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20090503 00:00:48< noy> WishMasterNND: what do you want?
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20090503 00:06:30< zooko> Hey, my Wesnoth v1.6.1 server says that it refuses to serve v1.6.1 clients -- it will only serve v1.6 clients.
20090503 00:06:32< zooko> Is this a known bug?
20090503 00:07:06< zooko> Hm.
20090503 00:07:07< zooko> No...
20090503 00:07:24< zooko> My mitake.
20090503 00:07:25< zooko> ^s
20090503 00:08:50< WishMasterNND> noy: Well, only a very small interview.
20090503 00:09:06< noy> Well I should be able to suffice I guess...
20090503 00:09:22< noy> I can defer you to people with more technical expertise if need be
20090503 00:09:36< noy> what is this for?
20090503 00:10:51< WishMasterNND> noy: Wesnoth will be Game of the month at German youth magazine dein.gs and I'd like to have some quotations by a developer.
20090503 00:11:49< noy> Sure, I'd be happy to help.
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20090503 01:23:56< Sir_Konrad> Hey, I finished Heir to the Throne a few days ago and the ending was LAME!!! Do I find out about Konrad and Li'sar later on?
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20090503 01:33:43< Soliton> you find out about konrad and li'sar in the epilog of the heir to the throne.
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20090503 02:03:18< Sir_Konrad> Soliton, there was none.
20090503 02:03:45< Sir_Konrad> It just said that "Konrad strikes a killing blow" and then "The End".
20090503 02:04:18< Elvish_Pillager> That sounds like a bug.
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20090503 02:08:35< Soliton> Sir_Konrad: you were watching the replay and did not advance to the epilog.
20090503 02:09:05< Sir_Konrad> Soliton, I found out that if I "save game" from the replay, I can reload it in game mode. :D
20090503 02:09:13< Sir_Konrad> I tried it and it didn't work.
20090503 02:09:26< Sir_Konrad> **maybe I should play the level...**
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20090503 02:10:06< Soliton> well, whatever you did you did not get to the epilog.
20090503 02:10:51< Sir_Konrad> Soliton, think it would work if I started the level from the beginning?
20090503 02:12:00< happygrue> Sir_Konrad: the text is in the scenario files, you could open it and read it
20090503 02:12:07< happygrue> if your save doesn't work
20090503 02:12:21< keb> thats cheating ;)
20090503 02:12:28< happygrue> not if he has beaten it...
20090503 02:12:53< happygrue> though it won't have the same ambiance
20090503 02:12:55< Sir_Konrad> keb, it was cheating. :P
20090503 02:13:06< happygrue> oh
20090503 02:13:21< Sir_Konrad> happygrue, how can I find the scenario files on a Linux install?
20090503 02:13:26< happygrue> you are cheating and then complaining about it not working?
20090503 02:14:02< keb> i think they are all .wml files
20090503 02:14:23< Sir_Konrad> happygrue, I didn't know if it was a because I was cheating or because of a bug.
20090503 02:14:31< happygrue> hehe
20090503 02:14:41< happygrue> what is the .wml file you speak of?
20090503 02:14:45< happygrue> *this
20090503 02:14:50< Sir_Konrad> happygrue, I took a replay and used the save game function and reloaded it. It came up in game mode and I won through there.
20090503 02:14:58< happygrue> hehe
20090503 02:15:10< happygrue> dare I say that "fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony"...
20090503 02:15:18< Sir_Konrad> happygrue, whichever the epilouge is in
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20090503 02:15:24< happygrue> perhaps you should go beat the level... ;)
20090503 02:15:35< keb> try /usr/local/share/wesnoth/data/campaigns/
20090503 02:15:51< Sir_Konrad> happygrue, that's probably what I'll do. ;)
20090503 02:16:03< keb> .cfg file
20090503 02:16:23< Sir_Konrad> I'm trying to write the whole story of "Heir to the Throne" as a fanfiction.
20090503 02:16:34< Sir_Konrad> keb, I'll try it.
20090503 02:16:39< keb> cool
20090503 02:17:28< keb> how will you do a fanfic with alternate endings
20090503 02:17:56< Sir_Konrad> keb, I don't want an alternate ending. I want to do the real thing. :)
20090503 02:18:08< Sir_Konrad> I thought I was going to have to write my own for a minute there.
20090503 02:18:49< keb> well let us make haste to the Isle of Wesmere, in that case
20090503 02:18:57< keb> do you have a ship
20090503 02:19:38< Sir_Konrad> keb, ?
20090503 02:19:51< keb> you mean wesnoth isnt real?
20090503 02:20:22< keb> some weekends it sure feels like i live there
20090503 02:21:09< Sir_Konrad> keb I live in it everyday. ;)
20090503 02:21:12< keb> the alternate endings could be dire prophecies of dooom
20090503 02:21:33< keb> ah thats why you have a title and i am a mere peon
20090503 02:22:54< Sir_Konrad> keb, maybe Li'sar will knight you if you babysit our kids. :)
20090503 02:23:33< keb> ooh you lucky orphan! she is hot
20090503 02:24:12< Sir_Konrad> keb, hahaha
20090503 02:24:20< Sir_Konrad> She's awesome!
20090503 02:25:05< keb> i'll settle for a pike and a pension
20090503 02:26:32< Sir_Konrad> lol
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20090503 02:28:15< Sir_Konrad> keb, wanna play a netgame?
20090503 02:28:51< keb> sorry Sir_Konrad, working on things atm
20090503 02:28:58< Sir_Konrad> keb ok
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20090503 02:30:24< Sir_Konrad> Question: Where can I find the images for the background of the cutscenes?
