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20090718 00:09:05< CIA-51> fendrin * r36954 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/images/campaign_image.png: Reduced the size of LoW's campaign image.
20090718 00:14:49< fabi>  * Add an icon to show whether or not the user finished a campaign -- That's great.
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20090718 00:42:58< Aethaeryn> http://www.wesnoth.org/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Maxie103e&rcid=30103
20090718 00:43:09< Aethaeryn> is this spam? I don't know Russian
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20090718 00:46:38< corn> pretty sure it is
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20090718 00:47:20< GhostOfBanquo_> Yes, it looks like spam. I could always ask my friend who's girlfriend is a Russian, if you want.
20090718 00:47:32< GhostOfBanquo_> To make sure. :)
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20090718 00:49:48< GhostOfBanquo_> Well, I must go to bed. Goodnight! :)
20090718 00:49:55< corn> night
20090718 00:50:04< GhostOfBanquo_> Night ^^
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20090718 00:54:37< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wesnoth.org%2Fmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DUser_talk%3AMaxie103e%26rcid%3D30103&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
20090718 00:54:51< loonycyborg> Aethaeryn: That's an insanely generic user page. And judging by links that's link spam.
20090718 00:59:39< Aethaeryn> loonycyborg: so would it be better to remove the links just to be safe? or delete/ban like the usual epidemic of spammers?
20090718 00:59:51< Aethaeryn> If they're a spammer, odds are they'll never come back...
20090718 01:00:49< loonycyborg> Maybe mail him asking whether he's a spam bot :P
20090718 01:01:07< Aethaeryn> But I don't write Russian :P
20090718 01:01:43< grzywacz> Sirp, sure, how does that explain copying bad features? ;)
20090718 01:02:00< Sirp> grzywacz: well the comparison was that g++ is a lot slower than gcc
20090718 01:02:10< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: Regardless I'd rermove the links
20090718 01:02:22< grzywacz> Sirp, C doesn't have templates.
20090718 01:02:31< grzywacz> Sirp, and I'm fairly sure it has a simpler grammar.
20090718 01:02:32< Blueblaze> The rest of it is pretty much worthless to care about
20090718 01:02:56< Sirp> grzywacz: sure....that's what I was saying, that C++ has a lot more features than C.
20090718 01:03:20< grzywacz> … of course it does
20090718 01:03:30< Sirp> I'm actually not sure if g++ is slower than gcc per se
20090718 01:04:03< loonycyborg> Aethaeryn: All those links lead to the same site.
20090718 01:04:13< loonycyborg> Link spam definitely.
20090718 01:04:41< Blueblaze> ^
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20090718 01:23:09< AI0867> does anyone here know what the semi-preference ping_timeout is supposed to default to/work like?
20090718 01:23:23< AI0867> right now it's hardcoded at 0, but there was an attempt to make it a preference
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20090718 01:49:31< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36955 /trunk/data/core/images/units/nagas/ (35 files): 
20090718 01:49:31< CIA-51> Ran optipng on nagas.
20090718 01:49:31< CIA-51> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20090718 01:49:31< CIA-51> Original size: 52 KiB on 35 files
20090718 01:49:31< CIA-51> Optimized size: 51 KiB
20090718 01:49:32< CIA-51> Total saving: 1 KiB = 2% decrease
20090718 01:49:37< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36956 /trunk/data/core/images/units/ogres/ (18 files): 
20090718 01:49:38< CIA-51> Ran optipng on ogres.
20090718 01:49:40< CIA-51> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20090718 01:49:42< CIA-51> Original size: 25 KiB on 18 files
20090718 01:49:44< CIA-51> Optimized size: 24 KiB
20090718 01:49:46< CIA-51> Total saving: 0 KiB = 1% decrease
20090718 01:49:48< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36957 /trunk/data/core/images/units/drakes/ (67 files): 
20090718 01:49:50< CIA-51> Ran optipng on drakes.
20090718 01:49:52< CIA-51> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20090718 01:49:56< CIA-51> Original size: 258 KiB on 67 files
20090718 01:49:58< CIA-51> Optimized size: 146 KiB
20090718 01:50:00< CIA-51> Total saving: 112 KiB = 43% decrease
20090718 01:51:13< ilor_> mordante: re your lobby tweaks it's a definite improvement but still needs work
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20090718 01:52:29< ilor_> mordante: I'd much rather prefer having the vertical split between items constant and not changing al the time like it is now, so the chat log labe should just have a set height
20090718 01:54:21< mordocai> Just curious, is the drake clasher's sword melee attack going to be changed to claws? The description seems to suggest this...
