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20090514 00:01:44< Crab_> night boucman
20090514 00:02:24< Yermandu> :( not work for me i recieve msg > error config: File not found '~campaigns/SurvivalXtreme/maps/LoadTest.map'
20090514 00:02:57< Yermandu> more in http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m608e6177
20090514 00:03:23< mordante> I'm off night
20090514 00:03:27< alink> Crab_: yeah but i mean if we call less often this movement_cost, we will also call less often the get_state. But indeed will not help much simple pathfinding query (maybe a bit more in maze; though)
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20090514 00:03:35< alink> gn mordante
20090514 00:03:58< Soliton> Yermandu: umm, when i said userdata i meant userdata and not messing with the main game dirs.
20090514 00:04:04< alink> Crab_: and i am in favor to cache status somehow
20090514 00:04:29< Soliton> Yermandu: so for you that is probably ~/.wesnoth1.6/data/campaigns/.
20090514 00:04:36< Crab_> alink: yes, we can cache 'if this unit is slowed' to a simple boolean variable...
20090514 00:05:10< alink> Crab_: get_state("hidden") could also use it
20090514 00:06:11< alink> we ask it often for visibility, but there is maybe a global cache for that, not sure how currently usefull it is
20090514 00:06:46< alink> yeah it is the invisibility_cache_
20090514 00:08:04< alink> I guess it depend how much AI cheat about invisibility
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20090514 00:11:14< alink> brb
20090514 00:14:34< Crab_> while loading start-of-scenario save (trunk), got error : 'The error message is : Mandatory widget 'left_side' hasn't been defined. When reporting the bug please include the following error message : Condition 'button_status.button' failed at src/gui/dialogs/message.cpp:48 in function 'init_button''
20090514 00:21:43< Crab_> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13521 ^^
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20090514 00:24:52< Crab_> got the same error when starting a new campaign...
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20090514 00:30:34< Crab_> I guess that  r35622 is the reason...
20090514 00:46:40< Crab_> yes, it is....
20090514 00:47:10< CIA-30> crab * r35623 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Reverted r35622, as it caused Bug #13521
20090514 00:47:32< Crab_> mordante ^^
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20090514 05:56:29< ancestral> Is Xdelta used only for source files?
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20090514 09:27:37< Ivanovic> moin
20090514 09:28:58< corn> hi
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20090514 10:05:30< Rhonda> mordante: I think it's that enabled-by-default strict-compilation autoconf switch.
20090514 10:09:19< loonycyborg> Rhonda: Those warnings are weird. They seem to refer to libstdc++ internals.
20090514 10:09:44< loonycyborg> But --disable-strict-compilation will probably make them non-fatal.
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20090514 10:11:09< loonycyborg> (I assume you're referring to this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=528587 ) :P
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20090514 10:15:23< Rhonda> loonycyborg: Yes. And be sure that it's about gcc-4.4, not 4.3 or older, and with enabled strict-compilation.
20090514 10:25:41< Soliton> Rhonda: mordante mentioned that he uses the same compiler and he surely uses strict compilation as well.
20090514 10:26:03< Rhonda> Ah, yes, mentioned 4.4
20090514 10:26:22< Rhonda> I propably should try in a chroot. But not on my poor powerbook.
20090514 10:29:14< loonycyborg> Those warnings totally don't make sense to me. They say that some members of std::vector class may be used uninitialized in function preferences::manager::manager()
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20090514 10:31:40< loonycyborg> I'm not even sure that this warning can be issued for data members..
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20090514 11:05:21< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35625 /branches/1.6/po/ (wesnoth-editor/zh_TW.po wesnoth-utbs/ru.po): updated Chinese (Traditional) and Russian translation
20090514 11:05:22< CIA-30> ivanovic * r35626 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-editor/zh_TW.po wesnoth-utbs/ru.po): updated Chinese (Traditional) and Russian translation
20090514 11:05:27< Ivanovic> off to uni, cu
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20090514 11:13:19< zookeeper> sigh, why is creating custom syntax highlight rules for every single code editor so darn complicated to do.
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20090514 11:26:27< Soliton> you suck at regular expressions or the syntax you're describing just is complicated?
