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20090616 00:00:14< Sapient> but it could have introduced some breakage
20090616 00:00:26< Soliton> ok, i'm just wondering about the server's illegal command checking.
20090616 00:00:37< Sapient> in the past, we saw replay bugs where observers sometimes got the option choice
20090616 00:00:47< Sapient> that caused all sorts of OOS
20090616 00:01:00< Soliton> yeah, i remember.
20090616 00:01:02< Sapient> hopefully it was fixed
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20090616 00:40:09< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36236 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): updated Finnish translation
20090616 00:40:11< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36237 /branches/1.6/ (5 files in 4 dirs): updated Finnish translation
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20090616 00:46:29< grzywacz> http://kolos.math.uni.lodz.pl/~grzywacz/victory.png
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20090616 00:56:47< grzywacz> mordante: in tcontrol, coupling between the number of defined states and size() of canvas (via assertion in load_config()) is kind of troublesome because it forces weird (?) state<->image association on its subclasses
20090616 00:57:10< grzywacz> mordante: I assume canvas is what should be used to store different layers; correct me if I'm wrong
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20090616 01:52:50< grzywacz> ooh, so there are *2* classes named `timage`; that explains my confusion :P
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20090616 01:56:28< CIA-77> soliton * r36238 /branches/1.6/src/server/game.cpp: disallowed out-of-turn advance_unit and choose commands
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20090616 02:56:39< CIA-77> soliton * r36240 /trunk/utils/mp-server/update_server: properly set CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS
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20090616 03:44:23< Sapient> yo
20090616 03:44:39< Blueblaze> hey Sapient
20090616 03:44:44< Blueblaze> just the man I wanted to bug
20090616 03:44:44< Sapient> hi Blueblaze
20090616 03:44:45< Blueblaze> :z
20090616 03:46:19< Blueblaze> Sapient: I'm trying to create a campaign that can be played as a campaign or multiplayer campaign. Is it possible (through macros I suppose?) that I can just have one set of scenarios with the proper setup that will work for both single player and multiplayer campaigns or will I have to have 2 sets of scenarios, one for multiplayer and one for single player. If so, then how should the scenario be set up?
20090616 03:46:55< Sapient> well, I'm sure you could use macros
20090616 03:47:25< Sapient> but multiplayer content has to be inside [multiplayer] 
20090616 03:47:41< Sapient> whereas SP would be in [scenario]
20090616 03:47:43< Blueblaze> but campaign content has to be inside [scenario] right
20090616 03:49:18< Blueblaze> well, is there a way that the content both the scenario and multiplayer scenario share not be duplicated via two different files?
20090616 03:50:06< Sapient> right, it can all be in the same file
20090616 03:50:22< Sapient> there's nothing forcing it to be in seperate files
20090616 03:50:44< Blueblaze> Of course, but is the similar content going to be duplicated regardless?
20090616 03:50:54< CIA-77> soliton * r36241 /trunk/utils/ (8 files): cleaned the utils dir of some obsolete and/or non-functional scripts
20090616 03:51:17< Sapient> I'm fairly certain you can eliminate all duplication through use of a macro
20090616 03:52:03< Sapient> I've never actually written any SP content yet
20090616 03:52:27< Sapient> just contributed to existing code
20090616 03:52:35< Blueblaze> Ahh, I thought I recalled you working on a campaign at an utterly slow pace
20090616 03:52:48< Sapient> well, it's still at the idea phase
20090616 03:53:48< Sapient> I'll probably never finish it
20090616 03:53:50< Blueblaze> Oh okay
20090616 03:54:09< Sapient> because I find MP scenarios more interesting
20090616 03:54:19< Blueblaze> Same
20090616 03:54:25< Blueblaze> I've never published anything single player
20090616 03:54:46< Blueblaze> But I'm working on a campaign that can hopefully appeal to both groups without having to do too much effort to apply it for multiplayer and single player
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20090616 05:13:13< norbert_> hi, not sure whether this is the right channel for this remark/question, but this page is outdated since the example cfg no longer works with .6 http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/BuildingMultiplayer
20090616 05:13:55< norbert_> unfortunately I have no idea how to fix this example, since I wanted to use it to learn how to build MP scenarios/maps
20090616 05:14:48< norbert_> the example gives this error: "A map without a header is not supported"
20090616 05:20:18< norbert_> I've added {{Needs update}}
20090616 05:20:48< norbert_> because I noticed that the following page is also outdated and those example also don't work http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/BuildingMultiplayerExamples
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20090616 08:41:21< euschn> hi
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20090616 09:09:17< euschn> Soliton: I have identified the source revision of bug #13699 you mentioned yesterday, its r36127 (one that I commited). Ill try to fix it
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20090616 09:14:10< YogiHH> hello
20090616 09:16:02< euschn> hi YogiHH 
20090616 09:20:48< Ivanovic> moin
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20090616 11:21:16< euschn> Soliton, YogiHH: I am ready to commit a fix to https://gna.org/bugs/?13699 that I caused in rev 36127, do you want me to close it on gna aswell?
