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following bo 20090615 11:35:44< wesbot> th files: 20090615 11:35:47< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/patch/?1177 20090615 11:35:49< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/patch/download.php?file_id=5860 20090615 11:35:55< AI0867> Soliton: not really 20090615 11:49:30< Soliton> AI0867: ok, will you do that then or should i? 20090615 11:58:35< AI0867> I'm off for an exam, so go ahead 20090615 11:59:54< Soliton> alright, good luck with your exam! 20090615 12:03:45-!- grzybacz [i=grzywacz@kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 12:05:25< CIA-77> soliton * r36217 /branches/1.6/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/utils/deaths.cfg: Apply patch #1177, remove duplicate Kior-Pur death event. 20090615 12:05:32< CIA-77> soliton * r36218 /branches/1.6/data/core/about.cfg: Add author of patch #1177 to about.cfg 20090615 12:13:50-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090615 12:19:24-!- anomie3 [n=gare@72.55.205.138] has quit [Read 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multiplayer_ui.cpp): basic /command-based room support in game for testing 20090615 13:02:23-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 13:03:23< ilor> mordante: above commits allow simple testing of the room system, /join and /part are rather obvious, /room room message sends a message to a room, displayed as for other players 20090615 13:04:14< ilor> mordante: I wanted to check wheter it works as expected with players joining games, but I get crashes, will check on *nix 20090615 13:07:42< Soliton> i've created two games and quit without problem. 20090615 13:08:11< Soliton> i've recompiled the server with your changes now. 20090615 13:12:23-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090615 13:15:23-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090615 13:20:14-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-98-244.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 13:54:44< Ivanovic> hi 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(not via an alias or so) 20090615 15:11:34< Rhonda> Write a wrapper script. 20090615 15:11:37< Rhonda> And divert the application. 20090615 15:12:13< Rhonda> #!/bin/sh \n nice real-application $* 20090615 15:14:18< Soliton> nothing more elegant than that? 20090615 15:18:28< Soliton> hmm, niced looks interesting. 20090615 15:19:56-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@CMU-326818.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Connection timed out] 20090615 15:20:14< Soliton> i hate it when google corrects my "misspelled" words in a search. i had to make it "niced" to find something useful. 20090615 15:20:41-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 15:23:40-!- Michael_Puer2 [n=michael_@188-23-3-65.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 15:28:29-!- ilor_ [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 15:32:02< shadowmaster> it seems university decided to block port 6667 from now on 20090615 15:32:40< shadowmaster> I hope they don't decide to block SSH too.. 20090615 15:34:05< CIA-77> euschn * r36228 /trunk/src/ (12 files in 4 dirs): added a tod_manager member to classes battle_context, attack and mouse_handler (in preparation of gamestatus removal) 20090615 15:34:37< Soliton> euschn: know anything about bug #13699: loading a saved game acts like a totally new move? 20090615 15:35:10< shadowmaster> eek, they deleted the web pages with the listing of usable ports 20090615 15:35:52< Ivanovic> hehehe 20090615 15:36:01< Ivanovic> nice they are, now you got to test the ports yourself 20090615 15:36:02< Ivanovic> ;) 20090615 15:36:53< Soliton> i doubt they'll ever block ssh so you can always tunnel stuff. 20090615 15:36:56< euschn> Soliton: hm, that sounds bad. did you try that out for yourself yet? 20090615 15:36:58< shadowmaster> that page was a lie anyway. They blocked FTP, for instance, while it was listed as non-blocked in there 20090615 15:37:05< Soliton> euschn: nope. 20090615 15:37:12< euschn> will do then 20090615 15:37:17< shadowmaster> Soliton: well, the math department's private network has SSH blocked 20090615 15:38:07< Soliton> then run sshd on port 80 or something. :-) 20090615 15:38:34-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 15:39:14< shadowmaster> I remember that the admin of this server had plans to run an apache server there 20090615 15:39:43< shadowmaster> I'll take it in mind if things get worse though ;) 20090615 15:39:49-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20090615 15:40:46< Soliton> there's also https or so that is likely always open. 20090615 15:40:50< Crab_> imo, 'openvpn on tcp port 443' is best for bypassing corporate/uni firewalls. it will even work through https proxy 20090615 15:41:25< shadowmaster> hah, I found a flaw in their plan 20090615 15:41:26-!