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Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20090701 00:14:35-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit ["Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"] 20090701 00:15:02-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 00:37:17-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 00:48:05-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 00:52:28< noy> Ivanovic: still up? 20090701 00:52:38< Ivanovic> noy: basically on my way off to bed 20090701 00:52:46< noy> did you get leslie's email? 20090701 00:52:51< Ivanovic> yes 20090701 00:53:10< noy> lets take this conversation into mentor 20090701 00:53:10< noy> (quickly) 20090701 01:04:06-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090701 01:09:31-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20090701 01:15:39-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090701 01:16:16-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 01:16:33< CIA-51> dragonking * r36485 /trunk/data/ai/dev/formula_ai_poisoning.cfg: Poison formula update 20090701 01:20:10< Ivanovic> n8 20090701 01:47:05-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [] 20090701 01:47:24-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit ["night all"] 20090701 01:56:51-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9bee744.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 02:04:01-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9bef5cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 02:05:28-!- crimson_p [n=irchon@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 02:06:51-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@68.55.19.224] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 02:06:57-!- crimson_p [n=irchon@64.201.60.211] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 02:13:42< CIA-51> crab * r36486 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): AI Refactoring: reworked event system to allow cheap invalidation and on-demand initialization of move maps after gamestate changes 20090701 02:15:15-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090701 02:22:08-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090701 02:36:31-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@98.199.143.139] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 02:55:41-!- Sapient [n=patrickp@wesnoth/developer/sapient] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090701 03:04:31-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 03:21:00-!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 03:25:59< CIA-51> dragonking * r36487 /trunk/src/formula.cpp: Fixed 'where' formula keyword bug 20090701 03:40:34-!- Dragonking [n=dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [] 20090701 03:49:34-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20090701 04:30:25-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@98.199.143.139] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 04:52:24-!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db2a58e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 04:59:33-!- Rexozord [n=Rexozord@adsl-64-219-21-17.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090701 05:08:13-!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 05:08:22-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20090701 05:13:21-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@98.199.143.139] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 05:54:37-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 06:08:38-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9bef5cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 06:09:14-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 71 bugs, 235 feature requests, 13 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! 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VC9 does not like a class A { sometype A; }; construct. 20090701 11:31:29< CIA-51> ilor * r36492 /trunk/src/server/ (room.cpp room.hpp room_manager.cpp): extend server room class a bit, for future use 20090701 12:00:15-!- Crab_ [n=Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 12:00:58< Crab_> ilor: hello 20090701 12:01:30< ilor> hi Crab_, just wanted you to notice r36491 so you don't get surprised ;) 20090701 12:02:40< Crab_> oh, another funny VC9 glitch :) 20090701 12:02:43< Crab_> ok, thanks 20090701 12:03:17< ilor> Crab_: well, gcc would fail if you tried to add an actual ctor 20090701 12:08:19< Soliton> esr: any reason why you marked https://gna.org/bugs/?13806 as need info? 20090701 12:09:14-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 70 bugs, 235 feature requests, 13 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! 