20090616 11:22:18< Soliton> euschn: assign to you and mark as fixed, it'll get closed on release.
20090616 11:22:30< euschn> ok
20090616 11:22:47< Soliton> euschn: and mention bug #123 in the commit message.
20090616 11:23:38< euschn> Soliton: #13699 you mean?
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20090616 11:23:43< Soliton> yes.
20090616 11:26:08< CIA-77> euschn * r36242 /trunk/src/play_controller.cpp: fixed correct update of play_controller.start_turn_ at loading saves (bug #13699)
20090616 11:27:41< YogiHH> ilor, you there?
20090616 11:27:49< ilor> YogiHH yes
20090616 11:28:42< YogiHH> ilor: i get some strange errors on windows in sdl_utils with blurring surfaces, do you experience that, too?
20090616 11:29:02< YogiHH> ilor: looks like there are invalid pointers
20090616 11:29:50< ilor> yes I've had these too
20090616 11:30:07< YogiHH> ilor: any idea where that is coming from?
20090616 11:30:32< ilor> YogiHH: workaround for now is to edit data\gui\default\widget\window_default.cfg, and at the bottom remove the _BLUR thing in one of the _GUI_WINDOW macros
20090616 11:31:05< ilor> YogiHH: I've no idea where this comes from, looks like heap corruption that does not happen on linux for some reason
20090616 11:31:41< YogiHH> ilor: ah, that sounds better than my workaround, which was ignoring pixel_offset, leading to some weird graphics behaviour in the upper left corner ;-)
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20090616 12:09:13-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.6.3 planned for June 21, string freeze on branches/1.6 | 1.7.1 planned for June 28 | 60 bugs, 243 feature requests, 14 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20090616 12:09:46< Soliton> ilor: messaging rooms other than lobby is supposed to work?
20090616 12:11:12< ilor> Soliton: in the very simplified way of using a special command and after you've joined said room
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20090616 12:13:34< Soliton> ilor: i joined a room but then created a game inbetween. when i now try to join again it tells me i'm in it but i get no messages for it.
20090616 12:14:26< Soliton> i've no joined another room and same thing.
20090616 12:14:30< Soliton> now*
20090616 12:14:51< ilor> Soliton: interesting, it should work, so I'll be fixing it today ;)
20090616 12:15:17< Soliton> (messaging lobby works though.)
20090616 12:21:34< ilor> Soliton: I've just tested locally and it works for me, joined a room with two clients, one went to create a game, launch it and quit, messaging through the room worked after that client came back to the lobby
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20090616 12:23:05< Soliton> ilor: with messaging a room i meant /room <name> <message>
20090616 12:23:54< ilor> Soliton: yes precisely, what I tested was: A and B enter server and do /join a; A creates a game with AI, starts it, quits, B does /room a b, A gets the message
20090616 12:24:44< Soliton> ok, no idea then.
20090616 12:26:19< ilor> also tested on the trunk mp server, same deal
20090616 12:27:43< Soliton> well, no need to worry at this stage anyway.
