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20090629 00:00:03< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.nfshost.com/invitespam.png
20090629 00:01:05< shadowmaster> I wish a spambot advertising an auto-kline channel joins theirs
20090629 00:03:44< shadowmaster> um, so this is #wesnoth-dev. Sorry.
20090629 00:09:14-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.1, announcing "soon" | 67 bugs, 234 feature requests, 13 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090629 01:10:39< thespaceinvader> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=26007
20090629 01:11:14< thespaceinvader> regarding this: what is the protocol for committing things like unit description changes?
20090629 01:12:35< shadowmaster> I beleive the whole point of the Writer's forum was collecting contributions to mainline and comitting them once esr approoved
20090629 01:13:19< shadowmaster> since esr has been too busy for that (even before the Iran conflicts started), that hasn't really happened
20090629 01:13:56< esr> shadowmaster: Yes, I've been meaning to allocate more time to that...
20090629 01:14:41< shadowmaster> similarly, I was supposed to get the Pango markup working in storyscreens before 1.7.1. was released *sighs*
20090629 01:14:53< Aethaeryn> Descriptions? I could do some of those.
20090629 01:14:56< Aethaeryn> Is there a to-do list?
20090629 01:15:15< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: why not read that forum first?
20090629 01:15:53< Aethaeryn> The writer's forum must be new.
20090629 01:16:30< shadowmaster> ...
20090629 01:17:23< Aethaeryn> April is new to me, remember :P
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20090629 02:26:00< shadowmasterCL> ... closed the wrong screen.
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20090629 02:43:30< Blueblaze> Did shadowmaster close the wrong screen 50 times?
20090629 02:44:42< shikadibot> nope.
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20090629 02:47:21< shikadibot> talk about privileges scalation.
20090629 02:49:07< shikadibot> the last time wasn't a normal quit, even.
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20090629 02:49:40< shikadibot> the server quitted me instead.
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20090629 02:53:01< imorelle_2> maybe the server enforcer was not sucha good idea forme after all
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20090629 06:05:30< Turuk> esr: If you get a chance, please read my PM
20090629 06:05:48< esr> OK.
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20090629 07:30:25< YogiHH> hello
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20090629 08:32:35< testing_xyz> hi there 
20090629 08:32:44< testing_xyz> any work need to be done ?
20090629 08:34:47< Soliton> bugs.wesnoth.org
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20090629 08:41:44< YogiHH> testing_xyz: Here you will find some information, easy coding might be what you are looking for? http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/DevelopersHome
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20090629 09:08:01< Soliton> zookeeper: key="{non-existant.file_or_macro}"  what's the value of key going to be?
20090629 09:09:44< Soliton> it seems it stays literally the same which is probably confusing.
20090629 09:13:10< zookeeper> should be empty
20090629 09:15:14< Soliton> yeah, problem is this: map_data="{campaigns/Rebellion_During_the_Dark_Age/maps/Haldar's_Camp.map}{~campaigns/Rebellion_During_the_Dark_Age/maps/Haldar's_Camp.map}"  gives an odd error about border_size not being 1 while the map file is fine.
20090629 09:15:38< zookeeper> right
20090629 09:15:40< Soliton> so i guess the first include is left there and messes up the map data.
20090629 09:16:09< zookeeper> i wonder when that bug got introduced
20090629 09:16:15< zookeeper> anyways, yes, it should be empty
20090629 09:16:41< Soliton> you really think it's a new bug?
20090629 09:17:14< zookeeper> yes, it can'
20090629 09:17:19< zookeeper> can't have always been like that
20090629 09:18:10< zookeeper> this is with 1.7, right?
20090629 09:18:17< Soliton> no, 1.6.3
20090629 09:18:23< zookeeper> huh. strange.
20090629 09:18:38< Soliton> according to the author it worked fine in 1.6.2.
20090629 09:19:27< zookeeper> occam says: someone was careless and broke 1.6.3 ;)
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20090629 09:34:02< euschn> hi
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20090629 09:39:58< Crab_> hi
20090629 09:41:25< euschn> hi Crab_ 
20090629 09:41:56< Ivanovic> moin
20090629 09:42:33< YogiHH> euschn: hi, you got my mail on friday?
