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I'm a quit message virus vaccine. If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!"] 20090421 02:11:18-!- noy [n=Noy@d75-157-52-251.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 02:16:49-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090421 02:20:22-!- Ken_Oh [n=dick@c-68-34-50-27.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 02:22:58-!- masa_edw [n=masa@7c29465b.i-revonet.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 02:23:50-!- masa_edw [n=masa@7c29465b.i-revonet.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 20090421 02:37:34-!- Ken_Oh [n=dick@c-68-34-50-27.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090421 02:50:30< Ischaldirh> who is nate 20090421 02:51:23-!- ilor_ [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090421 02:52:09-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 02:54:57< JimmyJ> Not me. 20090421 02:55:27< VurtualRuler98> not me 20090421 02:57:03< VurtualRuler98> #Wesnoth is at the forefront of technology, it records logs for you. 20090421 03:01:24-!- Miccoh [n=Miccoh@cs78178075.pp.htv.fi] has quit ["Nyt tunnen kutsumusta vaaka-asentoon."] 20090421 03:10:49-!- ilor_ [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 03:14:30-!- Nissarin [n=nissarin@91.202.192.102] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090421 03:18:00-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has left #wesnoth [] 20090421 03:28:45-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090421 03:35:48-!- Polarina [n=polarina@wesnoth/translator/Polarina] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090421 03:43:20-!- mthe [n=mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [] 20090421 04:10:01-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 04:16:27-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@c-98-199-143-139.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 04:32:46-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@adsl-76-229-202-137.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 04:33:41< [Relic]> Hello :) 20090421 04:39:32-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090421 04:39:48-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 04:43:10< JimmyJ> Hi. 20090421 04:57:50-!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 04:57:53-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090421 05:04:24-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 05:10:44-!- JW1 [n=X@c-71-57-85-168.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 05:11:17-!- keb [i=keb@pdpc/supporter/active/keb] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 05:13:38-!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090421 05:13:54-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20090421 05:20:30-!- ilor_ [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090421 05:21:51-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090421 05:25:01-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090421 05:26:30-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090421 05:32:01-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090421 05:44:41< ancestral> So who got away with mainlining "chocobone"? 20090421 05:45:20< keb> omg i hate those things, they destroy my horsemen and riders all the time 20090421 05:45:50< ancestral> I mean, this is a complete joke 20090421 05:46:33< ancestral> (and parody) 20090421 05:46:45< keb> your complaint or the campaign 20090421 05:46:51< ancestral> The unit 20090421 05:47:09< keb> whats wrong with them 20090421 05:47:24< ancestral> An undead riding an undead horse? 20090421 05:47:26< ancestral> And 20090421 05:47:28 * Blueblaze loves chocobones 20090421 05:47:38< ancestral> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocobo 20090421 05:48:12 * Blueblaze loves chocobos too 20090421 05:48:22< ancestral> Whoever made that unit was not serious 20090421 05:48:37< keb> doesnt seem related 20090421 05:48:47< ancestral> You kidding me? 20090421 05:48:52< Blueblaze> lol 20090421 05:48:57< Blueblaze> keb: It is very related :) 20090421 05:48:59< keb> its a bird with similar name 20090421 05:49:10< Blueblaze> keb: It isn't a natural bird 20090421 05:49:10< ancestral> A chocobo (チョコボ chokobo?) is a fictional, large, and normally flightless galliforme/ratite bird capable of being ridden. 