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20090616 12:32:04< mordante> servus
20090616 12:32:44< mordante> grzywacz, I've some ideas how to allow multiple widgets but it will take some time to code and test it, could you commit your work so I can use that to test?
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20090616 12:36:24< mordante> grzywacz, reading the logs and your image looks nice :-)
20090616 12:36:52< mordante> is your solution clean or hacky?
20090616 12:39:21< mordante> Blueblaze Sapient, Mythological did a SP/MP campaign once, you might ask him how he did it
20090616 12:39:41< ilor> off to uni, cu
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20090616 12:40:43< mordante> YogiHH, I haven't found the cause of the blur problem, but I hope to find a solution soon
20090616 12:41:39< mordante> YogiHH, can you post an image with the pixel offset trick, it might give me some clues
20090616 12:42:00< mordante> (altough I think it's a simple off by one error.)
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20090616 13:05:49< YogiHH> mordante: well, i was opting for a quick hack, not for a proper solution, but anyway:
20090616 13:06:12< YogiHH> mordante: this is within sdl_utils::blur_surface
20090616 13:07:30< YogiHH> mordante: it has a local variable named pixel_offset, which in my case when i enter a game is calculated with a surface-width close to my screen resolution width.
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20090616 13:08:16< YogiHH> mordante: Therefore (without understanding this completely), i suspected that the offset is already pointing to the end of the surface memory area, exceeding it when going on further.
20090616 13:08:55< YogiHH> mordante: Probably that is not the original cause, i rather think it might be feeded with wrong rectangle dimensions or something
20090616 13:09:30< YogiHH> mordante: In subsequent pointer manipulations, i simply replaced pixel_offset by pixel_offset * 0
20090616 13:10:48< YogiHH> mordante: That works, but in the upper left corner is a rectangle of about 800*250 pixel, which is showing weird coloured patterns, which partly disappear on redraw
20090616 13:12:28< YogiHH> mordante: this happens ingame and seems to be restricted to this rectangle only. Title screen (which calls blur_surface as well) and the rest of the ingame screen are not affected.
20090616 13:12:53< YogiHH> mordante: not sure if that will help you
20090616 13:15:46< YogiHH> mordante: where can i post images, in the forum?
20090616 13:20:14< mordante> YogiHH, yeah either forum or pastebin
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20090616 13:35:14< YogiHH> mordante: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=362310
20090616 13:36:36< loonycyborg> YogiHH: http://imagebin.org/ is your friend :P
20090616 13:36:50< loonycyborg> Unless you also want to discuss it that is.
20090616 13:37:00< loonycyborg> On the forum that is.
20090616 13:37:47< YogiHH> loonycyborg: i tried, but for some reason it didn't upload the image (without any error message). Maybe i missed something.
20090616 13:39:01< grzywacz> mordante, I didn't manage come up with a working solution
20090616 13:39:12< grzywacz> mordante, can you start with renaming one of timage classes to something else? ;-)
20090616 13:39:50< loonycyborg> Yes. That tfoo thing is getting kinda old :P
20090616 13:40:18< grzywacz> loonycyborg, tfoo is nothing compared to the fact that there are 2 different classes named timage :P
20090616 13:42:37< loonycyborg> YogiHH: Maybe you forgot 'Terms of Service' checkbox or something..
20090616 13:43:32 * YogiHH shrugs
20090616 13:45:02< loonycyborg> Anyway, imagebin's error reporting definitely sucks.
