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20090416 00:49:52< A_Guy> Anyone here need me to do the WML for something?
20090416 00:51:07< ancestral> Anyone have any experience using custom fonts in a scenario or theme?
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20090416 01:52:30< DDR> Hello, all. :)
20090416 01:52:52< JimmyJ> Hi.
20090416 01:53:12< JimmyJ> I've got a problem, I can't join the main wesnoth server due to some "hashing error".
20090416 01:53:30< JimmyJ> It forces me to play on alternate servers.
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20090416 06:14:02< jzmer> did anybody noticed that the chinese translation is so awkward that its a mixture of both classical chinese and modern slangs?
20090416 06:14:25< jzmer> this translation of wesnoth is not even consistent in its style
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20090416 10:27:35< Ivanovic> moin
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20090416 14:27:23< A_Guy> It's so hard to believe that WML used to be so confusing to me.
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20090416 14:39:23< VurtualRuler98> It's hard to beleive that we used to have weird beliefs about reproduction.
20090416 14:39:34< VurtualRuler98> Or that people used to think NSync was cool.
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20090416 14:39:51< Unnheulu> Or that people still think Windows is cool ;)
20090416 14:39:58< VurtualRuler98> It is.
20090416 14:40:10< Unnheulu> Seriously dude, so what if they they thought it was cool?
20090416 14:40:21< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: Name something you can do on windows you cant do on linux
20090416 14:40:27 * Unnheulu wonders why hes started the debate again
20090416 14:40:35< VurtualRuler98> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Gordon_Freeman_-_Valve_Concept_Art_-_Walking_with_a_crowbar_-_cropped.jpeg
20090416 14:40:41< VurtualRuler98> This is why windows is cool.
20090416 14:40:45< Unnheulu> anyone who wants to take part in this debate join #windowslinuxdebate
20090416 14:40:58< VurtualRuler98> Nonexistant channel!
20090416 14:41:07< Unnheulu> exactly
20090416 14:41:15< Unnheulu> so itll be empty other than people who wanna take part
20090416 14:41:18< Unnheulu> so join it :P
20090416 14:41:30< VurtualRuler98> No, I'm out of screenspace.
20090416 14:41:37< VurtualRuler98> I have to scroll up to read each individual previous line already.
20090416 14:41:42< Unnheulu> You can get art like that on linux, people just cant be bothered to
20090416 14:41:47< VurtualRuler98> This one takes up eight lines.
20090416 14:41:55< VurtualRuler98> Unnheulu, no, not the picture itself.
20090416 14:41:57< VurtualRuler98> The person.
20090416 14:41:58< Unnheulu> thats why I like xchat, I'll send a screenshot in a second
20090416 14:42:07< VurtualRuler98> Gordon Freeman.
20090416 14:42:25< Unnheulu> http://www.kidzpenarth.me.uk/Screenshot-1.png
20090416 14:42:26< VurtualRuler98> Half-Life and Half-Life 2 aren't going to work on any form of linux in a reliable fashion.
20090416 14:42:39< Unnheulu> They will in a year...
20090416 14:42:44< VurtualRuler98> That's the ugliest client I've seen in ever.
20090416 14:42:52< Unnheulu> show me yours then ;)
20090416 14:43:00< Unnheulu> I find this quite nice actually
20090416 14:43:05< Unnheulu> saves a lot of screen space
20090416 14:43:08< VurtualRuler98> You don't want to see what's in the windows.
20090416 14:43:09< Unnheulu> and looks nice
20090416 14:43:14< VurtualRuler98> You don't.
20090416 14:43:24< Unnheulu> plus it doesnt have all those ugly smily icons
20090416 14:43:30< VurtualRuler98> But it's plain gray, with plain white windows with plain black text.
20090416 14:43:34< Unnheulu> yes
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20090416 14:43:41< Unnheulu> I like simplicity
20090416 14:43:42< VurtualRuler98> The only shiny or smooth thing is the default windows XP window stuff.
20090416 14:43:50< Unnheulu> O.o!!!
20090416 14:43:54< Unnheulu> THAT IS NOT XP!!!
20090416 14:43:59< VurtualRuler98> No, my client.
