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20090601 04:29:09< Shadow_Master> esr: are you around?
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20090601 04:35:45< Shadow_Master> ew. this sucks.
20090601 04:37:11< Shadow_Master> now I remember why I was avoiding compiling with debug symbols.
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20090601 04:41:43< Shadow_Master> esr: get your butt here and describe how did you make that saved game, because with mine(s), I can't reproduce the bug
20090601 04:43:16< Shadow_Master> I am also a bit doubtful about this. How come her machine has build tools but no gdb?
20090601 04:44:07< Shadow_Master> (then again, what's so difficult about doing apt-get install gdb ?)
20090601 05:02:13< Shadow_Master> esr: okay, since you seem to be ... unavailable, I'll mark it as Need Info.
20090601 05:02:49< Shadow_Master> see my reply in the report. good night (say foo bar if you ever read this btw)
20090601 05:06:00< esr> foo bar
20090601 05:06:18< Shadow_Master> ah :)
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20090601 07:39:40< mordante> morning
20090601 07:42:57< esr> mordante: On my wife's machine, Wesnoth is dying with the following error: condition 'draw' failed at src/gui/widgets./settings.cpp:537 in function "tstate_definition"
20090601 07:43:11< esr> Dies on startup, I mean.
20090601 07:43:42< mordante> hmm ok, you updated both data and source and recompiled?
20090601 07:44:11< esr> Yes.
20090601 07:44:28< esr> svn info says 35984
20090601 07:45:18< esr> Weirdly, I'm at the same rev level and not seeing this.
20090601 07:46:14< mordante> stupid question but not again using the wrong binary?
20090601 07:46:58< esr> No, here has never had build-base enabled.  But I'll check to make sure.
20090601 07:48:08< mordante> I have a hunch what might be the problem, can post an untested patch
20090601 07:48:49< mordante> another question should a translatable strings in a WML macro be between braces?
20090601 07:50:34< silene> no (as long as space constraints are respected, and they are otherwise the preprocessor would complain about the number of arguments)
20090601 07:52:34< esr> mordante: Looks right, but I saw something that suggested clean and build from scratch might be a good idea.  Trying that.
20090601 08:01:16< mordante> silene, I thought it had was the cause of https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13606, guess not then
20090601 08:09:11< esr> mordante: Good news, build after -c made ut go away.
20090601 08:09:40< mordante> ah ok, guess something got out of date then
20090601 08:10:23< esr> Looks like.
20090601 08:10:49< esr> Have you attacked bug  #13602 yet?
20090601 08:14:53< mordante> kind of; I've asked some questions, too much variables at the moment
20090601 08:17:39< silene> mordante: in case it helps, just putting random things in the objectives is enough to trigger the assertion; i guess the text becomes too long or something
20090601 08:18:35< silene> (i triggered it yesterday because i mistakenly wrote <large> instead of <big>)
20090601 08:19:34< mordante> ah ok, just wanted to ask what kind of random things, <large> isn't something really random
20090601 08:19:40< mordante> thanks for the info
20090601 08:20:13< mordante> will look at it later today, just busy with a new widget
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20090601 08:30:15< CIA-77> silene * r35985 /trunk/src/playcampaign.cpp: Fixed Lua events not being loaded when going to next scenario.
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20090601 09:51:43< euschn> hi
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20090601 10:03:04< YogiHH> hello everyone
20090601 10:06:32< euschn> hi YogiHH 
20090601 10:08:26< euschn> YogiHH: did you check out the latest version of the uml diagram and the list of tasks in my wiki? any comments?
20090601 10:09:38< YogiHH> yes, it looks good to me so far. I'd fiddle with some naming here and there but overall it looks fine.
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20090601 10:11:20< YogiHH> euschn: For example savegame_config would be the perfect name for current game_state :-)
20090601 10:11:53< YogiHH> but that's really not that important, we can change that any time
20090601 10:12:15< euschn> ok, but then we should rename the interface SavegameConfig too to avoid confusion
20090601 10:12:21< euschn> ok
20090601 10:12:21< YogiHH> yup
20090601 10:13:56< euschn> YogiHH: another question on the size of commits, since im gonna do the first ones myself today: Taking config_adapter as example, should moving its 4 functions rather be one or four commits?
20090601 10:15:00< YogiHH> euschn: If you simply move them, without having to adapt anything else, i'd make it one commit. Otherwise better split it.
