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20090728 00:00:30< boucman> night all
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20090728 00:15:41< AI0867> Sapient: do you have a good way to test wmliterator?
20090728 00:16:07< Sapient> double click it
20090728 00:16:20< Sapient> or in linux/mac, run it
20090728 00:17:16< AI0867> I ran it, but that doesn't tell me a whole lot
20090728 00:17:21< Sapient> it has a sample main method at the bottom, which you can modify as needed
20090728 00:17:49< Sapient> it simply reads each line and does a pass instruction, e.g. donothing
20090728 00:18:01< Sapient> i.e. do nothing
20090728 00:18:28< Sapient> instead, you could have it print iter.text
20090728 00:18:38< Sapient> with a linenumber
20090728 00:19:10< Sapient> to see if it handles multiline << >> strings with a single iteration stop, as it should
20090728 00:20:49< AI0867> it does now
20090728 00:22:19< Sapient> cool
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20090728 00:25:49< CIA-62> ow
20090728 00:29:09< AI0867> po/wesnoth-low/fr.po:4500: duplicate message definition...
20090728 00:29:09< AI0867> po/wesnoth-low/fr.po:3968: ...this is the location of the first definition
20090728 00:29:09< AI0867> /usr/bin/msgfmt: found 1 fatal error
20090728 00:29:09< AI0867> scons: *** [translations/fr/LC_MESSAGES/wesnoth-low.mo] Error 1
20090728 00:29:12< AI0867> scons: building terminated because of errors.
20090728 00:32:48< Chusslove> Creative way to unfuzzy a message: copy over translation to msgid, remove fuzzy flag.
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20090728 00:35:05< AI0867> yeah
20090728 00:39:33< CIA-62> ai0867 * r37280 /trunk/po/wesnoth-low/fr.po: Fix broken french translation, refuzzy.
20090728 00:39:44< CIA-62> ai0867 * r37279 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmliterator.py: Teach wmliterator about <<lua strings>>.
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20090728 00:44:42 * Soliton wonders who always unfuzzies translations with their translation hints^ still in them in en_GB.
20090728 00:44:52< AI0867> there's some more oddness in the changes in wesnoth-low/fr.po
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20090728 00:52:42< Soliton> Ivanovic: around?
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20090728 00:54:23< Bob_The_Mighty> Sapient, Soliton... I am still having problems with variations. Should (or can) there be id= and name= keys inside the [variation] tag? Also, is it right to put variation_name=normal in the main unit_type and expect to switch back to that variation later?
20090728 00:58:03< Sapient> I'm not able to check definitively right now, but I'd say put in the id, name, etc
20090728 00:58:16< Sapient> and for the default variation it should be "" (empty string)
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20090728 00:58:58< Soliton> of course using a different id then the unit_type might not make sense.
20090728 00:59:19< Soliton> you can check Kaleh from UtbS as a reference.
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20090728 01:45:41< Bob_The_Mighty> what i have found is: without inherit=yes you must put the id= inside the variation tag, and it must the be same. Using variation_name=normal seems to work okay. However, wesnoth crashed once after i swtiched variations, altered some unit variables, then swtiched back.
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20090728 01:50:15< CIA-62> ai0867 * r37281 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmliterator.py: Remove debug statement.
20090728 01:55:00< Soliton> Bob_The_Mighty: with inherit=no you must put all the relevant keys in because the don't get inherited.
20090728 01:55:16< Soliton> s/the/they/
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20090728 03:14:06< Bob_The_Mighty> A question about abilities: If a unit is adjacent to both a unit with leadership and a unit with a custom ability using the leadership tag, will they stack?
20090728 03:15:16< Bob_The_Mighty> I'm wondering about the 'cumulative=' key, does this restrict the stacking of the particular ability it is in, or of all abilities using that tag?
20090728 03:18:50< Soliton> try it. i'd guess it won't stack.
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20090728 03:24:13< AI0867> Bob_The_Mighty: I believe it depends on the id key, cumulative only affects tags of the same type that use the same id
20090728 03:24:39< Bob_The_Mighty> Ah, thanks, AI0867, that's good to know
20090728 03:25:15< Bob_The_Mighty> but i don't think that damage calculation will take into account more than 1 version of leadership
20090728 03:44:30< Bob_The_Mighty> I tried it with a custom +10% leadership ability, and a -20% terror ability. When a unit was supposed to be affected by both these modifiers, it only calculated the +10% leadership
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20090728 07:24:43< CIA-62> cornmander * r37282 /website/stats.wesnoth.org/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
20090728 07:24:43< CIA-62> Added a partial, modified copy of the wesnoth site CSS to fix a tag
20090728 07:24:43< CIA-62> name collision. Will add wesstats specific CSS to the file. Removed
20090728 07:24:43< CIA-62> tileserver stubs - I used a simpler implementation to serve gmaps tiles.