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20090616 14:41:51< CIA-77> euschn * r36243 /trunk/src/play_controller.cpp: simplified previous fix of start_turn_ intialization
20090616 14:51:31< CIA-77> euschn * r36244 /trunk/src/ (play_controller.cpp play_controller.hpp): removed primitve turn members from play_controller
20090616 15:10:59< mordante> thanks YogiHH 
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20090616 15:12:37< mordante> grzywacz, I've no real problem with several classes with the same name, I prefer separation by namespaces/classes instead of overly long names
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20090616 15:21:57< grzywacz> mordante, it's kind of difficult to figure out what each timage is responsible for at the first glance
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20090616 15:54:50< CIA-77> euschn * r36245 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): replaced gamestatus argument by tod_manager in combat_modifier()
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20090616 16:56:58< crimson_penguin> oh boy, June 21 and 27, eh? 21 is an all-day solstice party I plan on going to, and 27 is the day after the 40th anniversary party of the community I live on
20090616 16:57:23< crimson_penguin> 27 should be fine though, and I should be able to do 1.6.3 on the 22nd at least
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20090616 17:15:34< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: ehm, i *won't* do it on the 27th
20090616 17:15:39< Ivanovic> i will do it on the 28th
20090616 17:15:48< crimson_penguin> oh, ok
20090616 17:15:49< Ivanovic> the days i posted are the days of *tagging*, not announcing
20090616 17:16:02< crimson_penguin> oh, well yeah, that's what I figured
20090616 17:16:16< crimson_penguin> but still, it's good to get it up on the tagging day if possible
20090616 17:16:22< Ivanovic> sure
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20090616 17:23:02< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36246 /trunk/po/ (16 files in 11 dirs): updated Lithuanian and Serbian translation
20090616 17:23:04< CIA-77> ivanovic * r36247 /branches/1.6/po/ (14 files in 10 dirs): updated Lithuanian and Serbian translation
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20090616 17:33:39< shadowmaster> is the website down?
20090616 17:34:13< shadowmaster> s/down/under excess load/
20090616 17:36:14< shadowmaster> um, it seems I'm at a faulty network
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20090616 19:03:24< boucman> hey all
20090616 19:03:34< Crab_> hi boucman
20090616 19:04:05< boucman> hey Crab_
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20090616 19:29:17< mordante> servus
20090616 19:30:33< mordante> grzywacz, true but when we use my naming scheme we have even more timage classes ;-)
20090616 19:34:03< grzywacz> mordante, ok, can we assume that I'm too confused by it and you implement the layering function? ;)
20090616 19:34:26< mordante> yes I want to implement it as stacked widgets
20090616 19:34:37< grzywacz> :-)
20090616 19:34:56< mordante> I see no clean solution with the current code, since it _must_ be configurable from WML
20090616 19:35:18< grzywacz> [image] [layer] ?
20090616 19:35:26< grzywacz> But yeah, widgets are probably going to be simpler.
20090616 19:35:41< mordante> but please commit your work once polished so I can use that as test case
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20090616 19:37:15< mordante> both layers need to be accessed from WML which gets tricky with an image, and it's a good reason to use another policy for my template generator class
20090616 19:37:19< grzywacz> mordante, aside from the icon the code should be there
20090616 19:37:30 * mordante loves template metaprogramming
20090616 19:37:34< grzywacz> mordante, that is, dict passed to the campaign selection dialog already contains the completed/not-completed information
20090616 19:38:48< mordante> don't you have it working prototype?
20090616 19:39:10< mordante> what you showed yesterday, was it hacked or working?
20090616 19:40:15< grzywacz> mordante, it was a working prototype, but only to the extend of using a panel instead of a button with label and icon. the one with icon on the right, which is not what it should look like
20090616 19:40:29< grzywacz> mordante, if you mean the icon overlayed on the laurel then it was just a gimp mockup
20090616 19:41:00< mordante> well I need to use a panel as well, so if you can commit that code I can transform it into a final version
20090616 19:41:12< mordante> (and you think my laurel would look better :-P)
20090616 19:41:47< grzywacz> ok
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20090616 19:42:44< mordante> thanks
20090616 19:43:08< grzywacz> When is the next dev release? This weekend?