20090416 14:44:00< Unnheulu> Thats an XFCE title bar
20090416 14:44:04< Unnheulu> version 4.2
20090416 14:44:08< VurtualRuler98> Yours is weirdly colored, and over-in-your-face.
20090416 14:44:14< Unnheulu> umm...
20090416 14:44:30< Unnheulu> I have, white, grey, black, one red line, and yellow to show when I'm bleeped
20090416 14:44:37< Unnheulu> the red line shows when the last person talked
20090416 14:44:38< VurtualRuler98> Big, blue bar, hard-to-read text.
20090416 14:44:46< Unnheulu> No
20090416 14:44:52< VurtualRuler98> That text hurts my eyes.
20090416 14:44:58< Unnheulu> my text is easier to read, cause Linux supports sub pixel, unlike windows
20090416 14:45:07< VurtualRuler98> I like my text readable.
20090416 14:45:08< Unnheulu> I can make my window bar smaller
20090416 14:45:17< Unnheulu> Alright, hang on a sec
20090416 14:45:21< VurtualRuler98> Even zoomed in, it's a stick-text which is hard to make out.
20090416 14:45:36< VurtualRuler98> Actually, that whole OS gives me horrible headaches.
20090416 14:45:37< Unnheulu> I set my text like that
20090416 14:45:42< Unnheulu> I set my os like that
20090416 14:45:47< Unnheulu> noones xfce is the same
20090416 14:45:49< VurtualRuler98> You have horrible tastes.
20090416 14:45:54< Unnheulu> nah
20090416 14:46:05< Unnheulu> Unless you think grunge is horrid
20090416 14:46:07< VurtualRuler98> You're one of those people with flashing myspace pages and weird blinding text.
20090416 14:46:13< Unnheulu> I dont have myspace
20090416 14:46:19< VurtualRuler98> It's just an example.
20090416 14:46:22< Unnheulu> I dont have weird blinding text
20090416 14:46:24< VurtualRuler98> Or steaming midi.
20090416 14:46:37< Unnheulu> I dont use midi...
20090416 14:46:43< Unnheulu> I use timidity^^
20090416 14:47:00< A_Guy> Windows FTW?
20090416 14:47:06< VurtualRuler98> I like my OS how it is, slightly-shiny plain gray bars with simple blank colors.
20090416 14:47:12< VurtualRuler98> wtf A_Guy.
20090416 14:47:17< VurtualRuler98> Are you stalking me too.
20090416 14:47:25< VurtualRuler98> There's a *_Guy everywhere.
20090416 14:47:39< VurtualRuler98> Wesnoth players are out to get me :'(
20090416 14:47:54< Unnheulu> bbl
20090416 14:48:22< Unnheulu> You can get decent games on linux
20090416 14:48:26< VurtualRuler98> But not half-life.
20090416 14:48:30< VurtualRuler98> Half-life is all that's important.
20090416 14:48:32< Unnheulu> so?
20090416 14:48:36< Unnheulu> You probably can
20090416 14:48:41< Unnheulu> a little bit of hacking
20090416 14:48:42< VurtualRuler98> Half-Life runs badly.
20090416 14:48:46< VurtualRuler98> Very badly.
20090416 14:48:48< Ivanovic> VurtualRuler98: then got to valve and complain there
20090416 14:48:59< VurtualRuler98> Actually, all the good games I know run badly.
20090416 14:49:04< Ivanovic> but i can directly tell you their answer: "we do not support linux"
20090416 14:49:13< VurtualRuler98> Mhm.
20090416 14:49:22< Ivanovic> and yeah, you bought a *windows* game, how do you expect it to run under linux?
20090416 14:49:48< VurtualRuler98> I dunno, but I'm not thinking these arguments through.
20090416 14:49:53< Ivanovic> all linux games i have run without any problem on linux (no matter if ut2004, ut2004, etqw, doom3, ankh1 and 2, ...)
20090416 14:49:54< VurtualRuler98> I just continously counter everything.
20090416 14:49:55< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: so wesnoth isnt a good game?
20090416 14:50:07< VurtualRuler98> Open source doesn't count.