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20090728 08:34:50< Patterner> http://dymer.de/BfW_172_LeopardPPC.txt Crashing isn't good, right?
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20090728 08:51:14< euschn> hi
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20090728 09:46:42< YogiHH> hello
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20090728 09:56:58< Ivanovic> moin
20090728 09:57:13< Ivanovic> Soliton: i think en_GB is done completely by esr
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20090728 10:03:04< Turuk> good, we're abusing potential new artists now
20090728 10:06:42< Ivanovic> uhm, of course we are
20090728 10:06:43< Ivanovic> why?
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20090728 10:29:41< Soliton> Ivanovic: i've ran: sed -i 's/msgstr "[^^]*^/msgstr "/' po/wesnoth*/*.po  (cut off the translation hints.)  should i commit the result?
20090728 10:32:57< Soliton> Ivanovic: not too much changed: 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
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20090728 10:43:33< Ivanovic> which langs?
20090728 10:44:00< Ivanovic> i remember Chusslove using a script to detect those wrong strings (and several other string mistakes) once upon the time
20090728 10:44:10< Ivanovic> woulc be nice if he reran it...
20090728 10:44:11< Soliton>  po/wesnoth-lib/en_GB.po |    2 +-
20090728 10:44:11< Soliton>  po/wesnoth-lib/id.po    |   14 +++++++-------
20090728 10:44:11< Soliton>  po/wesnoth/en_GB.po     |    8 ++++----
20090728 10:44:52< Ivanovic> have you had a look at the strings to make sure that really nothing breaks (at elast in en_GB)
20090728 10:45:05< Ivanovic> IIRC indonesian is inactive anyway, so it will not hurt too much there
20090728 10:46:08< Ivanovic> the last report Chusslove created is fromt he middle of may
20090728 10:46:38< Chusslove> Mid june :)
20090728 10:46:41< Soliton> yeah, the changed strings look fine to me.
20090728 10:47:35< Ivanovic> Soliton: then commit please
20090728 10:47:53< Ivanovic> Chusslove: would be great if you could rerun your script afterwards
20090728 10:48:00< Soliton> though i wonder if this should be: msgstr "language code for localized resources^en_US" "en_GB,en_US" instead?
20090728 10:48:18< Chusslove> Solition: No, en_US is default.
20090728 10:48:20< Ivanovic> it should be en_GB
20090728 10:48:32< Ivanovic> Chusslove: in the translation it should be en_GB
20090728 10:48:33< Chusslove> Actually, there shouldn't be any explicit en_US resources.
20090728 10:48:54< Chusslove> Right.
20090728 10:49:34< Soliton> but both can share "resources" no?
20090728 10:49:43< Soliton> whatever that exactly means.
20090728 10:50:01< Chusslove> en_US resources are the default resources  (well, resources == images)
20090728 10:50:23< Soliton> right, so it's somewhat redundant, i guess.
20090728 10:51:11< Soliton> oh and there is still: po/wesnoth/el.po:msgstr[0] "οδηγία^επίθεση"  which sed apparently missed.
20090728 10:51:13< CIA-62> euschn * r37283 /trunk/src/ (gamestatus.cpp team.cpp): added gold_add key to team_info::write()
20090728 10:51:18< Soliton> that does look wrong, too?
20090728 10:51:36< Ivanovic> looks wrong to me
20090728 10:51:54< Ivanovic> greek is rather inactive atm, i'd say remove the translation and be done
20090728 10:52:12< Ivanovic> Soliton: in theory resources also include screenshots no idea where
20090728 10:52:20< Chusslove> Ivanovic: As for the errors report...
20090728 10:52:26< Ivanovic> Soliton: if no translated one is found the original ones is used
20090728 10:52:42< Chusslove> It's now really dead simple to run:
20090728 10:52:45< Ivanovic> so it is 100% fine to use en_GB for resources even if it never really gets used
20090728 10:52:49< Chusslove> svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-support/pology
20090728 10:53:14< Chusslove> pology/scripts/posieve check-tp-wesnoth .../wesnoth/branches/1.6/po
20090728 10:53:15< Ivanovic> Chusslove: since i will lose it in the log please send this howto to the i18n list
20090728 10:53:18< Chusslove> That's it.
20090728 10:53:18< Soliton> Ivanovic: yeah, ok.
20090728 10:53:59< Chusslove> Ivanovic: I was more thinking if it would be good to set it up to run automatically, say each week, and pipe the output somewhere visible.
20090728 10:54:28< Chusslove> Though not a problem me reporting on the list from time to time.