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20090514 11:30:31< zookeeper> correction: for any single code editor i'd otherwise prefer to use. and just the fact that the process of making a completely custom highlighter is complicated or seemingly rather undocumented.
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20090514 11:32:57< zookeeper> (99% of all available help about syntax highlight is about how the editor supports this or that syntax out-of-the-box, whereas i couldn't care less about that as long as i can relatively easily specify my own highlight rules)
20090514 11:42:21< Rhonda> Do you need one done for vim?
20090514 11:43:44< zookeeper> no, i'm trying out editors like pspad, scite etc. anyways, i'll figure it out sooner or later.
20090514 11:57:58 * Rhonda laughs at the non-sensible example from https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gaming/msg00037.html :)
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20090514 12:45:55< mordante> Rhonda, loonycyborg I just recompiled wesnoth with gcc 4.4 again and still works and I also expect a gcc bug, but haven't found a report yet
20090514 12:46:22< loonycyborg> Yes. A gcc bug sounds likely to me.
20090514 12:46:38< mordante> crab_ are you sure you updated _both_ data and src directory? I tested the code before committing it and I had no trouble
20090514 12:50:14< mordante> crab_ nevermind I found it
20090514 12:50:18< mordante> afk
20090514 12:59:32< Rhonda> mordante: I try to invite tbm to here - it though would be good if you maybe could attach your build log (maybe just the same section as mentioned) to the bugreport?
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20090514 13:23:40< tbm> regarding the gcc 4.4 issue I reported: I don't have any special insights about it but I can reproduce it... so if there' something you want me totest, let me know
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20090514 13:26:17< loonycyborg> tbm: AFAIK gcc  4.4 breaks backward compatibility so all C++ apps should be recompiled when upgrading. Correct?
20090514 13:28:30< tbm> loonycyborg: I haven't heard that
20090514 13:31:18< mordante> tbm, the odd thing about the report is that the bug seems to be in the implementation of std::vector
20090514 13:32:46< tbm> mordante: I can show the error message to a gcc developer, but it'll be a few hours until he's awake
20090514 13:33:32< loonycyborg> Yes. I suppose sharing that with a gcc developer is a good idea.
20090514 13:33:50< mordante> I think so too
20090514 13:34:00< mordante> I'm also rather afk at the moment
20090514 13:34:02< tbm> ok
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20090514 13:40:15< mordante> btw loonycyborg what do you use to build wesnoth on Windows?
20090514 13:40:41< loonycyborg> What gcc version? 3.4.5
20090514 13:41:17< mordante> what build system, I need to build and redistribute something on Windows so I wonder what the best build system there is
20090514 13:41:40< loonycyborg> I'm using scons.
20090514 13:44:51< mordante> and which compiler toolchain mingw?
20090514 13:45:06< loonycyborg> Basically I've made 'windows-installer' alias which causes wesnoth binaries to be built, nsis script to be generated and makensisw run.
20090514 13:45:33< loonycyborg> 'which compiler toolchain mingw'? :/
20090514 13:49:16< loonycyborg> scons can be made to work with msvc too, but I can't be bothered to stay under windows long enough to install msvc and make everything work.
20090514 13:53:22< mordante> but do you build Wesnoth on Windows or Linux?
20090514 13:54:18< loonycyborg> I still build wesnoth releases on windows, but it's possible to build cross-compiled releases too :P
20090514 13:54:42< loonycyborg> since NSIS is cross-platform
20090514 13:59:04< CIA-30> silene * r35627 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: Typo (???)
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20090514 14:28:49< mordante> tbm, loonybot Rhonda FYI I tried again with gcc-4.4 with autotools and I can reproduce the problem, guess the cmake script doesn't work as expected
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20090514 14:31:07< Crab_> hi
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20090514 14:32:25< mordante> hi Crab_ 
20090514 14:32:35< Crab_> hi mordante
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20090514 18:45:16< mordante> servus
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20090514 18:54:15< Soliton> well, looks like one does not need an account password...
20090514 18:55:14< Crab_> Soliton: any information about "why it has gone offline" ?