20090421 05:49:17< Blueblaze> It's a bird from Final Fantasy 20090421 05:49:21< Blueblaze> The most popular RPG series ever 20090421 05:49:27< Blueblaze> And the bird appears basically in every FF game 20090421 05:49:29< keb> i never played it 20090421 05:49:40< ancestral> Kind of IP from Square/Enix 20090421 05:49:46< Blueblaze> keb: It is a series of games 20090421 05:50:02< Blueblaze> One of the best selling series of all time for consoles 20090421 05:50:22< keb> yeah i never understood why it is called Final Fantasy when it doesnt end 20090421 05:50:29< keb> whats final about it 20090421 05:50:33< ancestral> that's sort of a joke, too 20090421 05:50:34< Blueblaze> "In July 2007, the series was listed as the fourth-best-selling video game franchise." 20090421 05:51:04< Blueblaze> I think it is currently the 5th best selling 20090421 05:51:12< keb> Chocobos have been parodied in several webcomics including VG Cats,[15][16][17] RPG World as Dragobos,[citation needed] 8-bit Theatre,[citation needed] and Weebl and Bob.[18] 20090421 05:51:12< ancestral> 'Final Fantasy was developed during Square's brush with bankruptcy in 1987, and in a display of gallows humor, director Hironobu Sakaguchi declared that his "final" game would be a "fantasy" role-playing game; hence the title.' 20090421 05:51:12< Blueblaze> just because they haven't released a AAA game in awhile 20090421 05:51:20< Blueblaze> They'll retain 4th spot though by the end of 2010 20090421 05:51:22< keb> maybe someone should add Battle for Wesnoth to the list 20090421 05:51:31< ancestral> BFW doesn't sell out 20090421 05:51:46< keb> but you allege that they are using the IP 20090421 05:51:50< Blueblaze> keb: Final Fantasy series has sold over 85 million copies around the world 20090421 05:52:01< Blueblaze> keb: Wesnoth has 3 million downloads around the world 20090421 05:52:05< ancestral> uh oh, Blue's gotten started… 20090421 05:52:05< keb> sales doesnt mean its good, jsut that people pay money 20090421 05:52:15< keb> e.g. britney spears 20090421 05:52:15< Blueblaze> ancestral: bam 20090421 05:52:56< keb> and mcdonalds has sold 100billion burgers lol 20090421 05:53:06< ancestral> Probably more 20090421 05:53:27< keb> ok i admit i bought about 5 20090421 05:54:19< keb> ancestral do you think they should be taken out or renamed 20090421 05:54:41< ancestral> I don't know, part of me wants to leave them in 20090421 05:54:53< ancestral> Part of me wants to just axe them out entirely 20090421 05:54:56< Blueblaze> ancestral: Well parodies are protected in America at least 20090421 05:55:13< ancestral> I just think a skeleton riding on a skeleton horse is silly 20090421 05:55:25< ancestral> Or skeleton ox 20090421 05:55:28< ancestral> Or skeleton mule 20090421 05:55:32< ancestral> Or skeleton hippo 20090421 05:55:42< VurtualRuler98> As opposed to a skeleton human. 20090421 05:55:47< VurtualRuler98> (skeleton humanoid?) 20090421 05:55:50< keb> well when the zombies kill your riders they become the zombies riding zombie horses 20090421 05:56:02< keb> but not as fast 20090421 05:56:08< ancestral> Zombies aren't skeletons 20090421 05:56:19< VurtualRuler98> They should have their spines fused. 20090421 05:56:20< keb> whats the difference 20090421 05:56:29< ancestral> uh oh 20090421 05:58:17< ancestral> "The major difference between a skeleton and a zombie is the bone to flesh ratio. (But don't tell them this. They like to believe there's more to it than that. There isn't.) If there is more than a 2.5:1 bone to flesh ratio, it is a skeleton. Less than 2.5:1, it's a zombie." —http://www.thatchickensite.com/letters/undeadstudies/ 20090421 05:58:55< ancestral> I don't think skeletons want brains 20090421 05:59:03< ancestral> They just want, um, 20090421 05:59:12< ancestral> I don't know what they want 20090421 05:59:24< ancestral> Certainly not skeleton animals to ride on 20090421 05:59:24< keb> jewels to put