20090416 14:50:13< Unnheulu> ^^
20090416 14:50:26< VurtualRuler98> Because it'll always run on everything.
20090416 14:50:28< Ivanovic> (that is: commercial games that also offer either a linux point release or a native linux version in some shops)
20090416 14:50:28< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: whats that space game?
20090416 14:50:38< Unnheulu> where you shoot people and stuff>
20090416 14:50:44< Ivanovic> right, nwn works perfectly, too
20090416 14:50:48< Unnheulu> Tahts proprietary and supports linux
20090416 14:50:53< Unnheulu> runescape supports linux
20090416 14:50:56< VurtualRuler98> There are space games where you don't shoot people?
20090416 14:50:58< Unnheulu> the devs use linux
20090416 14:51:08< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: and runescape is very important to you :P
20090416 14:51:12< VurtualRuler98> No, it isn't.
20090416 14:51:19< VurtualRuler98> It's a horrible, horrible game.
20090416 14:51:21< Unnheulu> then why do you play it? :P
20090416 14:51:24< VurtualRuler98> I don't.
20090416 14:51:30< Unnheulu> everyone
20090416 14:51:36< Unnheulu> #runescape@irc.tip.it
20090416 14:51:56< Unnheulu> I discovered you once when I actually playde that game^^
20090416 14:51:56< VurtualRuler98> I can name ten or so people who never have and never will.
20090416 14:52:26< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: At least I can point out the good points in windows, not jsut say whats wrong with it
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20090416 14:52:32< Unnheulu> you cant do the same for linux
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20090416 14:52:49< VurtualRuler98> Linux provides the illusion that you can fix a problem.
20090416 14:53:13< Ivanovic> VurtualRuler98: in fact you can (if you are good enough)
20090416 14:53:23< VurtualRuler98> And it comes in more flavors than a model T on drugs.
20090416 14:53:37< Ivanovic> in theory you can also do so on windows, though there it is *a lot* more difficult
20090416 14:53:51< elias> if you use Ubuntu, there's only a single flavor
20090416 14:53:52< VurtualRuler98> Windows: You yell at some guy to do everything for you.
20090416 14:53:52< Ivanovic> (since i am not this good in coding in x86 binary...)
20090416 14:54:05< VurtualRuler98> "Hey, this doesn't work, fix it."
20090416 14:54:11< Unnheulu> bye
20090416 14:54:13< Unnheulu> bbl
20090416 14:54:14< VurtualRuler98> Then you grab a mountain dew and do something else, then it works.
20090416 14:54:36< VurtualRuler98> That's called capitalism.
20090416 14:54:43< VurtualRuler98> It works well, even if you don't intend it to.
20090416 14:54:50< elias> that's just how it works in Linux as well
20090416 14:55:31< Ivanovic> you can also yell at someone regarding linux problems, give that guy some loads of money and some time later the problem is fixed
20090416 14:55:39< VurtualRuler98> "Oh, you could try this patch I guess." "It isn't working." "Oh, it hasn't been upgraded to the 'kitten' version yet."
20090416 14:56:01< Ivanovic> looks like the people you yelled at were not *paid* to help you
20090416 14:56:03< Ivanovic> ;)
20090416 14:56:10< Unnheulu> ^^
20090416 14:56:15< VurtualRuler98> >_>
20090416 14:56:34< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: you american?
20090416 14:56:36< VurtualRuler98> *hours of trying to fix it* "Oh, a patch for kitten came out." *apply* *not work* *rage*
20090416 14:56:48< VurtualRuler98> Yes, I am a citizen of the United States of America.
20090416 14:56:54< Unnheulu> you must have used the wrong patch ;)
20090416 14:57:00< Unnheulu> your government uses linux
20090416 14:57:05< Ivanovic> VurtualRuler98: you are free to pay someone to get help/support with linux problems
20090416 14:57:06< Unnheulu> as does the CAA
20090416 14:57:12< VurtualRuler98> So?
20090416 14:57:12< Ivanovic> as you also have to pay to get support for windows
20090416 14:57:18< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: if you pay its guarranteed to work
20090416 14:57:20< VurtualRuler98> They're the government, they force people to help them with invisible people.