20090514 18:55:22< Soliton> the support guy tells me the server was actually overloaded and not down.
20090514 18:55:50< Soliton> We apologize that the server has gone down so frequently, but at the
20090514 18:55:50< Soliton> time it was reported as being down it actually seemed overloaded.
20090514 18:55:50< Soliton> Diagnosing the cause of an apparently overloaded server is outside the
20090514 18:55:50< Soliton> scope of support we provide with dedicated servers.  If you believe a
20090514 18:55:50< Soliton> hardware issue is to blame, we can schedule a time to take the server
20090514 18:55:54< Soliton> off line for hardware diagnostics.
20090514 18:56:21< Soliton> no hint in the logs as to what has happened.
20090514 18:57:09< Sirp> Soliton: well do we have sar on it? Was the CPU usage high?
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20090514 19:00:36< Soliton> Sirp: yes, it's installed.
20090514 19:01:12< Soliton> Sirp: doesn't look suspicious to me before the reboot.
20090514 19:01:13< Sirp> when did it go down, and for how long?
20090514 19:01:20< Sirp> so it rebooted?
20090514 19:01:27< Soliton> well, i requested a reboot.
20090514 19:01:29< Sirp> did we ask for it to be rebooted or did it just happen?
20090514 19:01:29< Sirp> ahhh
20090514 19:01:30< Sirp> okay
20090514 19:01:43< Soliton> you can see from sar as well that there was a while of nothing and then a reboot.
20090514 19:01:56< Sirp> okay
20090514 19:02:03< Sirp> did we run out of memory and start swapping?
20090514 19:02:21< Soliton> http://nopaste.com/p/aWmwX3Muib
20090514 19:02:43< Sirp> umm it looks like iowait was quite high and is still quite high
20090514 19:07:53< Soliton> well, it is higher now then it was before the outage.
20090514 19:08:11< Sirp> yes
20090514 19:08:48< Soliton> Sirp: know of a tool to nicely visualize sar logs?
20090514 19:11:05< Soliton> i'll try ksar.
20090514 19:15:02< Sirp> Soliton: I use eyes + brain. ;)
20090514 19:16:47< Soliton> right, me too. i just try to minimize resource usage. :-)
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20090514 19:36:20< loonycyborg> I've installed gcc 4.4.0 . Compiling wesnoth totally fails with boost 1.35 and there are annoying warnings from within boost headers with 1.38
20090514 19:36:45< loonycyborg> mordante: Which boost version are you using?
20090514 19:36:55< mordante> 1.38
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20090514 19:37:26< mordante> and I also had boost header problems in another project so still use 4.3 there
20090514 19:38:01< mordante> well test with 1.39 once it moves to Debian testing
20090514 19:38:15< loonycyborg> Anyway, I'm getting debian bug 528587 with scons :)
20090514 19:39:50< mordante> I also got it with autotools seems something was wrong with my cmake settings, didn't have time to look further into the cmake problems
20090514 19:40:27< loonycyborg> Boost 1.39 is still warningy :(
20090514 19:41:13< mordante> :-( guess we'll have to wait three more months and hope 1.40 is better
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20090514 20:09:19< CIA-30> mordante * r35628 /trunk/src/gui/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20090514 20:09:19< CIA-30> Let twml_message inherit from tdialog.
20090514 20:09:19< CIA-30> The inheritance of tmessage doesn't really work since the dialogs are too
20090514 20:09:19< CIA-30> different. Bug 13521 was caused by this inheritance.
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20090514 20:14:03< Crab_> mordante: thanks. note, that it is better to write "Bug #13521", for that commit it'll be picked up by gna bugtracker.
