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20090504 00:30:10< CIA-30> jetryl * r35441 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/drakes/burner.png: Fixed stray pixels on burner portrait.
20090504 00:30:57< CIA-30> jetryl * r35442 /branches/1.6/data/core/images/portraits/drakes/burner.png: Fixed stray pixels on burner portrait.
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20090504 00:33:33< Jetrel> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13417
20090504 00:34:20< Jetrel> What are the unit WML implications of correcting the "black portraits in the base directory, and transparent-backgrounded portraits in the transparent directory"?
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20090504 00:35:19< Jetrel> e.g if I correct that, will I need to also modify something about the unit WML in order to prevent the game from suddenly having a black-backgrounded portrait in dialogue?
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20090504 03:01:12< Sapient> Jetrel: not sure if I understand the question, but it is hard-coded into the game to check the /transparent folder, IIRC
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20090504 03:11:11< Sapient> Yes, it is hard-coded in std::string get_image(const vconfig& cfg, unit_map::iterator speaker) in game_events.cpp
20090504 03:11:18< Jetrel> hm
20090504 03:11:48< Sapient> for more explanation you'd have to ask Mordante a.k.a. SkeletonCrew
20090504 03:12:19< Jetrel> hm
20090504 03:12:58< Jetrel> Yeah, I got a bug posted regarding the drake images
20090504 03:13:16< Sapient> so why do you need to change the folders?
20090504 03:13:33< Sapient> 		// At the moment we use a hack if the image in portrait has
20090504 03:13:33< Sapient> 		// an image with the same name in the directory transparent
20090504 03:13:33< Sapient> 		// that image is used.
20090504 03:13:52< Sapient> (those are the comments)
20090504 03:13:56< Jetrel> It was that they should have transparent versions of the portraits under /portraits/drakes/transparent, and black-backgrnd versions in portraits/drakes/
20090504 03:14:15< Jetrel> Right now they just have transparent versions, and they're not in the transparent folder.
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20090504 03:15:39< Sapient> if you move the files in transparent subfolder and have no black-bg version, then it will probably break some things
20090504 03:16:01< Jetrel> yeah - I can make black background versions really quickly.
20090504 03:16:25< Sapient> ok, then in that case it wouldn't break anything
20090504 03:16:30< Jetrel> The only thing I wanted to know was if something would break if I put these in the "normal" configuration.
20090504 03:16:42< Jetrel> e.g. if something had been hacked to make these work as they are.
20090504 03:16:50< Sapient> no, thanks to the "hack" it will automatically find them
20090504 03:16:56< Jetrel> cool
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20090504 04:18:34< Sapient> hi
20090504 04:18:39< Sapient> cya later, have fun.
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20090504 06:00:30< CIA-30> jetryl * r35443 /trunk/data/core/images/portraits/drakes/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Made separate transparent+opaque portraits for the drakes.
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20090504 06:02:55< CIA-30> jetryl * r35444 /branches/1.6/data/core/images/portraits/drakes/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Made separate transparent+opaque portraits for the drakes.
20090504 06:09:13-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: stringfreeze for branches/1.6, 1.6.2 planned for next Sunday (10 May) | 60 bugs, 236 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090504 06:55:44< Espreon> ****! There's a confirmed case of swine flu in PA!
20090504 06:56:00< Espreon> And even worse! The infectee lives in the same county as I!
20090504 06:56:16< Espreon> Whoops......wrong channel...
20090504 06:56:31< Espreon> Sorry...
20090504 06:56:46< Blueblaze> Well, there is a confirmed death in my city, big deal :P
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20090504 07:06:13< GTG> Does anybody know how to edit Wesnoth Campaigns?
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20090504 07:07:31< Espreon> GTG: All you need is a text editor.
20090504 07:07:45< GTG> how do I do it?
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20090504 07:08:11< Espreon> You open the text editor, and you open the desired campaign's files.
20090504 07:12:31< Blueblaze> GTG: Wesnoth campaigns are created through a custom language for Wesnoth called WML. You can find more information on creating and modifying campaigns here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Create
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20090504 07:49:30< GTG> where ar the campian files though, the campaign folder is empty
20090504 07:53:49< GTG> where can I find the campaign files? all of the folders are empty?
20090504 08:00:59< GTG> does anybody know?
20090504 08:01:03< GTG> please?
20090504 08:01:41< GTG> I'm giong to have to go soon
20090504 08:02:18< GTG> so the "devs" don't know where their own campaign files are?
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20090504 08:32:32< Blueblaze> right, like that's gonna get you help
20090504 08:34:04< Espreon> Heh...
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20090504 09:44:29< Ivanovic> moin
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20090504 09:52:22< johani> Tigge: you around?
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20090504 10:03:15< Tigge> johani: japp
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20090504 11:33:33< Crab_> hi
20090504 11:33:41< benetnash> hi
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20090504 13:05:31< Rhonda> What was the reason to start with ~/.wesnoth<version> instead of sticking to ~/.wesnoth?
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20090504 13:09:33< Soliton> multiple wesnoth installs probably. there is also the possibility that old preferences might mess things up though i don't think there is such a case so far.