20090416 14:57:42< VurtualRuler98> "Fix this." "No! Wait, what was that noise?" "Invisible people."
20090416 14:57:44< Ivanovic> no, they *pay* for support
20090416 14:57:46< Unnheulu> once when I had a fatal bug in my software, as soon as it was pointed out I pushed out a patch
20090416 14:57:48< elias> and why would you ever want to apply a patch? just use "apt-get" to get any fixes
20090416 14:57:56< Unnheulu> with microsoft it takes months
20090416 14:58:01< Ivanovic> what you seem to not be willing to do for open source software that you got for completely free
20090416 14:58:05< Ivanovic> any yeah, support costs money
20090416 14:58:08< Ivanovic> lots of money
20090416 14:58:15< VurtualRuler98> Also, what would I benefit from using linux?
20090416 14:58:17< Unnheulu> conficker took weeks to fix
20090416 14:58:40< VurtualRuler98> So, you can patch things reliably due to having communists working on it, what else?
20090416 14:58:49< Ivanovic> VurtualRuler98: for me as "geek" it is just more compftable and reliable
20090416 14:59:16< VurtualRuler98> So it's extra soft?
20090416 14:59:31< Ivanovic> no, it does not cripple me when working with it
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20090416 14:59:43< VurtualRuler98> I've never been "crippled" by windows.
20090416 14:59:55< Soliton> how would you know?
20090416 14:59:59< elias> you never was forced to reboot just because it updates itself?
20090416 15:00:01< VurtualRuler98> Except windows Me, that bluescreened a few times, except the fact that my mom had somehow gotten 7 million different forms of adware on it would matter.
20090416 15:00:15< VurtualRuler98> There's actually a big shiny button here that tells it to not reboot automatically.
20090416 15:00:23< Ivanovic> you don't *know* that you might be crippled
20090416 15:00:25< VurtualRuler98> Or steal my internet.
20090416 15:00:43< Ivanovic> stuff like middle mouse button pasting and using a package manager is just *great*
20090416 15:00:52< VurtualRuler98> It runs for months at a time, and brings me updates like a happy little operating system, then runs mIRC, firefox, and steam.
20090416 15:00:56< Ivanovic> and i don't want to miss the well integrated virtual desktop
20090416 15:01:00< Soliton> if you're happy with windows stay with windows just don't pretend you know all about linux.
20090416 15:01:03< elias> i hate middle mouse button pasting, it's the first think i disabled :P
20090416 15:01:12< VurtualRuler98> Since when did mouse3 paste?
20090416 15:01:19< Ivanovic> VurtualRuler98: on linux it does
20090416 15:01:23< Ivanovic> it pasts what you mark
20090416 15:01:42< VurtualRuler98> Also, windows has microsoft sam.
20090416 15:02:45< VurtualRuler98> Microsoft Sam says: Linux causes kittens to turn into cheese.
20090416 15:03:32< Soliton> that's a good thing, right?
20090416 15:03:36< VurtualRuler98> Yes.
20090416 15:03:41< VurtualRuler98> It can turn any sentence into funny.
20090416 15:03:49< VurtualRuler98> Wait, kittens into cheese? no.
20090416 15:06:36 * Soliton goes to eat a cheese sandwich.
20090416 15:08:14< VurtualRuler98> Now something to agree on: Whoever gives all the technical information for movies is either really stupid, or is laughing so hard right now.
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20090416 15:09:49< VurtualRuler98> "What are you doing?" "I'm hacking the GIF image format. Students like to pass notes by encrypting them in the message." *random pictures appear, in a slow, blocky-pixelated fashion, then text pops up*
20090416 15:12:03< danderson> VurtualRuler98: jeez, what movie is that from?
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20090416 15:12:10< VurtualRuler98> I don't remember.
20090416 15:12:18< VurtualRuler98> But it had some guy who stole a girl and then had a bunch of pictures on the wall.
20090416 15:12:21< VurtualRuler98> Then another picture was missing.
20090416 15:12:31< VurtualRuler98> All I know is that everyone in the room felt sick after that part.