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20090718 01:54:35< ilor_> mordante: same deal for the width of the chat input textbox
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20090718 01:59:44< ilor_> mordante: gamelist width seems to wrk nicely as it should
20090718 02:15:18< mordocai> I noticed that data/core/units/drakes/Clasher.cfg wasn't updated for the new defense images... i fixed it, but should i bother submitting a patch? I just wanted to see what it looked like.
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20090718 02:18:58< corn> hm. I implemented --screenshot but it's only giving me black screenshots (as if nothing has drawn to screen)
20090718 02:19:02< corn> http://cornmander.com/blah.png
20090718 02:19:08< corn> the dimensions are correct but there is nothing drawn
20090718 02:23:08< AI0867> corn: why do you have a BMP with a .png extension?
20090718 02:23:18< corn> oh, oops
20090718 02:28:01< corn> https://gna.org/patch/index.php?1194
20090718 02:28:11< corn> is that acceptable for commit?
20090718 02:28:27< corn> the functionality is broken but it doesn't break anything else
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20090718 02:45:00< CIA-51> dragonking * r36958 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Formula AI code cleanup/refractoring
20090718 02:50:17< CIA-51> dragonking * r36959 /trunk/src/ai/formula/ (4 files): Copyrights for new files
20090718 02:52:36< corn> http://cornmander.com/map_screenshot.bmp :D the issue was that it set bpp to 8 bit by default and it didn't work for some reason
20090718 02:52:41< corn> forcing it to 32 made it work
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20090718 03:17:41< CIA-51> cornmander * r36960 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Initial version of '--screenshot' parameter complete
20090718 03:19:10< corn> now I need to put in necessary #ifdefs because the screenshot code only works when editor2 is compiled in, and change the parameter to accept a filename instead of naming the file 'map_screenshot.bmp' by default
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20090718 03:52:30< CIA-51> cornmander * r36961 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Added #ifndef DISABLE_EDITOR2 around screenshot code, since it depends on editor2
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20090718 04:11:26< CIA-51> cornmander * r36962 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added a mandatory output file name requirement to the --screenshot flag. Added info on the command to --help
20090718 04:12:41< corn> Sirp: what receives and parses the upload logs serverside?
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20090718 04:23:30< corn> Ivanovic: the wesnoth manpage will need to be updated with info on the new --screenshot command
20090718 04:23:31< Sirp> corn: a small C program I wrote.
20090718 04:24:12< corn> Sirp: ok. can you upload to somewhere on svn? I want to look at it. I will either rewrite it into python or extend it
20090718 04:24:30< corn> I've reached the point in my project where I am going to modify the stuff that a client uploads to the server
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20090718 04:25:09< Sirp> corn: okay, cool.
20090718 04:25:47< Sirp> corn: unless you test the performance thoroughly, I'd ask that you keep it in C. I wrote it in C because there are really a lot of client uploads, and we don't want to overload the server.
20090718 04:25:48< corn> the new stuff that the client will upload is a gzipped version of the .map mentioned in the log, and a list of units killed along with the locations they were killed at and by which type of unit
20090718 04:25:56< corn> ok
20090718 04:26:12< corn> that's not a problem for me, I can code proficiently in C :)
20090718 04:26:39< corn> do you think that sending a .map will be too much?
20090718 04:26:52< Sirp> corn: I didn't figure it would be a problem. :) And I might be really wrong about the performance thing; if you can validate that Python will run it trivially I'm fine with that.
20090718 04:27:02< corn> ok
20090718 04:27:11< Sirp> corn: I'm not sure. Can you do some calculations on how much bandwidth that'll be?
20090718 04:27:35< corn> I took a 6k .map and gzipped it, it compressed to around 700 bytes
20090718 04:28:20< corn> 6k is small for a campaign map though, so it is maybe an additional 700 - 1500 bytes per upload
20090718 04:29:02< corn> how many uploads/hr are there right now?
20090718 04:32:55< Sirp> checking...