20090616 19:43:39< stikonas> next weekend, see topic
20090616 19:45:03< grzywacz> ah
20090616 19:45:24< mordante> that's stable, dev a week later
20090616 19:45:30< ilor> yeah, just found out today I'll have another exam in around a week :/
20090616 19:46:16< ilor> this added to the exam I already knew about will make it hard wor me to do much for wesnoth over this weekend
20090616 19:46:50< YogiHH> mordante: i have a suspect regarding the blur problem
20090616 19:47:59< YogiHH> mordante: accessing invalid memory seems to occur exactly at half the processing of y-values. So maybe there is a wrong setting for bits per pixel or something similar that makes the memory too small.
20090616 19:48:42< mordante> ilor :-(
20090616 19:49:04< mordante> brb
20090616 19:49:56< grzywacz> ilor, database exam in access? ;->
20090616 19:50:16< ilor> grzywacz, nah, that was a project, and I'm luckily through it
20090616 19:50:54< ilor> this time it will be distributed systems (which will be one of those exams where you just need to remember tons of stuff)
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20090616 19:51:11< ilor> and functional programming which might get, uh, interesting 
20090616 19:51:23< Dragonking> Hooray, I finished my exams. ^^
20090616 19:51:34< Crab_> Dragonking: congratulations !
20090616 19:51:38< ilor> Dragonking: lucky you 
20090616 19:51:42< Dragonking> Thanks. ;)
20090616 19:53:07< boucman> yay
20090616 19:53:10< boucman> congrat, DK
20090616 19:53:55< CIA-77> mcshark * r36248 /trunk/src/server/room_manager.cpp: Fix compiler warning about "no newline at end of file"
20090616 19:54:05< grzywacz> mordante, I think I reverted my config change, but I'll have it redone in a few minutes :-P
20090616 19:54:10< Dragonking> boucman: Still I have some things left to do but I think I'm going to do something around SoC tomorrow or the day after
20090616 19:55:01< boucman> cool
20090616 19:55:25< boucman> first think will probably discussing plans with me/crab_/sirp I guess
20090616 19:56:07< Dragonking> Sure, I need to sync with source first
20090616 19:56:28< Dragonking> And plan on things before midterm eval
20090616 19:57:17< mordante> congrats Dragonking 
20090616 19:57:27< Dragonking> Thanks. :)
20090616 19:59:11< mordante> YogiHH, I'll have a look at the code
20090616 19:59:27< Ivanovic> hi Dragonking
20090616 19:59:45< YogiHH> mordante: ok, don't hurry because of me, though, i can live with it atm
20090616 19:59:48< Dragonking> hi Ivanovic 
20090616 20:00:23< Ivanovic> good to hear that you got some more time for wesnoth now
20090616 20:00:34< mordante> well I like to fix it soon, since will be not much around this weekend and the week after
20090616 20:00:38< Ivanovic> (and that you are done with your exams for the moment)
20090616 20:01:03< Dragonking> Ivanovic: Yes, I had 2 last weeks really busy with my 4 exams, but it's all over now.
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20090616 20:01:26< Ivanovic> :)
20090616 20:01:53< Dragonking> Now I only need to work a bit more than full-time ;p
20090616 20:02:25< Ivanovic> with other words: the usual stuff
20090616 20:02:26< Ivanovic> ;)
20090616 20:02:29< Soliton> crimson_penguin: http://gna.org/bugs/?13634
20090616 20:02:31< Dragonking> hehe
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20090616 20:04:04< crimson_penguin> Soliton: thanks
20090616 20:04:16< crimson_penguin> hmm, that's... weird
20090616 20:05:40< crimson_penguin> ...this is taking a really long time to load a replay (to test this)
20090616 20:06:53< Soliton> might be rebuilding the cache for one reason or another.
20090616 20:07:03< crimson_penguin> OH, 1.7
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20090616 20:10:19< mordante> YogiHH, ilor I try to find the issue with valgrind tomorrow, then I have access to a faster machine
20090616 20:10:31< crimson_penguin> yeah, it is what ancestral said
20090616 20:10:59< YogiHH> mordante: alright, thanks
20090616 20:11:25< mordante> no problem, I caused the problem in the first place ;-)
20090616 20:11:54< Soliton> crimson_penguin: was the fix ever applied to trunk?