20090601 10:15:20< YogiHH> euschn: oh, wait a minute, what about savegame WML changes? Are those within the steps you described as well?
20090601 10:16:17< euschn> YogiHH: well, I would say implicitly. I plan to realize them in the implementation of SavegameConfig for the respective classes
20090601 10:16:29< YogiHH> alright
20090601 10:17:24< euschn> YogiHH: but you are right, I concentrated a lot on c++ reorganisation. the wml changes have not really updated since my initial proposal
20090601 10:17:34< YogiHH> euschn: please make sure that if you commit: a) the code compiles and b) you have done at least some basic testing of the changes. If the changes are bigger, the testing should be more intense accordingly
20090601 10:18:02< euschn> YogiHH: of course, I will test it as much as possible
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20090601 10:19:19< YogiHH> euschn: well, complete savegame testing is quite lengthy and tedious, so you might want to reduce it if the changes are rather reorganization of code that doesn't touch functionality.
20090601 10:19:34< euschn> mhm
20090601 10:21:53< YogiHH> euschn: ok, i will be off for a while. I'll probably get back tonight, maybe i even shortly stop by before.
20090601 10:22:01< euschn> ok
20090601 10:22:33< YogiHH> see you and happy coding (don't try to break too many things ;-P )
20090601 10:22:41< mordante> euschn, and in general try to do one thing per commit
20090601 10:22:54< mordante> moving x functions is one thing IMO
20090601 10:23:10< euschn> mordante: ok
20090601 10:23:15< mordante> as long as it's only moving and not making minor modifications
20090601 10:23:37< mordante> do you use svn or git?
20090601 10:23:43< euschn> mordante: svn
20090601 10:24:09< mordante> ok, I've to admit it's easier to split commits nicely with git
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20090601 10:24:40< euschn> mordante: I was not aware we had git available (I have never used it too)
20090601 10:25:12< mordante> we have git-svn
20090601 10:25:31< mordante> so the main repo is still svn
20090601 10:25:56< euschn> i see
20090601 10:26:51< mordante> you can download the tarball here http://www.wesnoth.org/files/hidden/wesnoth-git.tar.bz2
20090601 10:28:04< euschn> mordante: thanks, I will have a look at it. first, I will have to read up on using git, tho
20090601 10:29:52< mordante> if you prefer to stay with svn that's also no problem
20090601 10:30:45< euschn> ok, then I might stick with svn as I have it all set up and working now. I will have a look at git regardless
20090601 10:31:13 * stikonas noticed that KDE has started migration from svn to git
20090601 10:36:07< silene> gnome too
20090601 10:38:33< mordante> yes a lot of projects start to move
20090601 10:39:35< silene> most big projects will move to a distributed rcs; and while it arrived lated, git somehow became the de facto standard by having linux and xorg/freedesktop move to it
20090601 10:40:29< stikonas> gnome has already switched
20090601 10:42:12< silene> yes, i meant "started" in the sense that the next release will be the first one to have been developed by depending on git
20090601 10:43:58< mordante> having a distributed rcs really works nicely, you can locally experiment in a branch and commit the polished version
20090601 10:44:29< mordante> and you can look at the history in offline mode which is much faster as looking it up over eg svn
20090601 10:45:16< mordante> afk
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20090601 10:46:31< silene> though for wesnoth, we don't really need the distributed part, since there aren't that many developers; the offline part would be enough
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20090601 11:25:32< Ivanovic> moin
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20090601 11:28:04< Crab_> hi
20090601 11:29:57< euschn> hi Ivanovic 
20090601 11:30:38< Ivanovic> *yawn*
20090601 11:30:51< Ivanovic> and now someone please tell me why i already got up...
20090601 11:31:20< Crab_> Ivanovic: it's summer now :) and day starts earlier :)
20090601 11:31:41< Ivanovic> Crab_: yeah, that is why i got up before 12
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20090601 13:07:48< CIA-77> silene * r35986 /trunk/src/serialization/parser.cpp: Fixed idiotic error messages when parsing broken WML.
20090601 13:29:40< mordante> silene, I'm also not suggesting to move to git, in fact I rather stay with svn since it's easier to use for our artists and pure git has little benefit over git-svn for us
20090601 13:35:20< CIA-77> silene * r35987 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Improved error recovery on missing file/macro when parsing broken WML.