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20090718 04:37:38< Sirp> okay so yesterday there were 48k updates -> 2k updates/hr on average.
20090718 04:38:11< Sirp> which works out to around 0.5/second, though that might work out to something like 2/second at peak
20090718 04:39:27< corn> ok
20090718 04:39:47< corn> so if I add 2 kb to the total upload size on average, that's an extra 91 mb per day
20090718 04:40:30< corn> is there a bandwidth limit on the hosting?
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20090718 04:45:03< corn> be back in an hour
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20090718 04:49:27< AI0867> corn: we do, but to hit it we have to *average* 8 mbit/s
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20090718 05:01:35< mordocai> Okay, this is completely off-topic... but can someone currently running Linux throw http://pastebin.com/m41f6ef16 into a *.sh file and execute it? On my system it's outputting simply outputting $[X*Y] instead of calculating it as it is supposed too...
20090718 05:01:47< mordocai> I tried ubuntu but they are ignoring me...
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20090718 05:02:13< mordocai> And there was some typos there... obviously... sorry.
20090718 05:03:30< corn> people are usually very suspicious of executing random snippets of code
20090718 05:03:52< shadowmaster> perhaps  you need to use bash (#!/bin/bash), not sure. That was just a guess
20090718 05:03:54< corn> no matter how simple it may seem
20090718 05:04:13< mordocai> Yeah, i just check it over before i run it personally... 
20090718 05:04:20< mordocai> Shadowmaster: I'll try it... one sec.
20090718 05:04:27< shadowmaster> yes, there is pretty simple code which can do nasty things with your machine (like fork bombs)
20090718 05:05:01< mordocai> Yep, bash works... that's weird. The book i got it from told me to use sh
20090718 05:05:03< mordocai> Thanks
20090718 05:05:45< ancestral> Just to clarify: [base_unit] copies everything in [unit_type]?
20090718 05:05:55< shadowmaster> perhaps the writer wasn't aware of bash differences against the classic sh
20090718 05:06:32< shadowmaster> ancestral: AFAIK it's supposed to do so.
20090718 05:07:04< mordocai> yeah, but i could have sworn that it worked on my old fedora box... oh well. I'm just going through Rute User's tutorial and exposition as a refresher on bash scripting...
20090718 05:07:33< ancestral> Well, that totally rocks!
20090718 05:07:53< ancestral> Gonna save me a lot of time. I need to bake a cake for whoever implemented that into wml
20090718 05:08:17< shadowmaster> mordocai: well, in openSUSE, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash and behaves like it too. Other systems may differ and use a different shell for /bin/sh or different behavior
20090718 05:08:24< shadowmaster> I guess fedora also uses bash for sh
20090718 05:08:39< shadowmaster> (being both Red Hat-based)
20090718 05:08:51< mordocai> Ah... and ubuntu doesn't then. That makes sense. (ironically, if i remove #!/bash/sh it works as well)
20090718 05:11:39< mordocai> shadowmaster: Well in any case, thanks. That would have taken me a long time to figure out...
20090718 05:11:54< shadowmaster> np
20090718 05:17:33< mordocai> shadowmaster: Just as a sidenote... i went through the man page for bash just now, and $[ ] notation is being deprecated and replaced by $(( )) for some reason...
20090718 05:29:47< ancestral> Is there a way to modify the first instance of an element in WML?
20090718 05:30:32< ancestral> For example, a unit has two attacks and I want to change the first attack. If I use [base_unit] on the unit and subsequently attempt to write over the attack, how can I differentiate the two attacks from each other? Or maybe I simply can't?
20090718 05:30:51< ancestral> (I'd be writing a new unit copying an existing one.)
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20090718 05:41:52< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36963 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Allow [advanced_preference]s to be of 'int' type.
20090718 06:01:30< corn> Sirp: upload the C file when you have the time, just remember to sanitize any DB specific login information... I made that mistake several times when working on wesstats and had to change passwords :)
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20090718 06:04:14< ancestral> Can I use [base_unit] on an id that uses yet another [base_unit]?
20090718 06:04:27< shadowmaster> of course
20090718 06:04:36< ancestral> It'll just fill in all the holes
20090718 06:04:37< ancestral> Sweet
20090718 06:05:48< shadowmaster> I'd not be surprised if it doesn't work completely right or crashes Wesnoth, though.
