:14< Shadow_Master> in other words... not expecting it to be mainlined any soon, sorry.
20090413 15:31:08< Shadow_Master> (in fact, I as an author, and the mainline devs as the bunch of .... that thing, they are, do the impossible to introduce engine bugs that break IftU)
20090413 15:31:19< Shadow_Master> AnMaster: anyway, are you encountering this issue in 1.6 or 1.7.0-svn?
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20090413 15:33:51< AnMaster> Shadow_Master, trunk
20090413 15:34:09< Shadow_Master> ah, unsurprising.
20090413 15:35:32< Polarina> I get memory leaks when I start up wesnoth in valgrind, and some undefined behaviors.
20090413 15:35:45< Shadow_Master> so do I since 2007.
20090413 15:36:02< Polarina> :(
20090413 15:36:20< Polarina> ==28543== Source and destination overlap in memcpy(0x138937A0, 0x138937A0, 8192)
20090413 15:36:23< Polarina> That's evil!
20090413 15:36:32< Shadow_Master> AnMaster: do you have exact steps to reproduce, though? I'm suspecting that I may have something to do with it
20090413 15:37:50< AnMaster> Shadow_Master, yes, recruit lots of units in first scenario, advance at least one archer, try to recall in second scenario, sometimes it crashes, sometimes it works, sometimes it swap trashes and sometimes it spews messages about invalid utf-8 strings
20090413 15:38:01< AnMaster> also less likely if you load from a savegame later on
20090413 15:38:06< AnMaster> than if you play from the start
20090413 15:38:59< Shadow_Master> ummm
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20090413 15:40:47< AnMaster> Shadow_Master, hard to reproduce memory corruption bug yes.
20090413 15:40:58< AnMaster> and not sure if it is IftUs fault at all
20090413 15:41:08< Shadow_Master> no it isn't.
20090413 15:41:16< Shadow_Master> no campaign should be able to crash wesnoth unless wesnoth is faulty :P
20090413 15:41:29< Polarina> O'rly?
20090413 15:41:40< Polarina> I can make a campaign capable of doing that.
20090413 15:41:46< AnMaster> Shadow_Master, can't reproduce it in other campaigns though, so it is something that only IftU triggers
20090413 15:41:57< Shadow_Master> Polarina: looks like you need a dose of Silencium(R)
20090413 15:42:01< Shadow_Master> :)
20090413 15:42:11< Polarina> Shadow_Master: No, just eat up all the free memory.
20090413 15:42:30< AnMaster> Polarina, then why doesn't NR crash?
20090413 15:42:39< Polarina> NR?
20090413 15:42:47< Shadow_Master> shikadibot: NR?
20090413 15:42:47< shikadibot> NR: Northern Rebirth
20090413 15:42:50 * AnMaster had 800 MB RAM freed after quitting wesnoth in the middle of NR
20090413 15:43:01< Polarina> AnMaster: Swap?
20090413 15:43:03< AnMaster> from 0 while it was running
20090413 15:43:10< AnMaster> Polarina, swap more than 2/3 filled
20090413 15:43:17< AnMaster> and that is 1.5 GB swap
20090413 15:43:26< Polarina> AnMaster: It has to be filled for memory to run out.
20090413 15:43:32< AnMaster> indeed
20090413 15:43:46< Polarina> I got 8 GiB RAM and 12 GiB swap. :P
20090413 15:45:09< Shadow_Master> okay.
20090413 15:45:20< Shadow_Master> but are you really sure you don't need a dose of Silencium?
20090413 15:45:33< Shadow_Master> (R)
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20090413 15:46:03< Polarina> Pretty sure.
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20090413 18:24:47< Dark> Hi
20090413 18:24:51< Dark> we are palying a tournament map
20090413 18:24:52< Dark> 8 players
20090413 18:24:59< Dark> and after 4 are dead the rest are supposed to  continue
20090413 18:25:01-!- tsani__ [n=weechat@evw143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20090413 18:25:01< Dark> but they dont...