20090728 10:54:49< Chusslove> (At the moment, I'm in the mode to do it just after you report impending release.)
20090728 10:55:56< CIA-62> soliton * r37284 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20090728 10:55:56< CIA-62> ran: sed -i 's/\(msgstr.* "\)[^^]*^/\1/' po/wesnoth*/*.po
20090728 10:55:56< CIA-62> to cut off translation hints
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20090728 11:18:00< Ivanovic> Chusslove: the problem with this is that i only report "1.6.x is soon to be out"
20090728 11:18:09< Ivanovic> i don't report the 1.7.x releases on the list at all
20090728 11:18:35< Ivanovic> though i'll run a pot-update now just for the sake of doing it
20090728 11:18:36< Ivanovic> :)
20090728 11:27:08< Chusslove> Actually, I should also update checker to check for the Pango tags... 
20090728 11:29:44< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37285 /branches/1.6/ (68 files in 2 dirs): 
20090728 11:29:44< CIA-62> pot-update (no new/changed strings)
20090728 11:29:44< CIA-62> regenerated doc files
20090728 11:33:59< Chusslove> Ivanovic: So, when I run it, from now on it should be both for 1.6 and trunk?
20090728 11:34:55< Ivanovic> hehe, good question
20090728 11:35:08< Ivanovic> personally i would not mind too much if you started from now on with trunk onl
20090728 11:35:09< Ivanovic> y
20090728 11:35:30< Chusslove> Trunk *only*?? :)
20090728 11:36:12< Chusslove> Ah, you probably mean, who fixed 1.6 by now, fixed it, no point continuing to alarm on inactive teams...
20090728 11:41:52-!- Dragonking is now known as deekay
20090728 11:42:28< deekay> oh hi everyone, it's my new nick ;)
20090728 11:44:18< loonycyborg> Great! It's much less cliche now :P
20090728 11:44:54< deekay> Yes ;p
20090728 11:49:22< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37286 /trunk/data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/_main.cfg: names in about should not be translateable... ;)
20090728 11:49:44< Chusslove> Says you :)
20090728 11:50:50< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37287 /branches/1.6/po/ (wesnoth/de.po wesnoth-editor/de.po wesnoth-low/de.po): updated German translation
20090728 12:01:00< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37288 /trunk/po/ (20 files in 20 dirs): updated German translation
20090728 12:02:02< Ivanovic> Chusslove: exactly
20090728 12:02:17< Ivanovic> Chusslove: and trunk should be the new working target for many/most teams
20090728 12:03:22< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37289 /trunk/ (557 files in 23 dirs): 
20090728 12:03:22< CIA-62> pot-update
20090728 12:03:22< CIA-62> regenerated doc files
20090728 12:04:18< Chusslove> Ivanovic: But... I, for example, would (I do) continue to work on 1.6, as its releases are comming out periodically...
20090728 12:04:40< Ivanovic> but the "periodic" part is extremely reduced by now
20090728 12:04:49< Chusslove> Ok.
20090728 12:05:01< Ivanovic> the next one probably won't be out before middle of august
20090728 12:05:24< Ivanovic> and that one might be the last 1.6.x release since we will probably start the feature freeze for trunk close to that time
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20090728 12:17:53< stikonas> Ivanovic: there are 2 Fighter descriptions in httt/units/FIghter.cfg that can probably be unified
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20090728 12:30:50< Soliton> the whole unit definition should be macrofied so it doesn't go out of sync again.
20090728 12:32:20< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37290 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/units/Fighter.cfg: unify description tags
20090728 12:32:20< Soliton> same for the upgrades.
20090728 12:32:51< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37291 /trunk/po/CMakeLists.txt: add wesnoth-dm to cmake recipe (was working for most things, but not for make install...)
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20090728 12:35:38< Soliton> did anyone clean up the drake rename mess yet, btw?
20090728 12:36:04< Soliton> should definately be done before the next release.
20090728 12:40:29< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37292 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-dm/de.po wesnoth-low/de.po): updated German translation
20090728 12:42:26< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37293 /trunk/po/ (119 files in 23 dirs): just another pot-update to get the rest in...
20090728 12:42:38< Ivanovic> hmm, i am seeing a *really* strange problem
20090728 12:42:46< Ivanovic> in the campaign selection screen
20090728 12:42:56< Ivanovic> when set to german and clicking on "Delfadors Memoirs"
20090728 12:43:12< Ivanovic> the difficulty and number of scenarios line is not shown
20090728 12:43:19< Ivanovic> though it *is* translated
20090728 12:43:26< Ivanovic> and i see no problem in the translation
20090728 12:43:34< Ivanovic> for other langs this seems to work nicely, just as expected
20090728 12:43:49< Ivanovic> and for the other campaigns it does work just as expected
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20090728 12:45:37< Ivanovic> sorry, not delfadors memoirs has the problem but legend of wesmere
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20090728 12:52:19< Soliton> it shows here.