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20090504 13:31:32< Soliton> zookeeper: does anyone ever read the mainline campaign feedback forum?
20090504 13:33:55< Soliton> it's unfortunate when detailed suggestions as this one (http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=348036#p348036) get never looked at.
20090504 13:39:52< zookeeper> Soliton, i always read everything there, but as you've probably noticed i've been very inactive lately so i haven't gotten around to doing any real campaign maintenance
20090504 13:40:33< Soliton> oh, cool.
20090504 13:41:04< Soliton> well, the first part anyway. ;-)
20090504 13:41:52< Soliton> i think especially dialog tweaks is something we could push on the writers forum to evaluate and make precise proposals for changes.
20090504 13:42:10< zookeeper> yeah, there's a long list of scenario feedback there from various campaigns that i've taken mental note of and will probably get around to at some point
20090504 13:42:19< zookeeper> whether it's sooner or later, can't really tell right now
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20090504 13:45:27< euschn> hi
20090504 13:45:57< YogiHH> hi euschn
20090504 14:09:34< Shadow_Master> ho
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20090504 18:25:41< Ivanovic> hi
20090504 18:27:27< Sapient> hi
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20090504 18:31:07< Baufo> hey everyone
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20090504 19:00:10< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35445 /trunk/po/wesnoth-l/zh_TW.po: updated Chinese (Traditional) translation
20090504 19:00:16< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35446 /branches/1.6/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-l/zh_TW.po): updated Chinese (Traditional) translation
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20090504 19:18:23< mordante> hi
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20090504 19:20:22< Ivanovic> hi mordante
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20090504 19:20:35< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20090504 19:44:15< mordante> Shadow_Master, LOW_MEM compiles again, thanks
20090504 19:44:37< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35447 /trunk/po/wesnoth-aoi/de.po: updated German translation (fixed bug #13471)
20090504 19:44:40< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35448 /branches/1.6/po/wesnoth-aoi/de.po: updated German translation (fixed bug #13471)
20090504 19:59:57< Ivanovic> wesbot: topic
20090504 20:00:00-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: stringfreeze for branches/1.6, 1.6.2 planned for next Sunday (10 May) | 60 bugs, 236 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090504 20:05:18< mordante> Ivanovic, those were 4 easy bugs to fix ;-)
20090504 20:05:46< Ivanovic> jupp
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20090504 20:32:09< silene> hi
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20090504 20:32:30< Crab_> hi silene
20090504 20:33:11< mordante> hi silene 
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20090504 20:57:11< ardesh> hey
20090504 20:57:27< ardesh> question: is there an easy way to import all addons into wesnoth?
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20090504 20:59:43< zookeeper> no
20090504 20:59:48< zookeeper> and i really doubt you'd want to, either.
20090504 21:00:16< ardesh> mhhh y?
20090504 21:00:25< mordante> well there's a tool to download addons, so a small shellscript could do the trick
20090504 21:00:47< ardesh> ya
20090504 21:00:49< ardesh> i read that
20090504 21:00:58< ardesh> but apparently thats from around 2006
20090504 21:00:58< zookeeper> ah yes, that's true
20090504 21:01:18< zookeeper> ardesh, well basically because there's a lot of crappy add-ons and also because starting wesnoth with all of them would take ages
20090504 21:01:31< zookeeper> and probably consume a lot of memory and so on.
20090504 21:01:39< ardesh> mhh doesnt matter ;)
20090504 21:01:42< mordante> that tool still exists
20090504 21:01:58< ardesh> and its "nicer" to have em all.. test em and then delete em if theyre crap
20090504 21:02:35< zookeeper> well, if that's the way you like it then fine
20090504 21:02:43< ardesh> yes ;)
20090504 21:03:23< ardesh> in addition its "unhandy" to join the mp server and check there what u need and go back
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20090504 21:34:42< mordante> I'm off bye
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20090504 21:44:27< Soliton> ardesh: you're looking for data/tools/wesnoth_addon_manager. (wesnoth_addon_manager --download='.*' -c ~/.wesnoth1.6/data/campaigns)
20090504 21:45:57< ardesh> Soliton, ah thy.. i ll check this out later
20090504 21:47:00< zookeeper> fendrin, have a look at the #wesnoth log of today, [bjoern] was complaining of some gold stuff in LoW
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20090504 21:57:22< fendrin> zookeeper: thank you
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20090504 23:35:32< Soliton> anyone know why we suggest to paste stderr.txt to a pastebin in the technical support forum instead of just attaching it to the post?
20090504 23:35:51< Soliton> or are attachment disabled there?
20090504 23:39:39< zookeeper> no idea.
20090504 23:41:06< Soliton> btw, i've changed the post to say --log-info=all because debug just has a lot of crap that you hardly see what's going on and make for huge files people can't upload anywhere.
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20090504 23:45:28< YogiHH> Soliton: The pastebin might have been suggested because people were not uploading files but pasting stderr.txt into their posts.
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20090504 23:46:14< loonycyborg> IIRC the forum was rather picky about file extensions once..
20090504 23:46:33< Soliton> txt is accepted though.
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20090504 23:52:28< Soliton> YogiHH: maybe split the skip replay stuff off from here: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=355485#p355485
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