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20090601 13:41:18< CIA-77> silene * r35988 /branches/1.6/src/serialization/ (parser.cpp preprocessor.cpp): 
20090601 13:41:18< CIA-77> Improved usefulness of the parser when dealing with broken WML.
20090601 13:41:18< CIA-77> Backport of revisions 35986 and 35987.
20090601 14:11:43< Shadow_Master> esr: I take it your prior update to 13601 was a completely unrelated issue?
20090601 14:11:51< Ivanovic> esr, fendrin, fabi: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13606
20090601 14:15:50< Shadow_Master> you never answered my gdb question, btw :(
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20090601 15:19:34< Shadow_Master> oops...
20090601 15:19:42< mordante> ?
20090601 15:19:54< Shadow_Master> kernel crash imminent :/
20090601 15:20:03< mordante> :-(
20090601 15:20:11< Shadow_Master> > invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP 
20090601 15:21:01< Shadow_Master> apparently there's a running module that isn't CPU hotplug-aware
20090601 15:22:24< Shadow_Master> virtualbox's kernel module. Now it cannot be removed and there's an unkillable userland process around. I'd better reboot :/
20090601 15:23:20< Shadow_Master> http://pastebin.com/d42ca32b1 :(
20090601 15:24:19< loonycyborg> Perhaps you could use xen instead..
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20090601 15:29:25< Ivanovic> why not kvm/qemu ?
20090601 15:29:53< Ivanovic> should work really nicely by now and support hardware virtualization nicely
20090601 15:30:08< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: long story.
20090601 15:30:47< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: You still didn't enable virtualization support in BIOS?
20090601 15:30:51< Shadow_Master> the required minimum kernel(s) did this to my /usr tree: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog.pl/2009/04/27#radeon_and_kompmgr_part_2
20090601 15:30:54< Shadow_Master> loonycyborg: it is enabled.
20090601 15:31:46< Shadow_Master> but I definitively won't upgrade my kernel and I'll stick to 2.6.28.8 for as long as possible. Thus kvm or drm are out of my reach
20090601 15:33:24< Shadow_Master> virtualbox works really, really better than qemu, it's just that I never had the bad idea of doing CPU hotplug while a VM was running
20090601 15:34:13< Shadow_Master> * qemu+kqemu, of course.
20090601 15:34:53< loonycyborg> If it's due to hardware virtualization then xen supports it too.
20090601 15:35:36< loonycyborg> In fact it can only work if either guest OS is patched or there is hardware virtualization available.
20090601 15:36:15< Shadow_Master> does it have a comfortable GUI? mouse integration? optimized for latest windows nt versions?
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20090601 15:37:51< loonycyborg> No idea. Probably not :P
20090601 15:39:04< Shadow_Master> well, mouse integration (plus some other goodies) isn't available in the opensource virtualbox distro either, but it is in the proprietary one
20090601 15:39:38< Shadow_Master> I'm all for using proprietary software if it does the job better ;)
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20090601 15:42:28< mordante> in that case you can also use VMWare ;-)
20090601 15:42:45< Shadow_Master> forgot to mention the "freeware" part of the equation
20090601 15:43:05< mordante> I thought you might have
20090601 15:43:54< mordante> and virtual box is rather nice as well
20090601 15:50:24< Shadow_Master> I recall that I once tried to get a trial version of vmware, but gave up after the horrible registration form
20090601 15:51:13< Shadow_Master> downloading a trial version of MS Virtual PC was much easier
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20090601 16:24:40< CIA-77> silene * r35989 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Removed unused member preoprocessor::called_macros_.
20090601 16:31:21< CIA-77> silene * r35990 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Removed unused member preprocessor::is_macro.
20090601 16:33:26< CIA-77> euschn * r35991 /trunk/src/ (12 files in 2 dirs): savegame reorganization: moved the functions of config_adapter to controller_base, play_controller, team and game_state
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20090601 17:28:51< CIA-77> silene * r35992 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Delayed substitution of macro arguments so that they are preprocessed only once. (Fix bug #13606.)
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20090601 17:39:28< CIA-77> mordante * r35993 /trunk/src/ (sdl_utils.cpp sdl_utils.hpp): 
20090601 17:39:28< CIA-77> Add an inplace blur function.
20090601 17:39:28< CIA-77> This function will be used to reenable blurring of transparent dialogs.
20090601 17:39:43< CIA-77> mordante * r35994 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/ (canvas.cpp canvas.hpp): 
20090601 17:39:43< CIA-77> Add a blit function to the canvas.