20090416 15:12:37< VurtualRuler98> Even the mac users(who were shortly driven out)
20090416 15:12:53< Tomsik> What
20090416 15:13:17< VurtualRuler98> >_>
20090416 15:13:25< VurtualRuler98> It's not relevant to you.
20090416 15:13:36< VurtualRuler98> If you knew what horrible thing happened in said movie, you'd be vomiting.
20090416 15:13:56< Tomsik> I've seen Salo, it can't get much worse than that
20090416 15:15:11< VurtualRuler98> Might've been a die hard movie.
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20090416 16:48:34< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: whats so crazy about that?^^
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20090416 16:53:09< VurtualRuler98> Someone was "hacking" by typing on a keyboard randomly, while an image randomly changed and became a webcam.
20090416 16:53:18< VurtualRuler98> So apparently GIFs can contain webcam feeds.
20090416 16:58:35< keb> gif89a can contain sequences of still pics
20090416 16:58:50< keb> but not a live stream
20090416 17:02:07< VurtualRuler98> exactly
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20090416 17:31:00< Unnheulu> Assuming its a standard gif...
20090416 17:31:07< Unnheulu> if someone hacked the format ;)
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20090416 17:50:48< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: Have you ever actually *tried* linux?
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20090416 18:50:23< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98: Have you ever actually *tried* linux?
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20090416 18:50:46< Smar> (testing ubuntu != testing linux ;)
20090416 18:52:03< Unnheulu> VurtualRuler98 was going on about ubuntu, rather than linux?
20090416 18:52:28< Soliton> how about you just let the pointless discussion die?
20090416 18:52:42< Smar> Soliton: sure, bring better topic.
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20090416 18:59:37< Rrenys> And right before hodor's triumph, the enemy disconnects suspiciously
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20090416 19:24:27< woden> What is the best way to get wesnoth 1.6.1 on Fedora?
20090416 19:28:20< Turuk> Ken_Oh, around?
20090416 19:28:53< Soliton> woden: well, if there is no package compile it yourself.
20090416 19:29:09< woden> Soliton:  Which compilation method should I use?
20090416 19:29:25< Unnheulu> woden: whichever your most comfortable with...
20090416 19:30:27< woden> Unnheulu:  They each work equally well?
20090416 19:30:40< Unnheulu> why wouldnt they? :P
20090416 19:31:04< woden> Unnheulu:  Because the INSTALL document says otherwise.
20090416 19:31:13< Unnheulu> oh...
20090416 19:31:24 * Unnheulu doesn't read that anymore^^
20090416 19:31:29< Unnheulu> I just use make :/
20090416 19:31:52< woden> Unnheulu:  You mean cmake?
20090416 19:32:19< Unnheulu> dunno^^
20090416 19:32:25< Unnheulu> make make install, probably
20090416 19:32:38< Smar> autotools then, afaik
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20090416 19:33:14< Unnheulu> thats the one
20090416 19:33:37< Unnheulu> I remember now^^
20090416 19:33:39< Smar> I’ve always hated it, as I can’t really understand how it works...
20090416 19:34:12< Unnheulu> autotools?
20090416 19:34:28< Smar> that.
20090416 19:35:13< Unnheulu> its simple
20090416 19:35:17< Unnheulu> ./configure
20090416 19:35:18< Unnheulu> make
20090416 19:35:22< Unnheulu> sudo make install
20090416 19:35:24< Unnheulu> done :/
20090416 19:35:30< Smar> no, what happens behind that
20090416 19:35:40< Smar> also, how you create those
20090416 19:35:46< Smar> also, how you maintain them
20090416 19:35:53< Smar> and that stuff
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20090416 19:45:44< Ken_Oh> hey, turuk, i'm here
20090416 19:45:51< Ken_Oh> Re: the PM, sounds good
20090416 19:45:56< Turuk> Woot, ok
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20090416 20:19:06< A_Guy> Anyone need me to do WML for something?
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20090416 20:37:47< woden> I get this error when compiling 1.6.1 source:
20090416 20:37:47< woden> checking for Boost headers version >= 1.33... no
20090416 20:37:47< woden> configure: error: Could not find Boost headers version >= 1.33
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20090416 20:38:45< woden> I am using Fedora 10.  My system says that I have boost-1.34.1 and boost-devel-1.34.1 installed.  What am I missing?