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I can reproduce it, will have a look at it 20090701 13:25:37-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 13:29:12< stikonas> euschn: ok, thanks 20090701 14:02:47-!- Crab_ [n=Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 14:18:39-!- Polarina1 is now known as Polarina 20090701 14:28:46-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/"] 20090701 14:29:11-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 14:56:14-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090701 15:06:13-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20090701 15:11:59-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 15:12:04-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 15:17:23-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 15:23:19< CIA-51> euschn * r36495 /trunk/src/ (playsingle_controller.cpp team.cpp): updated team persistency to be consistent with player_info entries 20090701 15:30:23-!- Sapient [n=patrickp@wesnoth/developer/sapient] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 15:45:51-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090701 15:56:25-!- Crab_ [n=Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090701 15:57:39-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 16:03:37-!- euschn [n=chatzill@wesnoth/developer/euschn] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042523]"] 20090701 16:19:12-!- _jbx_ [n=jbailey@38.115.182.4] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 16:43:40-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 16:52:08< Soliton> zookeeper: does music need to be in a music/ dir? 20090701 16:55:44< zookeeper> Soliton, yes 20090701 16:56:57< Soliton> hrm, still not working. 20090701 16:57:43< Soliton> there is a [binary_path] path=data/campaigns/LTD_Music and the oggs are now under music/ there. 20090701 16:58:14< Soliton> still i get "error audio: Could not open track 'calm-before-storm.ogg', disabling for this playlist". 20090701 17:02:12< Soliton> looks like the path needs to include the final '/'... 20090701 17:02:32-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 17:02:39< zookeeper> sounds odd. 20090701 17:03:22< Soliton> yeah, still not working there probably was some mainline music that worked just now. 20090701 17:03:59< Soliton> so.. what's wrong? 20090701 17:04:26< Soliton> oops. 20090701 17:05:13-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 17:06:21< Soliton> ok, works when i copy the music to the right place. 20090701 17:07:09< Soliton> so, we still have these implicit paths appended at various places or just for music? 20090701 17:07:55< Soliton> it'd be nice to at least look at the actual given location and under music/. 20090701 17:08:23< Soliton> not that i looked at the reference on how music playing works... :-P 20090701 17:12:23< esr> Solitin: I marked 13806 as need info because it seemed to need info. That's the usual reason, after all. 20090701 17:12:41< Soliton> well, i don't see how you came to that conclusion. 20090701 17:12:59< esr> Let me look atr it. 20090701 17:13:07< Soliton> there was no question asked of the reporter or anything. 20090701 17:13:48< Soliton> surely more info would be nice to actually solve the issue but no one knows what that info is like usual... 20090701 17:13:48< zookeeper> Soliton, there are still implicit paths everywhere 20090701 17:14:05< zookeeper> it was just the images/implicitpaths which we tried to get rid of 20090701 17:14:13< esr> Yes, it was "anything can happen with OOS no point in analyzing it when you don't do it strictly chronologically. " 20090701 17:14:21< zookeeper> there's still images/, sounds/, music/ 20090701 17:14:58< Soliton> esr: well, as you can see further below i did a strict chronological analysis. 20090701 17:15:23< Soliton> zookeeper: ok, any plans to get rid of them or is it considered a good idea? 20090701 17:15:52< zookeeper> Soliton, i think it's a great idea. would you like to prefix every image path with images/? 20090701 17:16:12-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090701 17:16:15< zookeeper> it makes sense for music and sounds too. IMO it was only the images/subdirs stuff that was silly. 20090701 17:16:18< Soliton> seems clearer to me, yeah. 20090701 17:16:47< Soliton> but sure, usually you have the data in such a dir, i guess. 