- shadowmaster_ [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 15:41:41< shadowmaster_> port 7070 :) 20090615 15:43:46< Crab_> :) 20090615 15:43:47< shadowmaster_> it doesn't seem to be officially used for anything according to wikipedia 20090615 15:44:14 * shadowmaster_ checks if perhaps the ports for the official wesnoth servers are open 20090615 15:44:37-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090615 15:44:42< euschn> Soliton: I was able to reproduce it. I dont know if my recent changes could have caused this though, most of them are not actually functional yet 20090615 15:44:43-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 15:45:01-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090615 15:45:29-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 15:45:40-!- shadowmaster_ [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090615 15:46:02< Soliton> euschn: well, it just sounded like something in your area. i have not investigated. 20090615 15:47:27< euschn> Soliton: I agree, it is. I will have a look at it 20090615 15:48:26-!- stikonas [n=and@ctv-213-164-98-244.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 15:50:11-!- shikadibot23 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 15:57:08-!- shikadibot23 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has quit ["die()"] 20090615 16:04:15< Soliton> bah, been chasing a mysterious segfault and i just didn't rebuild after a failed test... 20090615 16:12:57-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 16:16:22-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 16:23:51-!- shikadibot [n=robored@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit ["die"] 20090615 16:24:18< shadowmaster> there's even a coredump in its resource dir 20090615 16:24:41< shadowmaster> I wonder why are coredumps enabled though? 20090615 16:25:20< shadowmaster> er. #wesnoth-dev. Wrong channel. Right 20090615 16:29:58-!- shikadibot [n=robored@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 16:33:02-!- shikadibot [n=robored@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit [Client Quit] 20090615 16:35:00-!- shikadibot [n=robored@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 16:36:26< Soliton> does anyone know where markup is used in floating labels? 20090615 16:36:35< Soliton> besides map labels. 20090615 16:37:03-!- grzybacz [i=grzywacz@kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090615 16:41:48-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 16:42:01< Rhonda> Soliton: Maybe selinux allows you to set such things, nice levels for applications. :) 20090615 16:47:15< CIA-77> euschn * r36229 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): added tod_manager member to classes attack_type, battle_prediction_pane, attack_prediction_displayer and struct unit_stats (in preparation for gamestatus removal) 20090615 16:47:41< Soliton> Rhonda: i see. don't know much about selinux unfortunately. 20090615 16:49:29-!- euschn [n=chatzill@wesnoth/developer/euschn] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Iceweasel 3.0.6/2009050519]"] 20090615 16:59:45-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:03:01-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090615 17:04:41-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090615 17:07:31-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit ["Tengo que ir... Yeahzorz..."] 20090615 17:07:50-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:08:01 * Ivanovic loves perfect "problem reports" like this one: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25857&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a 20090615 17:08:14< Ivanovic> especially note the title which already gives all the details needed... 20090615 17:10:01-!- Michael_Puer [n=michael_@188-23-3-65.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:10:38-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090615 17:10:39-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:10:51-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:11:38< Polarina> That bug report is clear enough. 20090615 17:13:05< Soliton> clearly there is an error. 20090615 17:22:07-!- yann [n=dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 17:22:25< Polarina> "$name River,River $name" -- I want to translate, in the previous part, " River" into "á". Is "$nameá,Áin $name" valid? 20090615 17:25:23< Soliton> $name|á 20090615 17:25:28< Polarina> Ok. 20090615 17:26:16< Polarina> This naming translation system is also extremely primitive. It works badly on languages that have more cases than the nominative, for example the accusative. 20090615 17:27:33< Ivanovic> Polarina: it is not trivial to generate an easily internationalizationable system for automatic generation of placenames 20090615 17:27:39< Ivanovic> without hardcoding names that is 20090615 17:28:25< Polarina> You could for example have $name{2}| for the accusative case of a name, or $name{1}| for the nominative. 