20090728 12:52:51< Soliton> though i just switched to german and the rest of the text is not translated.
20090728 12:53:10< Soliton> and i haven't processed the pot update.
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20090728 13:25:18< Ivanovic> please update to head and retest
20090728 13:25:26< Ivanovic> i have no idea why the translated string is not shown here
20090728 13:25:42< Ivanovic> and it seems to only happen in the german translation
20090728 13:26:03< Soliton> i tested with head data just not recompiled.
20090728 13:26:09< Ivanovic> okay
20090728 13:26:28< Ivanovic> recompiled means for you: no update .mo files?
20090728 13:26:31< Ivanovic> since those matter...
20090728 13:26:44< Ivanovic> (obviously i just update wesnoth-low/de.po)
20090728 13:27:15< Soliton> yeah, which is why i mentioned it. i'll test again in a bit.
20090728 13:30:13< CIA-62> euschn * r37294 /trunk/src/ (gamestatus.cpp savegame.cpp): savegames no longer have [player] tags in [snapshot]
20090728 13:36:21< Soliton> zookeeper: {MACRO ""} is a valid call for a macro with one argument, yes?
20090728 13:36:33< Ivanovic> hmm, lovely
20090728 13:36:46< Ivanovic> looks like the translation of the description somehow breaks things
20090728 13:37:07< Soliton> Konrads?
20090728 13:37:52< zookeeper> Soliton, uh, probably
20090728 13:38:09< zookeeper> depends on how the argument is used inside the macro def of course
20090728 13:38:22< zookeeper> if the argument is expected to be a tag, then that'll surely result in an error
20090728 13:38:34< zookeeper> so {MACRO ()} would probably be safer
20090728 13:39:20< Soliton> ok, i'm trying to unify the konrad unit definitions with their scepter variation.
20090728 13:39:39< Soliton> and it seems to me all the image paths just have -scepter added?
20090728 13:40:05< Soliton> so one could make that a macro argument to unify even more.
20090728 13:40:56< Soliton> also it seems there are some Lord frames used in the Commander definition which is maybe not intentional.
20090728 13:41:34< zookeeper> yeah, maybe
20090728 13:41:36 * Soliton wonders why one would write so much duplicated WML to begin with..
20090728 13:42:01< zookeeper> probably because it was easy and simple
20090728 13:42:29< Soliton> ..if you never want to change it again.
20090728 13:42:33< zookeeper> indeed
20090728 13:44:24< zookeeper> actually one could also just do the scepter variation by giving him an alternate version of each animation (and making a standing anim) filtering on whether he has the scepter or not
20090728 13:45:17< zookeeper> probably the only place where the scepterless one would still be shown would be the unit image in the right panel
20090728 13:50:24< Ivanovic> okay, i *think* i got an idea
20090728 13:50:27< Soliton> {DEFENSE_ANIM_RANGE "units/konrad-lord-scepter-sword-defend.png" "units/konrad-lord-scepter-attack-w1.png" {SOUND_LIST:HUMAN_HIT} melee}
20090728 13:50:35< Ivanovic> it might be that the problem is in the widget code (the stuff about the missing line)
20090728 13:50:41< Soliton> zookeeper: that is from Commander.cfg is that correct?
20090728 13:51:14< Ivanovic> that is: if i alter the campaign descrption so that it is shorter the info is shown, if it is longer, the difficulty stuff is not shown anymore
20090728 13:51:42< Ivanovic> (that is leaving out the last word in the german translation is already enough to have it shown, adding a word in the middle does not change anything)
20090728 13:51:56< Soliton> zookeeper: or should it be: {DEFENSE_ANIM_RANGE "units/konrad-commander-defend.png" "units/konrad-commander.png" {SOUND_LIST:HUMAN_HIT} melee}  (with the -scepter added in)?
20090728 13:56:22< Soliton> Ivanovic: yes, descriptions are just cut off if they don't fit currently. you can see it in english for liberty as well.
20090728 13:58:25< Soliton> hmm, though i have an UMC with a much longer description (with scroll bars). so it seems it is rather a bug when the description is supposed to fit on one page (without scroll bars).
20090728 14:04:34< YogiHH> Ivanovic: I can confirm that, i experienced clipped strings in the load-game dialog as well
20090728 14:05:29< YogiHH> There the filename is often too long to fit
20090728 14:06:17< YogiHH> I first thought it is related to mordante's new widgets, but iirc it happens with the old ones as well
20090728 14:23:52< CIA-62> ilor * r37295 /trunk/src/random.cpp: add more logging of RNG, change mismatch logging to warn from err
20090728 14:29:03< Soliton> ilor: the team message sending logic got messed up. people get messages from other teams and not their own etc.