20090616 20:12:07< crimson_penguin> apparently not
20090616 20:13:01< crimson_penguin> the fix I settled on was to just remove Wesnoth's quit key command - it was suggested that replacing it with cmd+w would be better, but I couldn't get that to work for some reason (I'd change it, delete my preferences, and it'd still be cmd+q)
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20090616 20:14:08< crimson_penguin> (the problem is that there's a native Mac keyboard shortcut for quit which is also cmd+q, and it quits immediately, like clicking the close button on the window)
20090616 20:14:31< Soliton> by changing you don't mean from inside wesnoth, right? because then you'd delete your change again...
20090616 20:14:49< crimson_penguin> no, I mean in the default preferences file
20090616 20:15:26< Soliton> and then you reinstalled or did you edit the installed one?
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20090616 20:17:11< crimson_penguin> those two things are kinda the same, in this case... I guess edited the installed one
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20090616 20:17:56< Soliton> ok. well, i can only imagine the file you edited was not read. sounds weird otherwise.
20090616 20:18:02< crimson_penguin> here's what I did: http://codepad.org/dmoFC5Lz
20090616 20:19:01< Soliton> well, i can't test it. :-)
20090616 20:20:01< crimson_penguin> you're right though, it's not there somehow
20090616 20:21:50 * crimson_penguin blames XCode for being really stupid
20090616 20:24:05 * crimson_penguin tests after actually fixing
20090616 20:24:22< crimson_penguin> ok, now it works
20090616 20:24:51< Soliton> :-)
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20090616 20:26:31< crimson_penguin> I can't believe I didn't notice it wasn't actually being copied before though
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20090616 20:29:07< crimson_penguin> is there no branches/1.7?
20090616 20:29:07 * boucman just spent his day at "Le Bourget" air show :)
20090616 20:29:15< crimson_penguin> it's just trunk?
20090616 20:29:34< mordante> yes
20090616 20:29:38 * crimson_penguin doesn't know what that is, but sounds fun
20090616 20:29:43< loonycyborg> crimson_penguin: Yes. 1.7 releases are from trunk.
20090616 20:29:46 * mordante neither
20090616 20:29:49< crimson_penguin> k
20090616 20:30:40 * crimson_penguin is updating, and then he can commit his fix
20090616 20:31:37< CIA-77> mcshark * r36249 /trunk/projectfiles/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update according to recent file changes
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20090616 20:40:54< CIA-77> crimson_penguin * r36250 /trunk/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: Changed quit hotkey to cmd+w on Mac, fixing bug #13634.
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20090616 20:45:09< mordante> hi Blueblaze, I left you a message in the log
20090616 20:47:20< CIA-77> mordante * r36251 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Move gui2::tbuilder_button to its own file.
20090616 20:49:13< CIA-77> crimson_penguin * r36252 /branches/1.6/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: Changed quit shortcut to cmd+w on Mac, to match 1.7.
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20090616 21:03:51< CIA-77> mordante * r36253 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): gui2::tbuilder_image to its own file.
20090616 21:04:40< norbert_> is this also the channel where add-on devs chat?
20090616 21:04:59< norbert_> I'm working on a MP campaign, should I be in #wesnoth or #wesnoth-dev to discuss my work?
20090616 21:05:20< loonycyborg> norbert_: There's #wesnoth-umc-dev for this exact purpose.
20090616 21:05:32< norbert_> ok, great, thanks
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20090616 21:10:20< Blueblaze> mordante: Do you remember what it was called? I know he gave me an MP campaign he worked on but I don't remember it was SP and MP
20090616 21:11:37< mordante> IIRC ElfWar
20090616 21:12:34< Blueblaze> I should have that then, gtg but thanks for reminding me about that, I'll check it out tonight
20090616 21:13:13< mordante> you're welcome, bye
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20090616 21:14:54< CIA-77> mordante * r36254 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): gui2::tbuilder_labbel to its own file.
20090616 21:17:44< YogiHH> Ivanovic: what about the make/configure stuff on *nix for 1.6.2, does that have optimization built in or do you have to specify it explicitly?