20090701 17:17:33< zookeeper> i don't see why you'd ever not 20090701 17:18:27< Soliton> when you make a music add-on apparently, see LTD_Music. :-) 20090701 17:18:54< Soliton> i would have thought the author made it in a ready to use way but... 20090701 17:20:23< zookeeper> i thought the point of the add-on was to act as an extra music pack for a certain campaign 20090701 17:20:57< zookeeper> oh gee. i guess not. 20090701 17:21:05< Soliton> yeah, but the instructions say to copy the music. :-P 20090701 17:21:19< zookeeper> well, the author is a noob. anything else? 20090701 17:21:24< Soliton> nope. 20090701 17:21:34< zookeeper> case closed! 20090701 17:22:50< zookeeper> i guess he also still hasn't realized that he uploaded the campaign to the 1.5 server and the music pack to 1.6. 20090701 17:23:28< Soliton> hmm, so he might be gone then.. 20090701 17:24:05< Soliton> i'll tell the Huston guy he can take over maintainance of the music pack if he wants then, i guess. 20090701 17:24:16< zookeeper> sounds fine 20090701 17:30:41-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 17:47:42-!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: _jbx_, isaac 20090701 17:48:06-!- Netsplit over, joins: _jbx_, isaac 20090701 17:57:26-!- busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 17:59:21-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.136.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:00:15-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.136.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:05:52-!- PK [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:07:41-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:07:55-!- Noyga is now known as Aybabtu\Avnoh 20090701 18:09:14-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 69 bugs, 235 feature requests, 11 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20090701 18:12:02-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:19:28< esr> zookeeper: I have a very, very old to-do item: "get rid of implicit paths in WML". 20090701 18:23:10< Soliton> hi allefant 20090701 18:25:06< allefant> hi Soliton 20090701 18:26:16-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:26:46-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090701 18:30:14< Soliton> allefant: any idea why this page doesn't show the correct movetype? http://www.wesnoth.org/units/1.6/C/BM%20Naga%20Abomination.html 20090701 18:31:21< allefant> hm 20090701 18:31:30< allefant> probably it's derived from another unit 20090701 18:31:40< allefant> in which addon is this unit? 20090701 18:31:52< Soliton> BEEM 20090701 18:32:14< Soliton> it's a complete unit with movement_type naga. 20090701 18:38:47< allefant> hm, i forgot how to use wmlunits 20090701 18:39:03< allefant> what path do i give to -u? 20090701 18:39:05< zookeeper> esr, there's nothing to get rid of anymore, unless there's some implicit image paths remaining. 20090701 18:40:37< esr> zookeeper: Some filename contexts implicitly prepend images/, I believe. 20090701 18:41:25< Soliton> allefant: the one where campaigns/ is in. 20090701 18:41:55< Soliton> allefant: i usually just make a recursive symlink where i have my add-ons. 20090701 18:42:07< allefant> i did: 20090701 18:42:09< allefant> mkdir tmp 20090701 18:42:13< allefant> cd tmp 20090701 18:42:18< allefant> tar xjf BEEM.tar.bz2 20090701 18:42:35< Soliton> ln -s . campaigns 20090701 18:43:01< zookeeper> esr, we don't want to get rid of that 20090701 18:43:18< zookeeper> you never use anything but images as image paths, and all images are in images/ anyway. 20090701 18:43:26< allefant> Soliton: does it matter that I use the wmlunits from trunk? 20090701 18:43:37< zookeeper> so it'd just result in pointless extra typing for no benefit whatsoever AFAICT. 20090701 18:43:46< Soliton> allefant: probably, some things already changed. 20090701 18:43:53< allefant> ok, let me get 1.6 20090701 18:43:59< Soliton> allefant: trunk will look for add-ons/ 20090701 18:44:33< Soliton> and just "ln -s . add-ons" is not enough. 20090701 18:44:57< allefant> it always amazes me how much works is done on wesnoth 20090701 18:45:06< allefant> don't svn up for a few weeks and there's 1000ds of changes :) 20090701 18:47:07< Soliton> "why don't you devs make a new key for pbl files called: forumname=" sounds like a good idea to me. 20090701 18:47:28< Soliton> since the maintainer is not always mentioned in the author field. 20090701 18:48:05< Soliton> shadowmaster, zookeeper: ^ 20090701 18:48:56< zookeeper> humm. 20090701 18:49:23< Soliton> and forumname could be openly displayd unlike the email address. 20090701 18:49:40< allefant> wow, wmlunits eats a lot of CPU 20090701 18:49:57< zookeeper> you mean for linking to the forum thread for the add-on? sure, fine. but really i think that'd kinda require you to be able to click on the link and have it open in your browser... 20090701 18:51:05< Soliton> no, i mean the forum nick of the maintainer. 