in their eye sockets 20090421 05:59:29< ancestral> Yeah! 20090421 06:02:23< Blueblaze> keb: well, Metacritic ranked Final Fantasy 9 the 5th best reviewed game on the PSOne, Final Fantasy 7 ranks 14th for PS1, Final Fantasy 8 is 28th for PS1, Final Fantasy Chronicles is 31st for PS1, Final Fantasy Tactics is 69th for PS1, Final Fantasy Anthology is 82nd for PS1, Final Fantasy Origins is 87th for PS1, Final Fantasy 13 is 32nd for PS2, Final Fantasy 10 is 34th for PS2, Final Fantasy IV is 29th for Nintendo DS, Final 20090421 06:02:25< Blueblaze> Fantasy 13: Revenant Wings is 66th for DS, Final Fantasy Tactics A2 is 73rd for DS, Final Fantasy VI Advance is 9th for GBA, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is 26th for GBA, Final Fantasy IV Advance is 36 for GBA, Final Fantasy V Advance is 55th, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King is 45th for Wii, Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon is 66th for Wii, Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions is 4th for PSP, Final 20090421 06:02:27< Blueblaze> Fantasy VII: Advent Children is 7th for PSP, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII is 30th for PSP 20090421 06:02:36< keb> dude 20090421 06:02:46< Blueblaze> :) 20090421 06:02:50< Blueblaze> [Relic]: :) 20090421 06:02:53< keb> what does all that mean for me 20090421 06:03:03< Blueblaze> It means don't compare Final Fantasy to Britney Spears 20090421 06:03:04< keb> i dont have a ps1 or ps2 or ps3 20090421 06:03:05< Blueblaze> :| 20090421 06:03:09< keb> or psp 20090421 06:03:25< Blueblaze> What about a DS, GBA, or Wii? 20090421 06:03:33< keb> oic you talking its a kwality game 20090421 06:03:40< Blueblaze> yeah 20090421 06:03:42< keb> nope 20090421 06:03:45< ancestral> And movie spinoffs and stuff 20090421 06:03:50< keb> i got a computer 20090421 06:04:04< ancestral> And a great, great battle conclusion jungle 20090421 06:04:05< VurtualRuler98> I own a bunch of nintendo consoles, PC, and a dreamcast. 20090421 06:04:07< ancestral> *jingle 20090421 06:04:24< Blueblaze> keb: Anyway, the point was that the series is very popular, but it is also a high quality series too 20090421 06:05:03< Blueblaze> keb: And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Final_Fantasy 20090421 06:05:09< Blueblaze> You can read about the quality of the music too 20090421 06:05:20< Blueblaze> Which imo, no other video game series comes close 20090421 06:06:02< keb> what about tetris 20090421 06:06:06< VurtualRuler98> Secret of Mana? 20090421 06:06:19< ancestral> Heh Tetris has real already composed music (not original) 20090421 06:06:40< ancestral> Hehehe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glu5wr5LRm4 20090421 06:06:57< VurtualRuler98> doo dodo do doo doo dee doo doo dodo do doo doo dee dododo, doo doo. 20090421 06:07:02 * Blueblaze is watching that right now ancestral 20090421 06:07:03< keb> i never heard music in tetris, i played the free version nyet.exe for dos and still play it 10 years later 20090421 06:07:17< ancestral> But 20090421 06:07:20< VurtualRuler98> keb, get a real tetris. 20090421 06:07:24< VurtualRuler98> Music adds fun. 20090421 06:07:34< ancestral> Tetris, is another story, of convoluted copyrights 20090421 06:07:40 * ancestral digging for that article now... 20090421 06:07:49< VurtualRuler98> Owned by russians. 20090421 06:07:58< VurtualRuler98> Creator sold it himself STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM. 20090421 06:08:36< ancestral> Tetris: a history http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/special/tetrishist.html 20090421 06:08:37 * Blueblaze thinks FF10's Hymn of the Fayth is the best song in Final Fantasy 20090421 06:09:00< VurtualRuler98> Oh man, nostalgia of plaintext sites in bad colors on black. 20090421 06:09:05< VurtualRuler98> With cheaply done pictures. 20090421 06:09:05< ancestral> haha 20090421 06:09:11< ancestral> But it's quite informative 20090421 06:09:39< Blueblaze> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwgnhIB1WQ0 20090421 06:09:41< Blueblaze> the best ever 20090421 06:10:07< VurtualRuler98> But why purple. 