20090615 17:28:36-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:29:04< Polarina> And instead of somename,Li'Sar,Harald,etc, there can be somename|somename,Li'Sar|Li'sar(accusative),Harald|Harald. 20090615 17:29:15< Ivanovic> trust me, this won't work for all languages either 20090615 17:29:28< Polarina> How so? 20090615 17:29:46< Ivanovic> languages are a really strange thing and what about langs that use more than nominative as well as accusative? 20090615 17:30:00< Ivanovic> that is: more than the tiny amount of cases possible in english 20090615 17:30:10< Ivanovic> (yeah, there are languages with *more*) 20090615 17:30:16< Polarina> Li'Sar|Li'Sar|Li'sar|Lo'Ser|La'Sor 20090615 17:30:34< Polarina> $name{5}| 20090615 17:30:38< Ivanovic> and how to determin ingame what to take in which lang? 20090615 17:30:50< Polarina> Which what? 20090615 17:30:53< Ivanovic> when would using $name{5} be incorrect? 20090615 17:31:04< Polarina> Or some other syntax.. 20090615 17:31:18< Polarina> You create a translatable string to tell which one it is. 20090615 17:31:28< Ivanovic> sorry, it is not possible to generate a good system with an acceptable amount of work still keeping it easy to use 20090615 17:31:39< Polarina> :( 20090615 17:31:44< Ivanovic> "good system" as in "really universal for all languages out there" 20090615 17:32:08< Polarina> I am pretty sure that the system I proposed will cover most of them. 20090615 17:33:05< Ivanovic> but it won't be really easy to use in all cases 20090615 17:33:15< Polarina> Probably not. 20090615 17:35:52< Polarina> For example "$name Forest,$name's Forest" is impossible to translate. 20090615 17:37:50< Polarina> I would at least post on the i18n mailing list this system and see what other translators say. 20090615 17:38:01< Polarina> s/post/propose/ 20090615 17:38:12 * zookeeper still thinks the whole place-naming system is pointless 20090615 17:38:36< Polarina> Well, obviously, the current system isn't doing the job. :) 20090615 17:39:37< zookeeper> what job? 20090615 17:39:44< zookeeper> that's the point 20090615 17:40:19< Polarina> zookeeper: On representing names properly. 20090615 17:43:15< zookeeper> how useful or often used is that? 20090615 17:43:40< Polarina> zookeeper: Used what? 20090615 17:43:52< zookeeper> representing names properly 20090615 17:44:13< Polarina> zookeeper: Did you even read what I said earlier? 20090615 17:44:36< shadowmaster> zookeeper: people consider the place-naming system a nice touch to the game's personality 20090615 17:44:45< zookeeper> Polarina, yes 20090615 17:44:48< shadowmaster> ^ [who?] [citation needed] 20090615 17:50:18-!- Michael_Puer2 [n=michael_@188-23-100-122.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:50:24< Polarina> "Sentu bréfið til hans Bára (genitive case)". There, it is a masculine name (Bári in nominative case), but Bára (nominative case) is a feminine name (Báru in genitive case). 20090615 17:51:05< Polarina> And that is a problem with the current system. 20090615 17:52:06-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 17:57:16-!- Michael_Puer [n=michael_@188-23-3-65.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 17:57:35-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has quit ["Quitting (requested by Shadow_Master via C:message)"] 20090615 17:59:31< stikonas> That's the problem with all languages where grammatical case changes the word itself 20090615 17:59:50< Polarina> Exactly. 20090615 18:05:58< Polarina> I could solve it by saying "Sentu bréfið til þann sem heitir Bára/Bári (both nominative)" -- "Send the letter to the one whose name is Bára/Bári". 20090615 18:06:32< Polarina> And make everything nominative with "hacks" like that. 20090615 18:08:00-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 18:08:05-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has quit [Client Quit] 20090615 18:16:21-!- ettin_ [n=jorda@wesnoth/developer/ettin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 18:21:37-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 18:28:49-!- Tigge [n=tigge@bacchus.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 18:30:49-!- ettin [n=jorda@wesnoth/developer/ettin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 18:35:55-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]"] 20090615 18:40:42-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20090615 18:54:45-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:00:09-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:11:40-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has quit ["leaving"] 20090615 19:16:04-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:45:10-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:45:26-!- YogiHH [n=chatzill@d152119.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:46:24< CIA-77> mordante * r36230 /trunk/ (cmake/TranslationTargets.cmake po/CMakeLists.txt): Remove some old cmake translation targets. 