20090718 06:06:09< ancestral> I guess we'll find out what happens
20090718 06:07:10< ancestral> is :unit advances=N in 1.6 or 1.7 only?
20090718 06:07:47< shadowmaster> AI0867: that's pretty nice
20090718 06:08:06< ancestral> I'm guessing 1.7 looks like the wiki page is up to dat
20090718 06:08:28< shadowmaster> maybe the Ping Tieout setting cn be displayed now
20090718 06:08:41< AI0867> shadowmaster: it can, it just fails to work
20090718 06:08:43< AI0867> due to hardcoding
20090718 06:08:47< AI0867> I'm working on that now
20090718 06:08:59< AI0867> if you uncomment the dummy slider, you'll see that *that* works fine
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20090718 06:09:55< shadowmaster> I guess I uncommented the slider without noticing. I see one :P
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20090718 06:27:15< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36964 /trunk/ (data/advanced_preferences.cfg src/game_preferences.cpp): Don't overwrite a changeable preference with a static value. (ping timeout)
20090718 06:32:15< mordocai> Wow.. i just realized how much of a nerd i am, when i cheered out loud because my script to automatically update from svn and compile ~/wesnoth* finally worked bug-free...
20090718 06:32:37< mordocai> (i was stupid with my for loop i was using... )
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20090718 06:46:57< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36965 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add 'description' key to [advanced_preference] to set the help string.
20090718 06:47:27< mordocai> ai0867: Ooh, excellent. I was wondering why advanced didn't have that...
20090718 06:52:27< AI0867> seems like [advanced_preference] isn't documented on the wiki...
20090718 06:53:19< shadowmaster> if you are going to add i t, please also add it to the tags sidebar template
20090718 07:03:13< CIA-51> jetryl * r36966 /trunk/data/core/images/units/drakes/ (12 files): Added spear defense anim for the drake clasher.
20090718 07:04:04< CIA-51> jetryl * r36967 /trunk/data/core/units/drakes/Clasher.cfg: Added spear defense anim for the drake clasher.
20090718 07:05:00< AI0867> done
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20090718 07:14:11< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36968 /trunk/data/core/images/units/drakes/ (12 files): 
20090718 07:14:11< CIA-51> Ran optipng on drakes.
20090718 07:14:11< CIA-51> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20090718 07:14:11< CIA-51> Original size: 21 KiB on 12 files
20090718 07:14:11< CIA-51> Optimized size: 21 KiB
20090718 07:14:11< CIA-51> Total saving: 0 KiB = 3% decrease
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20090718 07:34:05< silene> hi
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20090718 07:46:06< CIA-51> ai0867 * r36969 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: Fix/work around an issue where :unit made the unit invisible.
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20090718 09:55:37< Dragonking> Crab_: hi
20090718 09:55:50< Dragonking> Crab_: I moved around some things like I saild I will do
20090718 09:59:42< CIA-51> dragonking * r36970 /trunk/src/ai/formula/ (4 files): Propset for new files
20090718 10:07:01< Crab_> Dragonking: ok
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20090718 10:13:18< CIA-51> dragonking * r36971 /trunk/src/ai/formula/ (4 files): Small tweaks
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20090718 10:53:38< Rhonda> Alright, I'm having network again. :)  In spain.
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20090718 11:34:09< mordante> servus
20090718 11:35:20< mordante> AI0867, no objection against an int as advanced preference, haven't started to work on preferences yet
20090718 11:41:48< shadowmaster> ons -j 3
20090718 11:46:06< mordante> ilor, I'll have another look at the lobby later todya
20090718 11:46:08< mordante> today*
20090718 11:46:23< shadowmaster> mordante: is it inteded that the new campaign selection dialog doesn't have a darker background beneath the splash image and description text?
20090718 11:46:30< mordante> shadowmaster, ye
20090718 11:46:32< mordante> yes*
20090718 11:46:34< shadowmaster> (also, could the latter support Pango now?)