20090728 14:30:02< ilor> that's.. unexpected
20090728 14:30:06< Soliton> ilor: maybe "if ((*i != exclude) && !except_pred(*i)) {" should really be "if ((*i != exclude) && except_pred(*i)) {"?
20090728 14:30:42< Soliton> because you bins is_on_team to it..
20090728 14:30:46< Soliton> bind*
20090728 14:32:48< ilor> Soliton: yeah it seems to be backwards
20090728 14:33:13< esr> Ivanovic: Who is our Mac packager?
20090728 14:33:28< Soliton> crimson_penguin
20090728 14:33:46< esr> Got a bug to assign to him.
20090728 14:34:18< Soliton> the pop-up dialog thing?
20090728 14:35:48< esr> Yes.
20090728 14:36:22< esr> Almost certainly a local configuration glitch, but I want our Mac packager to verify that.
20090728 14:36:50< Soliton> the config can't be fixed afaik. that guy is missing the font.
20090728 14:42:15< esr> Probably.  I almost marked it Invalid.
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20090728 14:56:31< CIA-62> ilor * r37296 /trunk/src/game.cpp: ensure the static-init recorder replay object gets a proper random seed
20090728 14:56:50< CIA-62> ilor * r37297 /trunk/src/ (mouse_events.cpp random.cpp): tweak new RNG behavior in SP
20090728 14:57:08< CIA-62> ilor * r37298 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: add a diagnostic message in replay random seed handling
20090728 14:57:25< CIA-62> ilor * r37299 /trunk/src/mouse_events.cpp: fix replays getting an incorrect seed resulting in random number not matching during replay playback in places where they should match already
20090728 14:57:25< ilor> euschn: r37296 and friends make the rng saner in SP
20090728 14:57:41< CIA-62> ilor * r37300 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: add a "lobby" log domain
20090728 14:57:58< CIA-62> ilor * r37301 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): mark pending messages in new lobby
20090728 14:58:17< CIA-62> ilor * r37302 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: change logging in lobby from engine to lobby domain
20090728 14:58:36< CIA-62> ilor * r37303 /trunk/src/server/ (player_network.cpp player_network.hpp): reverse the logic of the predicate variant of send_to_many, fixing team messages in the process
20090728 14:58:39< ilor> Soliton: ^
20090728 15:00:34< zookeeper> Soliton, looks ok, why?
20090728 15:00:44< zookeeper> oh. lord!=commander. no, that's wrong.
20090728 15:01:05< zookeeper> so your fix looks ok
20090728 15:01:32< Soliton> ilor: thanks.
20090728 15:06:33< euschn> ilor: works great! thanks for fixing
20090728 15:06:47< CIA-62> soliton * r37304 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/units/ (Commander.cfg Fighter.cfg Lord.cfg): macrofied the common parts of Konrad's unit types and its scepter variations
20090728 15:08:47< Soliton> zookeeper: please take a look. ^
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20090728 15:11:16< Soliton> ilor: btw, please tell me if you introduce incompatibilities with the current release since i recompile the 1.7 server occasionally as well.
20090728 15:11:52< ilor> Soliton: sure
20090728 15:12:31 * stikonas gets strange linking errors with cmake build
20090728 15:13:09< stikonas> does anybody knows what this means:
20090728 15:13:11< stikonas> Linking CXX executable ../wesnoth
20090728 15:13:13< stikonas> CMakeFiles/wesnoth.dir/gamestatus.cpp.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
20090728 15:13:34< stikonas> s/knows/know/
20090728 15:14:18< Soliton> what does file say to that file?
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20090728 15:20:07< zookeeper> Soliton, looks fine to me (not that i examined every single line)
20090728 15:21:15< stikonas> Soliton: data
20090728 15:21:26< stikonas> something went wrong
20090728 15:21:55< stikonas> maybe it is ccache that broken my build
20090728 15:23:22< Soliton> ilor: wesnothd segfaults all the time now.
20090728 15:23:42< ilor> Soliton: er..