20090615 19:50:06-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has quit [Client Quit] 20090615 19:50:32-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:50:41-!- shikadibot-41 [n=shikadi@146.155.83.220] has quit [Client Quit] 20090615 19:52:02-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 19:52:03-!- mode/#wesnoth-dev [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20090615 19:52:28< mordante> servus 20090615 19:52:32-!- mode/#wesnoth-dev [+b *!*shikadi@146.155.*] by shadowmaster 20090615 19:52:34< Ivanovic> hi mordante 20090615 19:52:38-!- mode/#wesnoth-dev [-o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20090615 19:52:39< mordante> hi Ivanovic 20090615 19:59:54-!- ardesh [n=ardesh@port-92-206-128-61.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 20:03:44< mordante> cjhopman, IIRC it was you who added ttext_history, didn't you? 20090615 20:05:30< mordante> grzywacz, if you sacrifice more goats with your summoning I'm around faster :-P 20090615 20:07:14< grzywacz> mordante, not enough goats 20090615 20:07:47-!- giusef_ [n=giusef@unaffiliated/giusef] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 20:08:13< grzywacz> mordante, any idea what would be the easiest way to implement some kind of a visual cue for completed campaigns with gui2? Can I add a disabled checkbox to a listbox, for example? 20090615 20:08:24< grzywacz> mordante, or can I add an icon to the label field? ;) 20090615 20:08:57< mordante> you can do a checkbox, but an icon would be nice 20090615 20:09:22< mordante> you can't add an icon to the label, but you add an image, before or after it 20090615 20:09:52< mordante> or maybe do something with the icon of the campaign 20090615 20:11:13< grzywacz> Using a different icon for each campaign is going to be difficult because art is scarce. ;-) 20090615 20:12:55< mordante> we have WSAS :-P 20090615 20:13:19< grzywacz> Any candidates yet? ;-) 20090615 20:13:48< mordante> not sure but I thought there were some people for it 20090615 20:14:14< grzywacz> ok, in the meantime, can you give me some hints on how to add an another icon or a checkbox there? 20090615 20:14:35-!- ardesh_ [n=ardesh@port-92-206-71-114.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090615 20:14:39< grzywacz> like, is there a special string key to use to insert a widget? 20090615 20:15:02< grzywacz> "icon" and "label" that seem to have a special meaning, anything else? 20090615 20:16:23< grzywacz> "toggle_button"? ;) 20090615 20:21:28< mordante> it's a toggle button with an icon and label which you can set 20090615 20:21:56< mordante> I also think a toggle button, won't allow what you want and you'll need to change it to a togglepanel 20090615 20:22:09< boucman> mordante: two student pages for WSAS so far 20090615 20:22:16< boucman> kitty and tsi 20090615 20:22:22< mordante> which is also used in the addon server list 20090615 20:22:30< mordante> boucman, ah cool :-) 20090615 20:35:37< mordante> ilor_, I'm testing the rooms and the sender gets bar, guess it misses a space 20090615 20:36:07-!- mode/#wesnoth-dev [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20090615 20:36:08< ilor_> mordante: it's just for testing anyway 20090615 20:36:21-!- mode/#wesnoth-dev [-b *!*shikadi@146.155.*] by shadowmaster 20090615 20:36:25-!- mode/#wesnoth-dev [-o shadowmaster] by ChanServ 20090615 20:36:43< mordante> other then that it seems to work 20090615 20:37:42< mordante> only if I'm not in a room, I seem not be allowed to send a message (seems reasonable) but I get no error when trying 20090615 20:38:21< ilor_> yes, error notifications for some stuff are missing 20090615 20:40:43-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit ["leaving"] 20090615 21:01:04-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 21:01:10< silene> hi 20090615 21:02:04< grzywacz> mordante, ah, but the addon list doesn't have icons ;) 20090615 21:04:11< mordante> hi silene 20090615 21:04:48< mordante> grzywacz, very true it has two labels, but if you add an image instead of a label and set its label it uses it as path to the file 20090615 21:09:04< grzywacz> mordante, ok, a link to some docs would help immensely :) 20090615 21:17:17 * mordante hopes it's online... 20090615 21:17:18< grzywacz> nvm, found it 20090615 21:18:20< mordante> ok 20090615 21:19:47< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36231 /branches/1.6/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated Czech translation 20090615 21:19:57< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36232 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated Czech translation 20090615 21:24:40-!- yann [n=dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 21:27:37-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 21:28:14-!- ^Noyga^ [n=noyga@AVelizy-151-1-14-150.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 21:29:46-!- ^Noyga^ [n=noyga@AVelizy-151-1-14-150.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Quitte"] 20090615 21:41:09< grzywacz> Maybe a laurel icon for completed campaigns? 