20090718 11:47:09< mordante> could yes, but doesn't yet
20090718 11:47:40< mordante> would also be a great idea to disallow markup in the name of the addon
20090718 11:48:03< shadowmaster> ah right. *removes markup from his own addon*
20090718 11:48:39< ilor> mordante: ok good, I'll send you a diff of the rng changes I have more or less ready some time later today
20090718 11:50:13< Crab_> ilor: if it's possible, show it to me, as well (or leave a link here on irc)
20090718 11:51:00< ilor> Crab_: will do, anyway as I wrote yesterday the AI changes feel clean and robust
20090718 11:51:18< Crab_> ok
20090718 11:51:21< Crab_> thanks
20090718 11:52:16< mordante> ilor, ok, please also ask silene to review that patch
20090718 11:56:35< ilor> yeah, though I had to deviate from what he proposed somewhat
20090718 11:58:09< ilor> basically to me that the attacking client has to behave differently from other clients anyway and trying to make it work by sending the same data to everyone (from the server) is making things difficult
20090718 11:59:43< ilor> so I ended up with sending a [random_seed]seed=32324[/random_seed] back to the attacking client, and filling in the seed= value in the [attack] passed to other clients
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20090718 12:13:42< mordante> AI0867, regarding r36964, is allowing an timeout of 0 really a good idea (and a good default)?
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20090718 14:05:53< CIA-51> silene * r36972 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Moved resources to their own header.
20090718 14:05:59< CIA-51> silene * r36973 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Removed redundant fields map_ and teams_ from class unit.
20090718 14:06:04< CIA-51> silene * r36974 /trunk/src/ (6 files): Moved tod_manager to resources.
20090718 14:06:08< CIA-51> silene * r36975 /trunk/src/ (7 files): Removed redundant fields map_, tod_manager_, and teams_, from class terrain_filter.
20090718 14:06:13< CIA-51> silene * r36976 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Removed redundant field tod_manager_ from class unit.
20090718 14:06:19< CIA-51> silene * r36977 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Cleaned interface of recruit_unit.
20090718 14:06:23< CIA-51> silene * r36978 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Removed redundant fields from battle_context.
20090718 14:06:34< CIA-51> silene * r36979 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Removed redundant parameters from dialogs::advance_unit.
20090718 14:06:43< CIA-51> silene * r36980 /trunk/src/ (actions.cpp actions.hpp dialogs.cpp): Simplified interface of get_advanced_unit.
20090718 14:06:45< CIA-51> silene * r36981 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Removed redundant parameters from check_victory.
20090718 14:06:54< CIA-51> silene * r36982 /trunk/src/ (5 files): Removed constant parameter from labels.
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20090718 14:23:47< CIA-51> mordante * r36983 /trunk/src/gui/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20090718 14:23:47< CIA-51> Add a flag to disable listbox linked size.
20090718 14:23:47< CIA-51> The default is to still allow automatic linked sizes by default, but
20090718 14:23:47< CIA-51> that feature will deprecated and removed in the near future.
20090718 14:24:29< CIA-51> mordante * r36984 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (window.cpp window.hpp): 
20090718 14:24:29< CIA-51> Add twindow::has_linked_size_group().
20090718 14:24:29< CIA-51> This allows validation of the groups before trying to add them and die
20090718 14:24:29< CIA-51> in the assert.
20090718 14:24:38< CIA-51> mordante * r36986 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/ (window_builder.cpp window_builder.hpp): 
20090718 14:24:38< CIA-51> Add the linked group definitions to the config.
20090718 14:24:38< CIA-51> This allows the user to set linked widget groups. The code to also set
20090718 14:24:38< CIA-51> widgets in the groups hasn't been included yet, that's still WIP.
20090718 14:24:39< CIA-51> mordante * r36985 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/window_builder/listbox.cpp: Also set the disable linked state in the listbox.
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20090718 14:45:10< CIA-51> silene * r36987 /trunk/ (105 files in 23 dirs): Fixed svn properties.
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20090718 14:54:30< CIA-51> mcshark * r36988 /trunk/src/ai/formula/callable_objects.cpp: Fix compiler warning about "no newline at end of file"
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20090718 15:24:18< CIA-51> mcshark * r36989 /trunk/projectfiles/ (CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp CodeBlocks-SCons/wesnoth.cbp): Update according to recent file changes
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20090718 16:18:05< CIA-51> silene * r36990 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Removed get_state_of_game.
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20090718 16:28:14< ilor> sigh, git rebase trunk died with a 'cannot unlink foo' and then a conflict, so I did a git rebase --abort which died with a 'cannot unlink some bar' and did not restore the initial state
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20090718 17:10:57< CIA-51> mordante * r36992 /trunk/src/ (gamestatus.cpp gamestatus.hpp play_controller.cpp): Remove an unused parameter.