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20090503 02:32:20< keb> maybe  /usr/local/share/wesnoth/data/core/images/portraits
20090503 02:33:31< keb> story not portraits
20090503 02:33:36< Sir_Konrad> ok just a sec...
20090503 02:34:24< Sir_Konrad> Yup, there they are. ;)
20090503 02:34:28< Sir_Konrad> keb, thanks.
20090503 02:34:40< keb> np
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20090503 02:45:52< jzmer> could anyone confirm that the wesnoth server is down?
20090503 02:45:56< Sir_Konrad> Hey, is the Master Server down?
20090503 02:46:00< Sir_Konrad> Yes it is.
20090503 02:46:20< jzmer> Ah, so it's down.
20090503 02:47:10< Sir_Konrad> What do we do about it?
20090503 02:47:32< Polarina> Sir_Konrad: You go troll the forums like crazy.
20090503 02:47:50< jzmer> Polarina: why do u say that?
20090503 02:47:50< Sir_Konrad> Polarina, lol
20090503 02:48:06< happygrue> ...or join one of the alternate servers
20090503 02:48:17< Sir_Konrad> happygrue, how do you do that?
20090503 02:49:01< happygrue> multiplayer -> join alternate server
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20090503 02:49:11< happygrue> select server2 or server4
20090503 02:49:14< happygrue> *server3
20090503 02:51:35< jzmer> hmm, what is the hardware of the master server?
20090503 02:52:03< jzmer> is it runnning within something like virtualbox?
20090503 02:52:19< Polarina> jzmer: It's a Pentium II processor with 32 MiB of RAM.
20090503 02:53:30< jzmer> Polarina: thats sad
20090503 02:53:44< Polarina> jzmer: Yes, it is.
20090503 02:54:24< Polarina> jzmer: These tin wires aren't handling the load very well, and need to be replaced regularly.
20090503 02:56:06< jzmer> is it possible to run something like a distributed server?
20090503 02:56:41< Polarina> jzmer: The infrastructure doesn't scale well.
20090503 02:58:37< jzmer> well, even things like mathemaica already supports distributed cores, we just need to implement a different wesnothd i suppose
20090503 02:59:15< Polarina> jzmer: The communication layer between clients and the server is what doesn't scale well.
20090503 03:01:35< jzmer> well, u dont need that thick a layer for numericals, i agree
20090503 03:03:31< Soliton> server is back up.
20090503 03:03:50< Soliton> Polarina: would you mind not talking when you have no clue?
20090503 03:04:02< Polarina> Soliton: But I like trolling.
20090503 03:06:36< Soliton> ok.
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20090503 03:10:28< jzmer> by the way is there any plan of forking part of wesnoth to silvertree?
20090503 03:11:45< Blueblaze> The two projects are totally unrelated except that they use a hex
20090503 03:13:08< Soliton> what would that mean anyway?
20090503 03:14:27< jzmer> unrelated? but many of the artwork of silvertree actually derives from wesnoth methinks
20090503 03:16:20< jzmer> that would mean something like giving an opengl client to freeciv
20090503 03:16:51< Soliton> huh
20090503 03:17:13< jzmer> they had "some" but those eventually withered way due to its complexity
20090503 03:17:26< Blueblaze> jzmer: Silvertree is a 3D project, Wesnoth's art is 2D, any art taken from Wesnoth was out of necessity of a placeholder (except possibly the portraits)
20090503 03:17:52< Blueblaze> Wesnoth's sprites, terrain graphics, etc.. obviously won't work for a 3D project
20090503 03:18:36< jzmer> well it wont, but it would provide a prototype in the least, and it will not necessarilly not work
20090503 03:18:50< jzmer> say unit portrait will remain valid work
20090503 03:19:13< Blueblaze> Anyway, the last update from Silver Tree came November 17, 2007, and the last post made on their forums is about a year old
20090503 03:19:14< jzmer> and sprites could probably work on their map editor
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20090503 03:19:37< jzmer> as something resembling a portrait
20090503 03:20:01< jzmer> well take a look at mac os x's aquaterm
20090503 03:20:09< jzmer> the last update is in 2007
20090503 03:20:27< jzmer> and many projects like gnuplot still ships its configuration
20090503 03:22:26< jzmer> so a last update in 2007 is not that late
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20090503 03:33:29< Sir_Konrad> Hey guys, thanks for fixing the server. :)
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20090503 04:19:00< [Relic]> Hello :)
20090503 04:19:42< Sir_Konrad> Hello :)
20090503 04:19:51< Sir_Konrad> How are ya?
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20090503 04:53:20< [Relic]> :)
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20090503 10:03:02< Ivanovic> moin
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20090503 10:08:48< Filled-Void> Hi all, I think I misunderstood this scenario in Son of the Black Eye. I cant seem to find Inatrix anywhere in the map :o or Saurians while the objective requires me to bring him and four suarians to my castles side
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20090503 14:06:33< Funog> hi
20090503 14:08:36< Funog> is there somewhere i can get a full replay of Descent Into Darkness?
20090503 14:09:59< Soliton> unlikely i'd say but you could post at the forum asking for one.
20090503 14:12:35< Funog> ok
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20090503 23:41:51< Zen_Clark> Has there been an attempt to create a deterministic addon?
20090503 23:42:55< Soliton> several
20090503 23:43:04< Zen_Clark> Any worth trying?
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20090503 23:43:54< Soliton> sounds like you're interested so i guess so.
20090503 23:44:50< Zen_Clark> Not really interested myself. Just heard mentionings about people thinking about making one, but never actually seen any.
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