20090514 20:14:50< mordante> Crab_, yes I thought I did, but seems I missed the # :-/
20090514 20:15:26< mordante> I'm retesting my original code again, before I commit it, I thought I already removed that inheritance before
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20090514 20:21:13< mordante> Crab_, as expected r35628 solves the problem :-) (now waiting for CIA to show it ;-) )
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20090514 20:21:54< Crab_> what should CIA show ? It has already spoken about r35628
20090514 20:22:22< mordante> that I reverted your reverty
20090514 20:22:25< mordante> revert*
20090514 20:22:30< Crab_> ah )
20090514 20:22:56< mordante> I still wanted that code in ;-)
20090514 20:23:16< Crab_> I thought that r35628 included that )
20090514 20:23:30< mordante> no I prefer to do one change per commit
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20090514 20:34:24< Crab_> boucman: 9 minutes 30 seconds after refactoring get_state("slowed")
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20090514 20:40:40< silene> hi
20090514 20:40:46< Crab_> hi silene
20090514 20:41:09< CIA-30> mordante * r35629 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20090514 20:41:09< CIA-30> Reverted r35623, the code now works due to r35628.
20090514 20:41:09< CIA-30> Tested and bug #13521 no longer occurs with this code.
20090514 20:41:19< silene> alink: what bug does your patch to A* fix?
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20090514 20:46:07< silene> loonycyborg, mordante: fwiw, gcc 4.5 works just fine for compiling wesnoth
20090514 20:47:24< Rhonda> silene: With a setup that failed for you with gcc 4.4?
20090514 20:48:01< Rhonda> i.e., mordante said he needed to use the autotools toolchain for compilation to be able to reproduce it with 4.4
20090514 20:48:13< alink> silene: not sure that it created a visible bug, (only happened during the first A* search so usually the first mouse move on the adjacent hex of the selected unit)
20090514 20:49:58< mordante> Rhonda, it should also be reproducible with cmake, but guess there are some issues with our cmake setup
20090514 20:50:02< silene> Rhonda: i have not used gcc 4.4; and i use autotools
20090514 20:50:29< alink> silene : but i preferred fixing this unexpected special behavior 
20090514 20:50:54< silene> alink: yes, but i would like to know what the bug is, because it may well exist for pathfind.cpp too
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20090514 20:51:34< alink> a simpler fix nodes.was to move resize(width * height) before incrementing search_counter btw
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20090514 20:52:43< Rhonda> silene: Would be sweet if you could try with gcc 4.4. If it fails there tbm might be interested in your findings. :)
20090514 20:53:26< alink> silene resize use the default ctor (only place where it's used AFAIK) but since search_counter was incremented before and this ctor used it, it incorrectly created nodes not outdated 
20090514 20:54:15< silene> alink: sure, but why are these uptodate nodes an issue? it worked for cjhopman, so what broke since then?
20090514 20:54:53< alink> silene checking the commit
20090514 20:55:29< alink> (btw since it happened only for the first query, i doubt that a bug, if any, could be spotted)
20090514 20:56:39< mordante> tbm, did you already speak with your gcc contact person?
20090514 20:57:09< silene> alink: it would have been spotted, because cjhopman was doing a full clear before each search, so the bug would have happened systematically
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20090514 21:00:55< alink> silene I believe that before r35163 this behavior was irrelevant 
20090514 21:01:34< tbm> mordante: haven't been able to reach him yet
20090514 21:01:41< alink> because uninitialized next.g was 1e25 too
20090514 21:01:45< mordante> ok
20090514 21:09:32< loonycyborg> silene: did you disable strict compilation in gcc 4.5? What boost version did you use?
20090514 21:10:11< silene> loonycyborg: no i didn't disable it; and i use the ubuntu package for boost, that is 1.37
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20090514 21:14:44< alink> silene: "it worked for cjhopman, so what broke since then?", seems that nothing was changed by the introduction of search_counter, but i wanted to remove the fact that the 'in' field had a special behavior at the first run only (I want to use it more)
20090514 21:15:49< alink> and search_counter was not initialized so i preferred do it, and use that also for node()
20090514 21:17:17< alink> I was also a bit annoyed by the fact that the code assumed that I knew that the max int was odd, but that's just me :)
20090514 21:18:39< alink> so basically, it was mostly cleaning, maybe not really fixing a ' real bug'
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20090514 21:26:21< alink> ah indeed we use the same search_counter trick in pathfind.cpp, I will check that too, and possibly do the same clarification there
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20090514 21:44:03< mordante> ilor, around?
20090514 21:44:12< ilor> mordante yes
20090514 21:44:23< mordante> ilor, how are things going?