20090701 18:51:11< zookeeper> oh, right. 20090701 18:51:12< Soliton> so you can PM him with questions. 20090701 18:51:32< Soliton> having a specific field for the thread url might be nice as well though. 20090701 18:51:59< Soliton> all of that can of course be put in the description or so... 20090701 18:52:00< zookeeper> rather i'd have support for displaying more than the current x characters of the author field 20090701 18:53:03< zookeeper> anyways, i'm not against that proposal, just wondering whether there'd be a better solution 20090701 18:53:31< Soliton> well, the example is about the music pack where the author is "Various" and the maintainer does not really belong in there. 20090701 18:54:50< Soliton> i suppose it's not too useful since we can't make it mandatory.. 20090701 18:55:14< Soliton> and if someone really wants to provide the info he can use the description. 20090701 18:55:34< Soliton> still might be nice. 20090701 18:56:34< Soliton> allefant: http://www.wesnoth.org/cgi-bin/collection3/bin/index.cgi?hostname=wesnoth.wesnoth.org&plugin=cpu&plugin=load×pan=2678400&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK the spikes every day are from wmlunits (though the last days there was also another bg process). ;-) 20090701 18:57:16-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 18:57:31< Soliton> allefant: if it's not easy to generally speed wmlunits up it might be nice to be able to disable translations for add-ons or so. 20090701 18:57:38< allefant> here it started 1000 "convert" processes at once 20090701 18:57:47< allefant> to colorize the pictures 20090701 18:57:54< Soliton> ah, i might have changed that. 20090701 18:57:58< allefant> almost brought my computer to a halt :P 20090701 18:58:18< Soliton> i converted from os.system (really bad idea) to subprocess. 20090701 18:58:22-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit] 20090701 18:58:31< allefant> i see 20090701 18:58:50< Soliton> might have to change it so it waits for the process to finish. 20090701 18:58:51< allefant> yeah, so it can convert them in parallel now on multi-CPU machines :) 20090701 18:59:10< Soliton> yeah, wasn't really intentional though. :-P 20090701 18:59:47< allefant> it does that only once though, not for each language 20090701 18:59:57< Soliton> indeed. 20090701 19:00:16< Soliton> the add-on parsing takes huge amounts of time though. 20090701 19:00:27< allefant> yeah 20090701 19:00:42< allefant> to parse an addon, all of the core WML has to be re-parsed as well 20090701 19:02:01< Soliton> Parsing addons ... 2838 units found. ;-) 20090701 19:03:05< Soliton> ah there is also a "Warning: No race "naga" found (BM Naga Abomination)." in the log. 20090701 19:03:18< Soliton> so it is not parsing the core WML then? 20090701 19:03:35< Soliton> or forgot about the movetypes. 20090701 19:03:47< Soliton> i mean it could just cache them, no? 20090701 19:04:07< allefant> just trying to figure that out 20090701 19:07:44< allefant> hm, yeah, it's actually only parsing some selective core WML before parsing addons 20090701 19:12:46-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 19:12:56< CIA-51> loonycyborg * r36496 /trunk/src/gamestatus.cpp: Fixed a compile error on mingw. 20090701 19:17:00-!- Aybabtu\Avnoh [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has quit ["Quitte"] 20090701 19:19:26-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 19:21:16< CIA-51> elias * r36497 /branches/1.6/data/tools/wmlunits: [wmlunits] Parse mainline units before addon units, so all the races and stuff is defined. 20090701 19:22:19< CIA-51> elias * r36498 /trunk/data/tools/wmlunits: Applied svn revision #36497 from 1.6 to trunk. 20090701 19:22:28< allefant> Soliton: seems it was easy to fix 20090701 19:22:43< Soliton> :-/ 20090701 19:23:06< allefant> unless there was a reason to parse addons first... 20090701 19:23:16< Soliton> yes. ;-) 20090701 19:23:20< Soliton> now add-ons can again overwrite mainline stuff. 20090701 19:23:24< allefant> oh 20090701 19:23:25< allefant> heh 20090701 19:23:34< allefant> bah 20090701 19:23:49< Soliton> maybe it's easy to protect against that? 20090701 19:23:55< allefant> are there still addons who do that? 20090701 19:24:05< Soliton> yes, pretty sure there are. 20090701 19:24:11< allefant> we could just send a mail to all addons authors for which it is discovered 20090701 19:24:19< allefant> and ask them to change their unit ids 20090701 19:24:26< Soliton> i'd like low maintainance overhead... 