20090629 09:43:05< euschn> YogiHH: yes thanks, i got it
20090629 09:43:14< euschn> im about to start on it now
20090629 09:43:21< YogiHH> euschn: anything else we need to discuss about it?
20090629 09:43:29< euschn> I dont think so atm
20090629 09:43:32< Crab_> hi euschn. I've wanted to ask you about the savegame stuff. I've added a new way of writing ai config - 'all inside [ai] tag'. So, all I need for saves to work is to modify team_info::to_config to add that tag into [side] when saving  ?
20090629 09:43:37< YogiHH> alright, fine
20090629 09:44:35< Crab_> s/team_info::to_config/team::team_info::write
20090629 09:44:44< euschn> Crab_: yes, or actually you should add it to write()
20090629 09:44:55< Crab_> ok.
20090629 09:45:01< euschn> to_config() is not used yet
20090629 09:45:53< euschn> YogiHH: by the way, replay_savegame does not need any changes, it does not take gamestate.snapshot into account already
20090629 09:46:12< Crab_> the code is able to load both new-style and old-style ai config syntaxes, and I will modify it to always write itself using new style.
20090629 09:46:49< euschn> ok
20090629 09:52:50< YogiHH> euschn: you are right, replay_savegame relies on the (empty) savegame::snapshot member.
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20090629 10:12:19< testing_xyz> what is operating system "F11" 
20090629 10:12:20< testing_xyz> ?
20090629 10:13:00< testing_xyz> i mean which system is operating system "F11" ?
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20090629 10:24:34< Crab_> testing_xyz: Fedora Core 11 ?
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20090629 10:50:33< testing_xyz> isn't Fedora core - FC11
20090629 10:50:41< testing_xyz> ?
20090629 10:51:07< Crab_> yes. but the person can say just "Fedora 11", so F11 is possible as well
20090629 10:51:08< testing_xyz> but again it might be 
20090629 10:51:29< testing_xyz> fedeora 11 
20090629 11:04:18< testing_xyz> *fedora 11
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20090629 11:28:14< Soliton> if it's important you can just ask the reporter.
20090629 11:28:25< Soliton> but i'd guess fedora as well.
20090629 11:29:18< CIA-53> loonycyborg * r36456 /trunk/packaging/windows/Wesnoth.nsi.in: Bumped versnion in the name of userdata dir and removed some cruft in windows installer script.
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20090629 13:50:29< mordante> servus
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20090629 14:54:50< mordante> ilor --new-widgets isn't really documented and the help options says experimental (and it has been there for a long time) so no need to warn about it now
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20090629 14:59:01< mordante> Ivanovic, esr regarding the s/spab/span/ issue there's already a bug report about that this goes wrong badly
20090629 15:00:23< mordante> Crab_, about gui::combo it's the old gui code so I might be able to help you, otherwise you'll need to ask Sapient
20090629 15:01:43< Crab_> mordante: I was trying to ask about the steps necessary for localization of the text in the said combo.
20090629 15:02:58< Crab_> ( I get a list of  values from WML, then construct a std::vector<std::string> of items for gui::combo )
20090629 15:04:17< mordante> have a look at multiplayer_create.cpp starting at line 205 for the MP era list
20090629 15:05:47< Crab_> mordante: ok. thanks. so, it seems that standard WML internationalization is enough, nothing special to do from c++ side.
20090629 15:06:11< mordante> no problem
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20090629 16:07:20< euschn> exit
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20090629 16:14:07< Ivanovic> hi
20090629 16:30:27< testing_xyz> hi
20090629 16:44:09< mordante> I'm off bye
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20090629 16:49:58< CIA-53> cornmander * r36457 /website/stats.wesnoth.org/wesstats/controllers/root.py: changed several print statements to use a logger instead
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20090629 17:17:29< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: don't forget to announce ;)
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20090629 17:36:06< zookeeper> download links for a couple of the last ones don't seem to be working: http://www.wesnoth.org/addons/trunk/
20090629 17:36:43< zookeeper> (nothing after world conquest to be specific)
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20090629 18:03:00< Soliton> fixed.