20090421 06:10:09 * Blueblaze is taken back to Spira 20090421 06:10:29< Blueblaze> wait 20090421 06:10:31< Blueblaze> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVST7P37IM&feature=related 20090421 06:10:34< ancestral> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N6fk1M3bpk&feature=related 20090421 06:10:35< Blueblaze> This is to get the most Hymn of the Fayth 20090421 06:11:02-!- harry1 [n=harryBer@89-178-223-158.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 20090421 06:11:09< Blueblaze> ancestral: I'd rather listen to the original thing 20090421 06:11:10< Blueblaze> :P 20090421 06:11:12< Blueblaze> Even though that is neat 20090421 06:11:24< VurtualRuler98> But do your games have gameplay? 20090421 06:11:24< Blueblaze> keb: Listen to this for 8 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVST7P37IM&feature=related 20090421 06:11:27< VurtualRuler98> All you ever talk about is music. 20090421 06:11:40 * Blueblaze thought FF10 had an awesome story 20090421 06:11:45< VurtualRuler98> And the appearances of challengers. 20090421 06:11:45< Blueblaze> FF13 sucked story-wise 20090421 06:11:47< Blueblaze> :/ 20090421 06:11:47< VurtualRuler98> Story != gameplay. 20090421 06:11:52< Blueblaze> ohh 20090421 06:11:56< Blueblaze> FF13 had the best gameplay in the series imo 20090421 06:11:58< VurtualRuler98> It's not a book. 20090421 06:12:06< Blueblaze> Final Fantasy games play like an interactive book 20090421 06:12:09< Blueblaze> That's what RPGs are 20090421 06:12:12< VurtualRuler98> Or a movie. 20090421 06:12:13< Blueblaze> well JRPGs 20090421 06:12:18< VurtualRuler98> Secret of Mana doesn't. 20090421 06:12:35< ancestral> Secret of Mana is an awesome game 20090421 06:12:38< VurtualRuler98> It's hit stuff with a sword, then spam fireball, spam fireball, more zelda-like combat, fireball, heal. 20090421 06:12:48< VurtualRuler98> Then plot point, all while awesome music plays. 20090421 06:12:56< Blueblaze> Seiken Densetsu is quite awesome 20090421 06:12:58< Blueblaze> :x 20090421 06:12:59< Blueblaze> 2* 20090421 06:13:10< VurtualRuler98> 3 was dissapointing. 20090421 06:13:21< VurtualRuler98> It removed the 4-itme limit, allowed character switch-around, and failed at graphics. 20090421 06:13:25< Blueblaze> Anyway, Secret of Mana is just a Final Fantasy game 20090421 06:13:27< Blueblaze> with a new name 20090421 06:13:31< VurtualRuler98> Not really. 20090421 06:13:41< Blueblaze> yeah it is 20090421 06:13:42< VurtualRuler98> Final Fantasy has challenger-appearing, plays differently, and creepy. 20090421 06:13:55< Blueblaze> no, I mean it literally 20090421 06:13:57< VurtualRuler98> Secret of Mana is like 3-player zelda with 8 weapons and some magic. 20090421 06:14:00< VurtualRuler98> Well, technically it is. 20090421 06:14:06< Blueblaze> Seiken Densetsu is Final Fantasy technically 20090421 06:14:15< VurtualRuler98> But in reality, it's nothing similar. 20090421 06:14:36< VurtualRuler98> Same people, first game is apparently somehow related, then a few similar enemies. 20090421 06:14:38< Blueblaze> It's no different than how Final Fantasy Chronicles is different from Final Fantasy 20090421 06:14:43< Blueblaze> nor Tactics 20090421 06:14:46< ancestral> Final Fantasy is technically Final Fantasy 20090421 06:14:54< VurtualRuler98> deep. 20090421 06:15:02< Blueblaze> ancestral: Yeah, but Seiken Densetsu is really called Final Fantasy :p 20090421 06:15:08< VurtualRuler98> Gameplay is different, the game feels different, looks different. 20090421 06:15:09< Blueblaze> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiken_Densetsu 20090421 06:15:18< VurtualRuler98> Legend of the holy sword. 20090421 06:15:22< VurtualRuler98> It's now cool to call it that. 20090421 06:15:24< ancestral> Densetsu = Legend 20090421 06:15:39< Blueblaze> Final Fantasy Adventure, known in Europe as Mystic Quest and originally released in Japan as Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden (聖剣伝説 ~ファイナルファンタジー外伝~ ,Seiken Densetsu ~Fainaru Fantajī Gaiden~?) 