20090701 19:24:55< allefant> anyway, i know now again how it works 20090701 19:25:03< allefant> so WML actually isn't re-parsed 20090701 19:25:14< Soliton> right, ok. 20090701 19:25:33< allefant> just each addon is added one after the other, creating a huge WML tree :) 20090701 19:26:08< Soliton> i think the best solution would be not to allow overwriting of already existing units. 20090701 19:26:30< allefant> can add that 20090701 19:29:25-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/"] 20090701 19:29:53-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 19:29:53< allefant> there's also some other problem still as it can't find the addon races (like "lavinian") 20090701 19:30:06-!- PK [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"] 20090701 19:31:22< Soliton> different parse order? 20090701 19:31:48< Soliton> though i'd think the python parser should do it like wesnoth. 20090701 19:32:22< Soliton> wesnoth might not care what's parsed first though, not sure. 20090701 19:32:56< Soliton> yeah, BEEM includes the movetypes after the units. 20090701 19:35:47< Sapient> that is probably the least of BEEM's crimes 20090701 19:36:07< Sapient> the greatest being called 'Balanced' ;) 20090701 19:36:25-!- YogiHH [n=chatzill@d095213.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 19:36:25< allefant> heh 20090701 19:36:34< YogiHH> hello 20090701 19:36:35< allefant> shouldn't matter when the movetypes are defined 20090701 19:36:38< Soliton> well, it's more of a goal then a statement of current affairs, i guess. ;-) 20090701 19:37:06< Soliton> allefant: ok, then no idea why it wouldn't work. 20090701 19:45:55< allefant> ah, figured it out 20090701 19:46:13< allefant> it uses "name=" instead of "id=" to name the race 20090701 19:46:58< allefant> if those units have the correct race in the game, then i assume name= is allowed as synonym 20090701 19:48:22< boucman> hey all 20090701 19:49:42< YogiHH> hi boucman 20090701 19:49:50-!- ABCD_ is now known as ABCD 20090701 19:51:15< Soliton> allefant: yeah, IE works fine. 20090701 19:52:29< allefant> ok, allowing "name" as synonym to "id" 20090701 19:55:14< Soliton> can anyone reproduce bug #13839 or #13840? 20090701 19:58:54< Sapient> wesbot: bug 13839 20090701 19:58:55< wesbot> Bug #13839 Assigned to: None Status: None Priority: 5 - Normal 20090701 19:58:55< wesbot> Summary: unreadable Help - Contributors 20090701 19:58:55< wesbot> Original submission: Clicking the Contributors in the in game help takes quite 20090701 19:58:58< wesbot> a lot of time (7 sec. in my case) and which is worse: after the page is loaded, 20090701 19:59:01< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?13839 20090701 19:59:04< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=6100 20090701 20:00:24< CIA-51> elias * r36499 /branches/1.6/data/tools/unit_tree/helpers.py: 20090701 20:00:24< CIA-51> [wmlunits] 20090701 20:00:24< CIA-51> - Don't allow units with the same id (instead of overwriting they are ignored now). 20090701 20:00:24< CIA-51> - All the use of name= instead of id= inside [race]. 20090701 20:01:31< Sapient> wesbot: bug 13840 20090701 20:01:32< wesbot> Bug #13840 Assigned to: None Status: Works For Me Priority: 5 - Normal 20090701 20:01:35< wesbot> Summary: Concealment description bug 20090701 20:01:38< wesbot> Original submission: In the in-game help (Help - Abilities - concealment) ther 20090701 20:01:41< wesbot> e is: 20090701 20:01:44< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?13840 20090701 20:01:49< Soliton> thanks allefant. 20090701 20:05:11< CIA-51> elias * r36500 /trunk/data/tools/unit_tree/helpers.py: [wmlunits] Applied revision #36499 from 1.6 to trunk. 20090701 20:05:25-!- allefant is now known as elias 20090701 20:05:47< elias> heh, wasn't in irc for so long i didn't even notice i have the wrong name 20090701 20:07:12< elias> shadowmaster: wesbot tells me you were looking for me a week ago :) 20090701 20:11:08-!- PK [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 20:15:37< YogiHH> wesbot: seen mordante 20090701 20:15:38< wesbot> YogiHH: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 2d 3h ago. 2d 3h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: "Leaving" 20090701 20:16:13-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 20:19:36-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 20:24:39< YogiHH> ilor: do you know if there is a reasonable widget for a two column listbox (listbox is only suited for one column atm)? 20090701 20:24:58< YogiHH> ilor: speaking of gui2 20090701 20:25:03< ilor> YogiHH: not really 20090701 20:25:22-!- PK [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"] 20090701 20:25:32< ilor> I wish Mordante shows up today 20090701 20:25:54< YogiHH> yeah 20090701 20:32:50-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 20:50:50-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 20:51:41-!