20090718 17:11:07< CIA-51> mordante * r36993 /trunk/src/ (6 files): Remove an unused parameter.
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20090718 17:21:43< ilor> silene: you've added resources.hpp to Makefile.am, I guess that was not intended?
20090718 17:22:57< silene> ilor: it was intended, but now that you point it out, i notice that this is only hpp file there, so i guess it can be removed
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20090718 17:41:07< CIA-51> silene * r36994 /trunk/src/ (actions.cpp actions.hpp play_controller.cpp): Removed redundant parameters from calculate_healing.
20090718 17:41:09< CIA-51> silene * r36995 /trunk/src/ (actions.cpp actions.hpp dialogs.cpp): Removed redundant parameter from advance_unit.
20090718 17:41:13< CIA-51> silene * r36996 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Removed redundant parameters from timeofday_at and combat_modifier.
20090718 17:41:17< CIA-51> silene * r36997 /trunk/src/ (8 files): Removed redundant parameters from recalculate_for and clear_shroud.
20090718 17:41:21< CIA-51> silene * r36998 /trunk/src/Makefile.am: Removed unneeded entry.
20090718 17:42:09< grzywacz> lovely
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20090718 17:47:40< CIA-51> ilor * r36999 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: vcproj update
20090718 17:47:57< CIA-51> ilor * r37000 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: make the server call srand() in main
20090718 17:48:12< CIA-51> ilor * r37001 /trunk/src/terrain_filter.cpp: fix build error in msvc-only code
20090718 17:48:27< CIA-51> ilor * r37002 /trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): split random.hpp into creating separate headers for the rng and simple_rng class
20090718 17:48:44< CIA-51> ilor * r37003 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: vcproj update
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20090718 17:57:13< silene> ilor: is the workaround for msvc in terrain_filter.cpp still useful nowadays?
20090718 17:57:45< ilor> silene: yes, for people with msvc 9 SP 1 without a hotfix 
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20090718 17:58:31< ilor> silene: iirc it works without it in plain VC9 but they broke somehing in SP1
20090718 17:58:51< ilor> and the "hotfix" for that was over 100MB
20090718 17:59:45< silene> nice
20090718 18:06:20< ilor> silene: found it again, it's actually 380MB 
20090718 18:06:21< ilor> http://blogs.msdn.com/vcblog/archive/2008/12/17/vc9-sp1-hotfix-for-the-vector-function-ft-crash.aspx
20090718 18:09:04< ilor> anyway, mordante crab silene: here's the server RNG patch: http://pastebin.com/m2dea1323
20090718 18:10:19< ilor> I will need to go afk in a while and will be back tomorrow evening, might check logs later today but won't be around for very long
20090718 18:13:55< silene> ilor: i can't tell from the patch; is the ai busy-waiting for the seed?
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20090718 18:14:36< ilor> silene: yes I initially assumed there is a delay when raising user interact but it seems there is none so this needs fixing
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20090718 18:30:01< corn> ilor: I finished the '--screenshot' parameter, but I haven't tested in windows whether it works
20090718 18:30:14< corn> you can try it out if you'd like ;)
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20090718 18:32:56< ilor> corn: if it's committed I'll have a go while I'm offline
20090718 18:33:40< mordante> loonycyborg, are there more changes required for scons with the fribidi patch posted on the dev-ml?
20090718 18:33:58< mordante> ilor, will look at your patch later today
20090718 18:38:45< corn> ilor: yep, it is
20090718 18:39:19< corn> I had to change the function prototypes for some things in editor2, it might not be the best way of doing things
20090718 18:40:24< loonycyborg> mordante: Which one?
20090718 18:41:36< ilor> corn: instead of all the flag business I'd add a do_screnshoot function that'd be called instead of main_loop
20090718 18:41:56< corn> ilor: ok, will change
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20090718 18:44:48< ilor> corn: other than that it looks nice :)
20090718 18:45:13< corn> thanks
20090718 18:45:13< loonycyborg> mordante: Ah. Found it. I still have no idea why old fribidi works :/
20090718 18:45:23< CIA-51> silene * r37004 /trunk/src/ (5 files): Removed redundant parameters from apply_shroud_changes.