20090421 06:15:59< VurtualRuler98> The Mana series, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu (???? ?, lit. "Holy Sword Legend") 20090421 06:16:02< Blueblaze> Secret of Mana is a Final Fantasy spinoff 20090421 06:16:15< keb> the characters in the video you linked look like they dont need swords 20090421 06:16:52< VurtualRuler98> Yes, techncially it is. 20090421 06:16:59< VurtualRuler98> Except the games feel nothing alike. 20090421 06:17:01< ancestral> Of course, we're all familiar of another FF Parody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwLrgxtALWs 20090421 06:17:11< VurtualRuler98> I'm not. 20090421 06:17:17< ancestral> Uh oh 20090421 06:17:26< VurtualRuler98> Technically, mario pant was a mario spinoff. 20090421 06:17:26< ancestral> You'll love the link 20090421 06:17:35< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: It still counts in the Mario series :P 20090421 06:17:40< VurtualRuler98> But it's nothing alike. 20090421 06:17:47 * Blueblaze misses Spira 20090421 06:17:48< Blueblaze> well 20090421 06:17:52< Blueblaze> I don't miss the gameplay 20090421 06:18:09 * Blueblaze is developing an urge to play FF10 again 20090421 06:18:22< VurtualRuler98> The only thing similar moreso between FF and SoM, is the concept of attacking things with magic or a medieval weapon, and a creatures. 20090421 06:18:38< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: Which is about as similar as FF7 and its spinoffs 20090421 06:18:43< ancestral> Blueblaze: I like College Saga 20090421 06:18:52< VurtualRuler98> Except they wear the name, and feel similar in a way. 20090421 06:19:12< VurtualRuler98> Every FF game I've ever seen gives off the "Hey look I'm another disturbing final fantasy game, why do I exist?" 20090421 06:19:14< Blueblaze> The compilation of FF7 is quite unique 20090421 06:19:24< VurtualRuler98> Except the very first few, but they're 8-bit. 20090421 06:19:28< ancestral> Everyone's favorite is 7 20090421 06:19:35< VurtualRuler98> 8-bit gives everything a cool face. 20090421 06:19:36 * Blueblaze 's favorite isn't 7 20090421 06:19:38< Blueblaze> anyway 20090421 06:19:48< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: Have you played Dirge of Cerberus 20090421 06:19:49< JimmyJ> I didn't really like 7. 20090421 06:19:50< Blueblaze> ? 20090421 06:19:57< VurtualRuler98> I've played very few FF games. 20090421 06:20:03< VurtualRuler98> Infact, I could lie and you wouldn't know. 20090421 06:20:10< VurtualRuler98> Something is wrong here. 20090421 06:20:11< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: It is a shooter 20090421 06:20:24< Blueblaze> third person shooter :z 20090421 06:20:29< VurtualRuler98> Wait, is it futuristic? 20090421 06:20:31< Blueblaze> And it still counts as Final Fantasy :P 20090421 06:20:33< ancestral> No, it's actually live action! 20090421 06:20:40< ancestral> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwLrgxtALWs 20090421 06:20:40< VurtualRuler98> wait a second 20090421 06:20:47< VurtualRuler98> if it's a third person shooter. 20090421 06:20:55< VurtualRuler98> It isn't turn based is it? 20090421 06:21:00< Blueblaze> Not all Final Fantasy games are in the past 20090421 06:21:04< VurtualRuler98> wat 20090421 06:21:09< ancestral> Then there's FF Tactics… 20090421 06:21:12< Blueblaze> and, it isn't TB 20090421 06:21:22< VurtualRuler98> Does it have challenger appearing? 20090421 06:21:34< VurtualRuler98> in any way? 20090421 06:21:58< Blueblaze> Challenger? 20090421 06:22:05< VurtualRuler98> A challenger appears 20090421 06:22:07< VurtualRuler98> random encounters 20090421 06:22:10< Blueblaze> oh 20090421 06:22:11< VurtualRuler98> Enemies just appearing out of nowhere. 20090421 06:22:31< VurtualRuler98> *pop* "Hello there how may I kill you today I have a hindu accent because this is funnier that way." 20090421 06:22:41< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: Final Fantasy 13 doesn't even have that anymore 20090421 06:22:42< VurtualRuler98> "Oh look I rhymed now I kill you." 20090421 06:22:48< VurtualRuler98> What is wrong with final fantasy. 20090421 06:22:50< Blueblaze> erm 20090421 06:22:52< Blueblaze> 12*** 20090421 06:22:59< Blueblaze> 13 won't either afaik 20090421 06:23:05< VurtualRuler98> No appearances by the magical challenger being? 