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 20:57:43-!- euschn [n=chatzill@wesnoth/developer/euschn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 20:57:46< euschn> hi 20090701 20:57:52< YogiHH> hi euschn 20090701 21:08:37-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:08:46< silene> hi 20090701 21:10:07< AnMaster> prediction: all three current build systems will still be there one year from now. 20090701 21:12:31< boucman> AnMaster: :) 20090701 21:12:44-!- kitty_ [n=kitty@wesnoth/artist/kitty] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:12:52< AnMaster> boucman, I use cmake of course though :P 20090701 21:12:57< kitty_> hi 20090701 21:13:00< boucman> hey kitty_ 20090701 21:13:21< boucman> wesnoth proverb : when kitty_ comes online, you should check the forum for new art :P 20090701 21:13:37< kitty_> uh -no, not at all, this time... sorry 20090701 21:13:43< boucman> oh :P 20090701 21:14:39-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:14:39< Sapient> heeey kitty 20090701 21:14:45< boucman> hey Crab_ 20090701 21:14:49< Sapient> love the new footpad 20090701 21:14:53< Crab_> hi boucman 20090701 21:14:54< boucman> I was thinking of something... 20090701 21:15:00< Crab_> yes ? 20090701 21:15:06< kitty_> thanks Sapient :) 20090701 21:15:07< AnMaster> boucman, when should one check for more music in data/core/music then? I have that mirrored on my portable music player 20090701 21:15:25< AnMaster> (well, skipping victory/defeat ones) 20090701 21:15:33< boucman> with the new API, the AI can't cheat wrt shroud/fog anymore... can it ? 20090701 21:15:47< boucman> AnMaster: no idea, depends what you track 20090701 21:15:54< AnMaster> boucman, svn? 20090701 21:15:56< Sapient> kitty_: I must confess I took some of your outlaw portraits and mixed the pieces together into my D&D character's portrait ;) 20090701 21:16:02< AnMaster> boucman, is there anything else to track 20090701 21:16:09< boucman> AnMaster: whenever data/core/music is changed :P 20090701 21:16:11< Sapient> he looks extremely bad if I do say so myself 20090701 21:16:15< kitty_> Sapient: show it! 20090701 21:16:17< boucman> any good miroring tool should do that 20090701 21:16:24< Sapient> bad as in good, that is 20090701 21:16:45< Crab_> boucman: 'ai which doesn't cheat wrt shroud/fog' - can be done a lot easier now. I know (roughly) the steps to do it, and it can be done in a few days. 20090701 21:16:58< AnMaster> boucman, I svn up in my wesnoth checkout weekly anyway. Just wondered if you had any proverb for it! 20090701 21:17:14< kitty_> Sapient I'm curious! Do you have a link? 20090701 21:17:26< boucman> Crab_: no, I was more worried about introducing a regression in default AI (which doesn't handle shroud/fog) there is no emergency in introducing that... 20090701 21:18:03< Sapient> kitty_: yeah, uploading to imagebin 20090701 21:18:04< Crab_> boucman: well, ai_default uses old movement/attack functions, so it is (almost) not modified. 20090701 21:18:38< Crab_> ai_composite RCA uses my new ai::actions, so it can be made aware of fog/shroud. 20090701 21:18:44< Sapient> kitty_: try this http://imagebin.org/54206 20090701 21:18:50< boucman> Crab_: ok sounds good 20090701 21:19:11< boucman> iow default AI can continue cheating without perturbating other AI developements 20090701 21:19:32< Crab_> note src/ai/actions.cpp:428 20090701 21:19:34< kitty_> Sapient: :P not that bad at all - the head may be a bit big... and the bow's perspective... 20090701 21:19:51< kitty_> but I'm glad if my stuff is usefull! 20090701 21:20:03< AnMaster> kitty_, if it is in wesnoth, isn't it useful then? 20090701 21:20:10< Crab_> if I change that 'true' to 'false', then the ai move will be interrupted on 'new enemy unit sighted' 20090701 21:20:17< kitty_> but not it is even more usefull! :P 20090701 21:20:37< Sapient> yeah, it was somewhat of a rush job; but I figured if I resized it I'd get horrible scaling artifacts 20090701 21:20:59< Crab_> then, if I add some subjective movement maps, then the ai will plan its moves based on incomplete info. 20090701 21:21:16< boucman> ok, so the big step is the subjective mvt map... 20090701 21:21:37< Crab_> boucman: no, not that big 20090701 21:21:44< kitty_> Sapient: why scaling artifacts? if you make it bigger perhaps, but smaller should be no problem 20090701 21:21:46-!- Sirp [n=me@wesnoth/developer/dave] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:21:51< boucman> ok, the "biggest change" to have fog 20090701 21:21:59< Sapient> oh ok 20090701 21:22:04< boucman> hey Sirp 20090701 21:22:17< AnMaster> kitty_, depends on what interpolation you use 20090701 21:22:33< AnMaster> with none you can get scaling artifacts both way in gimp at least. 