20090728 15:25:10< Soliton> #0  wesnothd::room::add_player (this=0x0, player=2) at /usr/include/c++/4.3/bits/stl_vector.h:405
20090728 15:25:13< Soliton> #1  0x0808031f in wesnothd::room_manager::enter_lobby (this=0xbfb1d618, player=2) at src/server/room_manager.cpp:217
20090728 15:25:16< Soliton> #2  0x080b871a in server::process_login (this=0xbfb1d520, sock=2, data=@0x8167928) at src/server/server.cpp:1080
20090728 15:25:19< Soliton> #3  0x080b9c07 in server::process_data (this=0xbfb1d520, sock=2, data=@0x8167928) at src/server/server.cpp:841
20090728 15:25:22< Soliton> #4  0x080babf9 in server::run (this=0xbfb1d520) at src/server/server.cpp:699
20090728 15:25:25< Soliton> #5  0x080bcfc0 in main (argc=7, argv=0xbfb1d904) at src/server/server.cpp:2439
20090728 15:26:35< Soliton> so much to our 1.7 online player base. :->
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20090728 15:28:18< ilor> Soliton: I'm guessing "works for me" won't be enough :P
20090728 15:29:49< ilor> Soliton: aw. dumb bug
20090728 15:32:43< CIA-62> ilor * r37305 /trunk/src/server/room_manager.cpp: Fix segfault when no stored rooms file is set or does not exists
20090728 15:33:18< ilor> Soliton: ^
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20090728 15:39:21< Soliton> ilor: ok, seems to work now.
20090728 15:39:36< Soliton> someone here to help test team messages?
20090728 15:42:35< deekay> Soliton: What is needed?
20090728 15:45:03< Soliton> basic competency at using wesnoth in multiplayer and being a team player!
20090728 15:48:15 * Soliton starts 3 clients.
20090728 15:50:20< Soliton> ok, seems to work right now.
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20090728 15:52:24< Vlack> hello
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20090728 15:56:05< deekay> Soliton: I meant rather something like 'latest trunk' or something ;) But good to know it works anyway
20090728 15:57:01< Soliton> team messages are not that new a feature. ;-)
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20090728 15:58:51< stikonas> Soliton: thanks for help
20090728 15:59:04< stikonas> there was some filesystem coruption i my .ccache folder
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20090728 15:59:13< Soliton> ah, ok.
20090728 15:59:14< stikonas> that resulted in linkink errors
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20090728 15:59:25< stikonas> i probably have to to fsck
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20090728 16:11:39< CIA-62> ivanovic * r37306 /trunk/po/wesnoth/de.po: updated German translation
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20090728 16:26:09< CIA-62> soliton * r37307 /trunk/ (RELEASE_NOTES data/tools/wmllint): removed the slasher renaming since it's not safe
20090728 16:32:15< crimson_penguin> ahh, what's going on here? why does 1.6.4 work? Pango text should be broken as far as I can tell
20090728 16:35:21< crimson_penguin> oh I see, it's falling back to "Sans", which uses Arial
20090728 16:57:29< ilor> Soliton: could you remind me how wesbot currently works (and how I should go round to setting up a local one for testing)?
20090728 16:57:38< ilor> s/wesbot/lobby bot
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20090728 17:00:26< Soliton> ilor: just irssi with a bunch of aliases to exec log tail commands and trigger.pl for the server lobby messages.
20090728 17:00:51< Soliton> ilor: i can tell you how to set that up of course but what exactly do you want to test?
20090728 17:01:25< ilor> Soliton: well I hope to set up moderation via the lobby bot this week
20090728 17:02:12< ilor> plus I need to test how the lobby bot fares with regards to the room system, and I'd prefer doing that locally esp. given as I've had issues with my ISP reliability anyway
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20090728 17:04:14< Soliton> hmm.
20090728 17:04:55< Soliton> well, exposing more moderation commands is easy.
20090728 17:05:34< ilor> is there anything at the moment?
20090728 17:06:02< Soliton> just the lobbymsg command.
20090728 17:06:27< Soliton> it's just a matter of making up a reasonably syntax, i guess.
20090728 17:06:59< CIA-62> euschn * r37308 /trunk/src/ (gamestatus.cpp team.cpp): the key 'persistent' can now be used in [side] tags to explicitly set persistence of teams. save_id/id is still required to identify the side in later scenarios. addresses bug #13016
20090728 17:07:15< Soliton> of course the whole setup is a bit hacky.. but if we want to stay with that for now i can easily expose more/all server commands in a couple of minutes.
20090728 17:07:50< ilor> Soliton: could you send me the lobby irssi scripts at kailoran@gmail.com ?
20090728 17:08:32< ilor> Soliton: sigh, need to leave for a few hours, will you be around in say 3-4hrs?
20090728 17:08:50< Soliton> ilor: sure and i think so.
20090728 17:14:02< CIA-62> soliton * r37309 /trunk/utils/mp-server/tail_log_irc: added a script to tail server log files
20090728 17:14:06< Soliton> ^ the script to tail the log files.