20090718 18:45:26< CIA-51> silene * r37005 /trunk/src/ (5 files): Removed redundant parameters from unit_can_move.
20090718 18:45:30< CIA-51> silene * r37006 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Removed redundant parameters from move_unit. Also fixed a data corruption if a unit changed side while moving.
20090718 18:45:39< mordante> loonycyborg, ok, but the patch works for you?
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20090718 18:46:46< ilor> ok I'm off
20090718 18:46:50< corn> cya
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20090718 18:47:50< crimson_penguin> I've got a way to make OOS errors on 1.6.4
20090718 18:48:14< crimson_penguin> give control to an observer, over a side that's already dead
20090718 18:48:29< loonycyborg> mordante: It doesn't break compilation for me.
20090718 18:48:39< crimson_penguin> suddenly everyone thinks it's a different person's turn
20090718 18:50:00< loonycyborg> And I currently have fribidi 0.10.9 installed.
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20090718 18:54:47< loonycyborg> mordante: Of course I could make scons pass -DOLD_FRIBIDI if 0.10.9 but I don't have any system where it's really necessary.
20090718 18:55:55< loonycyborg> I've tried it on ubuntu..
20090718 18:57:13< mordante> ok good to know, fixing it for cmake
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20090718 19:01:58< Ivanovic> hi
20090718 19:03:41< corn> hi
20090718 19:03:50< CIA-51> cornmander * r37007 /trunk/src/editor2/ (editor_controller.cpp editor_controller.hpp editor_main.cpp): --screenshot code refactoring
20090718 19:05:52< Ivanovic> uhm, this is a joke, right?
20090718 19:05:57< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20090718 19:05:58< Ivanovic> this many commit mails for me to read...
20090718 19:06:15< mordante> no some people thought you might get bored :-P
20090718 19:06:17< Ivanovic> 38 by now...
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20090718 19:15:16< Ivanovic> okay, todays most used word in commit messages "removed" closely followed by "redundant"
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20090718 19:16:09< mordante> some with unused ;-)
20090718 19:20:13< Ivanovic> i think unused is on the third place in the daily charts
20090718 19:27:45< mordante> Ivanovic, what do you prefer? The fribidi changes before or after the 1.7.2 release?
20090718 19:28:08< Ivanovic> to be honest: i don't care much
20090718 19:28:13< Ivanovic> just make it "work somehow"
20090718 19:29:55< mordante> ok
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20090718 19:31:07< CIA-51> cornmander * r37008 /website/stats.wesnoth.org/wesstats/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Minor interface tweak, added Google Maps API key
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20090718 19:33:59< CIA-51> mordante * r37009 /trunk/src/CMakeLists.txt: Properly set the include path for fribidi.
20090718 19:38:16< CIA-51> mordante * r37010 /branches/1.6/src/CMakeLists.txt: Properly set the include path for fribidi.
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20090718 19:58:58< CIA-51> silene * r37011 /trunk/src/ (dialogs.cpp dialogs.hpp menu_events.cpp mouse_events.cpp): Removed redundant parameters from unit preview.
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20090718 20:25:59< zookeeper> kitty_, the enchantress is particularly cool
20090718 20:26:24< kitty_> heh thanks!
20090718 20:26:43< zookeeper> kitty_, maybe reserve glowy eyes for the priestess and/or diviner?
20090718 20:26:45< thespaceinvader> kitty_: could you drop a quick crit on the scout so that I know what to do tomorrow?  Thanks =)
20090718 20:26:53< thespaceinvader> great work on the mermaid, btw
20090718 20:27:07< kitty_> zookeeper: no, no glowy eyes at all!
20090718 20:27:12< zookeeper> aww
20090718 20:27:20< CIA-51> mordante * r37012 /trunk/src/ (6 files): Remove an unused parameter.
20090718 20:27:25< kitty_> thespaceinvader: one min please
20090718 20:27:26< zookeeper> i could already picture all-white and a bit glowing eyes for the diviner
20090718 20:27:41 * grzywacz goes too look
20090718 20:28:04< grzywacz> Art subforums are pretty much the only ones I regularly browse for more awesomness.
20090718 20:28:09< kitty_> thespaceinvader: where did you post a new version of the scout?