20090701 21:23:01< kitty_> AnMaster: ah, thanks for the info, but normal bicubic should do the job 20090701 21:23:07< AnMaster> kitty_, yep 20090701 21:24:31< Crab_> boucman: the biggest change is to make a 'cheap' copy of game state (at least unit_map &units) 20090701 21:26:05-!- ardesh [n=ardesh@port-92-206-36-83.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 21:33:31-!- Rexozord [n=Rexozord@adsl-64-219-21-17.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:34:51-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:35:50< [Relic]> Hello :) 20090701 21:39:06-!- elias [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 21:44:08-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.136.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:46:27-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.136.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:58:54-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 21:59:47-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090701 22:04:44-!- Mythological [i=Mytholog@77.28.122.223] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 22:05:30-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 22:08:29-!- euschn [n=chatzill@wesnoth/developer/euschn] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 22:10:36-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090701 22:20:41-!- YogiHH [n=chatzill@d095213.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090701 22:22:58< CIA-51> crab * r36501 /trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): AI Composite: new engine: formula ai engine (added a stub file) 20090701 22:23:57< CIA-51> crab * r36502 /trunk/src/ai/formula/ (candidates.cpp candidates.hpp): refactored formula candidate action manager to expose formula candidate action parser 20090701 22:24:07 * boucman has stuff to read :) 20090701 22:24:13< CIA-51> crab * r36503 /trunk/src/ai/ (4 files in 2 dirs): AI Composite: WIP on engine_fai : candidate actions parsing by formula_ai 20090701 22:25:08< Crab_> it's not complete yet - a small bit is not in place yet. but it shows how I will integrate formula ai candidate actions into ai_composite system without disturbing Dragonking's work. 20090701 22:26:29-!- Sirp [n=me@wesnoth/developer/dave] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090701 22:27:38-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090701 22:28:00-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 22:28:13-!- maxy [n=maxy@84-74-83-103.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 20090701 22:31:36< loonycyborg> It looks like sourceforge's download infrastructure is currently confused 20090701 22:31:38< Rrenys> What is the purpose of the bright yellow color code for SoA people on the forums if it is not used? 20090701 22:32:00< loonycyborg> Download pages on the main page lead to 400 Bad Request 20090701 22:32:13< loonycyborg> *Download links 20090701 22:57:05-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@c-98-204-170-162.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #Wesnoth-dev 20090701 23:11:57< Aethaeryn> Do the horse units still need updating or are they already updated? 20090701 23:16:21-!- Sapient [n=patrickp@wesnoth/developer/sapient] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20090701 23:20:36-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090701 23:21:03-!- ardesh [n=ardesh@port-92-206-232-161.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 23:28:26-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090701 23:29:33-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 23:29:40-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Client Quit] 20090701 23:30:15-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 23:40:16-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090701 23:46:42< ilor> night all 20090701 23:47:05-!- Mythological_ [i=Mytholog@77.28.125.141] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20090701 23:47:43< CIA-51> crab * r36504 /trunk/src/ai/ (composite/engine_fai.cpp formula/ai.cpp formula/ai.hpp): ai_composite: engine_fai: added wrapper of fai candidate actions to standard ai_composite interface 20090701 23:51:22< CIA-51> crab * r36505 /trunk/src/ai/formula/ai.hpp: fixed a typo in comment 20090701 23:53:39-!- Mythological [i=Mytholog@77.28.122.223] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090701 23:53:52-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090701 23:54:43-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090701 23:57:33-!- kitty_ [n=kitty@wesnoth/artist/kitty] has quit [] --- Log closed Thu Jul 02 00:00:12 2009