20090601 17:39:43< CIA-77> This function allows to do pre commit actions (not yet implemented).
20090601 17:39:48< CIA-77> mordante * r35995 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (control.cpp panel.cpp settings.cpp): Convert the widgets to use the new blit function.
20090601 17:39:52< CIA-77> mordante * r35996 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/ (canvas.cpp canvas.hpp): 
20090601 17:39:52< CIA-77> Adding the blurring function to the canvas.
20090601 17:39:52< CIA-77> It can't be used in a dialog yet since it seems dialogs get drawn twice
20090601 17:39:52< CIA-77> upon creation, which creates an ugly blur.
20090601 17:42:05< CIA-77> euschn * r35997 /trunk/src/ (5 files): savegame reorganization: removed config_adapter.cpp/hpp
20090601 17:50:24< Ivanovic> uhm, are you really interested in such an addition? https://gna.org/patch/?1179
20090601 17:50:44< Ivanovic> especially that two new libs are needed, libnotify as well as ktkmm
20090601 17:52:22< mordante> who's interested? 
20090601 17:54:41< Ivanovic> s/you/we
20090601 17:54:45< Ivanovic> ;)
20090601 17:54:46< mordante> I get scared by inclusion guards in a .cpp file
20090601 17:55:16< mordante> I thought I might have missed something in the netsplit ;-)
20090601 17:55:55< Ivanovic> netsplit?
20090601 17:55:57< Ivanovic> which netsplit?
20090601 17:56:27< mordante> about an hour ago
20090601 17:56:56< Shadow_Master> mordante: you didn't miss anyhting
20090601 17:57:04< Shadow_Master> *anything
20090601 17:57:06< mordante> ok thanks
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20090601 18:05:09< mordante> silene, does wesnoth start for you when you use wesnoth -t ?
20090601 18:06:10< silene> mordante: no, i will take a look
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20090601 18:07:41< silene> i had tested three campaigns and the tutorial; but it seems like there are still some corner cases
20090601 18:08:41< Rhonda> Just for your informations, I turned on greylisting (10 minutes minimum delay) and sender callouts for wesnoth.org mails. If you notice any problems please let me know.
20090601 18:08:52< mordante> I'm using the tutorial since it directly shows a message, which makes testing easier
20090601 18:09:13-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 59 bugs, 241 feature requests, 15 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20090601 18:10:15< crimson_penguin> http://www.happyspork.com/pics/marksman.png
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20090601 18:10:42< crimson_penguin> how can it be 50% with marksman?
20090601 18:11:13< silene> how... come on... who thought it was a good idea to put a comment inside macro brackets...
20090601 18:12:10< silene> crimson_penguin: there are some marksman ability that are active only on attack
20090601 18:12:29< crimson_penguin> oh... um, some?
20090601 18:12:35< crimson_penguin> how can you tell the difference?
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20090601 18:13:24< Soliton> marksman is attack only.
20090601 18:13:32< crimson_penguin> oh, ok
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20090601 18:17:13< silene> zookeeper: could you check if the comment you added in 32909 is still relevant?
20090601 18:18:21< mordante> ilor, around?
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20090601 18:29:58< mordante> esr, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=359826#p359826
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20090601 18:56:23< zookeeper> wesbot, log 32909
20090601 18:56:26< wesbot> zookeeper * r32909 : Converted OBJ_POTION_HOLY to use PICKUPPABLE_ITEM.
20090601 18:56:30< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=32909
20090601 18:57:15< CIA-77> silene * r35998 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Prevented comments embedded between macro brackets from producing spurious newline characters.
20090601 18:59:14< CIA-77> mordante * r35999 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (grid.cpp window.cpp): 
20090601 18:59:14< CIA-77> Avoid redrawing the window twice.
20090601 18:59:14< CIA-77> The grid didn't clear tgrid properly so added a manual clearing. The
20090601 18:59:14< CIA-77> code doesn't look too great since too many people clear the dirty state,
20090601 18:59:14< CIA-77> which should be fixed later.
20090601 18:59:22< CIA-77> mordante * r36000 /trunk/data/gui/default/widget/window_default.cfg: Reanable blurring for the transient window.
20090601 18:59:31< CIA-77> mordante * r36001 /trunk/changelog: Update the changelog.