20090615 21:41:33< mordante> :-) 20090615 21:43:17< CIA-77> mordante * r36233 /trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Move gui2::tbuilder_control to its own file. 20090615 21:48:08-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 22:05:34< boucman> hey Crab_ 20090615 22:05:43< Crab_> hi boucman 20090615 22:06:53< grzywacz> I hope my gimp skills will prompt some artist to redo it ASAP :D 20090615 22:07:28< zookeeper> make a crappy icon, commit it, point jetryl to it 20090615 22:07:47< mordante> grzywacz, I wish you luck, my crappy art is still around :-( 20090615 22:07:48< zookeeper> that's the best way of getting a good one i think :p 20090615 22:08:00< zookeeper> mordante, like what? 20090615 22:08:35< boucman> mordante: that means it's not crappy enough :P 20090615 22:08:41< mordante> zookeeper, the new transparent dialogs 20090615 22:08:45< grzywacz> zookeeper, you read in my mind :P 20090615 22:09:52< zookeeper> mordante, i didn't know there was anything crappy about those.. 20090615 22:10:34< mordante> hmm guess boucman is right... 20090615 22:10:54< grzywacz> http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/~grzywacz/laurel.png 20090615 22:10:55< mordante> and I see my crappy editor art, only caused people to imitate it :-/ 20090615 22:10:55< grzywacz> ;] [; 20090615 22:11:31 * mordante goes off and starts to cry 20090615 22:11:34< grzywacz> mordante, can I use any size for the image, or is it constrained to 72x72? 20090615 22:12:06< mordante> no constrain only the rows get higher 20090615 22:12:15-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/"] 20090615 22:12:53-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090615 22:14:17< zookeeper> grzywacz, maybe the other kind of laurel would have prompted a more immediate replacement 20090615 22:15:25< zookeeper> grzywacz, so better let them be max 72x72 20090615 22:16:05< grzywacz> zookeeper, actually I was thinking about something smaller. completion icon the size of the campaign icon is probably going to look weird 20090615 22:16:52< zookeeper> well, you can still keep the dimensions themselves 72x72. for example if the centering wouldn't work otherwise. 20090615 22:17:40< Soliton> is that laurel supposed to get overlaid over the campaign icon? 20090615 22:17:50< grzywacz> http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/~grzywacz/screen.jpg 20090615 22:17:53< grzywacz> Half this size? 20090615 22:18:04< grzywacz> Soliton, that would be the best, dunno how to do it :) 20090615 22:18:05< grzywacz> mordante? 20090615 22:18:38< zookeeper> i'd imagine it'd be better not to have a "not completed" icon at all 20090615 22:18:50< grzywacz> agreed 20090615 22:19:15< grzywacz> Laurel with campaign icon on top sounds nice.... 20090615 22:19:20< zookeeper> anyways, overlaying on the campaign icon would probably work too. it'd be nice if it was implemented via a new image path function :> 20090615 22:19:24< mordante> grzywacz, if I were you, I'd make the laurel crappier :-P 20090615 22:19:25< zookeeper> http://www.clown-ministry.com/images/laurel-and-hardy-giftset-volume-1.jpg 20090615 22:19:32< mordante> can you select the line with the laurel? 20090615 22:19:49< grzywacz> zookeeper, :P 20090615 22:19:57< mordante> and I also think no icon when not finished the campaign 20090615 22:20:19< grzywacz> mordante, you mean a screenshot with the line selected? looks good 20090615 22:20:36< mordante> yes I'd like to see that as well 20090615 22:21:13< grzywacz> zookeeper, if it was a standalone icon, then some kind of a golden graal inside the laurel would be needed ;) 20090615 22:21:57< grzywacz> mordante, http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/~grzywacz/selected.jpg 20090615 22:22:28-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 22:22:54< mordante> yeah looks fine, maybe a bit more centred 20090615 22:23:23< grzywacz> mordante, the icon is centered. the right-align look comes from longer campaign names not visible on the screen 20090615 22:23:54< grzywacz> erm, nope 20090615 22:24:26< grzywacz> yeah, THoT does it 20090615 22:25:41< grzywacz> I guess it wouldn't be too hard to create campaign icons with laurels. Probably easier than do the compositioning in software. 20090615 22:27:19< mordante> I was talking about the vertical centering not horizontally 20090615 22:27:43< grzywacz> http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/~grzywacz/laurel_only.png 20090615 22:27:59< grzywacz> mordante, hm, yes. thanks. 20090615 22:29:51< mordante> you increase the hue? 20090615 22:31:05< grzywacz> nope, saved as png 20090615 22:31:07< grzywacz> http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/~grzywacz/centered.png 20090615 22:31:29-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Client Quit] 20090615 22:32:00-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 22:32:02< mordante> the difference is scary 20090615 22:32:15< grzywacz> Yes, with default settings. 