20090616 21:20:31< Ivanovic> YogiHH: there are some default optimizations built in
20090616 21:20:38< Ivanovic> though you can easily override them
20090616 21:21:07< Ivanovic> that is: all build systems at least build with -O2 by default (release builds or the like)
20090616 21:21:50< Ivanovic> if you build as debug version you only get -O0
20090616 21:21:50< YogiHH> Ivanovic: norbert says his startup times are taking forever to rebuild the cache and his machine is not *that* slow (2 GB ram and 1.6 GHz cpu)
20090616 21:22:09< Ivanovic> YogiHH: with how many addons?
20090616 21:22:16< Ivanovic> we all know that it takes ages with many addons
20090616 21:22:22< Ivanovic> the same for "damn slow harddrives"
20090616 21:22:46< YogiHH> Ivanovic: ah, that's a good hint indeed
20090616 21:23:24< Ivanovic> and yeah, in laptops with hdds with 4200rpms it can take "a little longer"
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20090616 22:00:51< YogiHH> night everyone
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20090616 22:04:18< CIA-77> mordante * r36255 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): gui2::tbuilder_minimap to its own file.
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20090616 22:06:45< YogiHH> mordante: i think i solved the blur issue
20090616 22:06:53< mordante> cool YogiHH :-)
20090616 22:07:06< mordante> what's the cause?
20090616 22:07:25< YogiHH> mordante: i was using a 16 bit colour depth on my screen and the blur method uses 32 bit pointers
20090616 22:07:39< YogiHH> as soon as i switch to 32 bit depth, wesnoth runs fine
20090616 22:08:05< mordante> which also explains the half height
20090616 22:08:26< mordante> only odd since to old code also assumed 32 bit values...
20090616 22:08:40< mordante> ilor_, which bit depth do you use?
20090616 22:09:13< ilor_> mordante: not sure really, default I guess would be 32
20090616 22:09:46< ilor_> mordante: wtf no, my desktop got switched to 16
20090616 22:09:54< YogiHH> mordante: it should be an issue on other operating systems as well, then?
20090616 22:11:03< mordante> brb
20090616 22:19:00< mordante> hmm I can't switch to 16 bit :-/
20090616 22:20:01< mordante> but a lot of the sdl_utils code assumes 32 bit colour depth, guess that needs a cleanup as well
20090616 22:20:26< mordante> (this isn't the first time it hits us)
20090616 22:21:22< mordante> are the surfaces you create also 16-bit or only the framebuffer surface
20090616 22:21:23< mordante> ?
20090616 22:22:22< YogiHH> mordante: i don't know where those surfaces are created, i only found references to the frame buffer
20090616 22:26:50< mordante> YogiHH, I think I know the solution
20090616 22:28:47< YogiHH> sounds good ;-)
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20090616 22:52:19< mordante> YogiHH, ilor_ can you test this ugly proof-of-concept hack?
20090616 22:54:50< ilor_> mordante: kinda busy but okay
20090616 22:55:31 * YogiHH still looks for the hack...
20090616 22:55:43< mordante> ok otherwise you can test it later, I want to cleanup the patch later
20090616 22:55:51< mordante> YogiHH, http://paste.debian.net/39317/
20090616 22:56:12 * mordante thinks pasting links is hard :-/
20090616 22:56:34 * ilor_ thinks OCaml is a POS
20090616 22:56:34< grzywacz> mordante, old code would convert to "neutral surface" aka "32-bit" first
20090616 22:56:52< mordante> yes that what my patch does as well
20090616 22:57:36< mordante> I only want to test for 32 bit before using the workaround and use the slow way on bit depth != 32
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20090616 23:00:47< YogiHH> mordante: yup, works for me
20090616 23:01:41< YogiHH> good night for real now :-)
20090616 23:01:43< mordante> thanks for confirming YogiHH I'll do a clean patch later this week (or next week)
20090616 23:01:48< mordante> night YogiHH 
20090616 23:01:55< mordante> and I'm also off
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