20090514 21:44:41< ilor> I have some time now and I'm looking at the server code
20090514 21:45:03< ilor> wondering how exactly I should start with it
20090514 21:45:15< mordante> very busy with school at the moment?
20090514 21:46:00< ilor> somewhat busy, bearable so far
20090514 21:47:25< mordante> what do you mean with "wondering how exactly I should start with it"?
20090514 21:47:55< ilor> I'm starting the "game"/room server-side bit
20090514 21:49:10< ilor> and I need to figure some stuff out before I start coding
20090514 21:53:58< mordante> are you stuck or just figuring things out?
20090514 21:54:15< ilor> not stuck yet ;)
20090514 21:54:25< mordante> good :-)
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20090514 22:11:22< ilor_> mordante: how do you feel about making a player_group class as a base for the game and lobby?
20090514 22:13:12< mordante> what do you want to put in this player_group class?
20090514 22:13:47< ilor_> generally code that takes a binch of players and deals with them together
20090514 22:14:45< ilor_> both games and channels are groups of players with more info e.g. bans
20090514 22:19:21< mordante> not really sure how this will affect SP classes
20090514 22:21:28< YogiHH> hmm, wesnoth dies weird these days...
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20090514 22:22:11< ilor_> mordante: I'm talking about the server-side "game" class used to store info about ongoing games
20090514 22:22:14< YogiHH> Crab_: Wesnoth just crashed for me (1.6), but it's not a normal crash, the window just closes and that's it, no error message or anything
20090514 22:22:55< YogiHH> Crab_: The last thing i found in the stderr.txt was "run ai formula". Does that ring a bell?
20090514 22:23:11< Crab_> can you reproduce ?
20090514 22:23:43< Crab_> and, on which scenario it happened ?
20090514 22:24:01< mordante> ilor_, ok that clears my confusion ;-)
20090514 22:24:27< ilor_> mordante: ;) I also plan to rename the game class to avoid that 
20090514 22:24:56< YogiHH> Crab_: no, it happens on mp from time to time. First time was "A New Land" (yesterday), today it was on a new user defined map.
20090514 22:25:44< Crab_> make a habit of running Wesnoth under debugger all the time :) 1 stacktrace should be enough to find-out-and-fix
20090514 22:26:15< Crab_> I'll take a look at the code, anyway
20090514 22:26:18< mordante> that might be a good idea, having two game classes is confusing
20090514 22:26:40< YogiHH> Crab_: Hmm, i'd have to get a svn checkout for 1.6, then. Do you think --log-info is enough?
20090514 22:27:06< Crab_> logging is not that important. stacktrace is better :)
20090514 22:27:21< YogiHH> *sigh*, ok :-)
20090514 22:28:42< Crab_> YogiHH: note that "run ai formula" is not used by the ai in 1.6
20090514 22:29:21< YogiHH> but by which code, then?
20090514 22:29:22< Crab_> it is only run when a user presses "f" and types an ai formula, which is then executed
20090514 22:29:29< YogiHH> ah
20090514 22:30:00< YogiHH> does that user have to be me or can other clients torpedo my wesnoth, too?
20090514 22:30:25< Crab_> it's only local
20090514 22:31:04< YogiHH> hmm, then maybe i crashed myself...
20090514 22:31:40< Crab_> press f -> type something in the box which segfauls formula parser -> press enter -> boom
20090514 22:31:55< Crab_> maybe something like this..
20090514 22:32:35< YogiHH> aaah, what happened to the good old "shit in, shit out" rule (in contrast to "shit in, crash") ;-)
20090514 22:33:50< loonycyborg> s/shit/garbage :P
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20090514 22:43:18< mordante> ilor_, I'm about to leave, will think about it a bit longer
20090514 22:43:36< ilor_> sure, hope to catch you tomorrow
20090514 22:43:50< mordante> I expect to be around tomorrow evening
20090514 22:44:15< ilor_> I might be out early evening, but should be online around 10pm
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20090514 22:45:16< mordante> not sure whether I'm watching TV around that time, but then I should be back around 23:15
20090514 22:45:25< ilor_> ok ;)
20090514 22:45:38< mordante> night
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