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20090413 18:25:05< Dark> how do you solve that problem?
20090413 18:25:14< tsani__> hi guys, quick one: where can i find the save location for windows version?
20090413 18:25:20< tsani__> i cannot find it 
20090413 18:25:23< Dark> Guys?
20090413 18:25:44 * tsani__ hears a wolf howling in the distance
20090413 18:25:46 * tsani__ frowns
20090413 18:26:17< tsani__> guys?
20090413 18:27:06< Dark> So mnobody knows?
20090413 18:27:51< tsani__> nevermind
20090413 18:27:52< tsani__> found it
20090413 18:27:56< tsani__> thanks for your idling
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20090413 18:28:10< Dark> 20 people + and nobody here?
20090413 18:28:11< Dark> Great..
20090413 18:28:32< elias> this is IRC, what did you expect? :P
20090413 18:29:01< elias> wait for an hour or two, and maybe someone has an answer
20090413 18:30:45< Dark> no wait
20090413 18:30:46< Dark> its 55 people
20090413 18:33:17< Dark> common guys how do we start the tournament map
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20090413 19:17:43< repli2dev2> HI
20090413 19:19:37< repli2dev2> I have problem with wesnoth: since thursday I cannot connect to official server. I can start server and connect from localhost and any other computer in local network. But no one else can connect from outside despite it worked till thursday
20090413 19:19:52< repli2dev2> Changing port have no effect
20090413 19:20:16< repli2dev2> Version 1.6a or 1.6.1 (it is already in gentoo)
20090413 19:21:16< repli2dev2> People can reach my computer I see in wesnothd -d messages like: debug server: 85.207.232.XYZ	new connection accepted. (socket: 4)
20090413 19:21:16< repli2dev2> 20090413 18:51:10 debug server: 85.207.232.114	Not logged in user disconnected.
20090413 19:22:06< Shadow_Master> do you happen to have installed <insert random Windows update here> that thursday?
20090413 19:23:04 * Shadow_Master : disclaimer: Shadow_Master doesn't use windows
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20090413 19:24:33< repli2dev2> No, using linux only
20090413 19:25:12< repli2dev2> stracing gets select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 0})      = 0 (Timeout)
20090413 19:25:21< repli2dev2> when trying to connect
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20090413 19:35:42< repli2dev2> after very long time it got me strange dialog with something like "error in hashing algorithm"
20090413 19:36:58< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader: cardiff won^^
20090413 19:36:59< Unnheulu> 3-1
20090413 19:37:26< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: yet again you seem to have failed to get the point that i really couldn't care any less
20090413 19:37:32< Unnheulu> hehehe
20090413 19:37:36< Unnheulu> :P
20090413 19:37:56< Unnheulu> ccardiff has guarranteed play offs, don't you care about that? :P:P
20090413 19:38:07< Unnheulu> possible automatic
20090413 19:38:57< Unnheulu> :P
20090413 19:42:58 * Unnheulu wonders why thespaceinvader doesnt seem to care^^
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20090413 19:44:00< thespaceinvader> i happen to live here because of my course.  I would have no particular connection with the city's team, even if I cared the slightest about football in general.  Some people don't.  You really should learn to accept that
20090413 19:44:14< Unnheulu> ^^
20090413 19:44:43 * Unnheulu wonders why thespaceinvader doesnt seem to care about footy^^ (Which is what I meant, not why e didnt care about bluebirds)
20090413 19:45:19< thespaceinvader> what sports don't you like?  Figure out why not, and you'll probably figure out why i don't like football
20090413 19:45:28< Unnheulu> humm
20090413 19:45:37< Unnheulu> rugby only, and thats jut cause I dont get it xD
20090413 19:46:09< Unnheulu> -.- england beat wales in 6 nations
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20090413 20:48:35< Dark> this is the deadest IRC ever :p
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20090413 20:48:46< Tomsik> IRC is dead
20090413 20:48:49< Tomsik> :-p
20090413 20:48:53< Tomsik> oh crap, he's gone already
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