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20090728 17:28:21< CIA-62> soliton * r37310 /trunk/utils/mp-server/ (4 files): added some logfilter scripts needed by tail_log_irc
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20090728 17:45:43< Soliton> Ivanovic, Rhonda: there is something messed up about the dbs and mysqlhotcopy fails. i'm not particularly interested in looking into that...
20090728 17:46:21< Ivanovic> Rhonda: can you look into this?
20090728 17:48:00< Rhonda>           abcd
20090728 17:48:33< Soliton> (that means yes, i think.)
20090728 17:48:53< Rhonda> That means my irssi didn't react to any keys pressed somehow. Did hat to detach and reattach.
20090728 17:49:05< Rhonda> I didn't even see the original message, just the hilight. :)
20090728 17:49:34< Rhonda> And .. I'm not totally fond of that hotcopy, who originally did set that up?
20090728 17:53:39 * Rhonda stops the server and does myisamchk stuff.
20090728 17:56:08< Rhonda> Alright, I am fed up with that homebaken kernel on the server. This is a bit ridiculous ...
20090728 17:56:11< Rhonda> Linux >= 2.6.20 with I/O accounting support: Not found
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20090728 18:01:19< Rhonda> myisamchk: Unknown error 126  # doesn't sound too good
20090728 18:01:58< Bob_The_Mighty> could someone show me a good example of how to define and trigger a custom animation?
20090728 18:02:41< Bob_The_Mighty> I would like the animation to slide into an adjacent hex, like a melee attack, but to show the standing image instead
20090728 18:04:29< Bob_The_Mighty> Originally I tried [hide_unit] then used [move_unit_fake] and [unhide_unit] but it looks dodgy, so a proper animation would be best, if possible
20090728 18:08:08< zookeeper> well, first i'd try just using [animate_unit] to trigger the movement animation for the unit
20090728 18:09:14< Bob_The_Mighty> if a unit does not have a movement animation specified, will it use the standing image by default?
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20090728 18:10:00< zookeeper> yes
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20090728 18:16:44< Bob_The_Mighty> lol, well i tried that, and it makes the unit slide into the hex about ten times, really damn fast
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20090728 18:25:02< Sapient> I noticed that when I press and release the shift key
20090728 18:26:02< Sapient> instead of speeding up/slowing down the animation, it goes backwards
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20090728 18:30:17< Soliton> do you mean it has the opposite effect or the animation really runs backwards?
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20090728 18:32:50< Sapient> it's like it skips backwards in time
20090728 18:33:10< Sapient> not plays backwards
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20090728 19:01:25< Rhonda> bleah, sorry, forgot the window and to restart mysqld after it finished its repair.  %-/
20090728 19:02:20< Rhonda> Soliton, Ivanovic: The issue actually started yesterday with running out of diskspace.
20090728 19:02:37< Rhonda> Which corrupted the mysql tables. :/
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20090728 19:05:04< Bob_The_Mighty> Sapient: it just showed the unit image sliding into the next hex over and over
20090728 19:05:06< Bob_The_Mighty> aww
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20090728 19:12:14< Soliton> Rhonda: yeah, there was a weird issue with /tmp being full i hopefully fixed that though.
20090728 19:13:57< Soliton> i've setup /tmp as noexec etc a while ago and after the latest reboot it was reported as full but i couldn't figure out where the space was supposedly used.
20090728 19:16:00< Soliton> Rhonda: do you know if mysql needs big amounts of space in /tmp sometimes? it's 2GB atm and was 1GB before which i thought would be plenty.
20090728 19:18:52< Rhonda> Did you check for still open files?
20090728 19:19:32< Soliton> yes.
20090728 19:19:39< Soliton> closed everything to no avail.
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20090728 19:20:30< Rhonda> lsof -nP | grep '(path inode=' | awk '{print $2}' | sort -u |  xargs -r ps uxargs -r ps u
20090728 19:20:59< Rhonda> wtf, why does it now ask me for my login passwd?
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20090728 19:31:40< Rhonda> Soliton: Can you check why I can't log in and why it asks for a password?
20090728 19:33:47< Soliton> checking...
20090728 19:35:14< Soliton> i don't see any new connections from you.
20090728 19:37:37< Soliton> Rhonda: check if you're really connecting right? odd that it asks you for a password though...
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20090728 19:39:47< Rhonda> Damnit, somehow my ssh-agent lost my key?
20090728 19:40:19< Soliton> fire him!
20090728 19:40:32< Rhonda> Will do so.
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20090728 20:20:20< YogiHH> mordante, you there?
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20090728 20:29:03< Sirp> hi grzywacz 
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20090728 20:33:36< stikonas> YogiHH: mordante is on a vacation
20090728 20:35:18< YogiHH> stikonas: oh, i see. Do you know how long he will be away?
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20090728 20:36:26< grzywacz> hi Sirp, what's up?