20090601 19:01:35< zookeeper> silene, yes
20090601 19:02:06< zookeeper> silene, basically that string is supposed to be the string which tells what the object is and asks whether the current unit should pick it up or not
20090601 19:03:05< silene> i know, but why is it a fixme?
20090601 19:03:51< zookeeper> because i did that stuff during the string freeze?
20090601 19:05:23< silene> so could you fix it please, since we are no longer in string freeze? i can't fix it myself since the comment doesn't tell what's wrong with the sentence
20090601 19:06:04< zookeeper> sure
20090601 19:08:52< Shadow_Master> *Sigh* gods, I hate wmllint.
20090601 19:09:04< mordante> silene, thanks for fixing the test scenario
20090601 19:09:59< Shadow_Master> I thought wesnoth's WML error reporting was awful, but wmllint wins the lottery
20090601 19:10:31 * Shadow_Master pokes esr with a pointy poisoned spear
20090601 19:14:09< CIA-77> zookeeper * r36002 /trunk/data/core/macros/items.cfg: Changed the description of the holy water when asking the player whether or not to pick it up.
20090601 19:14:24< Shadow_Master> "Will fix." Sure. after how much time..
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20090601 19:33:59< ilor> mordante?
20090601 19:36:12< mordante> ilor, I was wondering how things were going
20090601 19:36:56< ilor> mordante: sadly, no commit-worthy progress regarding the mp server, got all tied up with uni stuff
20090601 19:37:23< mordante> :-(, but made good progress on the uni stuff?
20090601 19:38:32< ilor> mordante: quite solid, but not finished yet
20090601 19:50:52< mordante> ok
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20090601 20:08:48< mordante> I'm off bye
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20090601 20:51:55< boucman> hey all
20090601 20:52:12< esr> boucman: Some time, no see.
20090601 20:52:15< Crab_> hi boucman
20090601 20:53:36< boucman> esr: indeed :P
20090601 20:53:40< boucman> Crab_: had a nice day ?
20090601 20:54:46< Crab_> boucman: yes :) I've found and fixed a stupid code error I've done a few days ago, and now my work-in-progress code works fine :)
20090601 20:55:08< boucman> hehe
20090601 20:55:09< boucman> cool
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20090601 20:55:46< Crab_> so, now I'm cleaning it all up and will commit soon.
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20090601 20:56:07< boucman> tonight ?
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20090601 20:57:30< Crab_> tomorrow. but maybe today, too.
20090601 20:57:42< boucman> ok, 
20090601 20:57:54< boucman> I was just planning the proofreading, no hurry
20090601 20:57:59< Crab_> I want to simplify my code a bit more before committing
20090601 20:57:59< boucman> commit when it's ready
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20090601 21:00:19< CIA-77> silene * r36003 /trunk/src/dialogs.cpp: Used the objective dialog title for the scenario name.
20090601 21:00:22< CIA-77> silene * r36004 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Added note and removed trailing newline from objective dialog.
20090601 21:00:40< Crab_> boucman: yes. the diff is long, but it's mostly new code.
20090601 21:01:35< Crab_> boucman: and I'll send a 'warning-about-file-renames' message to ML soon.
20090601 21:01:43< boucman> k
20090601 21:02:00< Crab_> because I feel that it's time to drop the ai_ prefix from most of the files in src/ai
20090601 21:02:48< Crab_> I will leave this prefix only in files which contain the actual "ai_interface" implementation ( such as ai_dfool.?pp )
20090601 21:03:27< Crab_> for consistency, I'd also like to rename formula_ai -> ai_formula but I'd wait for DK before doing that.
20090601 21:03:42< boucman> has dk been around recently ?
20090601 21:03:50< Ivanovic> i don't think so
20090601 21:03:55< Ivanovic> at least not around and very active
20090601 21:04:28< Crab_> also, I'll move most of the AI code in into ai:: namespace, and rename current default ai from 'ai' to 'ai_default'
20090601 21:05:53< boucman> ok, all that was planned and makes sense
20090601 21:09:33< Crab_> boucman: and, what is the better name for initialization method - init(...) or on_create(...) or something else ?
20090601 21:09:57< boucman> i usually use init() but it's a matter of taste...
20090601 21:10:03< Crab_> ok, thanks.
20090601 21:12:27< Crab_> (all ai parts will have to have delayed initialization because they often require calling some virtual methods, which are unsafe to call from constructors)
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20090601 23:55:17< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36005 /trunk/po/wesnoth/POTFILES.in: remove now deleted source file from file listing
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