20090416 20:38:46< shadowmaster> woden: do you have installed the development libraries as well?
20090416 20:38:55< shadowmaster>  right.
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20090416 20:44:34< woden> ...disconnected
20090416 20:44:42< woden> What am I missing?
20090416 20:45:57< Unnheulu> woden: as shadowmaster correctly stated your need the development libraries as well
20090416 20:46:03< shikadibot> he has them
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20090416 20:46:13< Unnheulu> :/ ok
20090416 20:46:20< shadowmaster> woden: perhaps you could throw your config.log in a pastebin, e.g wesnoth.pastebin.com ?
20090416 20:46:54< shadowmaster> that should enlighten us a bit
20090416 20:47:16< woden> Where is config.log?
20090416 20:47:42< shadowmaster> in the same place your configure script is, usually
20090416 20:47:54< shadowmaster> if you are using scons, it 's in build/
20090416 20:48:24< Unnheulu> he's using cmake...
20090416 20:48:37< shadowmaster> oh, no idea then.
20090416 20:48:51< Unnheulu> woden: gedit config.log
20090416 20:48:55< Unnheulu> or w/e fedora has
20090416 20:48:56< woden> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m63a4896d
20090416 20:50:20< shadowmaster> > g++: command not found
20090416 20:50:31< woden> ./configure: line 13820: g++: command not found
20090416 20:50:39< shadowmaster> did you install g++ (the GNU C++ compiler, not always included with the C one)
20090416 20:51:02< woden> No because I didn't see that listed as a prerequisite on http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/CompilingWesnoth
20090416 20:51:29< Unnheulu> shadowmaster: isnt G++ built in?
20090416 20:51:32< Unnheulu> Or is that gcc?
20090416 20:51:42< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: you are thinking of the C backend, yes
20090416 20:51:57< Unnheulu> ok
20090416 20:52:05< shadowmaster> woden: right. Most package managers will select g++ if you choose boost-devel or suchlike
20090416 20:52:58< woden> shadowmaster:  I guess that Fedora 10 doesn't do that?
20090416 20:52:59< shadowmaster> example: here libstdc++6-4.3-dev depends on g++-4.3 (Debian, lenny)
20090416 20:53:11< shadowmaster> perhaps it's a mistake
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20090416 20:56:09< woden> Well my package manager just died
20090416 20:57:45< Unnheulu> ^^
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20090416 21:00:07< woden> Fixed it.  Anyway, I looked at the dependencies of boost-devel on Fedora 10.  There is no g++
20090416 21:00:40< Unnheulu> g++ is built into it
20090416 21:00:47< Unnheulu> I remember finding that strange...
20090416 21:01:29< Soliton> a compiler is kind of an implicit dependency for compiling stuff...
20090416 21:01:36< Soliton> just install g++.
20090416 21:01:46< woden> I think what I need is gcc-c++
20090416 21:02:03< woden> Well I already had gcc
20090416 21:02:20< Soliton> wesnoth is in c++.
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20090416 21:02:33 * woden shrugs
20090416 21:02:40< woden> That's not obvious to me :)
20090416 21:02:41< Unnheulu> soliton G++ isnt in the debian repo, dno about fedora
20090416 21:02:55< Unnheulu> it seems built into build-develop ;)
20090416 21:02:58< Unnheulu> or w/e
20090416 21:03:07< woden> anywho...should be able to compile now that g++ is installed on my system.
20090416 21:03:28< Soliton> g++ is certainly in debian.
20090416 21:03:58< Soliton> and most likely in any other distribution out there.
20090416 21:04:44< Unnheulu> Soliton: its build into another package in the ubuntu repo
20090416 21:04:55< Unnheulu> which last time I checked piggybacks the debian^^
20090416 21:05:34< Soliton> many packages depend directly or indirectly on g++ i'm sure.
20090416 21:06:19< Unnheulu> I remember installing another package to get G++ ;)
20090416 21:06:25< Unnheulu> but, I could be wrong
20090416 21:07:16< Soliton> that's what i just said i thought.