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20090629 18:37:03< CIA-53> soliton * r36460 /branches/1.6/data/tools/wesnoth_addon_manager: fixed the tar command
20090629 18:37:22< CIA-53> soliton * r36461 /branches/1.6/data/tools/wesnoth/campaignserver_client.py: made verbose output readable
20090629 18:37:27< CIA-53> soliton * r36462 /branches/1.6/data/lan_server.cfg: made it clear that the lan server accepts any version and tried to clarify the implications of that
20090629 18:38:59< CIA-53> soliton * r36463 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth_addon_manager: fixed the tar command
20090629 18:39:03< CIA-53> soliton * r36464 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/campaignserver_client.py: made verbose output readable
20090629 18:39:06< CIA-53> soliton * r36465 /trunk/data/lan_server.cfg: made it clear that the lan server accepts any version and tried to clarify the implications of that
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20090629 18:46:42< testing_xyz> hey 
20090629 18:46:46< testing_xyz> what's up
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20090629 19:03:03< Soliton> someone with 1.6.2 around?
20090629 19:03:35< grzywacz> hi
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20090629 19:21:05< boucman> hey all
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20090629 19:31:20< Polarina> Soliton: Yes, why?
20090629 19:31:23< boucman> hey Crab_
20090629 19:31:31< Crab_> hi boucman
20090629 19:34:06< testing_xyz> i am with 1.7.0
20090629 19:37:12< boucman> Ivanovic: in case you hadn't seen yet : http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=364355#p364355
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20090629 19:42:03< Ivanovic> cool, i have not seen that we got some (official) fedora packager
20090629 19:42:03< testing_xyz> what is this WML language ? some kind of a new language ? 
20090629 19:42:23< grzywacz> no, it's old
20090629 19:42:28< boucman> testing_xyz: it's the language used to describe wesnoth scenarios since... forever
20090629 19:42:43< testing_xyz> hmm
20090629 19:43:06< Crab_> testing_xyz: yes, WML is  wesnoth-specific language for writing various config files.
20090629 19:43:20< testing_xyz> config files ?
20090629 19:43:30< grzywacz> testing_xyz, http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/ReferenceWML
20090629 19:43:33< Soliton> Polarina: can you check with some add-on and replace a map_data="{~the.map}" key with map_data="{the.map}{~the.map}" and see if that gives you an error?
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20090629 19:43:49< testing_xyz> i mean wesnoth is written in c++
20090629 19:43:52< Crab_> testing_xyz: such as scenarios, maps, units and their abilities, etc..
20090629 19:44:02< testing_xyz> and config files written in WML 
20090629 19:44:07< testing_xyz> wth ?
20090629 19:44:42< testing_xyz> but it is good to have WML after all makes things simplier 
20090629 19:47:06< Polarina> Soliton: Wait, what?
20090629 19:47:13< Polarina> Soliton: Haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
20090629 19:47:46< Soliton> ok.
20090629 19:49:10< Polarina> Soliton: Care to explain?
20090629 19:50:30< Ivanovic> okay, added the fedora packager to my list of packagers
20090629 19:57:35< Soliton> looks like r35988 broke include parsing.
20090629 19:58:06< Soliton> with that reverted invalid includes are just ignored like it should be.
20090629 19:58:37< Soliton> without it causes things like map_data="{the.map}{~the.map} to fail.
20090629 20:09:02< Soliton> Ivanovic: plain revertion of the above or better a fix should definitely go into 1.6.4.
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20090629 20:22:07< Polarina> What the?
20090629 20:22:09< Polarina> polarina@debian:~/projects/branches/1.6$ svn update
20090629 20:22:09< Polarina> svn: Malformed network data
20090629 20:22:54< Soliton> switch to a different protocol and try again.
20090629 20:23:03< Polarina> What protocol?
20090629 20:23:33< Soliton> the one you're not using currently.
20090629 20:23:56< Polarina> I am using http://, svn:// doesn't work anymore.
20090629 20:24:07< Soliton> then switch to svn.
20090629 20:24:17< Polarina> I get connection errors with that.