20090421 06:23:12< Blueblaze> And 11 doesn't have it either :P 20090421 06:23:17< VurtualRuler98> The RNGs evil little son. 20090421 06:23:42< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: Fraid not, he hasn't been in a mainstream FF game since 2001 20090421 06:23:45< VurtualRuler98> As opposed to the L4D AI director, that has failed and wishes it was as good as its brother. 20090421 06:23:46< ancestral> So I think someone should redo the art for the chocobone and make it look chocolate-colored 20090421 06:23:54< VurtualRuler98> Wait, chocobone? 20090421 06:23:55< VurtualRuler98> What. 20090421 06:23:55< ancestral> Because I wanna eat it 20090421 06:24:02< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: That's how this conversation started 20090421 06:24:07< VurtualRuler98> Skeletal chocolate chocobos? 20090421 06:24:13< VurtualRuler98> WHY DID NOONE TELL ME THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED. 20090421 06:24:13< Blueblaze> Since, chocobone = paradoy of chocobo 20090421 06:24:15< VurtualRuler98> I want one. 20090421 06:24:21< Blueblaze> :a 20090421 06:24:22< keb> mmm chocolate 20090421 06:24:33< ancestral> Mmmm, the land of chocolate: http://www.hulu.com/watch/33844/the-simpsons-the-land-of-chocolate 20090421 06:25:03< Blueblaze> ancestral: Wow college saga is 41 minutes long 20090421 06:25:06< VurtualRuler98> I like having my arteries. 20090421 06:25:12< ancestral> Blueblaze: Dude you will love it 20090421 06:25:21< keb> get low fat high cocoa chocolate 20090421 06:25:28< Blueblaze> o 20090421 06:25:29< Blueblaze> I like it 20090421 06:25:34< VurtualRuler98> I'd rather not replace them with coca transportation units. 20090421 06:25:38< ancestral> I can't believe you haven't seen it yet?!?! 20090421 06:25:59< Blueblaze> rorfl 20090421 06:26:01< VurtualRuler98> You people properly apply the "final fantasy is the only game I play" song. 20090421 06:26:04< Blueblaze> this is awesome 20090421 06:26:07< ancestral> Hahaha 20090421 06:26:08< Blueblaze> I love the "NPC"s 20090421 06:26:17< VurtualRuler98> WHY CAN'T ANYONE LIKE THE GOOD GAMES 20090421 06:26:23< ancestral> Like? 20090421 06:26:28< VurtualRuler98> Star Wars: Force Commander and Soul Reaver 2. 20090421 06:26:39< VurtualRuler98> Secret of Mana doesn't fit because people like it. 20090421 06:27:00< VurtualRuler98> only a few over ten people play force commander anymore. 20090421 06:27:10< VurtualRuler98> Which uses, heh, MSN gaming zone. 20090421 06:27:21< VurtualRuler98> I wonder if I can connect without any account. 20090421 06:28:25< VurtualRuler98> a not found page 20090421 06:28:50< Blueblaze> SoM is considered one of the best RPGs of all time 20090421 06:29:19< keb> i liked gaming zone before it was msn owned 20090421 06:29:49< VurtualRuler98> I really wish I could find the other players. 20090421 06:30:00< VurtualRuler98> 16-user tournament to find out who is really the best in the world. 20090421 06:30:26< ancestral> Fallout, Chrono Trigger, there are many good rpgs 20090421 06:30:55< VurtualRuler98> Secret of Mana still wins. 20090421 06:31:14< ancestral> It does have some early 3D graphics 20090421 06:31:23< ancestral> sorta 3D 20090421 06:31:55< ancestral> keb: I like a lotta things before it was MS owned 20090421 06:34:34< VurtualRuler98> One thing we do like after MS owned it 20090421 06:34:36< VurtualRuler98> uh... 20090421 06:34:58< VurtualRuler98> ... 20090421 06:35:03< VurtualRuler98> help? 20090421 06:35:08< ancestral> srsly 20090421 06:35:09< ancestral> Halo 20090421 06:35:15< VurtualRuler98> no 20090421 06:35:18< VurtualRuler98> Maybe digg? 20090421 06:35:38< VurtualRuler98> ...it got more popular then. 20090421 06:35:51< ancestral> Bungie made this game before MS came in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oni_(video_game) it fell a little short but had they had a little more time it could have been really good 20090421 06:36:48< VurtualRuler98> I learned something today. 20090421 06:36:55< VurtualRuler98> 007: Nightfire was on goldsrc. 20090421 06:58:01-!- JW1 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