20090416 21:07:51< Unnheulu> and I could be wrong ;)
20090416 21:08:12< Unnheulu> especially as there is only a month in the year that I need g++ it seems
20090416 21:08:17< Patterner> g++ in my gcc package.
20090416 21:10:05< woden> It may be different in other distros, but at least in Fedora 10 there are two separate packages:  gcc and gcc-c++
20090416 21:10:33 * Unnheulu thinks red hat are clever then^^
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20090416 21:29:10< Unnheulu>  hi Blueblaze
20090416 21:29:39< Blueblaze> hey Unnheulu
20090416 21:33:04< woden> I don't have to "make install" do I?
20090416 21:33:48< Unnheulu> no
20090416 21:33:55< Unnheulu> ./wesnoth
20090416 21:34:03< Unnheulu> or sudo make install to isntall it
20090416 21:34:39< woden> Alrighty it compiled, thanks for all the help
20090416 21:36:01< woden> Uh wait.  One more question
20090416 21:36:05< woden> Where is ./wesnoth?
20090416 21:36:25< Unnheulu> in the directory you compiled in
20090416 21:36:33< Unnheulu> I think :/
20090416 21:36:46< woden> bash: ./wesnoth: No such file or directory
20090416 21:36:52< Unnheulu> ^_^
20090416 21:36:53< Unnheulu> oops
20090416 21:37:16< Unnheulu> It works in supertux/stk and stuff :/
20090416 21:37:23< woden> There is wesnoth in the src/ directory
20090416 21:37:26< Unnheulu> your right^^
20090416 21:37:35< Unnheulu> run that
20090416 21:37:42< Unnheulu> cd src/
20090416 21:37:45< Unnheulu> ./wesnoth
20090416 21:37:57< woden> But I get this error:  http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m436e5df4
20090416 21:39:11< Soliton> if the executable is under src/ start it as src/wesnoth.
20090416 21:39:24< Unnheulu> ohh...
20090416 21:39:27< Unnheulu> yh...
20090416 21:39:33< Unnheulu> I remember xD
20090416 21:39:47 * Unnheulu feels really stupid now
20090416 21:39:56< Soliton> so it can auto detect the data dir otherwise you have to explcitely tell it the location.
20090416 21:40:06< woden> Still getting this error:  http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m7874dbf5
20090416 21:40:18< Soliton> Unnheulu: just try not to help when you're not sure about your answers. ;-)
20090416 21:40:35< Unnheulu> Soliton: I thought I was sure ^^
20090416 21:40:48 * Unnheulu decides he shuold work of his memory in future
20090416 21:40:53< Soliton> woden: try "src/wesnoth ."
20090416 21:41:07< woden> Yea that works
20090416 21:41:10< woden> the magic period
20090416 21:41:28< Soliton> looks like the autodetection doesn't work right.
20090416 21:42:16< woden> then perhaps my time here has not been a complete waste
20090416 21:43:39< woden> Console output says:  Overriding data directory with .
20090416 21:47:40< woden> Soliton:  Will the game work properly when run this way?
20090416 21:48:27< Soliton> it should.
20090416 21:48:40< Unnheulu> why not install it though?
20090416 21:48:56< woden> Unnheulu:  I don't want to make my system messy.
20090416 21:48:59< Unnheulu> other than the fact that if you lose the source you cant unninstall
20090416 21:49:03< Unnheulu> ok
20090416 21:49:14< Soliton> set prefix to whatever you like.
20090416 21:49:26< Soliton> i install somewhere in my $HOME.
20090416 21:49:56< woden> I am making a launcher.  Where is the svg icon for wesnoth?
20090416 21:50:14< Soliton> i don't think we have one.
20090416 21:50:41< Unnheulu> groovy is making one
20090416 21:50:48< Unnheulu> only bitmap atm
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20090416 22:30:36< krotop> test
20090416 22:30:45< Blueblaze> test failed
20090416 22:30:47< Blueblaze> :(
20090416 22:30:57< krotop> oop
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20090416 23:56:07< Ivanovic> n8
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