20090629 20:24:28< Soliton> then give up.
20090629 20:25:12< Polarina> :(
20090629 20:26:33< boucman> Polarina: it hapens to me from time to time, try svn clean
20090629 20:26:46< boucman> and if that doesn't work wait a little, the problem tends to fix itself
20090629 20:27:00< Polarina> polarina@debian:~/projects/branches/1.6$ svn clean
20090629 20:27:00< Polarina> Unknown command: 'clean'
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20090629 20:27:16< boucman> svn cleanup
20090629 20:28:03< Polarina> It works now, thanks.
20090629 20:28:34< CIA-53> loonycyborg * r36466 /trunk/packaging/windows/Wesnoth.nsi.in: Made windows installer write uninstall information so Wesnoth will appear in Add/Remove Programs.
20090629 20:44:16< Ivanovic> Soliton: please post a bugreport for this and mark it blocker
20090629 20:44:30< Soliton> Ivanovic: i'm about to.
20090629 20:45:00< Ivanovic> and assign to silene
20090629 20:58:09< CIA-53> ivanovic * r36467 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth/fi.po): updated Finnish translation
20090629 20:58:11< CIA-53> ivanovic * r36468 /branches/1.6/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth/fi.po): updated Finnish translation
20090629 21:00:10< Polarina> Why is there no rule on which gets commited first; branch or trunk?
20090629 21:00:38< boucman> because, if you intend to commit both, it doesn't really matter,
20090629 21:13:37< Ivanovic> Soliton: the mp server for 1.7.1 is ready?
20090629 21:14:07< Soliton> probably not.
20090629 21:14:31< Aethaeryn> which revision is 1.7.1?
20090629 21:15:13< Ivanovic> 36450
20090629 21:16:41< Aethaeryn> ty
20090629 21:16:49< Soliton> Ivanovic: all binaries are out?
20090629 21:16:58< Aethaeryn> I'm going "backwards" a bit in SVN so I can see the new release
20090629 21:16:59< Ivanovic> mac and windows are out
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20090629 21:20:17< Ivanovic> announcement: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26045
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20090629 21:25:48< Ivanovic> updated the frontpage, too
20090629 21:25:54-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 67 bugs, 234 feature requests, 13 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20090629 21:26:15< silene> hi
20090629 21:26:39< boucman> hey silene
20090629 21:27:18< Aethaeryn> "Since you don't read what I write here anyway, better have a look at this forum thread if you want to learn something about the new 1.7.1 release."
20090629 21:27:21< Aethaeryn> lol
20090629 21:29:49< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Hm.. The link on front page 1.7.1 news item seems to point to 1.7.0 forum announcement.
20090629 21:31:53< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: fixed
20090629 21:32:28< Ivanovic> silene: would be nice if you could take care of this one before sunday: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?13815
20090629 21:32:56< silene> Ivanovic: already done
20090629 21:33:07< Ivanovic> great
20090629 21:33:10< silene> in the sense that i definitely won't fix it
20090629 21:33:17< Ivanovic> outsch
20090629 21:33:20< silene> see my comment in the report
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20090629 21:34:49< loonycyborg> Man! That bug suddenly turned into minor from a blocker. What a spectacular fall :P
20090629 21:36:12< Soliton> "{@filename} is a convenient way to make Wesnoth look for a file by that name in both the main and the user data directory. It is equivalent to writing {filename}{~filename}." this part of the preprocessor documentation needs to be changed then.
20090629 21:39:25< Aethaeryn> I know this is the older version in the changelog, but: "Language and translations: The term 'stoned' has been replaced with 'petrified'; also the related verb." I can imagine some interesting mistranslations for the old term.
20090629 21:40:57< boucman> Aethaeryn: I don't want to disapoint you, but translators tend to know the litteral meaning, not the drug related one, so very few mistranslations :)
20090629 21:41:12< Soliton> silene: why is it not possible to have meaningful error message and still have "conditional" includes work?
20090629 21:42:53< silene> Soliton: try putting +{dummy} inside a wml file, load it with an old wesnoth, and you should get what the issue
20090629 21:44:07< Aethaeryn> 3 games in 1.7.1 already?