20090718 20:28:20< thespaceinvader> kitty_: no rush, i'm unlikely to work on it til tomorrow - gonna finish the glad line animations first, assuming i can get the headbutt sorted
20090718 20:28:38< kitty_> yes, but *where* is it?
20090718 20:29:17< thespaceinvader> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/download/file.php?id=32422 - i think you said something about it in chat yesterday, but having something on the forum would be useful
20090718 20:29:22< kitty_> zookeeper: i just fear that glowy eyes coul esily look very cheesy... i'll see, when I'll do the diviner/priestess - she's next
20090718 20:30:02< kitty_> thespaceinvader: ah, thanks. the random light dots on the vest are new- right?
20090718 20:30:30< thespaceinvader> kitty_: yeah - attempting some specular highlights, probably failing ;) i rushed them
20090718 20:30:47< kitty_>  leather highlights are much sharper. and really nearly white. 
20090718 20:32:06< thespaceinvader> i'll have a look at some more reference next time i do anything with this
20090718 20:32:19< thespaceinvader> but most of the brigandines i've seen have a more suedey finish
20090718 20:33:12< kitty_> then you need to give it some suedey texture instead :P
20090718 20:34:21< kitty_> but if you search for leather armour or the like you get tons of usable ref, for example: http://www.lrpstore.com/uploads/images_categories/80.jpg observe the generally soft light with the bright white in the middle
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20090718 20:49:25< kitty_> thespaceinvader: and a quick suggestion for the rear arm: centerline following the form, got rid of the overly dark shadows, reshaped the upper arm muscle, etc. http://imagebin.ca/img/QrdnbK55.jpg
20090718 20:49:58< thespaceinvader> cool, thanks kitty_ 
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20090718 20:50:09< thespaceinvader> i'll work with that when i get to the final tweaks for the scout
20090718 20:53:04< kitty_> I look forward to seeing the final product! will the pathfinder get his own portrait, too? or do you plan to share them?
20090718 20:56:56< thespaceinvader> kitty_: the pathfinder and scout will share a portrait
20090718 20:57:28< thespaceinvader> eventually i might come back and do one for each level (i'd like to for every dwarf unit individually, eventually) but it won't be soon
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20090718 20:59:29< kitty_> sounds good, actually I'd like to do that for the elves and wizards, too but there is a lot to do before there will be time for that...
20090718 21:03:45< thespaceinvader> mm, indeed - i wouldn't think of doing that until every (commonly speaking) unit had at least one portrait that it could use, and the campaigns were all up to snuff
20090718 21:04:13< stikonas> Ivanovic: if you are interested, I have a patch that adds shave support to autotools (makes g++ output look like Kbuild output when compiling kernel e.g. "CXX   game.cpp").
20090718 21:04:38< Ivanovic> stikonas: personally i don't care too much about autotools anymore
20090718 21:04:49< Ivanovic> the one taking care of autotools is silene
20090718 21:06:16< stikonas> silene: if you are interested then you can look at: http://stikonas.homelinux.org/files/shave.diff If not, this patch can be safely forgotten in the same way as autotools :)
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20090718 21:16:04< CIA-51> mordante * r37013 /trunk/src/gui/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Add a linked widget feature in the configs.
20090718 21:16:25< CIA-51> mordante * r37014 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/mp_server_list.cfg: Convert mp server list to linked widgets new style.
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20090718 21:24:33< CIA-51> mordante * r37015 /trunk/src/ (gamestatus.cpp multiplayer_ui.cpp replay.cpp replay.hpp): replay header cleanup.
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20090718 22:11:49< mordante> I'm off bye
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20090718 22:21:45< silene> stikonas: what is the license of these files?
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20090718 22:23:36< stikonas> should be publicdomain, but I took them from xf86-video-ati driver
20090718 22:24:05< Ivanovic> if this stuff is also used for the kernel it is probably gplv2
20090718 22:24:07< Ivanovic> ;)
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20090718 22:24:28< stikonas> so at least X11 license, I can check on shave homepage
20090718 22:24:59< stikonas> Ivanovic: shave makes output similar to kernel compile output, but kernel does not use autotools
20090718 22:25:06< stikonas> so the code is independant
20090718 22:25:19< Ivanovic> ah, right
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20090718 22:32:06< stikonas_> silene: they use MIT license: http://git.lespiau.name/cgit/shave/tree/
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