20090728 20:37:28< ilor> YogiHH: he should be back in a week, think Monday
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20090728 20:40:20< Sirp> grzywacz: ehh nothing much...with you? how's married life?
20090728 20:41:50< grzywacz> Sirp, pretty much the same as before. ;) I moved to a new flat this weekend and that's probably the biggest change as of late...
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20090728 21:37:39< zookeeper> i'm planning on deleting a couple of unit frames of a campaign unit as i'm putting in new sprites and animations for it. if it was a core unit then i shouldn't delete existing images because of backwards compatibility, but should i worry about that when it's campaign-specific stuff?
20090728 21:37:57< zookeeper> (talking about 1.6, of course no problem in trunk)
20090728 21:38:41< Soliton> is it a bug fix? just don't bother with 1.6?
20090728 21:39:40< zookeeper> no, giving the incredibly crappy TRoW vampire lady new graphics
20090728 21:39:49< zookeeper> so i want to port to 1.6 in any case
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20090728 21:43:10< Soliton> so chains.. how's the interface coming along? ;-)
20090728 21:44:03< chains> Have you given up wanting it in python?
20090728 21:44:27< Soliton> i never did.
20090728 21:44:38< chains> The python project seemed pretty far along, and more detailed than I wanted to get into already?
20090728 21:44:45< Soliton> i suppose tsr talked about using python on the forum?
20090728 21:45:02< Soliton> it was just in the concept phase.
20090728 21:45:13< chains> someone wrote a bunch of code that did most of it in python I read through the code several times. 
20090728 21:45:15< Soliton> i've not seen much more.
20090728 21:45:21< chains> bummer. 
20090728 21:46:31< Soliton> well, the code post was some db setup not much more was it? i can#t really remember.
20090728 21:46:35< Soliton> posted*
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20090728 21:59:25< chains> no
20090728 21:59:28< chains> it was a replay parser
20090728 22:00:04< chains> that pulled relevant data from the replay files and inserted them into a database
20090728 22:00:25< chains> The python code to pull out the data wasn't quite finished as I recall. 
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20090728 22:04:10< boucman> hey all
20090728 22:04:23< Crab_> hi boucman
20090728 22:05:20< Sirp> hi boucman 
20090728 22:05:45< Sirp> boucman: I think it'd be very cool if we could re-write Wesnoth's networking layer to use boost::asio
20090728 22:06:11< boucman> Sirp: couldn't agree more :)
20090728 22:06:44< Sirp> boucman: I just implemented networking for Frogatto using boost::asio, and it struck me how well it matches Wesnoth's model
20090728 22:07:06< Sirp> that is, that boost::asio uses multiple threads "under the covers" but lets the program using it just use one thread for everything
20090728 22:07:21< Sirp> which makes it very easy to use, yet get the benefits of multi-threading
20090728 22:07:31< boucman> sounds great
20090728 22:07:42< boucman> would porting to wesnoth be doable in 1.7 timefram e?
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20090728 22:17:52< Sirp> boucman: well, the Frogatto implementation is totally different -- we'd just write it afresh in Wesnoth
20090728 22:18:03< Sirp> boucman: and I think if someone got into it it could be coded in a weekend or two
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20090728 22:18:53< boucman> ok
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20090728 22:21:46< Sirp> boucman: pretty much the way boost::asio works is you call a function saying "hey I want to receive data on this socket, call this function I'm giving you when you have the data."
20090728 22:22:23< Sirp> or likewise, "hey I want to send data on this socket, call this function I'm giving you when you complete or if there's an error."
20090728 22:22:30< boucman> Sirp: the only difference is that we currently push WML compression/decompression to the helper thread, 
20090728 22:22:31< Sirp> and thanks to boost::bind() the whole function thing is very very easy
20090728 22:23:30< Sirp> boucman: yes, but I don't think that is necessary or even a good thing.
20090728 22:23:46< Sirp> the only reason you want to push compression/decompression to a helper thread is to exploit more cores on your machine
20090728 22:23:50< boucman> well, the compression do give some lag iirc
20090728 22:24:04< boucman> otoh having a good network layer is probably worth the wait
20090728 22:24:05< Sirp> our server only has two cores. Trying to get the server to use both of them -- not sure that is a good idea.
20090728 22:24:16< Sirp> boucman: and if we wanted to we could find a way around that.
20090728 22:24:26< Sirp> like have another thread responsible for compression/decompression
20090728 22:24:32< boucman> yes, just pointing out that we would loose the feature
20090728 22:25:05< boucman> (not critical for game, but could make a big diff for the servers, esp the campaign server where we compress big chunk and then block the working thread for a very long time
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20090728 23:41:55< boucman> night all
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