20090629 21:44:42< grzywacz> Already? That server is usually empty when I happen to join.
20090629 21:45:09< Aethaeryn> exactly
20090629 21:45:36< Rrenys> & those who are there, are mostly newbs who havent tried the stable version
20090629 21:48:15< CIA-53> crimson_penguin * r36469 /trunk/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: Changed preferences hotkey on Mac to the standard cmd+comma from cmd+p.
20090629 21:49:08< Aethaeryn> Rrenys: a far cry from when 1.3 had the good players and 1.2 the newbs
20090629 21:49:09< Soliton> silene: i get "Unexpected characters at line start" with correct line numbers not sure what that's supposed to tell me.
20090629 21:51:08< silene> Soliton: obviously, as you are not supposed to start a line with +; try it in a more wml-like example, e.g. [taga]\n[tagb]\nfield="test"+{dummy}\n[/tagb]\n[/taga]
20090629 21:52:44< CIA-53> crimson_penguin * r36470 /branches/1.6/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: Changed preferences hotkey on Mac to the standard cmd+comma from cmd+p.
20090629 21:53:03< Rrenys> Aethaeryn, i dont remember but id still bet the first versions of 1.3 were just like this.
20090629 21:54:19< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: I believe you have told us the same thing every day lately ;)
20090629 21:54:32< Aethaeryn> lol
20090629 21:54:45< Aethaeryn> I do recall mentioning it before, but I couldn't resist
20090629 21:55:56< Soliton> silene: doesn't seem worth breaking existing WML to me. *shrug*
20090629 22:03:09< Soliton> silene: so, why not mark the bug report as won't fix then? severity was set as blocker because it should get resolved before the next release. downgrading severity without anything else serves no purpose.
20090629 22:04:02< silene> done
20090629 22:05:10< Soliton> alright. what about the documentation part i posted? just remove it? we don't have {@} in trunk anymore anyway afair.
20090629 22:06:51< Soliton> though in cases where you don't assign the included stuff to a key it still works, i suppose.
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20090629 22:09:38< silene> Soliton: where is this documentation?
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20090629 22:10:17< Soliton> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/PreprocessorRef
20090629 22:10:57< silene> thanks
20090629 22:14:47< Soliton> no problem.
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20090629 22:45:06< Soliton> "new char[len]" len should be an unsigned int rather than signed, yes?
20090629 22:45:20< Soliton> or size_t or whatever.
20090629 22:50:44< silene> technically, it doesn't have to, it can be any integer type, including signed ones; but it surely is an error to pass a negative value
20090629 22:51:54< Soliton> ok, i think the server aborts with bad alloc there when getting a negative value.
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20090629 23:01:24< CIA-53> soliton * r36471 /branches/1.6/src/server/simple_wml.cpp: used unsigned types for memory allocation
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20090629 23:04:22< CIA-53> soliton * r36472 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: 
20090629 23:04:22< CIA-53> Revert "Prevented comments embedded between macro brackets from producing spurious newline characters."
20090629 23:04:22< CIA-53> This reverts commit 07a6969872299719e498991517a4f48797190d91.
20090629 23:04:30< CIA-53> soliton * r36473 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: 
20090629 23:04:30< CIA-53> Revert "Delayed substitution of macro arguments so that they are preprocessed only once. (Fix bug #13606.)"
20090629 23:04:30< CIA-53> This reverts commit c511edeab32970e08eb3d088192594dc87263ac2.
20090629 23:04:36< CIA-53> soliton * r36474 /trunk/src/server/simple_wml.cpp: used unsigned types for memory allocation
20090629 23:04:36< Soliton> argh
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20090629 23:05:11< shadowmaster> argh == forgot to edit the commit messages?
20090629 23:05:26< Soliton> forgot to revert the reverts...
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20090629 23:07:29< CIA-53> soliton * r36475 /trunk/src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: re-apply accidentally reverted commits
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20090629 23:38:25< noy> Ivanovic: did you receive my letter draft?
20090629 23:39:23< Ivanovic> noy: jupp
20090629 23:39:44< noy> Ivanovic: if you want to send that yourself, in your name, do it
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