20090615 22:32:32< grzywacz> mordante, so, um.. [image] that supports a few labels and blits them in order? 20090615 22:32:41< grzywacz> ;) 20090615 22:33:58< mordante> can already be done, with a few hacks ;-) 20090615 22:34:40< grzywacz> mordante, elaborate please, I'd love to test what it looks like stacked ;) 20090615 22:35:41< Soliton> i think in general a custom icon for won campaigns should be allowed and if not specified the laurel overlaid. 20090615 22:35:44< mordante> (actually it's too ugly to even consider it :-P, but you can add a back or foreground image to the toggle_panel) 20090615 22:36:03< mordante> laurel over- or underlay? 20090615 22:36:42< grzywacz> under 20090615 22:37:14< mordante> then you can draw it on the panel background 20090615 22:37:35< grzywacz> Soliton, the idea is not to add it to the right... And I think that with every campaign showing some custom icon when won it might get too cluttered 20090615 22:38:06< Soliton> yes, that is my idea, too. 20090615 22:39:36-!- ilor_ [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090615 22:40:13< boucman> so, Crab_, how is it going ? 20090615 22:40:52< grzywacz> mordante, so a panel with 2 columns for icon and label and an embedded panel for icon foreground/background? 20090615 22:41:02< grzywacz> s/embedded/nested/ 20090615 22:41:15-!- maxy [n=maxy@84-74-83-103.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 20090615 22:41:27< grzywacz> mordante, won't that break the blue background? 20090615 22:41:31< grzywacz> … nevermind 20090615 22:44:10< Crab_> boucman: I've defended my magister's thesis today, so no more stuff to do this summer except GSoC. Will do some wrap-up stuff tomorrow and after that, I'll continue my work on splitting ai_default into candidate actions. 20090615 22:44:18< grzywacz> ugh, it *does* break the background 20090615 22:44:40< mordante> grzywacz, I didn't expect it to look too nice ;-P 20090615 22:44:56< boucman> Crab_: congratulation 20090615 22:45:05< Crab_> boucman: thanks. 20090615 22:45:28< Crab_> boucman: I expect that I'll commit first part (combat phase and some support functions that were needed) at wednesday's evening. 20090615 22:45:45< mordante> grzywacz, I guess the image with several layers would be the best solution 20090615 22:46:05< mordante> congrats Crab_ 20090615 22:46:14< Crab_> thanks mordante 20090615 22:46:58< boucman> sounds good 20090615 22:47:05< mordante> I'm off night 20090615 22:47:22< Crab_> boucman: I'll test that 'combat phase' using ai arena 20090615 22:47:44< grzywacz> night mordante … 20090615 22:47:47< Crab_> boucman: and, I'm going to convert it to use my ai::actions for moving/attacking, too. 20090615 22:48:05-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090615 22:49:20-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has quit ["Quitte"] 20090615 22:54:56< Crab_> good night 20090615 22:55:04< boucman> night 20090615 22:55:17-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090615 23:00:54< YogiHH> good night 20090615 23:01:06-!- YogiHH [n=chatzill@d152119.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090615 23:04:56-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.138.177] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 23:05:43-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.138.177] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 23:11:17-!- yann [n=dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090615 23:24:47-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090615 23:25:16-!- Sapient [n=patrickp@wesnoth/developer/sapient] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 23:33:38< CIA-77> soliton * r36234 /branches/1.6/src/font.cpp: replace last empty line if we have just one 20090615 23:34:59< CIA-77> soliton * r36235 /trunk/src/font.cpp: replace last empty line if we have just one 20090615 23:44:43-!- giusef_ [n=giusef@unaffiliated/giusef] has quit ["exit (-1);"] 20090615 23:46:30< grzywacz> ugh 20090615 23:52:02< Soliton> Sapient: tell me what i wanted to ask you about. 20090615 23:54:14< Sapient> hi 20090615 23:54:26 * Sapient checks the irclog 20090615 23:54:46< Soliton> nothing in there. :-/ 20090615 23:55:09< Soliton> oh, i know. 20090615 23:55:49< Soliton> Sapient: should a player ever send a [choose] command out-of-turn? 20090615 23:56:39-!- Sirp [n=me@wesnoth/developer/dave] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 23:57:16-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090615 23:58:09< Sapient> no 20090615 23:58:59-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Client Quit] 20090615 23:59:19< Sapient> if you send a [message] to all players that contains an [option], I believe it is only supposed to be visible to the host 20090615 23:59:47< Sapient> some developer added a side_for= attribute 20090615 23:59:54< Sapient> I'm not sure how well it works --- Log closed Tue Jun 16 00:00:14 2009